Memorandum for the Record on EVOs

"EVO" = Exotic Vacuum Object"

Ken Shoulder seems to be making them on the mesoscopic scale.

All lepto-quarks are also spatially-extended EVOs on the fermi scale 10^-13 cm in their rest frames, that shrink from spatial warping to ~ 10^-16 cm when probed with high-energy impact parameters, are Bohm hidden variables, i.e. Wheeler's "IT".

The Galactic Halo holding the stars together in our galaxy is a large EVO.

Flying saucers weightless warp drive is EVO advanced super technology.

That is, UFO "G-Engines" (George Trimble in Nick Cook's "The Hunt for Zero Point") making Paul Hill's "acceleration fields" are EVO engines.

On possibly "cold fusion" application of EVOs see p. 77 of August 2004 "Popular Mechanics".

On Aug 24, 2004, at 7:08 PM, Ken Shoulders wrote:

Jack
I have put some thoughts on the web and enclosed a copy for your inspection. Please let me know if I am way off or have said something already well known. In addition, see if you can find any of your dark stuff sticking to electrons that might cause the short range attraction without harming the long range repulsion so revered by all.


That's exactly what my equations show! :-)

I will get back to your write up in a few days. :-)

Briefly the argument goes like this:

The Coulomb electric repulsive self energy per electron for an N electron EVO charge cluster of radius r* is

~ N^2e^2/mr*

Imagine all N electrons distributed uniformly in a thin spherical shell, Think of each electron Bohm hidden variable as a sphere of radius ~ h/mc. Therefore, N spheres close packed have an area A ~ N(h/mc)^2. The Schwarzschild curvature radius r* is defined as

A = 4pir*^2

Therefore, ignoring rotation of the sphere and IGNORING the QED Casimir force (stick them in later), keeping only the zero point energy induced effective gravity from Einstein's exotic vacuum field equation

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

in this crude toy model (BTW Hal Puthoff does not understand this last equation. You will never find it in any of his papers related to "metric engineering" yet it is the fundamental equation for metric engineering!) ignoring small rational fractions of pi for this back of the envelope estimate:

N(h/mc)^2 ~ r*^2 for close packing

For a uniform spherical core of exotic vacuum /\zpf holding the N electrons together in the spherical shell, the gravity self-energy per unit electron is simply

~ c^2/\zpfr*^2

Note that this is a 3D harmonic oscillator potential! It has a natural symmetry group SU(3) as I recall? Also like the quark potential the energy increases with separation!

Why is it a 3D harmonic oscillator potential? Simple, drill a hole through the center of the Earth and drop a ball. I am using Newton's law of gravity that the mass beyond the position of the ball does not influence its motion. With rotation there will be frame drag gravimagnetism of course that is missing in Hal's PV model.

For dynamical equilibrium you need to have the negative gradients of all the potential energies add up to zero. Worry about stability later.

Therefore the equilibrium is

N^2e^2/mc^2r*^2 - 2/\zpfr* = 0

or

N(e^2/mc^2)(mc/h)^2 = 2/\zpfN^1/2(h/mc)

/\zpf ~ N^1/2(e^2/mc^2)(mc/h)^2 ~ N^1/2(137)(mc/h)^2

Note that if N ~ 10^11

r* ~ 10^5 10^-11 ~ 10^-6 cm ~ 10 nanometers

on this model that ignores rotation and Casimir force as a first approximation.

Note that /\zpf scales only as the square root of the total number N of electrons in the charge cluster EVO ignoring rotation of the EVO about its center of mass and also ignoring the QED Casimir force.

Note that you need an anti-gravity repulsive core /\zpf of positive zero point energy density with negative quantum pressure to hold your EVO together because the electric repulsion energy is positive but decreases with increasing distance. The zero point energy induced strong gravity of the exotic vacuum core needs to be positive because it then increases with separation to make a minimum well of stability in the total potential energy! So that this is actually a "dark energy core" of the EVO! Just what the doctor ordered for cold fusion BTW! :-)

Note further that dark energy makes Hal Puthoff PV parameter K < 1 in his simplest SSS model. Not that I think Puthoff's PV model is any good of course, but at least it is testable and has that feature that Hal was looking for.

Appendix on Hal Puthoff's PV Model


On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:44 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

PS Let me for the record explicitly address Hal's

Wrong again.  Proper control of K in the PV model IS control of vacuum coherence, just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir plates IS control of interference patterns by boundary conditions.  You've never gotten this, have you?  (Others have.)  Wake up and smell the chai! 

There Hal goes again dragging in the dead cat of the QED Casimir force, which has nothing to do with the direct gravity effect of zero point energy. Hal seems to equate

"ZPE mode suppression" with "vacuum coherence".

This is not what I mean by "vacuum coherence".

First of all, Hal is only thinking of random virtual photons trapped between two plates. I am thinking of a "More is different" local complex order parameter from a vacuum condensate of virtual electron-positron pairs.

How does Hal propose to get warp drives and wormholes from the tiny Casimir force between two plates?

The direct gravity effect of zero point energy has nothing at all to do with the Casimir force, nor do you need plates particularly. It has to do with the Einstein field equation for the exotic vacuum that is

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

In any case I challenge Hal to make some simple mathematical models of what he means by

"just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir plates IS control of interference patterns by boundary conditions"

And how that helps in the quest to metric engineer warp drives and traversable wormhole time travel star gates?


On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

1.1 Do a comparative analysis of the CERN document

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search.py?recid=789638&ln=en


and the NIDS documents

http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis.pdf

http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/vallee_davis_ppt.pdf



Point out strengths and weaknesses in each.

1.2 What is wrong and or right with Hal Puthoff's statement:

On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:38 PM, Puthoff@aol.com wrote:


In a message dated 8/24/2004 4:44:47 PM Central Daylight Time, sarfatti@pacbell.net writes:
Metric engineering is the control of the phase of the vacuum coherence.
Puthoff, Davis, Haisch, Vallee and all the Boys at NIDS, NASA BPP,
MITRE, BAE et-al have not the slightest inkling of what this is.

