Yes, that's me alright. Ladder to the Stars
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html
Ya'akov:
That cartoon starts with that bovine critter -- a clear reference to Taurus...
Then those two jars: one contains Taurus; and the other contains
that angelic flying critter (.... ) which is
a reference to Auriga... Can't help it: we are locked onto Auriga-Taurus!
Norman Quebedeau did that a few years ago!
Precognitive RV? i.e. sub-quantal non-equilibrium "signal nonlocality" in open macro-quantum systems.
Btw, in terms of additional Biblical references, the "Golden Calf" imagery
involves Aurum and Taurus, in the context of FORTY (40) years in
the wilderness among ROTEM trees and bushes.... and that bush that wouldn't
burn out -- is it a source of indefinite energy?
=j=
From: Jack Sarfatti
To: Dan Smith
Subject: Re: Eschatology 101: The Aviary Goes to Hebrew School!
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 12:24:29 -0700
On Aug 24, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Joel Isaacson wrote:
From: "Debby Newmark"
To: "Jack"
Subject: about Jack
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:28:34 -0400
Hi guys,
Joel , it is nice to see you call Jack, Jacob; after all, this name starts
with a YUD and we know that Yaacob was changed to Israel which also starts
with a YUD. The YUD is the smallest letter of the Hebrew alphabet however,
has a great importance. It cannot be divided and alludes to Hashem who is
One. While his attributes seem to be numerous, they all flow from one
unified purpose.
With the letter Yud Hashem created the world to come or a different world
from the one we live in. It also represents the metaphysical according to
Maharal: " In the smallest lies essence which is devoid of such physical
ballast as space, time or matter."
So what do you say Jack, don't you deserve to be called Jacob? :)
One more thing concerning the birds, if you read OR Aleph-Vav- Reish
backwards with the Atbash for the VAV and the ALEPH--------
REISH-PEY-TAV ------ you get REFET:) so in addition to the birds you may
also find some cows. :)
Yes, I have noticed "REFET" before... Refet houses cows and (also) bulls...
so, again, we have reference to Taurus!
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/bovines.html
Btw, we also have "Re'am"
(RAM) by re-arranging the letters AMR in Line 01. RAM is very significant
in the near-sacrifice of Iztchak by his father, Abraham... also, RAM is sometimes
considered more generically as ROEBUCK, and even she-goat, CAPLELLA...
And, yes, CAPELLA is a major star in constellation Auriga... so much
packed in so litttle... =jdi=
PS Yaakov (aka Yisrael) dreamt of reaching the Heavens via that
metaphorical ladder... also had contact with an angelic being, fought
him thru the long dark night, and earned the name of "Fighter with El" i.e., Yisrael,
or Israel... perhaps that's also about Jack ;-)
Yes, that's me alright. Ladder to the Stars
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html
On Aug 25, 2004, at 10:14 AM, SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com wrote:
There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. C. F. von Weizsaecker’s Reconstruction of Physics and Burkhard Heim
From: "Berkant"
2. FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
From: "Joel Isaacson"
3. The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
From: "Berkant"
4. Re: FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
From: "Berkant"
5. Re: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
From: "Berkant"
6. RE: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
From: "Joel Isaacson"
7. Re: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
From: "Berkant"
8. RE: Re: FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
From: "Joel Isaacson"
9. Re: Undaunted Genius Solomon Lefschetz
From: "Berkant"
10. ORigin: AURiga
From: "Joel Isaacson"
11. Ashkenazim and Khazars
From: "Berkant"
12. Ur - Mensch - As Metric Engineer
From: "trixcleverspacealien"
13. Metric Engineering 101 Problem Set 1
From: Jack Sarfatti
14. Re: Metric Engineering 101 Problem Set 1 Part II
From: Jack Sarfatti
15. Taurus-Auriga Lore...
From: "Joel Isaacson"
16. Re: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
From: "scerir"
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:49:08 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: C. F. von Weizsaecker’s Reconstruction of Physics and Burkhard Heim
I suppose that Heim's 12-dimensional theory was partly inspired by
the philosophy of physics of his teacher Weizsaecker. Heim got his
diploma in physics in 1954 when Weiszaecker "had the crucial idea:
the quantum theory of a binary alternative is the theory of objects
in a three-dimensional space."
Please keep in mind that Heim does not have extra space dimensions.
Three-dimensionality of position space is essential. The additional
dimensions are needed to describe informational processes in the
sense of Weiszaecker's ur-theory.
See below, the author mentions Rovelli, Ashtekar and Penrose.
This story reads like a divine comedy. Why?
Heim left the working group of Prof. von Weiszaecker because
Weiszaecker had not put enough confidence in the abilities of Heim
to work on the unified field theory. But Heim only wanted to work on
this topic. So Heim left and since then went his way alone but with
the confidence in his absolute mind.
And now we see the work of Weiszaecker's forgotten student who was
nearly blind, half-deaf and had no hands that his wife (married in
1950) and his father helped him during his physics study.
Heim has gone a long way and nobody is knowing him.
It must be the shame of modern physics of yesterday to future.
C. F. von Weizsaecker's Reconstruction of Physics:
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow
Holger Lyre
Philosophy Department,
University of Bonn
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0309183
p. 1:
Weizs¨acker's first book on the philosophy of physics, Zum Weltbild
der Physik, appeared in 1943 in its first edition—when his
professional main concern still was `real physics.' But already at
this time his `real interest' had shifted to the foundations of
quantum mechanics. About ten years later, at a spa in Bad Wildungen
in 1954, Weizsaecker had the crucial idea: the quantum theory of a
binary alternative is the theory of objects in a three-dimensional
space. Mathematically, he had just stumbled about the fact that SU
(2), the quantum theoretical symmetry group of a binary alternative,
is locally isomorphic to the three-dimensional rotation group SO(3)
in Euclidean space. Philosophically, however, this was
more "satisfying" than just to start with a certain symmetry, since
now the symmetry itself was distinguished by the fact that it is the
symmetry of the simplest logical object—a yes-no-alternative.
Couldn't this be a reason for the three-dimensionality of position
space?
Weizsaecker's approach rests on two main `ingredients': firstly, the
idea of reducing physics to binary alternatives and, secondly, the
connection between spin structures and the structures of time and
space. This second motive has caused David Finkelstein (1994) to
subsume Weizsaecker's approach under the heading of "spinorism" and
this will be my main concern in this and the following section.
...
p. 2:
Weizsaecker has called the empirically decidable binary alternatives
in his reconstruction uralternatives (from the German prefix `Ur-
': `original,' `elementary,' `pre-'). A bit whimsically, he later
called them urs. Urs may be considered the fundamental objects in
physics. As a matter of principle, any physical object can be built
out of them. The reader may note that at this point an interesting
conceptual shift has occurred. We started from the notion of
information, a subjective notion in the first place, and applied it
to the objective notion of a physical object. This is another way of
saying that objects are reduced or even `made out of' information. It
seems that via this shift information has been gained the status of
a substance. In the last section I shall indeed come back to this
challenging formula, as our present working hypothesis, however, we
will take an information-theoretic reductionist view of physics in
the sense that physical objects are entirely characterized by the
information which can be gained from them.
...
Any quantum object may further be de-composed or embedded into
the tensor product of two-dimensional objects, nowadays called
quantum bits or qubits. Urs, therefore, are in fact nothing but
qubits
...
p. 5:
Can all this give us a hint how to describe (quantum) gravity in ur-
theory? We may think of ... as representing four vector bosons, i.e.
massless `gravitons' with spin 1 ... This could perhaps describe the
gravitational field in non-standard form (i.e. not as a spin-2
field) in the linearized limit.
...
p. 6:
One nice starting point for an ur-theoretic gauge theory of gravity
could be the fact that the quantized ur-tetrad generates a group
which itself could be used as a proper gauge group. It can be shown
that the Lie algebra of the ur-tetrad operators is 12-dimensional...
p. 7:
Two questions are simply unavoidable then: Does information exist
without a carrier? Does information exist without an observer or
information-gathering system?
...
As Gerard 't Hooft (cf. his 2001) has pointed out, it does
characterize physical objects on the most fundamental level not by
the three-dimensional volume they occupy in space, but by
a `projection' of their degrees of freedom on a two-dimensional area
much like a hologram. He thus calls this idea the holographic
principle. From an ur-theoretic point of view, it is rather the
characterization of physical objects in terms of pure information,
which becomes evident here.
...
Indeed, the relevance of the Bekenstein entropy has been
acknowledged and partially explained in modern quantum gravity
programs—in string theory as well as in the quantum loop approach
(cf. Rovelli 1998b). Weizs¨acker's explanation—historically the
first—is a further alternative. The Ashtekar-inspired, canonical
quantum loop approach has indeed some core similarities with ur-
theory. Like Penrose's twistor approach, quantum loop gravity has
its most suitable representation in terms of spin networks. It is
certainly the most powerful among the spinoristic programs today,
whose key feature is that they are background-free. Of course, all
of the programs mentioned are mathematically by far more elaborated
than ur-theory, which merely is an outline or perhaps a raw
framework of a spinoristic theory. The true advantage of
Weizsaecker's approach is rather its philosophical underpinning—and
this may also serve other programs.
...
