Wednesday, May 19, 2004

re: http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/12778_weapons.html

Message: 19
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:59:06 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: New data on dark energy Chandra: Thumbs up for w = -1.

Excellent news. They are saying w = -1 as I have said. This and CDMSII
refuting Italian false positives is thumbs up for my theory in "Super
Cosmos" thumbs down for phantom energy w < -1 and thumbs down for
quintessence -1 < w < -1/3. Also thumbs down for dark matter as
supersymmetry partners.

Let's see if the experiments continue to confirm this in next few years.

This is all explained in my book Super Cosmos soon out as well as in my
two previous books Destiny Matrix and Space-Time and Beyond II from
late 2002.


Memorandum for the Record

Cargo cult pseudo-physics or important breakthroughs?

Paul Murad, allegedly from DIA who runs STAIF 'out of the box' meetings sponsored by AIP, worked with Dyatlov.
Murad allegedly wrote about flying saucers:

The mis-spellings are in the original.


From:

"Because of attitudes, mentioning UFOs per se will detract from the credibility of the paper. There is nothing wrong with discussing a hypothetical ship that was saucer shape.... This looks quite interesting. From my limited knowledge about UFO wreakage, the vehicles are made with a top half of pure magnesium and bottom half with aluminum. Magesium cannot sustain a magenetic field but is a great conductor. The sphere constellation uses nickel for magnetic properties. Basically, you have a rotating magnetic field trapped inside of an electric field."

Note Uri Geller warns of "11-11" note "11" in Murad's e-mail address and use of "UFO" - curious coincidence. Murad admits "knowledge about UFO wreakage" (sic)



On May 19, 2004, at 6:52 AM, Doc Savage wrote:


On May 19, 2004, at 3:09 AM, SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Man-Made Flying Saucers?
From: Jack Sarfatti
2. Re: Reply to Jack Sarfatti's Comments in PRAVDA
From: Jack Sarfatti
3. Re: And what about Dyatlov???
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
4. Re: And what about Dyatlov???
From: "Berkant"
5. Searl Replication in the USA???
From: "Berkant"
6. Re: Searl Replication in the USA???
From: "Berkant"
7. PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons
From: Jack Sarfatti
8. Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons
From: "Berkant"
9. P. Murad and V. I Dyatlov
From: "Berkant"
10. Classical electromagnetic devices to generate macroscopic Kerr-Newman singularit
From: "Berkant"
11. Re: Classical electromagnetic devices to generate macroscopic Kerr-Newman singularit
From: "Berkant"
12. Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
13. Father of Jet Engine Von Ohain - Expert in Electrofluidsystems
From: "Berkant"
14. Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
15. Heim
From: Jack Sarfatti
16. Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons
From: Jack Sarfatti
17. Richard Feynman on Cargo Cult Science Re: Rabbi Sarfatti introduces "Torsion Field Invocation"
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
18. Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
19. Re: New data on dark energy Chandra: Thumbs up for w = -1.
From: Jack Sarfatti


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:50:52 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: Man-Made Flying Saucers?


On May 17, 2004, at 9:47 PM, Tim Ventura wrote:

Interesting -- it also contains WW2 era photos with ground crews:
http://www.buforadio.com/ufofilespennsylvania/id22.html

I am skeptical. Nick is in a better position to judge.
No known propulsion system back in 20's & 30's not to mention dubious
aerodynamics.


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:00:19 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: Reply to Jack Sarfatti's Comments in PRAVDA

Gary let me know if they publish this.

On May 17, 2004, at 9:24 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:

Dear Inna Novikova,

Thank you for having the foresight to run my story and Dr. Sarfatti's
comments in PRAVDA.

I offer a few additional remarks, in response to Sarfatti's comments:

Sarfatti writes:

As far as I know I am the only physicist so far to claim: " that the
invisible gravitating dark matter could be the other side of the
invisible
dark energy coin..."

Sarfatti's ideas are unique, however at least one other physicist,
Gonzalez-Diaz in Madrid has suggested a related idea based on a
sub-quantum
potential: "dark matter and dark energy are both unitarily described
by just
the scalar field..."

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0311244

Yes, but I had not read that by Diaz when I made that remark. Also Diaz does not derive the Einstein GR gravity field equations from the phase of the scalar field the way I claim to do. Diaz assumes GR as a given, so does Modanese. Further he does not make the explicit prediction that dark matter detectors should give null results in principle like Michelson-Morley experiments for ether drift.

Regarding "Some French, Serbian and Ukrainian physicists have been working on new theories of extended electrons and solitons, so perhaps a sub-quantum bomb is not entirely out of the question."

Sarfatti writes:

"Bekkum fails to acknowledge J.P. Vigier as the leader of this
project."

Although I neglected to mention Vigier, Jack also fails to mention the
influence of George Lochak and the The Foundation Louis de Broglie.

I don't know if Lochak and Vigier collaborated on this. I do not see
any work by Lochak on "tight atomic states" as a mechanism for "cold
fusion" energy production.

As an example, here is a Russian paper:

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http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-26j/aflb26jp381.pdf

Annales de la Fondation Louis de Broglie, Volume 26 n± special, 2001
381

Soliton Model of Extended Quantum Particles

Yu.P. Rybakova and Bijan Sahab
Department of Theoretical Physics, Peoples' Friendship University of
Russia
Laboratory of Information Technologies,
Joint Institute for Nuclear Research

ABSTRACT. Some first principles that, we believe, could serve as
foundation for quantum theory of extended particles are formulated.
It is also shown that in the point-like particles limit the
non-relativistic
quantum mechanics can be restored. Bohm problem of nonlinear resonance
has been considered and its possible solution has been given.
Within the frame-work of the Einstein-de Broglie soliton model a
hydrogen
atom has been simulated.

I never read this paper.

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As for the "Podkletnov effect" and the theory of Ning Li:

American Military Investigated Anti-gravity Weapons

Government Budget Document evidence that the United States Department
of
Defense actively pursued reports of anti-gravity effects

The United States Government Official Website, http://www.firstgov.gov/
allows a rapid search of official government documents available over
the
internet.

A quick search for Dr. Ning Li, the physicist that predicted an
anti-gravity
effect from her theory, and the key word "contract" leads to an
official US
Government Department of Defense budget document:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/Docs/FY01RPT.doc

The document describes contract number DAAH01-01-9-R001, titled
"Gravito-Electro Magnetic Superconductivity Experiment", awarded by
the US
Army Aviation and Missile Command, to Dr. Ning Li's company AC
Gravity, LLD

New means of propulsion, ways of controlling missiles and gun launched
munitions, lowering of the effective weight of tanks and heavy
vehicles,
deflecting incoming missiles, including ICBM's, are listed as among the
military applications for this technology.

This document supports Jane's Defence Weekly contributor Nick Cook's
exposure of a similar project at the American aerospace contractor
Boeing.
Previously Nick Cook showed the BBC and Jane's documents as proof that
Boeings' Phantom Works facility were investigating the Russian
scientist
Evgeny Podkletnov's reports of repulsive antigravity from spinning
superconducting disks.

Thank you again.

Sincerely,

Gary S. Bekkum
Starstream Research
USA




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:18:13 +0400 (MSD)
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
Subject: Re: And what about Dyatlov???

Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:43:44 -0000 From: "Berkant"
Subject: And what about Dyatlov???