Wrong again.  Proper control of K in the PV model IS control of vacuum coherence, just like ZPE mode suppression between Casimir plates IS control of interference patterns by boundary conditions.  You've never gotten this, have you?  (Others have.)  Wake up and smell the chai! 
 
You can continue to say the above as often as you like, but, unlike Picard, it does not make it so!  :-)
 
Hal


What does Hal mean by "K"?

In his simplest charge neutral SSS model

K = e^2GM/c^2r

Where does the "vacuum coherence" appear in Hal's formula?

What is Hal Puthoff's definition of "vacuum coherence"?

Hint: He has yet to publish one.

Assuming Hal comes up with a definition of "vacuum coherence" precise enough to compare with his "K", are we talking about the same idea?

Where does the term "vacuum coherence" appear in any of Hal's papers? Ditto for the recent paper by Vallee and Davis.

Where does the term "dark energy"appear in any of Hal's papers? Ditto for the recent paper by Vallee and Davis.

Where and when does Hal discuss the relationships among "dark energy", "K" and "vacuum coherence"?

Where does Hal give a practical procedure, in principle as a gedankexperiment at least, for how to control K significantly and how to make K < 1?

Jack Sarfatti's solution to problem 1.2 for the historical record.

For the record. Here is my ORIGINAL formula for the above problem using Hal's PV model that is not found in any of his papers. For a uniform exotic vacuum distribution of positive zero point pressure, i.e. a uniform sphere of "dark matter" of radius r* like the Galactic Halo, assuming Hal's wrong PV model, then

GM is replaced by -c^2/\zpfr*^3 neglecting small rational factors of pi

In the conventions used exotic vacuum /\zpf < 0 gravitates as "dark matter" and /\zpf > 0 anti-gravitates as "dark energy".

Therefore, at least for r > r*

K = e^-2/\zpfr*^3/r

Note that K > 1 for /\zpf < 0, i.e. for gravitating "dark matter" attractive phase of exotic vacuum.

K < 1 for /\zpf > 0, i.e. for anti-gravitating "dark energy" repulsive phase of exotic vacuum.

Furthermore

/\zpf = (Quantum of Area)^-1[(Quantum of Volume)|Vacuum Coherence|^2 - 1]


Where "Vacuum Coherence" is a LOCAL complex scalar field that derives primarily from a virtual electron-positron pair condensate whose phase gives Einstein's metric field guv.

On Aug 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Aug 15, 2004, at 4:18 PM, Scott Littleton wrote:

Whether the "Visitors, " or what I've come to call, collectively, the "Alien Raj," come from our own future, an alternate future in a parallel dimension/universe, or, as I still suspect, from somewhere relatively nearby in THIS universe and THIS galaxy,

All three are distinctly possible and likely given the very recent discovery of anti-gravity dark energy as the dominant, albeit "virtual" stuff of the multi-verse. Dark energy is the "exotic matter" of Kip Thorne in his mid-1980's star gate wormhole paper triggered by Saul-Paul Sirag and also Alcubierre's early 90's weightless warp drive paper. Little did they, or anyone know, how easy it was to find it. Indeed, it is our "real" form of stuff that is truly exotic - only ~ 4% of the whole. This was the missing link. I only understood it in 2002. The first evidence only came in 1999! Hal Puthoff still does not understand how the zero point energy really works gravitationally. Why? Because he rejects Einstein's theory with tensors and all that and is off on a wild goose chase ALLEGEDLY wasting, I hear, a lot of "black" UFO money over a long time with essentially nothing of relevance to good flying saucer data. I have no idea if these persistent rumors sent to me by more than one source are true. Hal denies what I am told. Hal has never acknowledged the key importance of my basic metric engineering exotic vacuum field equations

Guv + /\zpfguv ~ 0

/\zpf a simple function of the macro-quantum vacuum coherence.

/\zpf > 0 is the repulsive anti-gravitational field zero point energy source of negative pressure

/\zpf < 0 is the attractive gravitational field zero point energy source of positive pressure

/\zpf = 0 is the ordinary non-exotic common sense vacuum that has no "weight", i.e. is not a source or sink of gravitational connection field flux and tidal curvature.

Indeed Puthoff never even defines precisely what he means by "metric engineering" and how his concept applies to the flying saucer data found, for example, on the NIDS website where is a member of the Science Advisory Board.

Note in the Newtonian static limit my equation is simply

Laplacian of the vacuum's gravitational potential energy per unit test particle ~ c^2/\zpf

Puthoff has never written such an equation before me. This equation has nothing to do with the quantum electrodynamic Casimir ZPF force, which in most applications is an obstacle to the objective of metric engineering the fabric of space-time for the kind of advanced exotic military space weapons systems we observe in our skies. So who is fooling who here? I tell it like it is. Dark energy is the key to the economy and technology of the Alien Raj. You are witness to the timeline of my discovery of this. You recall that in the Joe Firmage ISSO days I did not have this idea, but was fumbling in the dark just like Hal Puthoff is doing still today but not admitting it. We did learn from ISSO that no one out there in the New Age alternative energy field is competent. I am not talking about solar, wind and geothermal energy of course, but of all the wackos that we tested and that Puthoff still tests I understand? It's not worth the time and the money.

you're certainly correct in asserting that they've been here for a very long time. My own estimate, based on an assessment of Upper Paleolithic iconography (e.g., the sudden appearance "lenticular" images on cave walls, etc.), is that that they established themselves as Earth's clandestine "colonial" overlords ca. 13,000-15,000 years ago, that is, toward the end of the Pleistocene. Indeed, I suspect that it was their awareness that this planet was on the verge of a fundamental (and rapid) climatological change-the imminent melting of the great icecaps-that initially convinced them to settle in, as they must have been curious to see how the exceedingly primitive, albeit intelligent indigenous inhabitants (i.e., our early modern hominid ancestors) would adapt to this change. Sometime later, the biological (hybridization, DNA-harvesting, etc.) and psychological (e.g., indoctrinating their human subjects with a variety of "religious" ideas, testing our reactions to crop-circles, etc.) experiments began, and have continued to the present, in large part driven by what appears to be an increasingly desperate need for human DNA and/or hybrids. The reasons underlying this need are still unclear. However, I think David Jacobs (see his THE THREAT, 1998) is essentially correct in his assessment of the situation here, even though he still insists that the "Phenomenon" doesn't date back much past the late 19th century.