As a physical program, ur-theory surely suff ers from mathematical
elaboration as compared to other programs and does therefore not
even earn the name "theory" in a strict sense. But it is still
highly impressing that Weizs¨acker had his main starting ideas
already at a time, when other programs were far from being born. The
main ingredients of ur-"theory"—information and spinorism—do exist
as central motives in modern approaches as well (as pointed out in
the above). Perhaps the future development may lead to a mutual
stimulation between other programs and the ur-hypothesis—at any rate
this is what I wish Carl Friedrich von Weizsaecker from the heart.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:23:33 -0400
From: "Joel Isaacson"
Subject: FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
From: "Joel Isaacson"
To: Sarfatti@pacbell.net
CC: deborah2004@earthlink.net
Subject: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:00:29 -0400
There is an ancient Hebrew phrase: Torah - Aurah, which means:
"Torah is Light" (enlightening) or "Torah Illuminates".
I propose that TORah & AURah may be references to a Taurus-Auriga
visitation via chariot (flying machine).
Note that Ezekiel describes his creatures with features of BULLs, EAGLEs,
LIONs, with feets like those of a CALF (young BULL). "BULL" is accounted
for (via "TOR"); "EAGLE" is close enough to HAWK, which is also accounted
for (via "DOVE" -- also "TOR"); "LION" (Hebrew short version "ARI").
The letters Aleph-Reish-Yud are plentiful all over that diagram, from Line
01
and on. Line 01: ====AOR=== Take the dual of O (Mem) which is
I (Yud): ====AIR====
Read it in the order A-R-I, thus a clear reference to "LION". Note that
"BULL" (Taurus) dominates the features, because all creatures have
young bull's feet (and, presumably footsteps...) So, Taurus is
definitely indicated there. Auriga, the Charioteer, is indicated thru
the entire context of the Merkavah (the chariot); also, the feet
of the creatures shine like very shiny/perfect [Kalal] copper (close enough
to
Gold - AURum, in my book...;-)) ), Ezekiel 1:7.
Ezekiel's vision may, of course, be metaphorical, or symbolic; also,
the space travelers may have been advanced enough to assume forms
that are describable by references to ordinary features of creatures
known to people... but, I submit, there is a clear message that
a UFO from AURiga+Taurus has made contact with Ezekiel in the
Land of the Kasdim (aka Mesopotamia) Ezekiel 1:3.
That must have been a repeat visit; a follow up on [an] earlier visit(s)
where the initial Urim & Thummim codes/processes have been delivered to the
Urians.
The Urians recorded those things in their cultural artifacts, including
their sacred ziggurats. Abram, the Urian, has built on those
traditions, became Avraham ha'Ivri (Avraham the crosser; one who crosses
rivers or boundaries; one who breaks the mould (also the moulds
of clay 'gods'), one who thinks outside the box... hence Ivri ==>
Hebrew).
That's, at the moment, my best shot at a reasonable hypothesis. =jdi=
From: "Joel Isaacson"
To: Sarfatti@pacbell.net
CC: deborah2004@earthlink.net
Subject: RE: ALERT: More about RUT & DOVE/HAWK
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:29:36 -0400
This thing is getting weirder by the minute...
Overlapping with TOR is also AUR (short reference for AURUM - Gold!)
So, Tor Ha'Zahav (Golden Age) is totally in there, packed into the same
3-letter stretch.
Also, there is AURIGA (abbr. AUR), see below, with English name:
CHARIOTEER.
Auriga may represent the sea god Poseidon, dring his chariot drawn by sea
horses.
[See bottom of citation below].
Auriga is adjacent to to the constellation TAURUS. Taurus Meaning
"Bull".
Bull in Aramaic is TORA (confer Chad Gadia - "ve'ata Tora ve'shata
d'maya" --
there came the BULL and drank the WATER). Bull in Hebrew is
(rare) Tor. More common is Shor.
At any rate, the same coding space packs in all this stuff:
URI, ROTEM, AUR (Light, UR-City, Gold), Golden Age; two constellations:
Auriga & Taurus;
two birds: Dove & Hawk; indirect references to chariots (via Auriga
[AUR] and the
Chariot of Poseidon); there is more in there... but that's plenty for
now. =jdi=
PS Have we had visitors from Auriga and/or Taurus?
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Auriga
[Pic]
Abbreviation:
Aur
English name:
Charioteer
Coordinates
see Stellar data
Particulars:
Spectroscopical binaries alpha Aur, beta Aur
Eclipsing binaries epsilon Aur (period: 27 years), zeta Aur (period: 2 2/3
years)
Double stars theta Aur, omega Aur
Planetary nebula NGC(*) 2149
Diffuse nebulae I 405, I 410
Star clusters M 36, M 37, M 38 , NGC 2281, NGC 1907, NGC 1664
Meteor Showers: Aurigids, Alpha Aurigids, Delta Aurigids, Zeta Aurigids
General:
A quite large constellation of the northern hemisphere, located between
DECL=55 degrees and DECL=28 degrees, RA=7h 30m and RA=4h 40m. There is no
star gamma Aur. The reason for this is that the star, which would be
listed as gamma Aur is shared with the constellation Taurus (its lying
exactly on the boundary) and is listed as beta Tau.
As the Milky Way runs through this constellation it is quite a pleasure to
view this part of the sky.
Stars and other objects
The yellow giant alpha Aur, called Capella, is the 6th brightest star in
the sky (0.08 mag). It is also a spectroscopic binary consisting of a
G5III and a G0III. They revolve each other every 104 days.
Menkalinen, beta Aur, is also a spectroscopic binary. Within just four
days the stars complete their revolution much faster than those of alpha
Aur. Since they are eclipsing each other the brightness of beta Aur seems
to vary.
The eclipsing binary epsilon Aur has an extradinary long period; every
27.1 years the brightness varies from 3.0 mag down to 3.8 mag as the
brighter component is then eclipsed by the darker companion. This eclipse
lasts a full year (the last eclipse took place in 1983). Caculations show
that the dark component of epsilon Aur has about 10 -12 solar masses.
Because of its small size it is a good candidate for a black hole;
unfortunately this conflicts with the observed lost of brightness during
the eclipse. According to studies of Wilson and Cameron the solution is a
ring of obsuring material which surrounds the black hole. (There is still
doubt that the companion is a black hole; a star which a 10 times smaller
brightness would fit the model, too.)
Another eclipsing binary is zeta Aur; a K4 bright giant and a B8 main
sequence star revolve each other every 2 2/3 years.
The double omega Aur can be viewed with small telescopes; it consists of a
5th mag and a 8th mag companion.
Telescopes with an aperture of at least 100mm and a high magnification are
required to split the tight double theta Aur. An A0psi star of 2.62 mag is
accompanied by a star of 7th mag.
The planetary nebula NGC(*) 2149 (the asterix indicates that this object
can be found in the NGC supplementary catalogs of J.L.E. Dreyer) appears
as a small oval ring of 10th mag.
The diffuse nebula I 405 is also called Flaming Star.
I 410 consists of a cluster with an nebulosity attached.
There a several open clusters in this constellations.
About 60 members belong to M36. Its a good object for the use of
binoculars. A beautiful group of stars is M38 showing an oval shape. The
richest of these three Messier objects is M37. It contains about 150 stars
with magnitudes of 12.5 and brighter and about 500 in total. Detailed
information about all three Messier objects can be found in the Messier
database.
The meteor shower of the Aurigids is generally observable between January,
31st, and February, 23rd. This shower is known for its bright fireballs.
From August, 25th, till September 6th, the shower of the Alpha Aurigids is
active. Although the annual maximum is about 9 meteors, outbursts of up to
30 were observed in 1935 and 1986.
The Delta Aurigids may be observed between September 22nd and Ovctober
23rd. The maximum of this shower occurs around October 6th to October
15th.
Please refer to Gary Kronk's database about meteor showers for details
about all four showers.
Mythological Background:
Auriga may represent the sea god Poseidon, dring his chariot drawn by sea
horses.
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From: "Joel Isaacson"
To: Sarfatti@pacbell.net
CC: deborah2004@earthlink.net
Subject: ALERT: More about RUT & DOVE/HAWK
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:32:45 -0400
ALERT: I overlooked the obvious: in these cryptic environments entities
are always associated with their OPPOSITES!
DOVE <=> HAWK
You've got your BIRD, Jacob!!! =jdi=
From: "Joel Isaacson"
To: Sarfatti@pacbell.net
CC: deborah2004@earthlink.net
Subject: More about RUT
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:11:08 -0400
Jacob,
In re "Rut" below, there is more. Rut (Ruth) was great-grandma of King
David,
and may deserve a big showing in that diagram... and she also happens
to mingle
with Uri & Rotem...
Now, reversing "RUT" we have "TOR" in there. TOR has at leat two
meanings:
(1) Era or age; as in "Tor Ha'Zahav" -- Golden Age [in Spain]. Tor
Ha'Zahav
is a very specific phrase used in regard to Jewish intellectual flourish
in Spain.
Therefore, "Tor" could be a reference to that.
(2) Dove; symbol of peace and restoration, especially after turmoil
--
see Noah and the Flood... AND... the DOVE being a bird, well,
you are interested in "Conference of the Birds" -- let the Tor be
a delegate...
=jdi=
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SPECIAL MESSAGE FOR URI GELLER ====>>>
=====================================
Uri, im ata kore' et zeh, kal me'od lir'ot et ha'tzofan. Titrakez
b'shura
03:
.......................................>O<=>O<
Tachniss otioit ivriot:..........AMRVAMR
A - Aleph
M - Mem sofit (aval gumm Yud, le'fee Atbash)
V - Vav
R - Reish
Bamercaz, <=> zeh RVA; mee'yamin le'small: OAR (Light) ve'gumm
Ur.
Yachad im ha'mem mee'small zeh MRVA. Ha'mem (le'fee Atbash) hoo Yud
===>>
Le'feechach: ha'shem shelcha b'shlaymuto!