What is the opinion of the Russian Academy
of Science regarding the
person and work of Prof. V. L. Dyatlov??

RAS Academicians Edward Kruglyakov and Valery
Rubakov published their review on
books by V.L.Dyatlov, A.N.Dmitriev, and
V.I.Merkulov in Physics-Uspekhi
1999, v. 169, #5.
The review is highly negative.
http://ufn.ru/abstracts/con1999.html
(subscription to Physics-Uspekhi required)

Please summarize content of critical review as none of us subscribe to Uspekhi.


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:42:38 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: And what about Dyatlov???

Paul Murad claims to have worked with Dyatlov on exotic propulsion - a euphemism for flying saucers obviously.


Alexander, thanks for the info..

http://www.ufn.ru:/Index99.html#99_1

Please can you provide me with a PDF copy of the following articles:

On "What is happening to us?" by E.P. Kruglyakov (V.L. Ginzburg)
Download .pdf file (ufn993p.pdf, 65Kb)

and

On the "Problems of non-uniform physical vacuum" book series (Ê.P.
Kruglyakov, V.A. Rubakov)
Download .pdf file (ufn995g.pdf, 93Kb)

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Sergej Godin told us at the greenglow list that he is applying the
work of Dyatlov.. he didn't want to tell us more.. but he also added
that in his view those triangled crafts were using generators
similar to Searl generators on the three corners of the craft..
he even added that he observed such a craft over Shukovsky test area
in Moscow.. of course, we were not able to check his claims.. and I
assume Marc Millis as list member of greenglow was curious and
accepted his abstract... at the time I was co-moderator at
greenglow..

maybe you know about those dubious experiments claiming to have
replicated the so-called Searl-effect..

http://users.erols.com/iri/JPCReport.htm

An Experimental Investigation of the Physical Effects in a Dynamic
Magnetic System V. Roschin, Russian Academy of Science, Moscow,
Russia; S. Godin, Inst. for High Temperatures, Russian Academy of
Science, Moscow, Russia


Sergey was never able to show us photos of the build-up..
only some photos of small scale rotors of magnets...
we thought he would show them at the NASA conference...

please note that Evgeny Podkletnov also claims to have worked for
the Institute for High Temperatures of the RAS...

Nick Cook says Podkletnov's father had Victor Schauberger's papers on the Nazi "Bell" machine that seems to have influenced Podkletnov's current anti-gravity work.


Are Roschin and Godin really RAS Academicians???

if yes, please can you provide me with the contact addresses..
I assume you are an RAS Academician...

Thank you in advance.

Berkant

--- In SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander
Konkretny" wrote:
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:43:44 -0000 From: "Berkant"

Subject: And what about Dyatlov???

What is the opinion of the Russian Academy
of Science regarding the
person and work of Prof. V. L. Dyatlov??

RAS Academicians Edward Kruglyakov and Valery
Rubakov published their review on
books by V.L.Dyatlov, A.N.Dmitriev, and
V.I.Merkulov in Physics-Uspekhi
1999, v. 169, #5.
The review is highly negative.
http://ufn.ru/abstracts/con1999.html
(subscription to Physics-Uspekhi required)



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:21:31 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Searl Replication in the USA???


Several years ago I was also in touch with Searl... is he alive???

in the past he was regularly invited to the meetings of the German
Association of Vacuum Field Energy... this was the time when Dr.
Hans A. Nieper was head of this German group.. Uri Geller may
remember him.. Nieper made several photos with him...

in Nieper's final years he was in touch with Bernie Haisch.. he was
proud telling us about his Lockheed contacts.. this was the time
when this German group began to promote the work of Hal Puthoff..

then I left this group and entered MUFON-CES...

anyway, Tim Ventura has recently uploaded some papers dealing with the Searl generator...

http://www.americanantigravity.com/paul-brown-seg.shtml


In this letter, dated December 5th, 1986, Paul Brown details the
results of his amazing SEG replication.

Brown claims that the SEG generated enough power to actually melt
the Neodymium Magnets, and estimated that the output was measured
in 'kilowatts or megawatts'.


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:47:26 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: Searl Replication in the USA???


PS: Now I am no ufo study group...

Just a brave scientist working on bionics at TU Berlin:-)



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:14:22 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons

Memorandum for the Record

Military Intelligence information/disinformation/misinformation I am
receiving in the wake of the article in PRAVDA
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/12778_weapons.html

On May 18, 2004, at 6:50 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On May 17, 2004, at 9:47 PM, Tim Ventura wrote:

Interesting -- it also contains WW2 era photos with ground crews:
http://www.buforadio.com/ufofilespennsylvania/id22.html

I am skeptical. Nick is in a better position to judge.
No known propulsion system back in 20's & 30's not to mention dubious
aerodynamics.

STAIF leader Paul Murad has written that he too thinks the saucers are
real and he works for DIA in the Pentagon. In that regard Murad agrees
with the French chap below.

I received this. I have deleted many detailed images and designs from
the original document of more than 2 megs. My comments are sparse and
incomplete as I have not digested it nor really checked its
authenticity as yet. Caveat, this document is probably disinformation.
I am not endorsing it. Intelligent feedback welcome.

The document is mostly about MHD with copious images. There is some
wrong physics about anti-gravity that I excerpt here at beginning

" About anti-gravitation.
Research in theoretical cosmology which we have published, inspired by
information received through alien contacts, has led us to build a
cosmological model based on two universes,"

This model was discussed by Phillipe Gaugain in our recent Ideas of
March London Meeting March 17, 2004 described in my book "Super Cosmos"
http://qedcorp.com/destiny/SUPERCOSMOS.doc 5 meg file FREE ONLINE COPY
Now in production in hard copy and soon to be available from
http://amazon.com et-al

On May 18, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Berkant Goeksel wrote:

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/docs/Stargate-en.pdf

Unified Dirac-Maxwell field as space-time portal
Philippe-Alexandre GAUGAIN
mirror@europeanufosurvey.com


On May 18, 2004, at 7:08 PM, Berkant Goeksel wrote:


okay... now I have it... after looking at the homepage of the
European Ufo Survey... interesting.. shall I contact them??!

are you member of this group??

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/english.html

Mission Statement

We are an independant European team of about 28 scientists (
Physicists, Mathematicians, Astronomers, Biologists, Computering ,
Optics engineers, Free Energy researchers, Linguists,
Archeologists...) and free Ufo researchers who have been silently
involved in Ufological investigations for more than 20 years .

EUS is a diverse team from over 10 different European nationalities.
We share professional, respect and friendship links for a very long
time.
Each one of us have is accurate research field and skills and
individually deal with, and share his results when, and in the way
they wish with the rest of the team.

The most important thing for EUS:

Is to work and continue the research without any waste of time.
As many of us are in university careers, or the like, for the moment
we have decided to protect the private datas of the associate members
of the team, and publish our statements, and conclusions as a joint
voice of one accord, and thus the group EUS.



" ... which develops ideas put forward by Andrei Sakharov in 1976 : the
twin universe cosmology. We believe the latter also to have been in
contact with aliens. Just read the strange end terms of his speech,
which was read by his lady friend Helena Bonaire in Sweden on receiving
the Nobel Prize. This model consists of a two-fold universe or
double-universe. Australian researchers Foot and Volkas today follow a
similar path, calling it "mirror-universes" (papers published in
Physics Review). We have shown that the "apparent mass" of the "twin
universe" was negative, i.e. twin matter repels ours while two
particles of twin matter attract each other, in accordance with
Newton's law. This repulsion explains the re-acceleration of the
expansion of our universe, while it slows down the expansion of the
twin."

