Thanks Gennady. You are like Schwinger I am like Feynman. I mean it's too hard for me to read through that archaic Schouten notation you use. The Cartan notation is like Feynman diagrams, one can see the point almost instantly without spending a lot of time with complicated notation.

Also your model

1. Does not explicitly have local vacuum order parameters out of which all the classical math emerges.

2. Although torsion fields can change the rest masses of elementary particles we really do not want to do that because changing e/m will explode the ship and possibly destroy not only the planet, but even the whole universe (e.g. Martin Rees, Ch 11 "Our Final Hour").

3. The key idea is to change the timelike geodesic glide path of the ship of mass M FROM the ship without changing M at all! M should cancel out of the problem. If not, it is a non-geodesic drive with g-force subject to the WMD instability above (see also Sir Martin Rees "Just Six Numbers").

I also tried to explain this to James Woodward, Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis, but they do not seem able to understand the danger of what they are trying to do. Fortunately, I don't think their physics is correct so we are not in any danger. However, your physics is essentially correct, but simply stops and does not go to "subspace" or the "substratum" out of which your equations EMERGE from:

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2'd'(Goldstone Phase)

= compensating gauge potential from T4 -> Diff(4) that also needs the Goldstone phase

i.e. BOTH local gauging of a space-time symmetry T4 and spontaneous breakdown of the internal symmetry SU(2) hypercharge is the mechanism for inflation and the low entropy of the early universe.

T = (d + W/\ + S/\)(1 + B + S) = dS + W/\S + S/\(1 + B + S) = (hG/c^3)d'd'(Goldstone Phase)

T = torsion field 2-form

S = torsion potential 1-form from locally gauging O(1,3) to get the extra 6 scalar fields (dimensions of "oriented point")

T =/= 0 when S =/= 0

On Sep 27, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Gennady Shipov wrote:

On Sep 27, 2005, at 11.39 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

Jack Sarfatti

> Is the discovery of dark energy the key to warp drive?

>

> Dark energy is positive zero point energy density with negative

> pressure. Einstein showed that the pressure is 3 times as powerful as

> the energy density in bending space-time. Therefore, dark energy anti-

> gravitates repelling everything and expanding space beyond its normal

> Hubble expansion. This is the accelerating universe in which ~ 73% of

> the large-scale stuff is this dark energy with negative pressure. In

> addition the Russians (Gennady Shipov in Moscow) are extending

> Einstein's theory to include torsion fields as well as curvature

> fields. In that case we can have quintessent fields in which the zero

> point energy density is not simply a cosmological constant, but is a

> variable local scalar field.

Gennady Shipov

Yes Jack!

In the attachment I have presented the reasons about connection of torsion with a "dark matter".

Gennady.

Jack Sarfatti

We can now build a Weightless Warp Drive

> (WWD) like Alcubierre's by a kind of Josephson wave interference

> effect. We live in a Higgs Ocean vacuum field. The Higgs Ocean has

> vacuum waves. We use a local high Tc coherent wave like in the thin

> film anyon condensates that locks into the local phase of the vacuum

> wave. This is similar to a heterodyne radio receiver. By modulating

> the local vacuum wave's phase we can make both positive and negative

> zero point quantum pressures in different parts of the star ship's

> fuselage and, therefore, shape the weightless free float geodesic

> glide path of the ship. This does not take a lot of power. It's like

> Tao Chi. For more details see the new book Super Cosmos by Jack

> Sarfatti (2005) ISBN:1-4184-7663-3.

>

> On Sep 26, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

>

> > The classical far-field transverse EM field stress-energy tensor is

> > traceless. Therefore, for a random SED EM field

> >

> > (Energy Density) + 3(Pressure) = 0

> >

> > w = +1/3

> >

> > QED

> >

> > This is indeed what Hal Puthoff assumed in his charge cluster paper.

> >

> > It is clearly wrong as shown below.

> >

> > The above stress-tensor is not a complete description. One must add

> >

> > (c^4/8piG)/\zpfguv(x)

> >

> > If there is no torsion /\zpf = constant.

> >

> > In QED /\zpf is infinite.

> >

> > It's a fudge to subtract. You can't subtract it in GR! If you put

> > in a quantum gravity cutoff then

> >

> > /\zpf = 1/Lp^2 = (c^3/hG) = 10^+66 cm^-2

> >

> > This is the cosmological constant problem.

> >

> > Note that traceguv = -2 for +--- signature

> >

> > This corresponds to w = -1

> >

> > i.e. energy density - 3(pressure) = -2(energy density)

> >

> > Therefore, you cannot consistently use the classical

> >

> > Tuv(EM) = -FuwF^wv - guvL

> >

> > in curved spacetime to get the effect of the virtual photons.

> >

> > We need to distinguish the zero point virtual photons that are on-

> > mass-shell in the purely QED Casimir force calculations from the

> > coherent states of off-mass-shell virtual photons that make up near

> > EM fields.

> >

> > PS Note that the BCS vacuum coherent state |0'> is

> >

> > |0'> = Product over modes k (uk + vkbk*)|0>

> >

> > where bk* creates a bound virtual electron-positron pair +k & - k

> > (may not be a singlet). Since this is neutral there is no problem

> > of charge conservation. We can extend this idea to virtual quark-

> > antiquark pairs.

> >

> > Note that zero point quantum gravity terms c^2/\zpfr^2 are like

> > "bag potentials" that confine quarks. With torsion fields /\zpf is

> > a local variable scalar Higgs field.

> >

> > On Sep 26, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

> >

> >

> >> 1. Lorentz invariance and the equivalence principle imply

> >>

> >> w = -1

> >>

> >> for all zero point fluctuations not only for virtual photons.

> >>

> >> 2. Unlike QED you cannot simply stick in a plate(s) as in Casimir

> >> force and forget the absolute background of ZPE. This is precisely

> >> the "cosmological constant problem."

> >>

> >> i.e. zero point energy gravitates (and anti-gravitates depending)

> >> absolutely.

> >>

> >> The QED Casimir force calculation for virtual photons (excluding

> >> even vacuum polarization, which makes no essential difference

> >> here) is irrelevant to the "charge cluster", or, more

> >> fundamentally, the stability of a single electron as an extended

> >> micro-geon. More precisely the Casimir energy is merely one term

> >> of several in the effective potential for the micro-geon including

> >> gravity.

> >>

> >> i.e.

> >>

> >> V = @hc/mr + Q^2/mr + J^2/mr^2 + c^2/\zpfr^2

> >>

> >> The "gravity term" in this Newtonian approx is c^2/\zpfr^2 for a

> >> uniform core of positive ZPE of negative pressure. The Casmir term

> >> is @hc/mr that simply renormalizes the Coulomb barrier Q^2/mr.

> >> Everything Hal Puthoff talks about simply determines the pure

> >> number @ from QED.

> >>

> >> dV/dr =0

> >>

> >> d^2V/dr^2 > 0

> >>

> >> 3. The single electron Bohm hidden variable is not a point

> >> particle. Renormalization theory needs to be trashed as Feynman

> >> told me in his Cal Tech office in 1968. The electron (& quarks) is

> >> an extended shell of charge held in balance by its inner core of

> >> zero point dark energy where the vacuum coherence ODLRO field

> >> drops to zero exactly like in the core of a superfluid vortex

> >> except here we have a point defect rather than a string defect.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

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