TARGEEL: Metza et ha'shem "ROTEM" be'otah ha'shura.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
For Devorah,
....................:..........AMRVAMR
Uri shows up here: *MRVA** , after Atbash replacement of M by I
(Yud):
..................................IRVA read right-to-left!
(Aleph-Vav-Reish-Yud)
Now, back to............AMRVAMR
Rotem is here............**RVAM* , after Atbash replacement of A by T:
..................................RVTM read left-to-right!
(Reish-Vav-Tav-Mem)
CAN YOU SEE THIS? CAN YOU SEE THE OVERLAP BETWEEN "RV" PORTIONS
OF BOTH URI AND ROTEM? These guys are entangled, while moving
in opposite directions!!! -- Joel
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:48:09 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
Serafino Cerulli-Irelli, your homepage is not working anymore.
What happened?
Did you know that Irelli means "one with a big hand" in Turkish.
In Turkish you can say with one word where you need several words in
other languages.
Now, your name Turkish name Irelli rhymes to Fulcanelli.
Or was it originally Urelli or maybe Turelli?:-)
Today, I got a forward from Doc Savage with a message from
Terry "Goldratio". Just got in mind this funny word. Maybe worth
looking in google again. Goldratio in google gives 233 hits and the
second one on AI. Forget the first hit. It's Chinese. So AI is first?
The Awakening-Editing-AI
... before that. [GoldRatio]. build = 0.30 ; % of resources will go
toward building and upgrading settlements and other stand-alone
structures(float). ...
http://www.strategyplanet.com/kohan/kis/editing/ai_editing.htm
But I don't like the idea of AI. Do you care?
Anyway, now back to Terry "Goldratio".:-)
He was talking about Fulcanelli. This is a nice reminder for me to
read the book I ordered in 1996 but have never read one single page:
Fulcanelli Master Alchemist - Le Mystere des Cathedrales - Esoteric
Interpretation of the Hermetic Symbols of The Great Work -
Translated from the French by Mary Sworder published by Brotherhood
of Life, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1990.
Hope she made it good. Probably better to get a French copy.
Now here is an excerpt from Terry's message asking questions about
the universal language:
"CONFERENCE OF THE BIRDS":
SEE: http://www.sangraal.com/library/gsa11.html
The 13th century Sufi masterpiece, the Conference of the Birds, by
Fariduddin Attar the Chemist, uses this device with great effect.
...
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/afrm0200.html
Subject: A0158 The Language of the Birds
The director Peter ****Brook spent a number of years working on a
play called, "The Conference of the Birds". The play was built off
of a poem by the sufi poet Attar (The conference of the Birds).
The work of the play consisted of a breaking down of language
to arrive at a more direct communication between the audience and
the performers. A search to find a commonness in all languages. From
what I understand, they put work into finding links between tones
and sounds that come from the voice and the intuitive messages that
are communicated. (Phonetic cabala?)
I don't know if Attar and ****Brooks' "Conference of the Birds" has
any relation to Fucanelli's "Language of the birds" but there could
be a parallel there.
...
From: Marcella Gillick
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:16:22 +0000
I apologise in advance if I am wasting the forum's time with this
post - I have a feeling it may be relevant, but am not at all sure.
In response to: A0190 The Language of the Birds
From: calhhh
......................
2) Fulcanelli also mentions another book by the same author called
"HISTORY OF THE BIRDS", where during the narration he makes some oak
trees speek in the universal language, making also an alusion to the
language of the druids ..
3) He also mentions that this Language, by means of the hermetic
qabalah, was quite known in Egypt, at least by the sacerdotal class,
and he cites the LEIDEN PAPYRUS : "I invoke thee, the most powerful
of gods, you that all have created; to You, born of yourself, whom
can see everything without being seen .. I invoke you by the name
that you possess in the LANGUAGE OF THE BIRDS, in that of the
hieroglyphs, in that of the Jews, in that of the Egyptians, in that
of the cinocephalus..., in that of the hawks, in the hieratic
(sacerdotal) language."
4) He goes further to mention that even the INCAS of Peru until the
Spanish conquest spoke a general (universal) language and a cortesan
(diplomatic) language, since this latest one, reserved only to a
few, had a double and profound meaning.
---
--- In SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, "scerir"
Joel made the link to Ur. Why not?
There is, also, the Ur-theory, by Carl
Friedrich Freiherr von Weizsaecker
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9611048
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0309183
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0212084
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:52:35 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
Huh, then let me also add the first part of Terry Arbegust's
message:-)
The Origin of the Aviary?
The 13th century Sufi masterpiece, the Conference of the Birds, by
Attar the Chemist, uses this device with great effect.
WHICH IS FOUND IN THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH:
The true leaders of the Crusade were co-existing just fine with the
Sephardic Jews of France and Spain.
The school of Troyes played a major role in this climate of
acceptance. The Jews of Troyes were not persecuted, but accepted as
good vassals of the Count. Their teachings, based primarily around
the Bahir, emphasized the Merkabah, the cubic throne or vehicle by
which one ascends toward The Light on the Gnostic journey or path of
return. This, by a simple phonetic transposition common to the more
Arabic flavor of Sephardic Hebrew, becomes a multi-lingual pun. The
vehicle is the Mer-Kaaba, or stone of the sea mentioned in the
Bahir, as well as the Mer-Caballus, or the sea horse of Merovingian
fame. We find this kind of multi-lingual punning most often in the
Arabic literature of Iran and Persia, where many languages mingled
with classical Arabic. The 13th century Sufi masterpiece, the
Conference of the Birds, by Attar the Chemist, uses this device with
great effect.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:11:41 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
fulcanelli "UrMensch" in google:
1 item only. A dissertation in philosophy from Germany.
http://www.ub.uni-koeln.de/ediss/archiv/2001/11w1136.pdf
REBECCA HORNS ZWITTERMASCHINEN
Studien zur androgynen Ikonographie
vorgelegt von
Katrin Fröhlich
aus Köln
Köln, den 10.01.2001
What is Androgyne?? Zwittermaschinen?? Zwitter means hermaphrodite
in biological sense or hybrid in technical sense.
Hybrid Machines?? Is Katrin talking about AI?? No, obviously not.
But in her dissertation she also uses the phrase "Die hybriden
Maschinen der Rebecca Horn".
Urmensch as Androgyne?? What having both..?:-)
Like 66 having 45 and 15 connected by 6??
Look, look, Katrin writes that this thought is especially important
in Alchemy.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:14:11 -0400
From: "Joel Isaacson"
Subject: RE: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
Following may be good for the birds...
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/dan.html
In "Dictionary of the Khazars" Milorad Pavic has an early scene
where a contemporary Israeli woman professor of linguistic comes upon
a parrot in Istanbul which (yes!) speaks the ancient (now
extinct) language of the Khazars. In turns out that
a Khazari princess had schooled her pet parrot with that language,
then purposely released it to the wild... That Ur-parrot
taught that language to its offspring, and that 'tradition'
was carried on by parrots to this day...
Berkant may be able to tell us much more about the Khazars,
a people of Asia Minor who had converted to Judaism
(with the involvement of Yehuda Ha'Levi of Spain...)
=jdi=
From: "Berkant"
Reply-To: SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com
To: SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Starfleet Command] The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:48:09 -0000
Serafino Cerulli-Irelli, your homepage is not working anymore.
What happened?
Did you know that Irelli means "one with a big hand" in Turkish.
In Turkish you can say with one word where you need several words in
other languages.
Now, your name Turkish name Irelli rhymes to Fulcanelli.
Or was it originally Urelli or maybe Turelli?:-)
Today, I got a forward from Doc Savage with a message from
Terry "Goldratio". Just got in mind this funny word. Maybe worth
looking in google again. Goldratio in google gives 233 hits and the
second one on AI. Forget the first hit. It's Chinese. So AI is first?
The Awakening-Editing-AI
... before that. [GoldRatio]. build = 0.30 ; % of resources will go
toward building and upgrading settlements and other stand-alone
structures(float). ...
http://www.strategyplanet.com/kohan/kis/editing/ai_editing.htm
But I don't like the idea of AI. Do you care?
Anyway, now back to Terry "Goldratio".:-)
He was talking about Fulcanelli. This is a nice reminder for me to
read the book I ordered in 1996 but have never read one single page:
Fulcanelli Master Alchemist - Le Mystere des Cathedrales - Esoteric
Interpretation of the Hermetic Symbols of The Great Work -
Translated from the French by Mary Sworder published by Brotherhood
of Life, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1990.
Hope she made it good. Probably better to get a French copy.
Now here is an excerpt from Terry's message asking questions about
the universal language:
"CONFERENCE OF THE BIRDS":
SEE: http://www.sangraal.com/library/gsa11.html
The 13th century Sufi masterpiece, the Conference of the Birds, by
Fariduddin Attar the Chemist, uses this device with great effect.
...
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/afrm0200.html
Subject: A0158 The Language of the Birds
The director Peter ****Brook spent a number of years working on a
play called, "The Conference of the Birds". The play was built off
of a poem by the sufi poet Attar (The conference of the Birds).
The work of the play consisted of a breaking down of language
to arrive at a more direct communication between the audience and
the performers. A search to find a commonness in all languages. From
what I understand, they put work into finding links between tones
and sounds that come from the voice and the intuitive messages that
are communicated. (Phonetic cabala?)
I don't know if Attar and ****Brooks' "Conference of the Birds" has
any relation to Fucanelli's "Language of the birds" but there could
be a parallel there.
...