I am skeptical of this particular model. It is not needed. See my book
for details.

"When interstellar vessels cruise over huge distances, they use the
twin as a sort of "express subway". In this universe, which is
extremely rarefied in regions adjacent to ours, distances are shortened
and the speed of light is high. This makes space travel possible,
subject to the principle : "it is illegal to exceed the speed of light
of the universe in which one is travelling."

The Alcubierre "FTL without ftl" weightless warp drive solution solves
this problem without needing a huge Kerr-Newman black hole and with my
/\zpf field for the exotic vacuum w = -1 zero point dark energy/matter
we can implement that solution in principle.

"One American research team is working on an idea based on attempting
locally to modify the value of the speed of light; the "warp driving
concept"."

He probably means Hal Puthoff. I refute Hal's "PV" dielectric program
in my book "Super Cosmos." It has no chance of working in my opinion.
It has already been contradicted by experiment in the case of the
pulsar data as shown by Michael Ibison who works with Hal. I call this
NASA BPP where "BPP" means "Broken Propulsion Program." ;-)

Note "with the help of aliens"
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html :-)

"Our approach is different and far more advanced. With the help of
aliens, it has taken us years just to begin understanding how it works
and it would require pages to describe. In principle, the vehicle's
mass must be transferred to the twin universe."

This whole idea of changing mass m is wrong-headed and muddled. Hal
Puthoff has a version of it, and it is in Nick Cook's book "The Hunt
for Zero Point."

Standard physics for rest mass of lepto-quarks is the "Higgs mechanism"

m ~ (coupling)(vacuum coherence) at scale ~ 10^-16 cm

You do not want to change e/m ratios and e^2/hc even if you could
because that will blow up the matter so modified!

What you have on timelike worldlines that are NOT free float geodesic

W = mg

and it is the g you control with metric engineering! You leave m alone!
Change it at your peril! Changing m is Mickey Mouse in Sorceror's
Apprentice in Walt Disney's "Fantasia."

"When this operation takes place near the Earth, the latter becomes
invisible to the craft but acts on it as a negative, repulsive mass. If
the stations in our universe and in the adjacent region if the twin are
rapidly alternated, this is not detected by an observer, however in one
phase the vessel drops under the Earth's attraction, while in the other
it rises under the Earth's repulsion. Globally this amounts to an
apparent cancellation of the vessel's weight, whichever it's mass may
be. This is our interpretation of what people call anti-gravitation. We
do not know whether aliens have given earthlings the tip about those
techniques."

The "French' are wrong here. One can cancel weight W, but that is a
primitive way to put it. The idea is that the flying saucer can steer
its only local timelike geodesic in which it is weightless! W = 0, m
stays the same! You do this with a nano-mesh phase array of devices
embedded in the fuselage of the saucers that controls the /\zpf field
configuration in Einstein's exotic vacuum equation

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

With stress-energy density current flow conserved according to

Guv^;v + /\zpf^,vguv = 0

/\zpf is the source pump to metric engineer Guv as desired with small
amounts of on-board power using delicate phase matching as in the
Josephson effect. The weak link is between the control high Tc
superconductor coherence in each node of the mesh and the vacuum
coherence as shown in math detail in my book "Super Cosmos."

Obviously the French "CNRS" do not understand how anti-gravity zero
point energy metric engineering works any better than Hal Puthoff,
STAIF and NASA BPP. I show above how it really works.

The MHD stuff has nothing to do with anti-gravity and my remarks do not
apply to the MHD information in this document.


"Open Letter from a group of French scientists to the Initiator of the
Disclosure Project.

Introduction.
We are a group of French scientists. We have read Dr. Greer's text on
the Disclosure Web site and have been impressed by his remarks. We are
convinced, as he is, that certain nations, and chiefly the US, have
been able to derive from the UFO files, from crashed UFO retrievals and
from possible contacts with aliens, information which has led to
entirely new scientific knowledge. We shall farther discuss the
assessment of developments achieved on the basis of these information.
The question is : "how far have they reached ?". We hold accurate
information about the American black programs linked with hypersonic
planes, be it the satellisable Aurora spy craft or a hypersonic long
range bomber for which the B2 is but a cover-up. Technical data in our
possession allow us, in this particular case, to sustain our
assertions. These technologies were directly derived from the analysis
of the wreck retrieved at Roswell, which was a hypersonic space shuttle
and not an interstellar vehicle. We deplore the fact that this reverse
engineering has only been applied to military ends, since these
techniques could have found better use, the one as a completely
re-reusable space launcher - much more efficient and cheaper than the
customary rockets - the other as a hypersonic commercial plane.

Possible antimatter synthesis.
Besides the above, it is highly presumable that the Americans have
mastered a massive antimatter production technique, this - and not the
"void energy" - being the near magic, inexhaustible future energy
coming out of nowhere; unless one considers the transformation of
matter into antimatter by thermonuclear compression as a means of
"extracting energy from the void". I shall add that once antimatter has
been produced in this way, it can farther be used to produce more. No
nuclear explosion is needed at every start. However this technology
lays in the hands of humanity incredibly more destructive bombs than
the most powerful thermonuclear weapons presently available. It also
generates a potential straightforward war hazard through the fact that
very small quantities of antimatter can be stocked in crystals under
very stable electrostatic confinement; this allows the production of
tiny bombs - "bucky balls" - , the size of an egg, thermal shield
included, of 40 ton TNT power. Thanks to their relatively limited power
and the fact that no waste is produced, these bombs could readily be
used. Instead of dropping high power bombs on isolated targets, which
would throw up great quantities of pulverulent matter into the high
atmosphere and generate nuclear winter effects, it would be possible to
scatter a great number of these mini antimatter bombs and cause equal
damage, whilst avoiding that the dust should rise at high altitudes and
generate a nuclear winter. We believe that the US already possess a
considerable number of such weapons with which they would be capable of
reducing whole countries to ashes, and we fear that these devices will
soon be discreetly brought into action on more restricted scales. This
takes us far out of sight of the positive applications of which
Humanity could benefit from such a technology and thus produce, as Dr.
Greer rightly puts it, "flowering deserts".

The raw material and waste problem.
We believe that the ET vehicles visiting us use antimatter, stocked on
board or synthesised, as primary source of energy. This basic energy
could be put to a wide range of uses. One of the most useful is to
master the transmutation of materials and be thus able to synthesise at
will any type of atom. Coupled with a very advanced nano-technology,
this would allow the most complex systems to be synthesised without
human intervention, i.e. without "work". Inversely, any system composed
of atoms could be converted into neutral waste such as helium, the
typically ideal waste. If we survive the next century, this is the
picture of our future technology. If such a set of techniques were
completed with a more comprehensive approach of biology then that which
is practised on Earth today, the Human being would have the keys of a
Golden Age within arm's reach.

Present state of technology on Earth.
We do not know how far these technologies may have been developed on
Earth. To this date we may only strongly suspect that antimatter
synthesis through thermonuclear compression has been obtained in the US
towards the end of the sixties; we shall farther come back to this.
Another problem raised by Dr. Greer is machine weight reduction,
suppression or even inversion (anti-gravity). We consider this as
feasible. This is the technique used by UFO's when they hover without
any air displacement. In our opinion this can only be understood via an
important paradigm shift, a different way of comprehending space and
matter. But this is still speculative and we suggest also coming back
to it farther on. Anti-gravity control could obviously be applied to
civilian transportation, but far beyond this, we think it would open
the way to outer space travel. Here again, we shall postpone the
subject to the end of this paper.

