From: sarfatti@pacbell.net
Subject: Cherenkov cone from Black EVOs? & v >> c Superluminal Warp Drive
Date: July 4, 2004 2:32:34 PM PDT
To: ItalianPhysicsCenter@YahooGroups.com
Cc: SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars@yahoogroups.com

On Jul 4, 2004, at 2:21 PM, Ken Shoulders wrote:

Jack

One more once.

In the paper I put on the web called "Charge Clusters in Action", there is an experiment shown that produces a very strange spot of intense light that I had the nerve to suggest was a Cherenkov effect caused by a sudden reversal of the EVO direction of travel due to impedance mismatch and "sloshing" of the material it carried. The peculiarity of this light source, as recorded on photographic film, was that it was localized in space as a spherical source with a dimension of only about 5 micrometers in diameter. This could actually be the Cherenkov radiation you have alluded to.

Ken

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Subject:
Re: Ken Shoulders Black EVOs & v >> c Superluminal Warp Drive

Date:
Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:09:47 -0700

From:
Ken Shoulders

To:
Jack Sarfatti

Jack

The cone could be there but is likely hard to detect as an optical
effect in the apparatus used for recording which only responds to
electrons, ions and x-rays. The visible light stuff is only seen with
the unaided eye and is likely lost in all the other confusion going on.
Too bad! Next time around.

Thanks for your notions. They help a lot.

Ken

On Jul 4, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

PS if the EVO is "black" because of v > c then there should be a Cherenkov cone effect.
http://www.fact-index.com/c/ch/cherenkov_effect.html

On Jul 4, 2004, at 1:40 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

re: http://qedcorp.com/destiny/warpdrive.pdf

On Jul 4, 2004, at 12:11 PM, Ken Shoulders wrote:

Jack

In the last paragraph of my note, you did not comment on your feelings for the black EV mode apparently exceeding the speed of light by a whole bunch. How can this observation be either corrected or rationalized?

I did not realize you meant v >> c.

That is NOT a problem. That is EXACTLY what we should see IF we are seeing a real ZPF warp drive effect in the EVOs?
The v >> c is already in Alcubierre's paper and is well known.
The point is locally v = 0 in the sense that the EVO is locally on a timelike geodesic - it's only to us outside observers that the effective v >> c.
That's because if the mesoscopic EVO is moving to the right on this screen, the blue-shifting /\zpf > 0 "dark energy" has negative quantum pressure that EXPANDS the 3D space at the back of the EVO and the red-shifting /\zpf < 0 "dark matter" has positive quantum pressure that CONTRACTS the 3D space at the front of the EVO.