From: Marcella Gillick
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:16:22 +0000
I apologise in advance if I am wasting the forum's time with this
post - I have a feeling it may be relevant, but am not at all sure.
In response to: A0190 The Language of the Birds
From: calhhh
......................
2) Fulcanelli also mentions another book by the same author called
"HISTORY OF THE BIRDS", where during the narration he makes some oak
trees speek in the universal language, making also an alusion to the
language of the druids ..
3) He also mentions that this Language, by means of the hermetic
qabalah, was quite known in Egypt, at least by the sacerdotal class,
and he cites the LEIDEN PAPYRUS : "I invoke thee, the most powerful
of gods, you that all have created; to You, born of yourself, whom
can see everything without being seen .. I invoke you by the name
that you possess in the LANGUAGE OF THE BIRDS, in that of the
hieroglyphs, in that of the Jews, in that of the Egyptians, in that
of the cinocephalus..., in that of the hawks, in the hieratic
(sacerdotal) language."
4) He goes further to mention that even the INCAS of Peru until the
Spanish conquest spoke a general (universal) language and a cortesan
(diplomatic) language, since this latest one, reserved only to a
few, had a double and profound meaning.
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--- In SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, "scerir"
Joel made the link to Ur. Why not?
There is, also, the Ur-theory, by Carl
Friedrich Freiherr von Weizsaecker
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9611048
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0309183
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0212084
http://www.1st-books.com
Now Authorhouse.com
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:20:57 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
If you like, you can start with
A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine
http://www.khazaria.com/
Berkant
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:31:15 -0400
From: "Joel Isaacson"
Subject: RE: Re: FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
From: "Berkant"
Reply-To: SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com
To: SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Starfleet Command] Re: FW: The TORah-AURah Hypothesis
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:52:35 -0000
Huh, then let me also add the first part of Terry Arbegust's
message:-)
The Origin of the Aviary?
The 13th century Sufi masterpiece, the Conference of the Birds, by
Attar the Chemist, uses this device with great effect.
WHICH IS FOUND IN THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH:
The true leaders of the Crusade were co-existing just fine with the
Sephardic Jews of France and Spain.
The school of Troyes played a major role in this climate of
acceptance. The Jews of Troyes were not persecuted, but accepted as
good vassals of the Count. Their teachings, based primarily around
the Bahir, emphasized the Merkabah, the cubic throne or vehicle by
which one ascends toward The Light on the Gnostic journey or path of
return. This, by a simple phonetic transposition common to the more
Arabic flavor of Sephardic Hebrew, becomes a multi-lingual pun. The
vehicle is the Mer-Kaaba, or stone of the sea mentioned in the
Bahir, as well as the Mer-Caballus, or the sea horse of Merovingian
fame. We find this kind of multi-lingual punning most often in the
Arabic literature of Iran and Persia, where many languages mingled
with classical Arabic. The 13th century Sufi masterpiece, the
Conference of the Birds, by Attar the Chemist, uses this device with
great effect.
Yes, I understand the above paragraph, the mulitinguistic (playful)
punning, especially in classical Arabic. (I am fluent in Sephardic
Hebrew, and know some classical Arabic...). Recall that
The Tower of Babel (a ziggurat structure) had been abandoned
because the "mixing up" of languages... the object is
to get as close as we possibly can to pre-Towerist times,
dominated by the Taurusist-Aurigean ideogramic/steganogramic language...
the language of the flying aviaries on that chariot/merkavah...
In effect, to undo that "mix-up"... =jdi=
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:33:44 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Re: Undaunted Genius Solomon Lefschetz
Many famous Jewish scientists like Solomon Lefschetz were of Khazar
origin. And some even are not aware of their Urigin.:-)
And again a Divine Comedy that many famous came from Hungary or
Magyary.
BTW, this guy Lefschetz was involved with Martin Marietta's Gravity
Research Programme and was a friend of Trimble mentioned in Nick
Cook's book. Jack likes to quote Trimble. And it was again Trimble
who was in touch with the mentioned German scientists.
--- In SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, "Berkant"
Let's look in google for this undaunted genius who passed away
when
I was just three months in my mother's womb.:-)
http://www-gap.dcs.st-
and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Lefschetz.html
Solomon Lefschetz
Born: 3 Sept 1884 in Moscow, Russia
Died: 5 Oct 1972 in Princeton, New Jersey, USA
Solomon Lefschetz was a Russian born, Jewish mathematician who was
the main source of the algebraic aspects of topology. His father
Alexander Lefschetz and his mother Vera were both Turkish citizens
but since Alexander Lefschetz worked as an importer he was
required
to travel a great deal. As a consequence the family decided to
make
a base for themselves in France where their children could be
educated. Shortly after Solomon was born his family set up home in
Paris.
Since Lefschetz was educated in France from a young age, French
was
his first language. He trained to be an engineer at the École
Centrale in Paris from 1902 to 1905 and there attended lectures by
Emile Picard and Paul Appell. However, not being a French citizen
he
would have found great difficulty obtaining an academic post in
France. Fully understanding this, in November 1905 at the age of
21,
Lefschetz went to the United States. For a few months he worked at
the Baldwin Locomotive works, then from 1907 to 1910 he worked for
Westinghouse Electric Company in Pittsburgh. He had the misfortune
to lose both his hands in a laboratory accident in November 1907
when they were burnt off in a transformer explosion. He also lost
his forearms and spent a while in hospital.
---
"Solomon Lefschetz" gravity in google: 66 results
Item 5:
Solomon Islands/Geography - encyclopedia article about
Solomon ... -
... In physical geography, erosion is the displacement of solids
(earth, mud, rock, and so forth) by the agent of wind or water, or
movement in response to gravity ...
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ Solomon%
20Islands/Geography
This is funny. Solomon Islands are often mentioned in context with
ufos, flying triangles, giants and dwarfs etc. Some even have
descriptions close to the sufi tales about Gog and Magog.
Anyway, this is not what I really looked for now.:-)
But I should bookmark this link. Hmmm, a Solomon Islands Guide for
$10.39. Maybe Jack will need one soon..
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Item 6:
1991.12.23 / Mark North / Re: What about palladium affinity for
H. ... ... celestial mechanics under Aurel Wintner and Solomon
Lefschetz, Bass unfortunately ... lattice,
plasma-theoretical electromagnetic theory of gravity" (for
effects ...
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/physics/Cold-fusion/fd92
The name of Robert Bass seemed to ring a bell for me: he figured
in
the
Velikovsky controversy, which has become a classic in the history
of
doubtful or marginal or pseudo-science--see my book BEYOND
VELIKOVSKY: THE
HISTORY OF A PUBLIC CONTROVERSY, University of Illinois Press,
1986.
I got
in touch with Leroy Ellenberger, who is the most knowledgeable
person
about the continuing Velikovskian saga and related matters; and he
supplied the following for posting:
"Followers of the polemical assault by Robert W. Bass on Frank
Close's TOO
HOT TO HANDLE and the reaction to it may be interested to know
that
in the
1970s and early 1980s Bass applied his rhetorical skills to defend
Velikovsky's WORLDS IN COLLISION. Despite having studied celestial
mechanics under Aurel Wintner and Solomon Lefschetz, Bass
unfortunately
failed to appreciate the fact that the circular restricted three-
body
problem does not apply to the Sun-Jupiter-Venus and Sun-Earth-Mars
systems. Bass also fragrantly misrepresented sources: for example,
claiming incorrectly that the work of Hills and Ovenden supports a
Velikovskian time-scale of mere centuries for random planetary
orbits to
settle into a Bode's-Law type of resonant configuration.
Bass spoke at Velikovskian conferences in Hamilton, Ontario (1974),
Glasgow, Scotland (1978), and San Jose CA (1980). The contents of
these
addresses were published in four articles widely hailed by
Velikovsky's
supporters: 1) "Did Worlds Collide?" and 2) "'Proofs' of the
Stability of
the Solar System" in Pensee VIII (1974), 3) "Can Worlds Collide?"
in
Kronos I:3 (1975), and 4) "The Celestial Dynamics of 'Worlds in
Collision'" in SIS Review VI:1-3 (1982). "Proofs" was reprinted in
Kronos
II:2 (1976) and SIS Review III:1 (1978). For a copy of No.4, send
a
SASE
to the writer.
Bass drew upon the work of Siegel, Moser, Arnol'd, Giacaglia,
Danby,
and
Graff to argue that Newtonian dynamics does not exclude the orbital
changes implied by Velikovsky and that "wild motions" described by
Danby
are a key along with M. A. Cook's "sophisticated Madelung-force,
dynamic-
lattice, plasma-theoretical electromagnetic theory of gravity" (for
effects during collisions). A. E. Roy thought enough of Bass's
ideas
to
cite him in ORBITAL MOTION (1978). Bass also believes that all
systems of
radiometric dating have been refuted by Cook in PREHISTORY AND
EARTH
MODELS (1966).
Bass pays no attention to criticism, either. He continued to trade
on
"wild motions" after T. C. Flandern told him in a letter dated 22
May 1975
that they do not apply to the planets in the solar system and
ignored this
and other criticism by Ellenberger published in SIS Review VIIA
(1982/3),
Kronos X:1 (1984) and Kronos XI:1.
The current home address for Bass is 519 W. Gainsboro Road,
Thousand
Oaks,
CA 91360.
[submitted by] Leroy Ellenberger, formerly Senior Editor, Kronos;
3929A
Utah Street, St. Louis, MO 63116; phone (314) 772-4286"
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Dan mentioned Donald Menzel who also debunked Velikosky who was
later proved right with his assumption of sun's charge. That is at
least what I read. Have not checked. You can correct me. But maybe
it is time to order the book "World in Collision" which is the
most
favorite book of my spiritual master..