Our comments on the Space Energy Access Systems.
However commendable the feeling from which this project arises, we are
doubtful as to its chances of success. We think that its applications
(unlimited energy production, anti-gravity), even though physically
conceivable, would call for very expensive advanced technologies. By
comparison one could imagine the Foundation offering men of the
Antiquity a full purse of gold to whomever would fly a plane with three
passengers over more than six miles. We are sceptical as to the
compatibility of such techniques with soft technologies within reach of
amateurs and moderately sized laboratories. Such developments may, to
our mind, only be envisaged by large scale laboratories with
considerable funds for which a million dollar prize would seem but a
derisory sum compared with the cost of such research. Consequently,
laboratories of that size would inevitably be part of the
military-industrial lobbies. At best would the supporters of such a
project be rewarded with interesting theoretical ideas, but no
exploitable practical results. Such is our opinion, but of course we
may be mistaken.

Our answer to the Disclosure Manifest.
Whilst we are not in a state to submit to Dr. Greer plans for an
unlimited energy producing machine or one that could suppress the force
of gravity, we are, on the other hand, able to present strong arguments
in support of his campaign against the diversion of technologies by
military-industrial complexes elusive to American political power and
dedicated to serve a few who seek world domination by force. The
elements we are in a state to produce are related to underwater high
velocity propulsion and construction of very long range hypersonic
planes, both these techniques being based on what is called
magneto-hydro-dynamics, or MHD.

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above from a "Dr Petit" allegedly of CNRS in Paris?


Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:37:55 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons


Mama mia... I have not read the Petit text.. maybe I should do now..

please note that I was introduced to Paul Murad by Gary Stephenson
from Boeing.. Gary was fascinated from the MHD Braking idea which is
not mine.. I only revived the idea of Prof. Ali Bülent Cambel and
also the work of Prof. Arthur Kantrowitz..

it seems that aerospace companies are highly interested in MHD
Braking... I did not know.. the French MHD text forwarded by Jack
was sent to me by an Italian aerospace engineer from Alenia.. like
Gary from Boeing he was interested in MHD Braking and papers of
Cambel who by the way was also science advisor to the White House
when Kennedy was president..

The MHD stuff may be very important to conventional machines, but is not directly important for anti-gravity warp drive.


and several days ago I was also contacted by a German Aerospace
company.. they will come with a delegation soon.. mama mia..
I did not know that MHD is so interesting...

there are virtual and real plasmons.. I think Jack is talking about
virtual plasmsons whereby me and other talk about real plasmons..

The only link I can see for what I need would be a macro-quantum condensate of plasmons (real or virtual) in a pumped open system far from thermodynamic equilibrium (Prigogine dissipative structure & Frohlich pumped non-equilibrium macro-condensates) whose giant coherent wave can interfere with the giant physical vacuum wave it shares same space with to form a Josephson weak link. Changing the relative phase between control condensate and vacuum condensate in a given volume element changes the Tr(K) Alcubierre warp drive field configuration of the self-controlled free float timelike geodesic path of the ship. The coherent phase nano-array imbedded all over the ship's outer hull enables it to execute hairpin turns instantly without any g-forces on the ship and crew.


the second may be more of a secondary effect.. so I doubt that ufos
have only MHD propulsion which would only work in atmosphere..

it is a nice synchronicity here that trixcleverspace mentioned the
old message

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SarfattiScienceSeminars/message/3171

I will come back to plasmons.. this is a key item..
and I agree with Jack that the key people at DoD, NASA etc. have no
idea about this.. so I also won't go to STAIF2005..


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:57:14 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: P. Murad and V. I Dyatlov


Alexander may know understand why I am interested in the review of
the Dyatlov book.. I hope he is able to send us PDF copies of the
review papers from Academicians of the Russian Academy of Sciences..

BTW, the following informations have nothing to do with Gary's
article to PRAVDA.. it only come out as a result of reviewing papers
on MHD!!!


Here we go with a paper from Paul about celestial mechanics and the
works of Jefimenko and Dyatlov.. anyone interested can email me for
a Winword DOC copy

Yes, send me one. Thanks.


--

ROTATION EFFECTS OF BODIES IN CELESTIAL MECHANICS

Lavrentiev M.M., Dyatlov V.L., Fadeev S.I., Murad P.A.*, Kostsova
N.E.

Russia, Novosibirsk, Institute of Mathematics SB RAN
*USA, Vienna, Virginia

The gravitational equations of Heaviside are used to derive the
momentum equations of celestial mechanics. The derivation includes
a gravity potential that has additional terms that account for the
spin (torsion) field of the sun and the galaxy which are ignored in
both Newtonian theory as well as Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
These 'spin' terms account for rotation of the sun, planetary
bodies, and other space objects as well as the contraction of the
elliptical orbits of the planets moving around the sun. The
consequences of the gravity theory of Heaviside are numerically
verifiable and represent a modern approach to better understand
Astronautics.

---

A UNIFIED MACROSCOPIC MODEL OF MATTER AND THE PHYSICAL VACUUM
Dyatlov V.L., Murad P.A.*, Kostsova N.E.

Russia, Novosibirsk, Institute of Mathematics SB RAN
*USA, Vienna, Virginia.

Matter consists of elementary particles with both a positive rest
mass and energy. The physical vacuum is a heterogeneous medium that
possess a neutral charge, polarization, electrical, magnetic,
gravitational, and spin fields. To understand each, a unified
macroscopic model is created based upon the foundations of four
different but interconnected theories. These are electrodynamics
from Maxwell; gravidynamics from Heaviside; the special theory of
relativity; and mechanics. This union creates a more complete
description to describe macroscopic physical processes exhibited in
both matter and the physical vacuum.
The introduction of the Heaviside theory into the model of the
physical vacuum allows an extension that includes explaining the
rotation effects of planetary bodies in celestial mechanics which
are ignored by Newtonian and special relativity theory as well as
the physical behavior of self-luminous bodies of natural anomalous
phenomena capable of penetrating through solid substance, emitting
radiation of electromagnetic waves, initiating electrical and
magnetic field, levitation, rotation, explosions, and the
modification of matter.

