Wednesday, May 23, 2007 opens with Col. John Alexander, don't know who the others are besides me and Uri.

Right - that's why I suspect those photos are faked with Photoshop. It's probably a very clever spoof, but I can't say for sure. I am sitting on the fence leaning toward a really good spoof. Watch out there I go - uh oh! ;-)

On May 23, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Kim Burrafato wrote:

But in the case of the alleged Klingon probe photos, the object appears to be in the range of 10-20 feet in diameter maximum. Assume the things are real electrogravostatic alien probes, how are they generating those kinds of energies in a platform of that particularly delicate and almost hypnotically asymmetric configuration? There's basically a flying truncated hollow cylinder with wing and antenna protrusions and what could be a small power plant attached to the cylinder and maybe projecting above it, like some outlandish late Victorian lamp. Weird .... I get a funny feeling when I look at the stuff under the protrusions -- the alien glyphs. If you look at the first pics from Chad with the blowup of the glyphs and details of the construction, you can see a pretty much-dead on match with what the guy took in Capitola.

Jack: So "Chad" got into his car and is driving around? I'm playing Devil's Advocate.

Kim: The little round nodules are the same place and the writing appears to be, too. Now of course, there is the possibility that the same person is responsible for all these "different" pics, but assuming that's not the case, it's pretty interesting -- for a change! Good memehacking, at the very least. But I have this strange feeling that this could be for real.

Jack: Yeah, IMHO this Bulgarian guy is good. USG Intelligence, DIA, SAIC, Los Alamos ... should get him over here ASAP. He is definitely a heavyweight - the real McCoy. Good work Art. The Bulgarian gets my vote. I'm impressed.

On May 23, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

OK he give some interesting numbers at end. He seems to say you need 10^9 volts/cm to reshape the geodesics made by Earth at its surface for flight. Note I have only skimmed this so far very quickly. He also gives 380 Tesla magnetic field and current densities for solenoids. So that's 100 volts per nanometer. These numbers seem more promising than Hal Puthoff's PV numbers? Clearly, this guy's work needs to be looked into carefully by a lot of people. He is in Bulgaria? This is the most promising development I have seen that is along the lines of what ... has been promoting. Problem with Gordon is that he does not stick to pure descriptions of the photographic/video evidence but tries to explain it with not-even-wrong amateurish techno-babble so all physicists immediately turn off. This Bulgarian has the correct mainstream GR physics that seems relevant to extraordinary claims of huge voltages in capacitors making disks fly. Maybe something here ...

On May 23, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

On May 23, 2007, at 5:23 PM, art wagner wrote:
I think this work is important, if valid:

Thanks looks interesting. Will look more carefully.

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