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http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Search/historysearch.cgi?
SUGGESTION=Whitehead&CONTEXT=1
As we mentioned Whitehead's interests turned more towards topology
near the end of his three years in Princeton when he collaborated
with Lefschetz in proving that all analytic manifolds can be
triangulated.
...
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/References/Lefschetz.html
---
http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~cwesterl/107/topics.html
Cherished myths are debunked along the way as Gian-Carlo Rota
takes
pleasure in portraying, warts and all, some of the great
scientific
personalities of the period-Stanislav Ulam (who together with
Edward
Teller, signed the patent application for the hydrogen bomb),
Solomon Lefschetz (Chairman in the 50s of the Princeton
mathematics
department), William Feller (one of the founders of modern
probability theory), Jack Schwartz (one of the founders of
computing
science), and many others.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:07:13 -0400
From: "Joel Isaacson"
Subject: ORigin: AURiga
"Origin" in Latin: Origo -- (orriri) rise ; such as in SUNRISE, the thing
that
gives "OR" (Light), a Beginning (of the day).
I submit (as a hypothesis) that our ultimate Ur is in AURIGA,
the constellation of the Chariot, which is confederated with
the constellation of Taurus. Auriga-Taurus chariots had visited
Mesopotamian Ur and its environs a number of times and echoes of
those events are reverberating in Mesopotamian artifacts, as well as
Hebrew (and other) sacred writings. =jdi=
PS The URI/ROTEM thing relates to this saga.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:07:23 -0000
From: "Berkant"
Subject: Ashkenazim and Khazars
When talking about Ur. My Kurdish wife comes from Ur (today Urfa)
where Prophet Abraham (peace be unto him) lived. What was the
meaning of Ur again???
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html
Like the other Jewish communities in the study, the Ashkenazic
community of Northern and Central Europe, from which most American
Jews are descended, shows less diversity than expected in its
mitochondrial DNA, perhaps reflecting the maternal definition of
Jewishness. But unlike the other Jewish populations, it does not
show signs of having had very few female founders. It is possible,
Dr. Goldstein said, that the Ashkenazic community is a mosaic of
separate populations formed the same way as the others.... 'The
authors are correct in saying the historical origins of most Jewish
communities are unknown,' Dr. [Shaye] Cohen [of Harvard University]
said. 'Not only the little ones like in India, but even the
mainstream Ashkenazic culture from which most American Jews
descend.'....
Excerpts:
"The most-frequent haplotype in all three Jewish groups (the CMH
[haplotype 159 in the Appendix]) segregated on a Eu 10 background,
together with the three modal haplotypes in Palestinians and Bedouin
(haplotypes 144, 151, and 166). The dominant haplotype of the Muslim
Kurds (haplotype 114) was only one microsatellite-mutation step
apart from the CMH and the modal haplotype of the Bedouin, but it
belonged to haplogroup Eu 9. .... Previous studies of Y chromosome
polymorphisms reported a small European contribution to the
Ashkenazi paternal gene pool (Santachiara-Benerecetti et al. 1993;
Hammer et al. 2000). In our sample, this low-level gene flow may be
reflected in the Eu 19 chromosomes, which are found at elevated
frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews and which are very frequent in
Eastern Europeans (54%-60%) (Semino et al. 2000). Alternatively, it
is attractive to hypothesize that Ashkenazim with Eu 19 chromosomes
represent descendants of the Khazars, originally a Turkic tribe from
Central Asia, who settled in southern Russia and eastern Ukraine and
converted en masse to Judaism in the ninth century of the present
era, as described by Yehuda Ha-Levi in 1140 A.D. (Dunlop 1954)."
...
Judy Siegel. "Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe."
Jerusalem Post (November 20, 2001). Excerpts:
"Despite being separated for over 1,000 years, Sephardi Jews of
North African origin are genetically indistinguishable from their
brethren from Iraq, according to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
They also proved that Sephardi Jews are very close genetically to
the Jews of Kurdistan, and only slight differences exist between
these two groups and Ashkenazi Jews from Europe. These conclusions
are reached in an article published recently in the American Journal
of Human Genetics and written by Prof. Ariella Oppenheim of the
Hebrew University (HU) and Hadassah-University Hospital in Ein
Kerem. Others involved are German doctoral student Almut Nebel, Dr.
Marina Faerman of HU, Dr. Dvora Filon of Hadassah-University
Hospital, and other colleagues from Germany and India. The
researchers conducted blood tests of Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Kurdish
Jews and examined their Y chromosomes, which are carried only by
males. They then compared them with those of various Arab groups -
Palestinians, Beduins, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese - as well as
to non-Arab populations from Transcaucasia - Turks, Armenians and
Moslem Kurds. The study is based on 526 Y chromosomes typed by the
Israeli team and additional data on 1,321 individuals from 12
populations... Surprisingly, the study shows a closer genetic
affinity by Jews to the non-Jewish, non-Arab populations in the
northern part of the Middle East than to Arabs."
...
The Jewish World: This Week in Israel." Global Jewish Agenda (Jewish
Agency for Israel, November 22, 2001). Excerpts:
"A new study by the Hebrew University in Jerusalem reveals: the
Kurds are the people closest to the Jews genetically. Scientists who
carried out the study, including Prof. Ariella Friedman [sic:
Oppenheim] and Dr. Marina Fireman [sic: Faerman], say that according
to the findings, the Jews and the Kurds share common ancient
forefathers, who lived in the northern part of the Fertile Crescent
(a part of contemporary Iraq and Syria). Some moved southward in pre-
historic times and settled along the eastern seaboard of the
Mediterranean. The researchers say that they were surprised to find
that the Jews were closer genetically to the Kurds (and to the
Turks) than to their Arab neighbors. The findings of the study,
which for the first time included a comparison between DNA samples
from Jews and DNA samples from Muslim Kurds, also surprised
historians such as Prof. Bezalel Bar-Kochba of Tel-Aviv University
and Dr. Gunner Lehman of Ben-Gurion University in the Negev, who
said: "`It is difficult to explain the findings within the context
of the knowledge we have about material and historic culture.'"
...
Nadine Epstein. "Family Matters: Funny, We Don't Look Jewish."
Hadassah Magazine 82:5 (January 2001). Excerpts:
"...As the fair-haired, blue-eyed daughter of a woman who looks more
Nordic than Jewish, I always wondered if I was really Semitic. My
siblings and I didn't look much like most other Jews - Ashkenazic or
Sefardic... As a child, I blamed our looks on Cossack rapes. When I
read Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe, I bought his theory
that Ashkenazim were descended from the Khazars, a Caucasian people
who had converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages. The search for
genetic knowledge strikes a deep chord among Jews. Last year,
through my local genealogy society, I met Dr. Harry Ostrer, head of
the Human Genetics Program at the New York University School of
Medicine... The study of evolutionary and genetic history through
DNA analysis is transforming what we know about ourselves... In
1997, Karl Skorecki in Haifa, Michael Hammer in Tucson and several
London researchers surprised everyone by finding evidence of the
Jewish priestly line of males, the Kohanim. Half of Ashkenazic men
and slightly more than half of Sefardic men who claimed to be
Kohanim were found to have a distinctive set of genetic markers on
their Y chromosome, making it highly possible that they are
descendants of a single male or group of related males who lived
between 1180 and 650 B.C.E., about the time of Moses and Aaron. The
Kohen marker is but a fragment of the information gleaned from DNA
analysis... A study published last year in the Proceedings of the
National Academy of Science looked at the Y chromosomes of 1,371
males from seven Jewish population groups and came up with a profile
of Jewish genes. They found 13 major Y-chromosome patterns or
signatures, called haplotypes. 'The haplotypes of all but Ethiopian
Jews shared a similar pattern,' says Ostrer, a member of the study
team led by Hammer and Batsheva Bonne-Tamir of Tel-Aviv
University. 'This means we are not descended from one person or 12
tribes but 13 founder males.' The same 13 haplotypes, by the way,
are common among Middle Eastern Arabs including Palestinians and
Syrians. They also show up in Greeks and other ancient Mediterranean
lines, who may date from the time before Jews emerged as a
people... 'We are definitely Jews,' says Ostrer. 'We share Jewish
haplotype patterns.' Ostrer estimates the European admixture over 80
generations is an extremely low 0.5 percent. The study also found
that male Jews of Russian and Polish ancestry do not have a
chromosome profile similar to Russian and Polish non-Jews.
Haplotypes have also helped the identity seekers to retrace the path
of the wandering Ashkenazic Jew. We who hail from East Europe most
likely migrated there from Alsace and Rhineland, says Ostrer, as
confirmed by Yiddish, a form of low German. Based on his study of
Roman Jews, Ostrer concludes that Ashkenazim lived in Italy for a
thousand years before they migrated into Alsace and
Rhineland. 'There's no genetic difference between Ashkenazic and
Roman Jews, who say they have lived in Italy for 2,000 years,' he
observes. Ostrer and Hammer are now conducting the largest study of
Jewish genetics so far, trying to determine how we are all related,
and tracing the migrations that formed communities during the 2,000
years of diaspora... 'Being Jewish is a spiritual, metaphysical
state and DNA is a physical characteristic, like nose size,' said
Skorecki in an interview in The Jerusalem Report. 'But we wouldn't
dare go around saying we're going to determine who is Jewish by the
length of their nose. Similarly we're not going to determine who is
Jewish by the sequence of their DNA.'... And so for me, the
positives of Y-chromosome analysis far outweigh the possible
negatives. We are an ancient group of clans descended from 13
polygamous men, and our genetic history is part of the redefinition
of humanity... 'Blonde genes occur in Middle Eastern groups as
well,' he [Ostrer] explains. 'There is no evidence that white skin
and blue eyes originated in northern Europe. That is a Nordic myth.