That you (Jack) could have received a "phone call from the future" in 1953 is not inconsistent from the foregoing hypothesis, especially if, as many serious ufologists strongly suspect, the "Alien Raj" has long since evolved a technology that allows them to manipulate space & time so as to facilitate travel across tens or hundreds of light-years.

I essentially now know how all that works. It is no longer a mystery. Prior to 2002 I did not know. Of course, I was set to work on this back in at least 1953 by a black USG project master minded by Eugene McDermott and based in New Mexico of course - where Richard Doty is today allegedly working for the local coppers - of course. This project was obviously an effect of the Roswell Incident in 1947.


However, this capability has probably yielded a great many other dividends. I've often suspected that the aliens may have been monitoring you (Jack) since early childhood.


They were quite direct about it.
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
Also with Uri Geller.
Did Hal Puthoff also have direct contact as a child? It's quite possible. He may have repressed that. Hal is definitely part of "the others" as is Russell Targ and all the usual suspects.

"My banner bravely unfurled" Man of La Mancha

"For I am a Pirate King." http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/pirate_king.mid Raise The Jolly Roger!
KING:
Oh, better far to live and die
Under the brave black flag I fly,
Than play a sanctimonious part
With a pirate head and a pirate heart.
Away to the cheating world go you,
Where pirates all are well-to-do;
But I'll be true to the song I sing,
And live and die a Pirate King.
For I am a Pirate King!
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King!
For I am a Pirate King!
ALL:
You are!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
KING:
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King.
ALL:
It is!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
KING:
When I sally forth to seek my prey
I help myself in a royal way.
I sink a few more ships, it's true,
Than a well-bred monarch ought to do;
But many a king on a first-class throne,
If he wants to call his crown his own,
Must manage somehow to get through
More dirty work than e'er I do,
For I am a Pirate King!
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King!
For I am a Pirate King!
ALL:
You are!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
KING:
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King.
ALL:
It is!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!

http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/html/pirates_home.html

It's time now to achieve the impossible dream and reach for the stars and beyond to the eschaton!

"Pour oh pour the Pirate's sherry, fill o fill the Pirate's glass ..."
http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/brandani/pirates_01.mid


In the process, they may have noticed in an alternate timeline what you would discover twenty years later, and then did their best to ensure that you would do the same thing in THIS timeline. Indeed, I've often wondered whether you're still an ongoing, albeit unconscious alien "subject."

I am alien from the neck up. My mind is definitely alien.

Any significant missing-time episodes, etc. in recent years? Or any weird dreams that might indicate that you've been a "guest" of the "Alien Raj" from time to time?

Those aliens got more than they bargained for! That's for sure. ;-)


In any case, I'm currently working on a book that will assess these matters from an anthropological perspective. Tentatively entitled ALIEN RAJ: AN ANTHROPOLOGIST LOOKS AT THE UFO PHENOMENON, it should be finished in about a year. So please stay tuned!

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
FAX (323) 982-0264
http://faculty.oxy.edu/yokatta/

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:55 PM
To: Dan Smith
Cc: Al K.; Alan P.; Bruce M.; Christopher G.; David Williams; Hal P.; John A.; John Brandenburg; Joseph Stefula; Judith Sutter; Nick C.; RAY HUDSON; Ron P.; Saul Paul Sirag; Stephen Bassett; Scott Littleton; Victor Martinez; Dick Farley; David Gladstone; Bill L.; d wanek
Subject: Re: eschaton focus group

PS Real metric engineering of warpdrives and wormholes with time travel
to the past means that in a deep sense reality is closer to The Matrix
movie concept than not. The discovery of dark energy and dark matter
means that the parallel worlds are mostly virtual in both key senses of
the word as "off-mass-shell" and as an emergent self-organizing
macro-quantum holodeck display from a micro-quantum bit substratum
where the algorithms adapt.

On Aug 13, 2004, at 8:32 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Aug 13, 2004, at 2:44 PM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack, et al.,

It does appear that Jack, as usual, is game for most anything. Now
we'll
have to see about the rest. The less we have to bother Ron about
issues of
authorization, the better off we'll be, considering the prime
directive and
all that.

A big issue is voluntarism, given that a salient characteristic of us
creatures is our alleged free will. How does this jibe with the idea
of a
salvation economy, i.e. cosmic plan?

I imagine that we are like the actors in a play, we can only get away
with
so much ad-libbing, and since we don't know the script, we hardly
know what
we get away with.

It's Jazz! Improvise. However in my own timeline I detect a clear
weird pattern.


WRT the eschaton, it can only be marginally voluntary, while being
maximally
participatory.

It does appear that most of you, like Paul Allen, would not mind
participating in a rapture like exercise of 'loosing' our earthly
chains.

What's that about Paul Allen?


Most of us, however, are reluctant to cut short our appointed sojourn
on
Earth. We are happy to hire astronauts to set up bases on Mars. It
is
partly a question of carrot vs. stick. What are the trade-offs
between
Earth and Elsewhere? There are many variables and unknowns to
consider.

Those saucers can go a lot further than Mars in quick time without
propellants.

This issue becomes more problematic if the likely destination is not
the
planet next door, but the universe next door.

But is such concern not academic at this point, i.e. very premature?
Maybe
yes, maybe no.

No, since The Visitors have been here for a long time according to
Scott Littleton's research and according to my own contact.


It depends on the state of the 'technology'. The working assumption
for
most of us is that the technology already exists, but is presently
unavailable. We have a simple choice: physical engineering or social
engineering. I am hardly alone in suggesting the latter. My
reasoning is
both orthodox and unorthodox.