---


I. INTRODUCTION

There is always a requirement to examine the gravity
potential in problems involving orbital mechanics. Obviously with
the success of current models, changes in the gravity gradient are
included to the point that oceans, mountain peaks, and ore deposits
are adequately described and the orbital prediction and tracking of
a satellite is well-known beyond needed accuracies. Why look at a
new potential?
The Newtonian approach suggests that gravity can be
represented as a LaPlacian function. Einstein did not feel that
gravity could be felt instantaneously and looked at a model which
could support wave phenomenon. He extended this into a model which
used space-curvature to predict orbital motion of a body where the
curve was a consequence of the gravity environment. His initial
approach of developing an equation capable of supporting waves was a
far better representation that would be easier to implement in lieu
of looking at soliton solutions.
The problem with relativistic speeds is that the relativity factor
now becomes a parameter where a singularity occurs when an object
reaches the speed of light. Mass becomes infinite as well as
certain magnetic and electric field components, electric and
magnetic charges also become infinite. Based upon previous efforts,
the point was raised that a space propulsor that incorporates these
electromagnetic effects is an ideal approach to treat the infinite
increase in mass that is a consequence at light speed.
These issues are complex by themselves. The issue remains regarding
the environment and what occurs to gravity at these conditions?
Newtonian potentials imply that there is no effect whatsoever and
one wonders why light is bent when it travels near a star.
Newtonian gravity offers no explanation. On this basis, the
Jefimenko gravity model offers a different approach. This model
based upon ideas from Heaviside, treats gravity as a function of
both position and velocity. Moreover, the relativity factor is
directly incorporated into this model and does not need to be
treated as a separate factor for relativistic conditions. The
interesting issue with Jefimenko's model is that as velocity
increases, the gravitational attraction also increases. For a
particle moving at the speed of light, the attraction becomes
infinite.
A useful test of the accuracy of a model is to extend the model over
different conditions of interest. For example, the model may appear
reasonable at relativistic conditions but is it suitable at other
conditions? This is the crux of this analysis. The problem will be
to investigate Jefimenko's gravity model to examine its effects upon
the classical two-body and restricted three-body problem of
celestial mechanics. This will be at nominal satellite conditions.
Moreover, the analysis will be extended to see if any dispersion can
occur to treat other problems such as the perihelion of Mercury.
After these results are created and assessed, problems involving sub-
and faster than light speed trajectories will also be treated? In
these last situations, the trajectories will look at an accelerating
spacecraft under electromagnetic power to reach these speeds as well
as a spacecraft having an initial light-speed velocity decelerating
by approaching either a single or two-body system.
One needs to ask the question about what is to be gained by
such an approach. Obviously, a more accurate model would be able
to better predict satellite trajectories but at what additional
expense in computational time or accuracy? From viewing Newtonian
gravitational theory, sufficient terms are included to account for
gravitational perturbations due to mountain ranges and the oceans.
Such a model could be expanded by hundreds of terms to account for
these effects which can hardly be viewed as Newtonian or an inverse
function of distance, but now such a gravity model is really in a
class all by itself. This particular effort is not to raise
questions about such an extension of the Newtonian model but to
address first-order questions. This includes looking toward a model
that could, for example, address the perihelion of Mercury problem
which was used to substantiate Einstein's Theory of Relativity as
well as provide a means for estimating the speed of gravitational
waves.

II. DISCUSSION

This section will present the Jefimenko model and the conventional
wisdom regarding some approaches for examining solutions to Kepler's
two-body problem and the restricted three-body problem of celestial
mechanics.

A. The Jefimenko Gravitation Model

Jefimenko20,21 provides some other very interesting insights
into this problem. He introduces a gravitation field as well as a
cogravitation field defined by the equation:

...

This equation resembles the Lorentz force acting on an
electromagnetic particle. This is a crucial analytical finding
based upon Heaviside's 1893 paper where equations are shown similar
to Maxwell's equations, to describe gravity. Jefimenko also
introduces cogravity to account for relativistic effects acting upon
a rest mass.

...

The propagation velocity, per Jefimenko, is less than light speed;
we shall modify this approach by assuming this velocity is actually
greater than light speed. Moreover, these expressions for steady-
state revert to Newtonian gravity. Interestingly these equations
include all pseudo-analytical or pseudo-wave relations necessary to
define unique vectors.

...

To decrease gravitational force acting on our light-speed
spacecraft, we should select a path that reduces the radius-velocity
and radius-acceleration vector cross-products. A test of this
gravity model would be to examine a photon passing a large body.
With Jefimenko's cross-product term, each photon's trajectory
depends upon grazing angle and closeness to the large body. Our
light-speed vehicle acts like a photon!

This includes an acceleration term. Gravity is a function of the
radius vector emanating from the larger body and as in previous
Jefimenko models, includes a term that accounts for relativistic
effects operating on a rest mass.
There is another point worth mentioning. With the gravity
gradient as an inverse function of distance, gravity acts as a
singularity at the origin. With the addition of radial terms, other
more pronounced effects take place. For example, a value of 1/r2
provides what Popescu calls a gravitovortex wave. Popescu also
indicates that such gravitational waves could cause spiral
trajectories. Dyatlov also calls this a gravispin wave. The reason
is that such a function admits the existences of vortices as
solutions to Laplace's equation. For the Jefimenko model, such terms
can be considered as a gravitational torque that force planets to
alter their spin motion about the rotation axis. For this reason
due to its attraction from the Earth, we see the same side of the
moon.
There is another point of interest. What physical evidence
is there that such a gravitational field may exist? How does one
measure the magnitude of the vortex strength or gravitational
circulation in a gravispin wave? One physical artifact of such an
effect is the arms that extend outward from a spiral galaxy. These
could be due to sudden rotational motion of the galactic mass which
is the approach outlined by the conventional wisdom. Such a vortex
induced gravity field would produce similar effects and induce the
rotation as well.
It is clear that the adequacy of these models requires
examining the uncertainty where gravity strongly depends upon a
light-speed vehicle's trajectory to define velocity, acceleration,
vector cross- and dot products as the vehicle approaches or egresses
near a larger body.

...

Also, travelling at the speed of light may blur the distinction
whether the satellite orbit is elliptical or hyperbolic because of
the large speeds involved. The major factor that is off concern is
that the gravity of the planet using Jefimenko's gravity model will
increase drastically as we approach the light speed singularity.

...

B. The Three-Body Problem

The question is how to implement Jefimenko's gravity model
in these equations. The issue is that the three-body problem at the
speed of light may become meaningless as both bodies may act as a
singular mass. If the gravitational forces become infinite and our
trajectory goes, say, in the middle of the two bodies, we may then
argue that the bodies act as a 'light' trap and a stable trajectory
may result where the vehicle decelerates under tremendous stress to
the point that with reduced velocity and the sudden decay in
gravitational attraction, the problem again becomes meaningful. A
consequence of such an analysis would be to use two nearby planets
as a means for decelerating or 'braking' the vehicle in lieu of
expending energy.

...

C. Mathematical Solution Behavior

Let us expand this point further to consider changes in the
solution where we operate on either side of the light speed
singularity.
It is not nature's fault a singularity occurs at the speed
of light, the fault is our inability to correctly model nature's
behavior. Moreover, what type of singularity should be expected?
Will this help explain the pseudo-transition that occurs with
changes in the canonical form? We do not want to gradually approach
the singularity and reside there before passing through but wish to
pursue passing through the singularity as rapidly as possible to
minimize residing at the speed of light as a segment of a light wave.
The problem posed by the light speed singularity was
previously discussed3-5. Recall our earlier statement about
punching through the singularity as being comparable to the problem
of an airplane passing through the singularity at transonic speed
from a physical context; it should be no different here. You have
similar singular behavior. In Asaro18 the problem was reduced to
complex variables with the definition of a complex velocity. The
singularity is treated in a similar fashion as passing through a
singularity in the complex plane. Although having mathematical
significance, there is no physical significance unless there is a
finite meaning to the term complex velocity. Thus there is no
magical tree but only a mathematical artifact. Moreover, the
singularity could be removed by multiplying by a factor moving the
term from the denominator to the numerator.
With these thoughts, one wonders what a crew would see inside of a
hyper-light spaceship. This is one reason to be concerned with the
speed of light in a coordinate system moving faster than light
speed. Either he sees no change if light moves at velocity c within
the ship or it will look as if water was poured over an object where
the water flows down distorting visible features. Light emitted
from an object in the spacecraft will appear as sheets formed by the
object and the angle they form with the body depends upon the
vehicle's velocity. If you look forward, you will only see objects
within the light cone that includes the observer. Likewise, if you
look rearward, you only see those objects within your own light cone.