Semitic people had the whole range.'... Researchers have only begun
to study the mitochondria of Jewish women... Mitochondria will
likely reveal different data: Women were more likely than men to
relocate and convert due to marriage... My father and brother are
descendants of the clan known as Haplotype Four, the second largest
group of Ashkenazim, and common among Middle Eastern and southern
European populations. My son is descended from a clan that is part
of Haplotype One, which has a Y-chromosome pattern common in central
and western Asian populations... 'These clans were formed a long
time ago,' says Ostrer. 'They all ended up in the Middle East and
landed in Ur where Abraham lived. He convinced some of them to adopt
[the God of Israel] and when they did, they brought their Y
chromosomes with them. Their next-door neighbors waited for Allah.
They brought their chromosomes with them, too.'"
--- In SarfattiScienceSeminars@yahoogroups.com, "Berkant"
If you like, you can start with
A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine
http://www.khazaria.com/
Berkant
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:22:16 -0000
From: "trixcleverspacealien"
Subject: Ur - Mensch - As Metric Engineer
[date and time posted on SSS: 08-24-04 at 06:17p.m.c.d.t.]
A question for Sufi Berkant.
In regards to the Djinn, how would you interpret the Orisha of the
Yoruba and Dogon,[west africa]
Example: Eshu Elegbara the Orisha that guards the Crossroads, where /
when the Physical world intersects with the Supernatural world?
For a moment lets imagine the 96% of the Universe 73% / 23% dark
energy / matter as supernatural, and / or virtual as an intellectual
excercise.
SEE: http://www.carnaval.com/sf00/trickster.htm
and: http://www.techgnosis.com/
http://www.lumen.org/issue_contents/contents19.html
[05:08p.m. 08-24-04]start to write.
In reply to Berkant's:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SarfattiScienceSeminars/message/6171
From: "Berkant"
Date: Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:52 pm
Subject: All-Mensch or Ur-Mensch and Life in Cycles
Joel made the link to Ur. Why not?
In German, we also say Ur-Mensch (Prototype Man or Universal Man).
What does it mean?
An ape man from Tony's Voodoo Africa?? Or simply Adam??
ETC:
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NEXT: t.c.s.a writes:
Replace the sentence found in the paragraph below : Out of these
struggles the world of matter and humans came into existence.
With this edited sentence: Out of Per Ardua Ad Astra, through
Struggles to the Stars the SuperCosmos
was Metric Engineered by the Ur - Mensch, and the universe and / or
multiverse of matter and humans came into existence.
http://pages.ca.inter.net/~oblio/supp08.htm
And what of the broader Hellenistic world? What connection did such a
glorified Adam in Jewish tradition have with what seems to have been
a more widespread myth of a Primal Man (which scholars usually refer
to by the German term "Ur-mensch")? This Primal Man used to
be
thought of as deriving from ancient Iranian and Babylonian mythology.
He was a heavenly being, a first-born, who existed with God from the
beginning, sometimes as a king of paradise. He was involved in
struggles in the heavenly realms with forces of evil and chaos. Out
of these struggles the world of matter and humans came into
existence. In some versions, humanity even contains fallen portions
of this Primal Man. Eventually he becomes a Redeemer who descends to
earth, reveals God to humans and the fact that they possess divine
elements within themselves; finally, he shows them how to ascend to
heaven and regain their original divine home.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Deja Veu: Perhaps this Acausal Looping explains "Synchronicity"?
ALSO SPECULATION: Around and Around we go, where we stop we all know:
Earth ;-)
Could this UR-Mensch possibly be the Oe "Back From the Future" in
Jack Sarfatti's Superluminal Universe?
Oe came from outer space, landed in the Euphrates river then Oe
pushed Oe's "EGG shaped" craft saucer time machine, in this case
[almost spherical needed for a Sarfattian Flying Saucer?] to shore
and taught humans geomtry, math, and philosphy thereby completing an
Acausal [physics definition of Acausal] loop in time.
History repeats itself?: Iraq, the Garden of Eden?
If so will we "get it right" this time around?
http://www.qedcorp.com/book/
Jack Sarfatti's Book / Table of Contents / Back From The Future / ET
and Me 1953 /
"Remember when you were young?" / Space-Time and Beyond ETC:
SEE:
Robert Temple's, "The Sirius Mystery" page 266
PRESERVED BY PHOTIUS, (c. A.D. 820-c. 893]
PRESERVED IN THE FORM OF A SUMMARY (Codex 279)
ALSO SEE:
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/afrm0200.html
[t.c.s.a. comment: Conference Of The Birds=: The Language Of the
Birds.]
Subject: A0192 The Language of the Birds
From: Leonid M. Kokun
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:15:57 +0300
From: Russ House
... In Hebrew, Ur, the root of Uranus, means
light; also fortress or castle...
The etymology of the Greek "Ouranos" is presumably Indo-European, and
it corresponds with the Sanscrit " varun.a" ("fish"; through "n." I
try to reflect the Sanscrit orthography); Varuna's function was "the
Lord of
waters" in the sense of "the Lord of the (primordial) ocean", and his
counterpart in the Greek mythology is Poseidon. Then, the connection
of Ouranos
with light is a secondary or tertiary phenomenon.
Leo Kokun
NOTE: t.c.s.a. comment: Does the above: "the etymology of the
Greek "Ouranos" is presumably
Indo-European, and it corresponds with the Sanscrit " varun.a"
("fish";
through "n." I
try to reflect the Sanscrit orthography); Varuna's function was "the
Lord of
waters,,,etc.
connect historically, that is, are Ouranos and Varun.a referring to
Oe? is it the same story, or conversely is Oe referring to Ouranos
and Varun.a?
Robert Temple's, "The Sirius Mystery" page 266
PRESERVED BY PHOTIUS, (c. A.D. 820-c. 893]
PRESERVED IN THE FORM OF A SUMMARY (Codex 279)
(Helladius) recounts the story of a man named Oe who came out of the
Red Sea
having a fish-like body
but the head, feet and arms of a man, and who taught astronomy and
letters.
Some accounts say that he came out of a great egg whence his name,
and that
he was acttually a man, but only seemed a fish because he was clothed
in
"the skin of a sea creature'. Helladius account is extremely
valuable, the
more so because it is confirmed by the extant pictorial
representations of
this wise being [called 'the egg-born'] who exited in a strange suit
from
some kind of a vessal - likened to an egg - that fell into the sea.
Hyginus,
Manilius and Xanthus all furnish other corroborating details,
speaking of
gods inhonor of whom the fish-form is sacred, who plunged form the
sky into
the waters of the Euphrates. In another
varian [found in the commentary in Germanicus edition of Aratus] the
power
of the holy fish pushed ashore on the banks of the Euphartes near
Babylon,
the "egg" out of which the "deity" appeared. Before it landed in the
waters,
the egg-like vessel was of a luminous appearance. Thus the hitroian
Sozomen
tells us that the same type of deity desended into the Euphrates
as "a fiery
star" from the sky...[t.c.s.a. alien comment: "a fiery star
space>"] Just as these visitants capsules in the water were
remembered as
'eggs' from which higher men in fish-garb emerged, so the capsules
when they
were in the sky were metaphorically described as great fiery BIRDS or
griffons...or, again, as winged figures or deific men flying in a
winged
ring or capsule..."SPACE VISITORS" we would call them today. end page
266.
I find this interesting in regards that Robert Temple's knowledge of
the
Dogan and the Sirius contact came down to him through Arthur Young.
See
Cosmic Trigger Robert Anton Wilson: Saul Paul Sirag's Afterwords, and
of
course connects again to Jack Sarfatti, through the association to
Arthur
Young and Sirag via Esalen and the PCRG.
[t.c.s.a. caps and comment: Here we have the usage once again of the
word
'Visitors' referring to E.T.s.
I have researched the usage of the word 'Visitors' and found it first
occurring in Universal Studio's adaption of Ray Bradbury's book "It
came from outer space" movie with same name released in 1953, read: Uri
Geller and Jack Sarfatti's 1953 Contact experiences
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
,] and takes place in the sheriff's office wherein the hero an Astronomer recieves a TELEPHONE
call from the E.T's who tell him they are in a CAVE [reminiscent of
Plato's cave? as archetype? 03:08p.m.] and have abducted his girl-friend lover
[also the first people they abducted were "telephone linemen" this occurs in
Arizona.] and he is to come there alone if he wants to see her.
The Alien cuts the communique, hangs up the telephone and the
Astronomer says to the sheriff,
"Now do you believe we have some "Visitors from outer space."
[03:09p.m.
08-24-04]
SO ... it is NOT Whitley Streiber who first used the term Visitors in
reference to E.T.
The reason I mention this is in regards Jack Sarfatti asking Dan
Smith why Dan refers to E.T. as Visitors? I think I have solved that?,note the
coincidental year:
1953.
Also in regards UR see:
http://www.theoi.com/Ouranos/Ouranos.html
Uranus:
OURANOS was the solid dome of the sky and one of the ancient element
gods called PROTOGENOI. He was the first ruler of the universe but was
castrated and deposed by his son Kronos.