Soviets tried social engineering. The technology is becoming fast
available with some bumps in the road.


I suggest that the primary problem is choreography.

Chorus line!

The Earth was constructed on the basis of a planned obsolescence. It
was
never intended to be our permanent home. Moving day may be just
around the
corner.

Obviously. Childhood's End.


Almost every society has been founded on the assumption of an ultimate
transience. Thus have we been prepared for this inevitability.

Up to this point, a primary portal has been the grave: it's low tech,
and
universally affordable. I know that Jack is hoping to move up-market.

Remember Rabbi Yeshua's Promise.

We
then have the issue of transplanting vs. transmigration. Up to this
point
the choreography has favored the individual transmigration via natural
attrition. But, if Jack and I are right, we soon begin the
transition to a
transplanting scenario, via craft and physical portals. We move from
the
heaven's gate scenario to the stargate scenario. This will be
necessary if
we are to achieve an historical closure relative to our earthly
experience.

Yes, that's what metric engineering is all about. Isn't it odd that
Hal Puthoff has never given a clear definition what he means by
"metric engineering" and what its applications are?


The point is that our future, for the most part, lies elsewhere. Deep
ecologists may wish to remain behind, but their abode will be
transformed
both physically and metaphysically. In either case, life will be
radically
altered. For most of us it will be 'moveon.org'.

Correct. Have brains will travel - that's Fred Alan Wolf's Marching
Song. BTW I just saw Gary Zukav's updated introduction to Dancing Wu
Li Masters. The man is certifiably mad as well as boring. My biggest
mistake was inviting both him and David Finkelstein to Esalen in
January 1976,


The EFG now has only to help choreograph the early evacuation phase.
What
would be our best possible evacuation plan?

Learn how the saucers work, how consciousness is generated and how to
cancel out Hawking's time travel barrier from infinite blue shift to
infinite red shift - a mere fizzle when we engage time warp to the
past.


Our success in this regard
would be expected to hasten the turnover of the relevant technology.

It's happening.

At the outset I would strongly recommend that Jack & Co. should
continue
their promethean quest to steal the 'dark energy' fire from the gods.

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html


But
there is no reason why not, and good reasons why we might choose to
cooperate in this two-pronged endeavor to participate in our cosmic
destiny.

In the meantime, we may let the counter-intelligence chips fall where
they
may.

The Darling Nano Buds of May. Or did you mean Chipman?

PS typo correction to my formula earlier today

(Entropy of Universe)/kB = (Area of World Hologram)/4(Quantum of Area)

= log[1 + /\(Quantum of Area)R(t)^2] ?

This obviously does not get very large.

Back from my titanium implant for artificial tooth transceiver to the
ET's from J. Edgar Hoova and The Nine provided I can find the correct
exotic vacuum bag. :-)

Do I speak in riddles? Surely I jest.

http://qedcorp.com/London/finalepoint.mp3




-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:07 PM
To: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars
Cc: ItalianPhysicsCenter; SarfattiScienceSeminars@YahooGroups. com
Subject: Dan Smith Returns From The Magick Mountain!


bcc

I hope you did not drop one of the stone tablets from The Visitors on
your way down Dan. :-)
BTW you can have a column in a new magazine that may be starting up
soon.

On Aug 13, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack, et al.,

Permit me, please, to use this as an excuse to broach some possibly
new
business.

I have been attempting to reinsert myself into this forum over the
last
several months. The new development is to refine a protocol with Ron
P. for
this purpose.

This is a somewhat delicate matter, which I am trying to simplify so
as not
to make my own communication protocol too complicated. As much as
possible
I would like to keep all of my communication in the open.

I watched Vice Admiral Lowell Jacoby head of DIA on C-Span. I am sure
the good Admiral would not like the way our Paul Murad as "UFOguy" is
filtering this kind of information for him. The Admiral emphasized
replacing "need to know" (left-hand does not know what right-hand is
doing) with a wider more liberal public access especially from
alternative unconventional sources. It's hard to make USG
bureaucracies
imaginative enough to connect the dots to prevent sequels to 911 that
would even be a larger magnitude.

I have been away for two weeks and, before I left, I met separately
with Ron
and Kit.

I have tentatively enlisted Ron's support for the formation of an
eschaton
focus group. This is not going to be easy because I know of no
eschatologists hereabouts. The only ones I know of are
fundamentalists, and
they have their already well established protocols, which do not
include the
likes of me!

Our new magazine will be the mass forum for that. I am hoping to
enlist
Uri Geller as a key creative force in it. He will have a column if he
likes and his images of creative art will be prominently featured.


The new gimmick is that Ron will tell a select audience that I may
not
be
crazy in this regard, contrary to his past comments concerning my
sanity.

We all know you are as crazy Dan as Don Quixote, but are you crazy
enough to be important in saving the world? That is what we are
attempting to do is it not? Did you see the movie "King of Hearts"? In
The Country of The Blind the One-Eyed Man is King as long as wily
Ulysses does not pluck it out.

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/dan.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/USSKron.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/bovines.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/coffee.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/Saturn.html



The problem is to justify the change of protocol. I requested that
this be
based on a private admission of an outstanding phenomenological
problem for
the government. This suggesting was rejected on the basis that it
would
subject Ron and others to additional harrassment by ufologists.

Of a most bigoted sort like Wesleyan Methodists!


The counter suggestion was to include the new protocol under the
rubric of
counter-intelligence. The attempts by Ron and others to explain this
rubric
to me have been less than successful, and/or would necessitate
on-going
private communications that would be time consuming.

Let me attempt to put something on the record. It is no secret that
Jerusalem is the focus of much eschatological speculation on the part
of
Jews, Christians and Muslims. It is also no secret that Jerusalem
remains
the focus of political tensions throughout the Middle East and much
of
the
world.