References

1. I. N. Popescu: Gravitation, Pleading for a New Unified Theory of
Motion and Fields, Editrice Nagard, Foro Triano 1/A, Roma, Italia,
1988.
2. P.A. Murad: "Tsien's Method for Generating Non-Keplerian
Trajectories", AIAA Paper No. 91-0678 presented at the AIAA 29th
Aerospace Sciences Meeting, Reno, Nevada 7-10 Jan 1991.

3. P.A. Murad: "Tsien's Method for Generating Non-Keplerian
Trajectories, Part II- The Question of Thrust to Orbit a Sphere and
the Restricted Three-Body Problem", NASA Conference Publication
3186, Flight Mechanics/Estimation Theory Symposium 1992.
4. P.A. Murad: "A Mathematical Treatise on the Restricted Three-Body
Problem of Celestial Mechanics", AIAA Paper No. 75-8, presented at
the AIAA 13th Aerospace Sciences Meeting, January 1975.
5. P.A. Murad: "Hyper-Light Dynamics and the Effects of Relativity,
Gravity, Electricity and Magnetism", IAF Paper No. 99-S.6.02
presented at the 50th International Astronautical Congress in
Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Oct. 4-8, 1999.

6. P.A. Murad: "Hyper-Light Dynamics, Relativity, Gravity,
Electricity, and Magnetism", AIAA Paper No. 99-2696, to be presented
at the 35th AIAA/ASME/ SAE/ASEE Joint Propulsion Conference in Los
Angeles, Calif. 20-23 June 1997.

7. P.A. Murad: "An Extended Navier-Stokes Algorithm and The
Challenges of Relativistic Fluid Dynamics", AIAA Paper No. 99-0562,
presented at the 37th Aerospace Sciences Meeting, Jan 11-14, 1999,
Reno, Nevada.

8. P.A. Murad: "Challenges Posed By Hyper-Light Trajectories", AAS
Paper No. 98-138 presented at the AAS/AIAA Space Flight Mechanics
Meeting in Monterey, Calif. 9-11 February 1998.

9. P.A. Murad: "An Ansatz On Hyper-Light Travel", AIAA Paper No.
97-3213 presented at the 33rd AIAA/ASME/ SAE/ASEE Joint Propulsion
Conference in Seattle, Wa., 6-9 July 1997.

10. P.A. Murad: "An Electromagnetic Rocket Hyper-Light Stellar
Drive", IAF Paper No. IAA-96-IAA.4.1.07 in the Proceedings of the
47th IAF Congress in Beijing, China 7-11 Oct. 1996.

11. P.A. Murad: "An Electromagnetic Rocket Stellar Drive....Myth or
Reality? Part I- Electromagnetic and Relativistic Phenomenon", AIAA
Paper No. 95-2602 presented at the 31st AIAA/ASME/SAE/ ASEE Joint
Propulsion Conference in San Diego, 8 July 1995.

12. P.A. Murad: "An Electromagnetic Rocket Stellar Drive....Myth or
Reality? Part II- Fluid Dynamic Interactions and an Engine Concept",
AIAA Paper No. 95-2894 presented at the 31st AIAA/ ASME/SAE/ASEE
Joint Propulsion Conference in San Diego, 10 July 1995.

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:02:56 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Classical electromagnetic devices to generate macroscopic Kerr-Newman singularit


The following paper seems at first view close to the work of Hans-
Georg Kuessner (book published after WWII in 1946 and 1976) from
Germany:


Unified Dirac-Maxwell field as space-time portal
Philippe-Alexandre GAUGAIN

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/docs/Stargate-en.pdf




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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:24:31 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: Classical electromagnetic devices to generate macroscopic Kerr-Newman singularit


Now I find the time to read the "Open Letter from a group of French
scientists to the Initiator of the Disclosure Project."

Before we go into details.. please let me note the following..
several months ago I purchased two interesting books:

1. Luftwaffe - Secret Projects - Strategic Bombers 1935-1945
by Dieter Herwig and Heinz Rode

2. Luftwaffe - Secret Projects - Fighter 1939 - 1945
by Walter Schick and Ingolf Meyer

Look for those books at www.amazon.com

Now let me add that Prof. Kuessner was involved in many of those
projects.. he was the leading expert in aeroelasticity and unsteady
aerodynamics.. after WWII he was head of DLR (German NASA)
Aeroelasticity Section in Gottingen.. the same place where you can
find the Max-Planck-Institute for Fluiddynamics...

But Kuessner also worked on quaternion and Clifford algebra Maxwell
equations.. furthermore, please note that with Prof. Winfried-Otto
Schumann the Germans had a leading expert in EM-Plasma-
Interactions.. after WWII Prof. Schumann could keep his chair at TU
Munich and was member of the Bavarian Academy of Sciences.. years
later the earth resonance frequency was named after Schumann who
might be aware of Tesla's interesting ideas...

I do not want to speculate but I find it curious that the French
group writes:

"These technologies were directly derived from the analysis of the
wreck retrieved at Roswell, which was a hypersonic space shuttle and
not an interstellar vehicle. We deplore the fact that this reverse
engineering has only been applied to military ends, since these
techniques could have found better use, the one as a completely re-
reusable space launcher - much more efficient and cheaper than the
customary rockets - the other as a hypersonic commercial plane."

A hypersonic space shuttle?? Let's assume it was a secret German
spyplane.. maybe?? maybe not?? if not.. what else could it be? a
craft from old cilizations?? maybe?? maybe not??
maybe there was even nothing but only myths.. I do not know..

but after WWII the USA have got all those scientists via Paperclip..
also the now famous fusion expert Friedwart Winterberg... so I find
the French group's conclusions irritating..

Paul Murad sent the following abstract which is very interesting..
maybe he wanted to interest me.. Jack obviously overread this part..

please note that the idea of Inertial Electrostatic Confinement
(IEC) is decades old.. and it is said that it is a fusion technique
which really works..

---

Combining MHD Airbreathing and Fusion Rocket Propulsion
for Single Stage-to-Orbit Flight
Principal Author H.D. Froning, Jr. 1
Co-authors: G.H. Miley,2 J. Nadler, Y. Shaban, H. Momota,3 E. Burton4

1Flight Unlimited, 5450 Country Club Dr., Flagstaff, AZ 86004, USA
2 Fusion Studies Lab, University of Illinois, 103 S. Goodwin Ave.,
Urbana, IL 61801, USA
3 NPL Associates, 912 W. Armory, Champaign, IL 61821, USA
4 Aeronautical and Aerospace Engineering, University of Illinois
206b Talbot Lab, 104 S. Wright, Urbana, IL 51801, USA

ABSTRACT

Studies in Russia, Europe, and the US have shown that Magneto-Hydro-
Dynamic (MHD) processes can extract electricity for vehicle and
propulsion power from slowed airflow within airbreathing engines,
while reducing propulsive losses and propellant consumption during
high-speed atmospheric flight. And the study reported in this paper
shows that: (1) further reduction in airbreathing propellant
consumption is possible by use of energies from aneutronic fusion
processes, that emit no harmful radiation; and (2) the aneutronic
fusion processes can also enable subsequent fusion rocket propulsion
to achieve, with minimal propellant expenditure, much higher speeds
in space.

