On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Well said Colin. :-)
I agree to being self-righteous and outrageously moral. However, I do not think I have been irrational and prejudiced? I have also been humorous and satirical and have used ridicule. That aside your points are well taken.
PS Martin Garvis who won for Don Imus and who defended Lenny Bruce is on Michael Savage's legal defense team with Daniel Horowitz. Martin wrote from Italy where he is vacationing "If Michael needs me I will come."
"I have listened to what you say carefully ... Sandoval is lying about what you said about immigrants. Then he is organizing a mob to take your job away. ... He (Sandoval) is using the power of the State to deprive you of your rights ... "
Attorney Daniel Horowitz to Michael Savage on the radio to millions of Americans.
On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:21 PM, COLIN BENNET wrote:
When I evaluate what you say purely intellectually, I agree with every single point you are making. However the right to moral outrage is a fundamental manifestation of the human condition. It is the one thing that separates us from animals and robots. We are not dealing with exact science here. We are dealing with very deep archetypal feelings (on all the sides involved, I am sure). Jack's shouts show that he cares, just as does the recent screaming between myself and Pippin. Both of us care. Both of us are being self-righteous and outrageously moral, which any good psychiatrist would say was therapeutic.To ask Jack or anybody else to divest themselves of self-righteousness, irrationality, and prejudice, is to ask to demythologise the troubled identity of the tragic animal that is Man. Unfortunately for liberals and social democrats, the best thinking is always troubled and anarchic, often quite ridiculously inspired, and it all takes place in a mysterium of conflicts which can go any way which way. This is Aristotle's idea of purgation (in the Poetics)To ask that Jack put aside his anger is to ask for a rationalisation which would take away from his personality. To ask such a person to joint the ranks of the Victorian Station Masters and become reasonable in these circumstances is like asking Jack to kiss Eric Davis on both cheeks and send birthday cards both to his mother, his Agent, and his publisher.
On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Andrew Beckwith wrote:
I wish it were so simple.
You are speaking of a democratic milieu which existed prior to Richard Nixon. In
this sense I hearken to the tradition you are referring to.
Moral outrage is, unfortunately, one of the casualities of modern life where cheap
instant psycho drama has overtaken the genuine manistifications of this most
The sad thing I reflect upon is that Jack DOES have a right to be furious. He also
runs the risk of having that moral insult trivialized by charlatans into a manistification
of mental problems, which are used to attack his credibility.
To whit, this has become the new norm of governance. If you " make a stink, you
see a shrink " has become the modus operandi of big business, and of charlatans
in governmental service to intimidate ordinary citizens into tollerating situations no
sane person would put up with half a century ago.
I am not faulting Jack for his anger. I am asking him to play smart in an arena
where psychiatric diagnosis has become the weapon of choice by the status
quo to fend off needed change.
Indeed, a Soviet tactic. Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.
On Aug 14, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
They are on item 31 - 32 items to go. Aaron Peskin head of the board put near the end - 69 items. Will they even get to it?
It may be on web at SFGTV website? I have not checked.
[Condemning defamatory language used by radio personality Michael Savage against the immigrant community]
Supervisors Sandoval, Ammiano
Resolution condemning defamatory language used by radio personality Michael Savage against the immigrant community.
8/7/2007, REFERRED FOR ADOPTION WITHOUT COMMITTEE REFERENCE AGENDA AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
Question: Shall this Resolution be ADOPTED?
On Aug 14, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Let all the drug-dazed San Fransicko Libs with mental disorders and mush for minds put their money where their mouth is and invite the homeless and the illegal immigrants, and Muslim terrorists disguised as illegals, into their homes and give them sanctuary. Better yet, let them move to Berserkley. ;-)
Where is Chertoff when we need him tomorrow to round up the illegals in front of the Savage Radio Station? Where is the FBI? Where are the Federal Marshals? Where is the Border Patrol? Where is Dog, The Bounty Hunter? Where are the Hell's Angels? Is anybody home? Are you all out to lunch? ;-) The idiot Scandalover does not seem to know that Michael has 370 radio stations across America with at least 15 million supporters who have registered on his website.