I explain all that in my book "Destiny Matrix" and even more in "Super
Cosmos" as "The Real Da Vinci Code".
Have you gotten in touch with Phil Crane's cousing Robert Dickson
Crane? He can explain much. Ask him about "Tauhid". BTW Read Popular
Mechanics August 2004 on homemade WMD look at p. 77 insert on "dark
energy" - sound familiar?


It is possible that the interjection of a new metaphysical/political
element
into this witches brew might be advantageous for certain clandestine
purposes. I would be happy to do my patriotic duty if this is the
case. No
problem.

The problem would be for the rest of you. How could you participate
effectively in this effort, knowing what I have just told you? This
would
no longer be a serious debate about physics vs. metaphysics. It
would
be a
cover for something else, i.e. a sham. Instead of just Dan being the
useful
idiot, we are now all invited to be useful idiots!

This is not a very subtle problem.

Any suggestions??


Dan

Like public key cryptography?

Better a "useful idiot" than a "useless idiot" that we have too many
of! :-)




-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:44 PM
To: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars
Cc: SarfattiScienceSeminars@YahooGroups. com; ItalianPhysicsCenter
Subject: Flying Saucers, SRI Demystified, Self-Creation Oroborus &
Dan


On Aug 9, 2004, at 1:29 PM, Scott Littleton wrote:

Hi David,

OK, it's an "engineering problem," I've got a question for you: Who
(or what) "engineered" the Great Engineer? That is, the entity that
so carefully designed the universe so that both you and I were
rendered inevitable some 13.5 billion years ago? Surely, he/she/it
or
whatever had to come from somewhere (or something). Or do you
believe
he/she/it, etc. simply appeared sui generis?

Yes, quite possibly IF time travel to the past is what is happening.
Contrary to what Stephen Hawking says officially the Tourists from
the
Future seem to be here and have been for thousands of years. Prime
Directive? Nah! Ideas literally create themselves. This idea was
already discussed in the tape recording Saul-Paul Sirag has of my
meeting with Brendan O Regan, Hal Puthoff, Russell Targ et-al in 1973
and Saul-Paul wrote an opera based on that idea in 1974 that was
produced at Berkeley. More details are in the book "Destiny Matrix" -
this time loop self-creation is basically what I mean by "Destiny
Matrix." Dan Smith prefers this to the WAP in an infinity of
parallel
universe. However, one does not preclude the other actually. The
Destiny Matrix Oroboros scenario explains WHY "The Visitors" are
here,
i.e. WHY "The Alien Raj."

-----------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Littleton [mailto:yokatta@oxy.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:58 PM
To: d1494@copper.net; rainman.hudson@verizon.net;
rc-losee@carolina.rr.com
Subject: RE: RE: The Hyksos, etc.


HI David,

Well, now we're getting onto some firmer ground: you say you're not
positing a deity in anything like the traditional sense. At least
one
that
need not be worshipped and cajoled to cure sick kids, make the crops
grow,
see to it that Suzie falls in love with me, etc. OK, fine, but the
idea of
a Supreme Intelligence, a creating entity of some sort, is still
redolent of
a divinity, even if not an anthropomorphic (or anthropocentric) one.
Are
you suggesting that this whatever-it-is simply wrote the basic
program, as
it were, and then absented itself from the result? If so, it reminds
me of
18th-century Deism, which had such an impact on our Founding Fathers,
including Jefferson & Washington, although the latter's worldview was
also
profoundly shaped by Freemasonry, which wasn't all that incompatible
with
Deism, especially at that time.

When you say the universe "created itself," it seems to me that
you're
implying in different words essentially what I've been saying: that
a
bunch
of random stuff (to put it crudely) happened by chance to come
together in
some vastly larger matrix (i.e., the multiverse) and bingo, we have
the Big
Bang and everything that has followed. That is, the "program" I just
mentioned began to unfold. At this point, "chaos theory" would
appear
to be
relevant, e.g., the so-called "butterfly effect," as even tiny random
events
can have a profound impact on how the "program" unfolds at any given
point
in space-time.

BTW, speaking of the multiverse, to wax speculative to the max-I'm
sure
Jack will have a lot of fun with this one!-I'm beginning to suspect
that our
universe, and probably others as well, may not be an expanding ball,
but
rather an expanding, oblong "pancake" with an overall configuration
fundamentally analogous, albeit at an impossibly vaster level, to a
spiral,
Milky-Way-type galaxy. I even suspect that it may have the
equivalent
of
spiral arms that are slowly rotating around the point where the Big
Bang
occurred, each rotation expanding its overall dimensions. This comes
in part
from observations that there is at least one vast region of space
that
is
lightly populated by galaxies and galactic clusters (I believe it's
sometimes called "the Great Wall" by astonomers); could it be part of
the
visible space between two of the spiral arms (it's probably crammed
with
"dark matter")? To follow this speculation a bit further, these
dimensions
may be roughly proportional to those of a spiral galaxy, in the case
of our
universe, about 30-40 billion light years on its long axis, say, 20
billion
on the shorter axis, and about 15 billion light years "thick."
Moreover, I
suspect that there is probably an infinite number of other universes,
some
of which have different configurations, out beyond ours in all
"directions"
on the same plane (indeed, some of them may be colliding with our
space-time, just as we know that galaxies often collide), as well as
an
equally infinite number of universes on wholly different planes that
intersect our plane; these would be the ones that are separated from
us by
potentially traversable "branes." And yes, I suspect that
non-localized
consciousness is almost everywhere-or at least in this universe-a
part
of
the overall "program," that it can cross the boundaries between
universes,
both on our own and other planes, and that our alien "visitors" are
well
versed in how to manipulate this phenomenon.

I should emphasize that, with the exception of the last sentence of
the
preceding paragraph, the forgoing grand speculation is lightly held.
Indeed, it's simply a highly tentative guess as to what MIGHT be the
case on
the part of an educated layman who's done a bit of reading on the
subject,
and may well be utterly absurd... But it does make some sense to me,
at
least...