For this Study, the aneutronic Inertial Electrostatic Confinement
(IEC) propulsion system design by Dr. Robert Bussard was used
because of its potential for high thrust-to-weight. Hydrogen
propellant is used as fuel in the MHD airbreathing system and as
working fluid in the fusion rocket system, and Boron 11 and protons
would be the aneutronic nuclear fuels used to accomplish fusion.
Both MHD airbreathing and aneutronic fusion propulsion systems share
common subsystems: flow channels, superconducting magnets, electron
beams (for flow ionization and flow heating), and power conditioning
to minimize total propulsion system mass. And use of electric power,
generated by MHD airbreathing, enables in-flight ignition of the
fusion system, while fusion system energy deposition into engine
airflow enables additional airbreathing thrust with no additional
propellant consumption.

The paper also describes some of the most critical issues associated
with accomplishment of aneutronic IEC fusion, together with critical
issues associated with integration of a fusion propulsion and power
system with MHD airbreathing propulsion and power. Some subsystem
performance and design requirements for the most critical elements
of the MHD and fusion systems are also identified.

Although accomplished work is not yet sufficient for confirming the
feasibility of MHD airbreathing and aneutronic fusion for future
flight, use of combining such propulsion was explored for single-
stage-to-orbit flight to low earth orbit. It was found that SSTO
vehicle takeoff and propellant mass for MHD airbreathing and IEC
fusion could be as much as 25 and 40 percent respectively less than
that of a SSTO vehicle with ordinary airbreathing and IEC fusion.
And SSTO vehicle takeoff and propellant mass for MHD airbreathing
and fusion rocket propulsion would be as much as 50 and 70 percent
respectively less that of a SSTO vehicle with MHD airbreathing and
chemical rocket propulsion.



--- In SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, "Berkant"
wrote:

The following paper seems at first view close to the work of Hans-
Georg Kuessner (book published after WWII in 1946 and 1976) from
Germany:


Unified Dirac-Maxwell field as space-time portal
Philippe-Alexandre GAUGAIN

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/docs/Stargate-en.pdf



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 03:36:35 +0400 (MSD)
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
Subject: Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/english.html
...
" ... which develops ideas put forward by Andrei Sakharov in 1976 : the
twin universe cosmology. We believe the latter also to have been in
contact with aliens. Just read the strange end terms of his speech,
which was read by his lady friend Helena Bonaire in Sweden on receiving
the Nobel Prize.

[Konkretny]
See "the strange end terms" of Sakharov's speech read by
his wife Elena Bonner-Sakharova:
http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1975/sakharov-acceptance.html
Quote:
"...I would like to end my speech expressing the hope
in a final victory of the principles of peace and
human rights. The best sign that such hope can come
true would be a general political amnesty in all
the world, liberation of all prisoners of conscience
everywhere. The struggle for a general political
amnesty is the struggle for the future of mankind.

I am deeply grateful to the Nobel Committee for awarding
me the Nobel Peace Prize for 1975, and I beg you
to remember that the honour which was thus granted
to me is shared by all prisoners of conscience in
the Soviet Union and in other Eastern European countries
as well as by all those who fight for their liberation."

SFW? What is so "strange" about Sakharov's words and what
do they have to do with UFOs?


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:38:14 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Father of Jet Engine Von Ohain - Expert in Electrofluidsystems


PS:

It is not widely known that the father of the jet engine Von Ohain
who after WWII worked for Wright-Patterson AFB was also an expert in
electrofluiddynamic generators..

this is something which should be considered..

with such a EFD generator you are able to generate high voltage
energy from your jet engine.. you need some modifications between
the combustion chamber and the turbine..

you may know those rumours regarding the B2-Bomber.. there are
claims that this craft also uses a EFD generator.. why not?? it is
nothing which could not be engineered.. furthermore a charged
exhaust doesn't generate contrails as it affects the vapor
condensation.. did you know that this was already shown by Helmholtz
in the end of the 19th century.. Helmholtz made experiments with hot
water vapor and used high voltage discharges and also sulfid acid
(again a stealthy mixture often mentioned to be used to remove
contrails).. you see it is nothing new.. and all mentioned in my
thesis works for years...

Furthermore, before Guenther Kappler founded BMW-Rolls-Royce
Deutschland he was aeronautics professor at TU Munich.. at his
institute he also had a section Electrofluiddynamics headed by Dr.
Wolfgang Dittrich.. a student of Prof. Schumann.. if I recall
correctly.. Dittrich published several reports in Germany..
but up-to-date I do not know who is applying those techniques.





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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 03:47:07 +0400 (MSD)
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
Subject: Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons

OK, I got it; they should have been more specific. What they
meant was obviously Sakharov's Nobel Lecture:
http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1975/sakharov-lecture.html

"...Thousands of years ago tribes of human beings suffered great privations in the struggle to survive. In this struggle it was important not only to be able to handle a club, but also to possess the ability to think reasonably, to take care of the knowledge and experience garnered by the tribe, and to develop the links that would provide cooperation with other tribes. Today the entire human race is faced with a similar test. In infinite space many civilizations are bound to exist, among them civilizations that are also wiser and more "successful" than ours. I support the cosmological hypothesis which states that the development of the universe is repeated in its basic features an infinite number of times. In accordance with this, other civilizations, including more "successful" ones, should exist an infinite number of times on the "preceding" and the "following" pages of the Book of the Universe. Yet this should not minimize our sacred endeavors in this world of ours, where, like faint glimmers of light in the dark, we have emerged for a moment from the nothingness of dark unconsciousness of material existence. We must make good the demands of reason and create a life worthy of ourselves and of the goals we only dimly perceive."

Anyway I fail to see in these words any indication of Sakharov's
being an alien contactee.

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/english.html
...
" ... which develops ideas put forward by Andrei Sakharov in 1976 : the
twin universe cosmology. We believe the latter also to have been in
contact with aliens. Just read the strange end terms of his speech,
which was read by his lady friend Helena Bonaire in Sweden on receiving
the Nobel Prize.

[Konkretny]
See "the strange end terms" of Sakharov's speech read by
his wife Elena Bonner-Sakharova:
http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1975/sakharov-acceptance.html
Quote:
"...I would like to end my speech expressing the hope
in a final victory of the principles of peace and
human rights. The best sign that such hope can come
true would be a general political amnesty in all
the world, liberation of all prisoners of conscience
everywhere. The struggle for a general political
amnesty is the struggle for the future of mankind.

I am deeply grateful to the Nobel Committee for awarding
me the Nobel Peace Prize for 1975, and I beg you
to remember that the honour which was thus granted
to me is shared by all prisoners of conscience in
the Soviet Union and in other Eastern European countries
as well as by all those who fight for their liberation."

SFW? What is so "strange" about Sakharov's words and what
do they have to do with UFOs?


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:05:48 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Heim

I got one of the Heim papers.
It is too complicated. I get a lot more with a lot less.
However Heim cites Saul-Paul Sirag and Blackett Effect so I sent the
paper to Saul-Paul. Maybe he will have patience to wade through it.
Heim claims to compute particle masses.