THE END:
[06:15p.m.c.d.t. 08-24-04]
:trixcleverspacealien
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:30:10 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Metric Engineering 101 Problem Set 1
1.1 Do a comparative analysis of the CERN document
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search.py?recid=789638&ln=en
and the NIDS documents
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis.pdf
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis_ppt.pdf
Point out strengths and weaknesses in each.
1.2 What is wrong with Hal Puthoff's statement:
On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:38 PM, Puthoff@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 8/24/2004 4:44:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
sarfatti@pacbell.net writes:
Metric engineering is the control of the phase of the vacuum coherence.
Puthoff, Davis, Haisch, Vallee and all the Boys at NIDS, NASA BPP,
MITRE, BAE et-al have not the slightest inkling of what this is.
Wrong again. Proper control of K in the PV model IS control of vacuum
coherence, just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir plates IS
control of interference patterns by boundary conditions. You've never
gotten this, have you? (Others have.) Wake up and smell the chai!
You can continue to say the above as often as you like, but, unlike
Picard, it does not make it so! :-)
Hal
What does Hal mean by "K"?
In his simplest charge neutral SSS model
K = e^2GM/c^2r
Where does the "vacuum coherence" appear in Hal's formula?
What is Hal Puthoff's definition of "vacuum coherence"?
Hint: He has yet to publish one.
Assuming Hal comes up with a definition of "vacuum coherence" precise
enough to compare with his "K", are we talking about the same idea?
Where does the term "vacuum coherence" appear in any of Hal's papers?
Ditto for the recent paper by Vallee and Davis.
Where does the term "dark energy"appear in any of Hal's papers? Ditto
for the recent paper by Vallee and Davis.
Where and when does Hal discuss the relationships among "dark energy",
"K" and "vacuum coherence"?
Where does Hal give a practical procedure, in principle as a
gedankexperiment at least, for how to control K significantly and how
to make K < 1?
Jack Sarfatti's solution to problem 1.2 for the historical record.
For the record. Here is my ORIGINAL formula for the above problem using
Hal's PV model that is not found in any of his papers. For a uniform
exotic vacuum distribution of positive zero point pressure, i.e. a
uniform sphere of "dark matter" of radius r* like the Galactic Halo,
assuming Hal's wrong PV model, then
GM is replaced by -c^2/\zpfr*^3 neglecting small rational factors of pi
In the conventions used exotic vacuum /\zpf < 0 gravitates as "dark
matter" and /\zpf > 0 anti-gravitates as "dark energy".
Therefore, at least for r > r*
K = e^-2/\zpfr*^3/r
Note that K > 1 for /\zpf < 0, i.e. for gravitating "dark matter"
attractive phase of exotic vacuum.
K < 1 for /\zpf > 0, i.e. for anti-gravitating "dark energy" repulsive
phase of exotic vacuum.
Furthermore
/\zpf = (Quantum of Area)^-1[(Quantum of Volume)|Vacuum Coherence|^2 -
1]
Where "Vacuum Coherence" is a LOCAL complex scalar field that derives
primarily from a virtual electron-positron pair condensate whose phase
gives Einstein's metric field guv.
Where does Hal say anything like that or anything at all about the
subject?
On Aug 24, 2004, at 12:33 PM, art wagner wrote:
From: "Paulo Santos"
Reply-To: alcubierrewarpdrive2@yahoogroups.com
To: alcubierrewarpdrive2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alcubierre Warp Drive] NEW CERN review about warpdrive
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:00:21 -0000
For all of you who need to know more about FTL travel, I have posted
a review in CERN as an open document called Interstellar travel
through spacetime manipulation.
the site is
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search.py?recid=789638&ln=en
Fernando also helped revising the document, specially in the Manyfold
Universe theory part. The article is very easy to read even to non
experts. The article takes only a few minutes to read.
Paulo
On Aug 18, 2004, at 4:51 PM, lensman@stardrive.org wrote:
Jack, latest from Eric Davis and Valle at NIDS.
Begin forwarded message:
2 long articles worth reading from Jacques Valle and Eric Davis.
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis.pdf
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis_ppt.pdf
On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
Jack,
Evidently then, metric engineering is a form of (hopefully) controlled
eschatology. The end result need not be so far from what the
religionists have been talking about, when they talk about Rapture, Golden Gates,
Hieros Gamos, etc.
Should we doubt that if the EBEs were involved in our religious
events, that one purpose was to prepare us for this eventuality? Again, we need to
see if [deleted for national security reasons] or any others here have
further information.
You may argue that the spiritual overtones would complicate the
impending politics of metric engineering. They might, but, based on history,
these overtones will be unavoidable, and, on further thought, may well be
beneficial in helping to facilitate the inevitable. We have something
new, as well as something old.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:44 PM
To: Dan Smith
Subject: Re: Eschatology 101
On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
Jack,
Well, it would make life easier for all of us if the two possible
types of eschaton could be dealt with separately. But since both you
and I are
monists, it should come as no surprise to us, anyway, that there could
be a close relation between the mental and physical aspects of
eschatology.
A false distinction: "Mental" and "material" are limiting cases of
"physical". If you mean "moral" that is a different category. Then you
are talking
politics not science.
The fact that we cannot put reality asunder, as Descartes and every
modernist is wont to do, does make our present eschatological
predicament just that much more difficult.
The fact that this unadulterated eschatology may be more difficult to
sell to the Pentagon, does NOT make it any less real, or any less
problematic.
In fact, the 'mental' and 'physical' aspects of the Eschaton can and
probably will 'constructively' interfere so as to amplify small
effects into something earthshaking.
"Mental" = "BIT" (Wheeler) = "GIANT PILOT WAVE" (Sarfatti extending
Bohm) = "Thoughtlike" (Stapp)
"Material" = "IT"(wheeler) = "HIDDEN VARIABLE" (Bohm) = "Rocklike"
(Stapp)
Micro-quantum theory sans consciousness sans telepathy (signal
nonlocality) is ONE-WAY
"IT FROM BIT" (Wheeler)
i.e. matter emergent from unconscious mind
Macro-quantum theory of consciousness with paranormal RV and
psychotronic weaponry in the Eschatological ET Arsenal, i.e. "signal
nonlocality" (violating Hawking's new belief in "unitarity" at GR 17
Dublin) is TWO-WAY
IT FROM BIT + BIT FROM IT (Sarfatti)
i.e. No action without reaction.
That is the bad news. The good news is that we can use this same
amplifying power to steer the process into a 'reaction channel' that
is more
beneficial or less harmful to all concerned.
Werner Erhard's "est" connected with "Steersman".
Another way to grasp these concepts is to consider them from the point
of view of transportation 'technology'. Your favored mode of
transport
is via energic propulsion, while mine is via 'portal'.
A false distinction: Dark energy is used to create time travel portals.
Like walking through a door for instant teleportation to a different
place and time possibly even in a different universe. Very much like
the virtual digital reality in the "Matrix" films since reality is BIT
as well as IT and the latter is emergent from the former. My equations
show this precisely!
Current military hardware are like Edwin Abbott's 2D Flatlanders with
ET as 3D beings. This is only meant as analogy not literally.
However, if the emphasis is on metric engineering, that difference
would not be so great.
Indeed, it is non-existent. Of course Puthoff never gets to this
level. Vallee and Davis flirt with it.
In the former case, the propulsion effects could trigger a phase
shift in the vacuum
energy state which would be chain reactive. In the latter case the
portals themselves could become unstable in regard to size and number.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/ice9.wav
Metric engineering is the control of the phase of the vacuum coherence.
Puthoff, Davis, Haisch, Vallee and all the Boys at NIDS, NASA BPP,
MITRE, BAE et-al have not the slightest inkling of what this is. Like
[deleted for national security reasons] at DIA they simply stick their
heads in the sand and then
wonder why they are kicked in the @$$! :-)
This is just a very rough outline, pointing to similarities and
contrasts. I would suspect that some answers to these questions are
to be found in
[deleted for national security reasons]. It is too bad that Kit and
Hal have not been able
to facilitate our communication with [deleted for national security
reasons] in regards to these critical
matters.
Dan
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:44:03 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: Metric Engineering 101 Problem Set 1 Part II
PS Let me for the record explicitly address Hal's
Wrong again. Proper control of K in the PV model IS control of
vacuum coherence, just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir
plates IS control of interference patterns by boundary conditions.
You've never gotten this, have you? (Others have.) Wake up and
smell the chai!
There Hal goes again dragging in the dead cat of the QED Casimir force,
which has nothing to do with the direct gravity effect of zero point
energy. Hal seems to equate
"ZPE mode suppression" with "vacuum coherence".
This is not what I mean by "vacuum coherence".
First of all, Hal is only thinking of random virtual photons trapped
between two plates. I am thinking of a "More is different" local
complex order parameter from a vacuum condensate of virtual
electron-positron pairs.
How does Hal propose to get warp drives and wormholes from the tiny
Casimir force between two plates?
The direct gravity effect of zero point energy has nothing at all to do
with the Casimir force, nor do you need plates particularly. It has to
do with the Einstein field equation for the exotic vacuum that is
Guv + /\zpfguv = 0
In any case I challenge Hal to make some simple mathematical models of
what he means by
"just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir plates IS control of
interference patterns by boundary conditions"
And how that helps in the quest to metric engineer warp drives and
traversable wormhole time travel star gates?
On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
1.1 Do a comparative analysis of the CERN document
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search.py?recid=789638&ln=en
and the NIDS documents
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis.pdf
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis_ppt.pdf
Point out strengths and weaknesses in each.
1.2 What is wrong and or right with Hal Puthoff's statement:
On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:38 PM, Puthoff@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 8/24/2004 4:44:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
sarfatti@pacbell.net writes:
Metric engineering is the control of the phase of the vacuum
coherence.