Again, back to you, amigo, and

Cheers,
Scott

--Charles Fort

-----Original Message-----
From: d1494@copper.net [mailto:d1494@copper.net]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:00 PM
To: Scott Littleton; d1494@copper.net; rainman.hudson@verizon.net;
rc-losee@carolina.rr.com
Subject: RE: RE: The Hyksos, etc.

Many people feel that any mention of the creation of the universe is
ipso facto referring to GOD and all the attendant superstitions.
I don't believe in that kind of universe. The universe was engineered
to support life- as Ray Hudson seconded before. I don't think that we
are obliged to act any particular way or do anything one way or the
other in order to curry the favor of a deity. I don't think the
creator is a deity actually.



On Aug 15, 2004, at 12:24 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Aug 15, 2004, at 9:59 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack,

The Death Cults are working overtime. They do not stand on ceremony.


I agree 100%.


You give the impression here of doing the latter. You want to continue with
Physics as Usual.

No. I think you misunderstand. I am doing Physics as Unusual.

The real understanding of the physical nature of consciousness, dark energy/matter and the emergence of what we misname the "classical world" of curved space-time is essential to The Mission. The test of real understanding is the spin-off exotic advanced technology that we actually see in the flying saucer phenomenon including the psycho-tronic paranormal mind-control that Colonel Phillip J. Corso et-al wrote about.


Wait. What exactly is it that you want?

Yet to be determined. That is in the process of emerging in Wheeler's "Twenty Questions."

"The Question is: What is The Question?"

I have suggested more money

Is that an offer I can't refuse? :-)

More money spent in the right places is always a good idea. Right now almost all the money for metric engineering of advanced exotic smart space-weapons in the Black Budget is being flushed down the toilet like Halliburtan's exorbitant hotel room fees in the Iraq operation - well not as bad as that of course.

and
better peer review,

Yes, we love our House of Peers. Problem is that there really are no competent peers in this outlaw field. There are some minds who could be when pressed into service with the right information. I mean people like Roger Penrose and a few others of course. Hack minds simply are not be able to connect the dots correctly.

but you have said that these are unnecessary.

No, you misunderstand. I said not necessary for me personally at this time. So far I am a One Man Show. If you want a Chorus Line you need to pay for it. Also their stage sets are expensive - Union wages and benefits for the New Manhattan Project.


What then is your timeline?

3 - 5 years at most - if we have that long.

What is the next concrete step?

WYSIWYG. I am doing it. A detailed gedankenexperiment for weightless warp drive flying saucer --> working toy model. Also my immediate access to any captured alien device we might have as described by Jacques Vallee in "Fastwalker" - since that obviously is not 100% fiction.

How long will it take, and what are the probable results?

Who do you think I am Merlin? The Oracle at Delphi?

Meanwhile, the death cults march on. The doomsday clock keeps ticking.

Indeed.

You are NOT fulfilling your counterintelligence function if you are not
giving heed to Ron. There is no indication that you are presently doing
that.

Huh? Not true as far as I know.

I am relaying to you Ron's suggestion for immediate action. Your response
is to demand a private meeting. What is there to discuss? My counter-offer
is a meeting with Rick .... There is plenty to discuss there.

Like what? I thought he was some Army sergeant on the periphery. Are we talking about the same guy?

The email address that I was given, ..., failed. I am
confident that there are people on this list who can put us in contact with
him.

Rick remains a major loose end in the whole aviary affair. It must be
resolved before we can move further on the political/intelligence front.

You need to fill me in. We can do it privately if need be. You have lost me.

Are you going to continue to filibuster the effort on that front? I don't
filibuster the physics, I urge that you not filibuster the necessary
politics, mundane or otherwise.

What politics? Do you mean I should not make fun of Paul Wolfowitz and his Neo Con Pit Bulls in The China Shop? That's the only conventional politics I am aware of indulging in. What do you mean? Do you mean my chiding of Hal Puthoff & Co to either &*%# or get off The Pot? You speak in Riddle Dan? Do you Jest? Where is The Glory?




Corrected 2nd draft for the official historical record:

On Aug 15, 2004, at 9:08 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

bcc
On Aug 15, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack,

I gather that Dublin was witness to a continued hardening of the Physics
arteries.

No not at all. That's too simplistic.

The experimental cosmological/astrophysical physics is going very well! WMAP observations of CMB, Type 1a supernovae of the cosmic antigravity field called "dark energy", blackholes and all that. LIGO, LISA, Gravity Probe B (frame drag) coming online soon. Computer simulations of Einstein's gravity applied to real phenomena making good advances.

Yes, on the pure theory side. M theory strings and loop quantum gravity are basically Laputan and "not even wrong". The pure math is of course interesting, and a few ideas may survive, but basically they are both hype and do not at all deliver on their promise. Nevertheless, Brian Greene's NOVA Elegant Universe good because it has many of the same ideas I have been talking about including when Brian steps inside the telephone booth and talks to ET! http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html Nice that Brian & Co is catching up. ;-)

String theory cannot derive the standard local gauge invariance lepto-quark U(1)SU(2)SU(3) electro-weak-strong model of elementary particles with the vacuum coherent Higgs origin of lepto-quark inertia (pre-hadronic bag) and Einstein's theory of gravity as smooth curved space-time with black hole event horizons and tornado "whirls" of space (gravimagnetic frame drag even without Soviet torsion fields) as a natural limiting case - still handwaving. Loop theory cannot derive Einstein's theory either as a limiting case even though it starts with Einstein's theory but loses it along the way.

Penrose gave the best theory talk putting everything in its proper place in

"Fashion, Faith and Fantasy" that you can see on video online.
http://www.princeton.edu/WebMedia/lectures/

I think I have solved Penrose's problem with inflation as "fantasy", i.e. a natural explanation for the low entropy of the post-inflationary universe before the heating of matter to thermal equilibrium sets in to create the "first light" CMB from the "last scattering surface" ~ 400,000 years after the Big Bang that we see in WMAP showing us a 3D flat universe (k = 0 in FRW cosmic metric with Einstein's cosmological constant /\ that I also derive simply). That is, I can resolve Roger Penrose's dilemma of why the irreversible Arrow of Time of the Second Law of Thermodynamics is synchronized to the accelerating expansion of our universe in the dimensionless FRW R(t) trajectory.