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:04:22 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons

I did not write that. The French guy Peit from CNRS allegedly wrote it.
On May 18, 2004, at 4:36 PM, Alexander Konkretny wrote:

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/english.html
...


Message: 17
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:51:13 +0400 (MSD)
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
Subject: Richard Feynman on Cargo Cult Science Re: Rabbi Sarfatti introduces "Torsion Field Invocation"

http://www.leninism.org/stream/96/cargo_cult_science.htm

From Cargo Cult Science by Richard Feynman:

"That's just an example of the kind of things that overwhelm me. I also looked into extrasensory perception, and PSI phenomena, and the latest craze there was Uri Geller, a man who is supposed to be able to bend keys by rubbing them with his finger. So I went to his hotel room, on his invitation, to see a demonstration of both mindreading and bending keys. He didn't do any mindreading that succeeded... And my boy held a key and Geller rubbed it, and nothing happened. Then he told us it works better under water, and so you can picture all of us standing in the bathroom with the water turned on and the key under it, and him rubbing the key with his finger. Nothing happened...

But then I began to think, what else is there that we believe? (And I thought then about the witch doctors, and how easy it would have been to check on them by noticing that nothing really worked.) So I found things that even more people believe, such as that we have some knowledge of how to educate. There are big schools of reading methods and mathematics methods, and so forth, but if you notice, you'll see the reading scores keep going down -- or hardly going up -- in spite of the fact that we continually use these same people to improve the methods. There's a witch doctor remedy that doesn't work. It ought to be looked into; how do they know that their method should work? Another example is how to treat criminals. We obviously have made no progress -- lots of theory, but no progress -- in decreasing the amount of crime by the method that we use to handle criminals...

So we really ought to look into theories that don't work, and science that isn't science...

Another example is the ESP experiments of Mr. Rhine, and other people. As various people have made criticisms -- and they themselves have made criticisms of their own experiments -- they improve the techniques so that the effects are smaller, and smaller, and smaller until they gradually disappear. All the para-psychologists are looking for some experiment that can be repeated -- that you can do again and get the same effect -- statistically, even. They run a million rats -- no, it's people this time -- they do a lot of things are get a certain statistical effect. Next time they try it they don't get it any more. And now you find a man saying that is is an irrelevant demand to expect a repeatable experiment. This is science?"

Gennady I Shipov wrote:

The psychophysical phenomena constitute a part of reality, a part of the Nature. If traditional physics cannot explain them, it follows only that it is incomplete and that a new physical paradigm is required. The theories of Physical Vacuum and of the Ricci torsion fields, which are being actively developed today in Russia, provide precisely this new paradigm as a natural and logical continuation of the present science. They explain the Nature in its entirety and do not overlook the "inconvenient" phenomena.


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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:55:46 +0400 (MSD)
From: "Alexander Konkretny"
Subject: Re: PRAVDA & French "CNRS" on exotic "UFO" weapons

Sure, Jack, I did not write that you had written it. I was just
commenting on what the French guy had written.

I did not write that. The French guy Peit from CNRS allegedly wrote it.
On May 18, 2004, at 4:36 PM, Alexander Konkretny wrote:

http://www.europeanufosurvey.com/english.html
...
" ... which develops ideas put forward by Andrei Sakharov in 1976 :
the
twin universe cosmology. We believe the latter also to have been in
contact with aliens. Just read the strange end terms of his speech,
which was read by his lady friend Helena Bonaire in Sweden on
receiving
the Nobel Prize.

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:59:06 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: New data on dark energy Chandra: Thumbs up for w = -1.

Excellent news. They are saying w = -1 as I have said. This and CDMSII
refuting Italian false positives is thumbs up for my theory in "Super
Cosmos" thumbs down for phantom energy w < -1 and thumbs down for
quintessence -1 < w < -1/3. Also thumbs down for dark matter as
supersymmetry partners.

Let's see if the experiments continue to confirm this in next few years.

This is all explained in my book Super Cosmos soon out as well as in my
two previous books Destiny Matrix and Space-Time and Beyond II from
late 2002.

On May 18, 2004, at 5:25 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:


NASA NEWS RELEASE:


http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2004/darkenergy/


Chandra Discovery Sheds Light on Dark Energy
05.18.04

New data from NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory is changing the way we
view the universe.

Astronomers using information from the orbiting observatory are
discovering the universe's expansion has been picking up speed. The
finding sheds light on a force known as "dark energy," which experts
believe will shape the fate of the universe.

Dark energy, which fills the space between galaxies and drives them
apart, is "perhaps the biggest mystery in physics," said Steve Allen
of the Institute of Astronomy (IoA) in Cambridge, England.

Image to left: In this still image from an animation, the universe has
just begun to expand after the Big Bang. Click image for animation.
Credit: NASA/Space Telescope Science Institute

Scientists have long wondered if the universe will collapse in on
itself billions of years from now in what many call the "Big Crunch."
Another theory states it will expand so rapidly that everything is
torn apart in the "Big Rip."

Fortunately, the Chandra findings indicate that these catastrophes
might be ruled out. The density of dark energy appears to be fairly
constant, or at least increasing slowly enough that the universe will
simply continue to expand forever. If this is the case, many billions
of years from now, only a few of the known galaxies we can see today
will be visible.

According to Chandra data, the expansion of the universe was gradually
slowing down until about 6 billion years ago, when it started to
accelerate, presumably because of the repulsive effect of dark energy.

Now, thanks to Chandra's unique capabilities, astronomers are
beginning to chip away at the wall of mystique surrounding dark
energy.

Image to right: This optical and X-ray composite image shows Abell
2029, one of 26 galaxy clusters studied by Chandra, located one
billion light years away. Click image for full size version. Credit:
Optical: National Optical Astronomy Observatory/Kitt Peak, X-ray:
NASA/Chandra X-ray Center/IoA

Allen and his colleagues at the IoA used Chandra to study 26 galaxy
clusters between 1 billion and 8 billion light years away.

Chandra's probe of dark energy relies on the unique ability of X-ray
observations to study the hot gas in galaxy clusters. By using Chandra
data to figure out the ratio of hot gas to dark matter, astronomers
determined how far away the clusters were and at what point in time
they were viewing them. They found the clusters were farther away than
expected, indicating an accelerated expansion.

Image to left: In this still image from an animation, a galaxy cluster
consists of galaxies (shown in white and yellow) and intergalactic gas
(shown in red). Click image for animation. Credit: NASA/Chandra X-ray
Center

Because galaxy clusters are the largest bound structures in the
universe, scientists consider them as scale models of the universe in
terms of matter content.

Einstein first proposed the concept of dark energy, calling it a
"cosmological constant" in his General Theory of Relativity. He
suggested that a repulsive force must be counteracting the pull of
gravity, creating a sort of equilibrium to maintain a static universe
that doesn't change in size. He later abandoned the idea, calling it
the biggest blunder of his life, when Edwin Hubble's observations
indicated the universe was expanding.

But it appears Einstein's idea had much more merit than he thought.

For now, astronomers still have many questions and dark energy is
keeping most of its secrets to itself. But more detailed studies with
NASA's Chandra, Hubble Space Telescope, Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy
Probe and future missions such as Constellation X should continue
providing answers.

To view the press release, related images and animations, visit:

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2004/darkenergy

Anna Heiney, KSC Staff Writer
Chandra X-ray Center and NASA's John F. Kennedy Space Center




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