Blog Responses to the Attack on Michael Savage
Hilarious! The only INTOLERANCE at work here is from the San Francisco STALINISTS who want to condemn ANY OPINION that disagrees with theirs. They are intolerant of any contrary opinion. To express legitimate disgust with welfare hounds and illegal immigrant communists and anti-American, racist bigots, fostered by groups like La Raza and the Orwellian-named "Peace and Justice" gang, to name a few, is SIMPLY free speech. It is still America, Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval, and not yet you’re MEX-AMERIKA!
thomistic.blogspot.com (Conservative Blogger)
Apparently feeling he is not getting enough attention from the city's drug-addicted tranny street hookers and Satanist lobby, District 11 Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval - who you may remember as the bloody genius who made the talk show rounds saying that America doesn't need an army - tried to one-up Daly by introducing a resolution condemning the “defamatory language used by radio personality Michael Savage against immigrants.”
sanfransanity.blogspot.com (Conservative Blogger)
Responses Posted on FreeRepublic.com
Whew! This action by city officials is a "Nazi-like" step by Marxists. They probably have already established re-education camps. This action shows how far afield from our constitution our country has strayed. Is thought control where we are headed? ...Against someone simply asking that current laws be enforced to protect our borders, language, and culture? ...Shocking to say the least! Posted by Olezip
The Leftists in San Francisco have borrowed a page right out of the Communist gulag system. Anyone can be hauled off to the "Re-Education" death camp for making "counter revolutionary statements" or saying anything "defamatory against progress.” The buzz words "hatred and racism" are the Western Left's equivalent. Moreover, the political prison camps of North Korea, China, and Cuba are filled with whole families today because they have sinned against the all powerful state. America used to be a free country where you could tell people to go starve themselves to death if they wished because they were advocating lunacy. Now, the PC Poliezi are out in force. God help us all. Posted by SkyPilot
Helooo San Fransicko... How pathetic, demonize Savage to steal even more money from the taxpayer’s wallets, for a law that should be Unconstitutional, “if” Hazelton cannot pass ordinances that regulate illegals, how can SF pass laws that go the other way? Posted by padre35
I’ve never heard of something like this being aimed at any talk show host or newsman. What a dangerous precedent. Posted by SmoothTalker
Typical San Fran sicko stunts. And sicko Sandoval is the mincing meterosexual who blocked the US Navy warship from a permanent berth there for tourism Posted by Dennisw
The left will stop at nothing short of getting him and all conservatives off the radio.... since their Air America went belly up. Posted by b4its2late
On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Barry Goldwater, acceptance speech as Republican candidate for President, 1963
US politician (1909 - 1998)
Let's stick to the issues and the ideas. You do not seem to understand them. This is beyond party politics. Attorney Dan Horowitz is considered a Liberal (in best sense of "I may not agree with you, but I will defend your right to say it" - real Classical Liberal not a Commie pretending to be one right out of Orwell's Pig in "Animal Farm.") and he is defending Savage against the Soviet Totalitarian Supervisors of San Fransicko. So is Dannie's cousin who defended Lenny Bruce and who has written a book on the threat to the Constitution of idiots like Scandalover who has had to pay damages for slander in the past mind you. Let them fix the San Francisco streets and leave foreign affairs to the Feds. Throw the Bums out!
Michael has at least 15 million American activist voters. Has that fact, has that political reality sunk in to the the phony Libs with mental disorders? No, not yet. To be fair not many Republicans know it either. Wait till they come up for re-election. Throw the Bums out!
On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:14 PM,
jack, forgive the spelling errors, I am legally blind and can't really see the screen very well. I do use a magnifyer and sometimes audio aids, but I just over looked it this time. .as for Collin he is a miserable ass and just has to be over looked. Sorry to offend you fellows as I understand there is little compassion on this list..
Best as always
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Sarfatti"
To: "COLIN BENNET"
Subject: Re: Axis of Evil: Baghdad by the Bay of Orwell's Pigs: Communist Coup of San Francisco City Government commend Hugo Chavez
Jerry as Colin points out your spelling is illiterate.
Your message is inarticulate as if some mind rot has
set in? As Michael Savage says "Liberalism is a mental
disorder." He means phony Liberalism of course, which
is in reality Soviet Communism that is alive and well
in Berserkley and in the local San Francisco
Government who cannot fix the city streets because
they are too busy usurping the power of the Federales
on National Security and Foreign Policy. Fact is
Michael Savage is literate, with an IQ of 170 and a
PhD in bioscience area from UC Berkeley and that goes
a long way to explain why 15 million American voters
support him! That fact has not dawned on the Commies
pretending to be Liberals. A real Old-Line Liberal
Lawyer, Dannie Horowitz is on the case. Jerry besides
being inarticulate below you seem to have no
understanding of the First Amendment and what the real
issues are here that go beyond party politics.
--- COLIN BENNET
Please concentrate before you write emails. You
yourself need to take a long read of books on
grammar, spelling, and punctuation. What is a "small
intellegent man?" for Christs's sake? Sarfatti is a
tall genius, and he is terrible at public relations!
You must be talking about somebody else, maybe one
of the straw-behind-the-ears Oki from Muskogee
"Ufologists" you interview. I can smell the straw on
your studio floor from the UK. Fascism is not
liberal? Fantastic thinking, and what are the three
Jack you are a small intellegent man when it comes
to science and public relations, but facism is not
liberal, it is just the opposite, it when
corporations control everything..check out the
political science books and take a long read.
Your liberal friend