When can we give ourselves permission to appeal to a higher authority:
higher than the Scientific Establishment?

Never, unless the advanced beings (Angels and Aliens and Demons) in their fancy flying machines land on the White House lawn. The Scientific Establishment, like at GR 17, is the worst form of authority except for EVERY OTHER! Do you want Usama Bin Laden's authority? Or the Shias in Teheran? Religious authority is dangerous whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim. A Curse on all their Houses as far as I am concerned. Look at the Jewish religious extremists in Israel. The secular Sabras despise them and for good reason. They do not serve in the Army, and yet they cause all the problems! In terms of authority I choose Organized Science over Organized Religion even though the former is also corrupt, it is not as corrupt as most forms of Organized Religion. I see little connection between Religion and Spirituality BTW.


The science establishment has been spooked by the phenomenological problem
ever since Donald Menzel (Navy phenomenologist, Harvard astrophysicist) laid
down the gauntlet with his crude debunking: 'Flying Saucers' (1953).

True.

Wheeler in the '80s ripped into the AAAS Parapsychology Section. Now
Hawking has put another nail in the coffin: physics is an hermitically
closed system.

Yes, that is true. However, Wheeler in his old age has changed since 1980. He is much more interested in consciousness now. Of course he is past 90. He still may reject parapsychology but no matter. Wheeler is like Moses at the edge of The River Jordan.

An historical crisis looms. Death Cults proliferate. The science
establishment maintains a strict head-in-the-sand posture.

Yes, that is true. Most physicists are over-specialized and afraid to ask the Big Questions. Also most of them are in fear of losing their funding if they go too near the fringe. Only Wheeler and Penrose and a few others like Freeman Dyson can get away with it.


The political establishment has made its offer to us: Ron. Have we taken full advantage of this offer?

Not yet, but we will as soon as we understand it more precisely in private Pow Wows in the Inner Sanctum of Skull and Bones in The Den of The Super-Illuminati, The Wizards, Shamans, Alchemists of The Priory - The Real Da Vinci Code to criss-cross Michael Crichton's Time Lines without getting our minds and bodies scrambled inside The Destiny Matrix of the Enchanted Web where Einstein's smooth coherent Reality emerges from the random Virtual Dirac Sub-Stratum. Order out of Chaos. Oil calms the Waters. This is The Cipher of Genesis Decoded as Qabalist Carlo Suares bade me, as Parsifal, to decode in Paris in 1973-7 along with Frank Malina et-al at the Center of The Cyclone whirling about the aether of The High Castle Graal!
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html


And what does Ron offer? Ron offers us Rick. Rick offers us the EBEs. The
EBEs offer us a physical conduit to cosmic intelligence. Are we taking
advantage? Need we wait on a better offer?

Who exactly is "Rick" and why is he important? I have my own hotline to EBE remember?
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/
What does Rick bring to the table here?
Stalin wanted to know how many mechanized divisions The Pope could field. How many equations/devices does Rick have? Of course, The Pope won in The End! ;-)


I am not sure what you mean and we should reserve the details of that for private meetings. Look Dan, the problem is simple in terms of USG - just show them how the saucers really fly with detailed enough theory to make a working model. The closest working model we have may well be Ken Shoulders "charge clusters" if my model for them is correct.

See August 2004 Popular Mechanics p. 77. The tech details are sloppy and inaccurate, but the political point is on target.

It is too soon to tell if I am correct or not, but what I propose is better than what Hal Puthoff proposed for them. Also I have some ideas from my reading of Ray Chiao on how maybe we can use the quantum Hall effect to control the macro-quantum phase of the vacuum coherence to get the desired distributions of positive dark matter and negative dark energy micro-quantum zero point pressures to metric engineer globally faster-than-light weightless warp drive and large traversable wormholes for fast space travel and even time travel to the past where Hawking's WMD infinite blue shift is reversed to a harmless infinite red shift.


We offer the only visible alternative to the Death Cults. That is our
counterintelligence function. Are we fulfilling it?


I am, I don't know about you. You need to tell me details in private meetings. ;-)


Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:36 PM
To: Dan Smith
Subject: Re: eschaton focus group



On Aug 14, 2004, at 6:22 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Gordon,

Why an eschaton? It's just about coherence which demands an historical
closure.

"Coherence" yes in many senses. (wrote Jack)

1. We are in more danger of destroying Earth materially now than ever
before, indeed of destroying the Universe. Read Sir Martin Rees's "Our
Final Hour" in relation to August 4, 2004 Popular Mechanics (flawed
though it may be on secondary technical details). Remember we have
Death Cults on all sides (even extreme right-wing Jews like the ones
that killed Rabin who are the mirror images of Al Qaeda - BTW I spent
several hours with Rabin and Ed Teller ~ 1990 at Rabbi Lipner's house
in San Francisco). These Death Cults are not lacking in IQ and they
want to acquire WMD to destroy everything in Gotterdamerung. This is an
obvious political fact. That's the Dark Side of The Force. The Force is
obviously exotic vacuum with anti-gravity dark energy and gravitating
dark matter as two sides of the same zero point energy density coin.