Puthoff, Davis, Haisch, Vallee and all the Boys at NIDS, NASA BPP,
MITRE, BAE et-al have not the slightest inkling of what this is.
Wrong again. Proper control of K in the PV model IS control of
vacuum coherence, just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir
plates IS control of interference patterns by boundary conditions.
You've never gotten this, have you? (Others have.) Wake up and
smell the chai!
You can continue to say the above as often as you like, but, unlike
Picard, it does not make it so! :-)
Hal
Dark Energy makes Hal Puthoff's PV parameter K < 1, which is what he wants. His theory is no good to reach the stars and beyond, but it's testable, and this is an interesting property of it even though his theory is wrong. M theory and loop theory, so far, are in W. Pauli's words "not even wrong."
What does Hal mean by "K"?
In his simplest charge neutral SSS model
K = e^2GM/c^2r
Where does the "vacuum coherence" appear in Hal's formula?
What is Hal Puthoff's definition of "vacuum coherence"?
Hint: He has yet to publish one.
Assuming Hal comes up with a definition of "vacuum coherence" precise
enough to compare with his "K", are we talking about the same idea?
Where does the term "vacuum coherence" appear in any of Hal's papers?
Ditto for the recent paper by Vallee and Davis.
Where does the term "dark energy"appear in any of Hal's papers? Ditto
for the recent paper by Vallee and Davis.
Where and when does Hal discuss the relationships among "dark energy",
"K" and "vacuum coherence"?
Where does Hal give a practical procedure, in principle as a
gedankexperiment at least, for how to control K significantly and how
to make K < 1?
Jack Sarfatti's solution to problem 1.2 for the historical record.
For the record. Here is my ORIGINAL formula for the above problem
using Hal's PV model that is not found in any of his papers. For a
uniform exotic vacuum distribution of positive zero point pressure,
i.e. a uniform sphere of "dark matter" of radius r* like the Galactic
Halo, assuming Hal's wrong PV model, then
GM is replaced by -c^2/\zpfr*^3 neglecting small rational factors of
pi
In the conventions used exotic vacuum /\zpf < 0 gravitates as "dark
matter" and /\zpf > 0 anti-gravitates as "dark energy".
Therefore, at least for r > r*
K = e^-2/\zpfr*^3/r
Note that K > 1 for /\zpf < 0, i.e. for gravitating "dark matter"
attractive phase of exotic vacuum.
K < 1 for /\zpf > 0, i.e. for anti-gravitating "dark energy"
repulsive phase of exotic vacuum.
Furthermore
/\zpf = (Quantum of Area)^-1[(Quantum of Volume)|Vacuum Coherence|^2 -
1]
Where "Vacuum Coherence" is a LOCAL complex scalar field that derives
primarily from a virtual electron-positron pair condensate whose phase
gives Einstein's metric field guv.
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:45:40 -0400
From: "Joel Isaacson"
Subject: Taurus-Auriga Lore...
Confession:
As of today's early afternoon I knew nothing about Auriga, and thought that
Taurus is a popular Ford sedan... Now that the Auriga-Taurus hypothesis
showed up in the Ur-ziggurat code (and the Sarfatti-code) I Googled
"Auriga+Taurus+UFO", just out of sheer curiosity... Surprisingly,
quite a few hits... One sample, a book for sale on Amazon:
Here Be Dragons: The Scientific Quest for Extraterrestrial Life
by David W. Koerner, Simon Levay
[....]
From Library Journal
Planetary scientist Koerner and neuroanatomist LeVay have written a clear,
concise, and engaging overview of the hypotheses, experiments, explorations,
and issues that surround exobiology, the search for life forms, intelligent
beings, and advanced civilizations elsewhere in the universe. Their
open-minded and level-headed presentation takes readers from the Arecibo
radio telescope in Puerto Rico to emerging star systems throughout our
galaxy. One becomes acutely aware of both the technological challenges of
exobiological research and the philosophical ramifications should life as we
know it (or don't know it) be found on other worlds. Topics critically
discussed range from the origin of life on Earth to extrasolar planets and
the Taurus-Auriga molecular cloud. Koerner and LeVay excel at making complex
empirical information both comprehensive and relevant. Fascinating, and
inspiring, and rich in ideas, this is highly recommended for all science
collections.
-H. James Birx, Canisius Coll., Buffalo, NY
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, clearly, some people have alraedy considered "Taurus-Auriga molecular
cloud"
for possible origins of some kind.... the coincidence is interesting, to
say the least...
=jdi=
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:39:51 +0200
From: "scerir"
Subject: Re: The Ur-Mensch and Fulcanelli
From: "Berkant"
Serafino Cerulli-Irelli, your homepage is not working anymore.
What happened?
Hi, well my son is playing with it ... at the present status is
.... blank! As far as I remember there was not so much in it.
Just few informations about physics and cooking, and about
the (von Weizsaecker & Finkelstein) self-measurement problem
in QM. I mean a "self-interaction governed by an internal parameter
instead of time", as D. Finkelstein called it. And this reminds me
of an unknown italian poet (XVIII sec.) who wrote: "Era il tempo
che il tempo ancor nun era tempo". More or less something like:
"Once upon a time, the time wasn't yet time"
See also what Finkelstein wrote, long time ago, in "The Physics
of Logic" [in "Paradigms and Paradoxes", ed. R. G. Colodny, 1971,
pag. 60]: "There is, to be sure, a genuine problem in the phenomenon
of quantum measurement, but I will not discuss it here. It
concerns *introspective* systems, where subject = object so
that the basic conception of a single subject observing an
ensemble of objects must be modified."
More references, on Goedel-ish issues in QM are:
-Arthur Komar, "Undecidability of Macroscopically Distinguishable
States in Quantum Field Theory", Physical Review, 133, (1964), p. B542
-Asher Peres, "Measurement of Time by Quantum Clocks", American Journal
of Physics, 48, (1980), p. 552
- Asher Peres, W.H. Zurek, "Is Quantum Theory Universally Valid?",
American Journal of Physics, 50, (1982), p. 807
- David. Z. Albert, "On Quantum-Mechanical Automata", Physics Letters,
98.A, (1983), p, 249
- Asher Peres, "On Quantum-Mechanical Automata", Physics Letters,
101.A, (1984), p. 249
- Asher Peres, "Einstein, Godel, Bohr", Foundations of Physics,
15, (1985), p. 201
- Peter Mittelstaedt, "The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics and
the Measurement Process", CAmbridge U.P., 1998.
- Thomas Breuer, Quantenmechanick - Ein Fall fuer Goedel?, Spectrum,
Heidelberg, 1996
- Thomas Breuer, Classical Observables, Measurement and Quantum Mechanics,
Ph.D. Thesis, Un. of Cambridge, 1994
- Thomas Breuer, many papers (and those here above) at
http://www.staff.fh-vorarlberg.ac.at/tb/tbpublisteengl.html
- Karl Svozil, "Randomness and Undecidability in Physics",
Singapore, World Scientific, 1993
Did you know that Irelli means "one with a big hand" in Turkish.
In Turkish you can say with one word where you need several words in
other languages.
Now, your name Turkish name Irelli rhymes to Fulcanelli.
Or was it originally Urelli or maybe Turelli?:-)
As far as I know Irelli is the original family name (going back
to the XVIII sec., but not more). The are, still, few Irellis
in Abruzzo, Italy, esp. in the province of Teramo (Adriatic coast).
But, look, The Adriatic coast has been invaded by Ottomans
many times in the dark ages! See below something about Lepanto
battle.
The strange thing here (I mean, with my family name) is the
extravagant similarity between Ceru-lli and Ire-lli. In fact
they were two distinct original family names. But around
1850 a Cerulli married an Irelli (female, the *last* member
of Irelli family). So they made a double name "Cerulli
Irelli". It should be written with a "-" in between,
but "official" computers here do not accept the "-"
(in France they do!).
Lepanto, Oct. 7, 1571.
Naval battle between the Christians and Ottomans
fought at the mouth of the Gulf of Patras, off
Lepanto, Greece. The fleet of the Holy League
commanded by John of Austria (d. 1578) opposed
the Ottoman fleet under Uluç Ali Pasha.
The allied fleet (about 200 galleys, not counting
smaller ships) consisted mainly of Spanish, Venetian,
and papal ships and of vessels sent by a number
of Italian states. It carried approximately 30,000
fighting men and was about evenly matched with
the Ottoman fleet. The battle ended with the virtual
destruction of the Ottoman navy (except 40 galleys,
with which Uluç Ali escaped). Approximately 15,000
Turks were slain or captured, some 10,000 Christian
galley slaves were liberated, and much booty was taken.
The victors, however, lost over 7,000 men.
Among the allied wounded was Cervantes, who lost the use
of his left arm. Lepanto was the first major Ottoman
defeat by the Christian powers, and it ended the myth
of Ottoman naval invincibility. It did not, however,
affect Ottoman supremacy on the land, and a new Turkish
fleet was speedily built by Sokollu, grand vizier
of Selim II. Nevertheless, the battle was decisive
in the sense that an Ottoman victory probably would
have made the Ottoman Empire supreme in the Mediterranean.
Don John's hunting, and his hounds have bayed-
Booms away past Italy the rumour of his raid.
Gun upon gun, ha! ha!
Gun upon gun, hurrah!
- G. K. Chesterton, 'Lepanto'
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5443/leppoem.htm
The naval battle, maps, etc.
http://www.nafpaktos.com/battle_of_lepanto.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5443/lepanto3.htm
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