2. Then there is The Light. Like H.G. Well's in "Things to Come" we
have the "Airmen" in their amazing flying machines the saucers whose
flight shows the reality of metric engineering though not the way Hal
Puthoff proposes to USG DOD Intelligence Community and to Aero Space
Community like Bigelow Aerospace, European Royalty et-al. Hal is
looking for The Right Stuff but in the wrong way. There is complete
consensus that Hal is wasting his time on his theories from the Big
Wigs at GR 17 in Dublin who know about Hal's ideas. They all associated
Hal with NASA's defunct BPP BTW and they all said it was good that NASA
BPP lost its funding because the physics was no damn good - meaning
primarily the sort of theory Hal sold to Nick Cook in "The Hunt for
Zero Point" and to the guy who wrote the Aviation Week and Space
Technology "To The Stars" back in what March 2004? Ditto for the letter
to New Scientists from the anti-Big Bang cosmologists. I was surprised
to hear this reference to NASA BPP independently from several of the
people I spoke to at the Dublin Royal Society without even bringing it
up myself. Mentioning Hal's name was the trigger. On the other hand
Matt Visser who wrote the first metric engineering book "Lorentzian
Wormholes" thinks anyone trying to control zero point energy is a
crackpot so I would be included along with Hal. Of course all of the
mainstream guys do not think flying saucers are real. They reject that
all important evidence. But Matt does not understand the role of vacuum
coherence and how both dark energy and dark matter are the same stuff
of negative and positive pressure respectively. No one at GR 17
understood that. Of course, if vacuum coherence = 0 there is no way to
control zero point energy. Given their assumption they are right,
however, they do not realize that without vacuum coherence there is no
Einstein gravity either! Hal does not understand that as well. The key
is the proper understanding of the emergence of the classical curved
world of local physics from phase ripples in the macro-quantum vacuum
coherence - The Cipher of Genesis.


You describe a new heaven and new earth. Your ARV/RAM circuit is just
my
Ouroboric hyper-dimensional closure. The eschaton is our portal to a
not
easily imagined cosmic consciousness. 'Hieros Gamos' is another term
that
is useful here. Cultures are replete with references to whatever is
'beyond
space & time' (Erewhon) (Jack 1975). We've been dying to get there,
but now
it's just around the corner, especially if that corner is in the Area
51
vortex/complex. We coud ask Judi's Eduardo about that.

This is the probable provenance Rick Doty's EBEs: Charlie, Charlene &
Co.

Shouldn't we be getting Rick on the line? Do you have his number.
Let me
try this email address...


Dan

On Aug 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Aug 15, 2004, at 4:18 PM, Scott Littleton wrote:

Whether the "Visitors, " or what I've come to call, collectively, the "Alien Raj," come from our own future, an alternate future in a parallel dimension/universe, or, as I still suspect, from somewhere relatively nearby in THIS universe and THIS galaxy,

All three are distinctly possible and likely given the very recent discovery of anti-gravity dark energy as the dominant, albeit "virtual" stuff of the multi-verse. Dark energy is the "exotic matter" of Kip Thorne in his mid-1980's star gate wormhole paper triggered by Saul-Paul Sirag and also Alcubierre's early 90's weightless warp drive paper. Little did they, or anyone know, how easy it was to find it. Indeed, it is our "real" form of stuff that is truly exotic - only ~ 4% of the whole. This was the missing link. I only understood it in 2002. The first evidence only came in 1999! Hal Puthoff still does not understand how the zero point energy really works gravitationally. Why? Because he rejects Einstein's theory with tensors and all that and is off on a wild goose chase ALLEGEDLY wasting, I hear, a lot of "black" UFO money over a long time with essentially nothing of relevance to good flying saucer data. I have no idea if these persistent rumors sent to me by more than one source are true. Hal denies what I am told. Hal has never acknowledged the key importance of my basic metric engineering exotic vacuum field equations

Guv + /\zpfguv ~ 0

/\zpf a simple function of the macro-quantum vacuum coherence.

/\zpf > 0 is the repulsive anti-gravitational field zero point energy source of negative pressure

/\zpf < 0 is the attractive gravitational field zero point energy source of positive pressure

/\zpf = 0 is the ordinary non-exotic common sense vacuum that has no "weight", i.e. is not a source or sink of gravitational connection field flux and tidal curvature.

Indeed Puthoff never even defines precisely what he means by "metric engineering" and how his concept applies to the flying saucer data found, for example, on the NIDS website where is a member of the Science Advisory Board.

Note in the Newtonian static limit my equation is simply

Laplacian of the vacuum's gravitational potential energy per unit test particle ~ c^2/\zpf

Puthoff has never written such an equation before me. This equation has nothing to do with the quantum electrodynamic Casimir ZPF force, which in most applications is an obstacle to the objective of metric engineering the fabric of space-time for the kind of advanced exotic military space weapons systems we observe in our skies. So who is fooling who here? I tell it like it is. Dark energy is the key to the economy and technology of the Alien Raj. You are witness to the timeline of my discovery of this. You recall that in the Joe Firmage ISSO days I did not have this idea, but was fumbling in the dark just like Hal Puthoff is doing still today but not admitting it. We did learn from ISSO that no one out there in the New Age alternative energy field is competent. I am not talking about solar, wind and geothermal energy of course, but of all the wackos that we tested and that Puthoff still tests I understand? It's not worth the time and the money.

you're certainly correct in asserting that they've been here for a very long time. My own estimate, based on an assessment of Upper Paleolithic iconography (e.g., the sudden appearance "lenticular" images on cave walls, etc.), is that that they established themselves as Earth's clandestine "colonial" overlords ca. 13,000-15,000 years ago, that is, toward the end of the Pleistocene. Indeed, I suspect that it was their awareness that this planet was on the verge of a fundamental (and rapid) climatological change-the imminent melting of the great icecaps-that initially convinced them to settle in, as they must have been curious to see how the exceedingly primitive, albeit intelligent indigenous inhabitants (i.e., our early modern hominid ancestors) would adapt to this change. Sometime later, the biological (hybridization, DNA-harvesting, etc.) and psychological (e.g., indoctrinating their human subjects with a variety of "religious" ideas, testing our reactions to crop-circles, etc.) experiments began, and have continued to the present, in large part driven by what appears to be an increasingly desperate need for human DNA and/or hybrids. The reasons underlying this need are still unclear. However, I think David Jacobs (see his THE THREAT, 1998) is essentially correct in his assessment of the situation here, even though he still insists that the "Phenomenon" doesn't date back much past the late 19th century.

That you (Jack) could have received a "phone call from the future" in 1953 is not inconsistent from the foregoing hypothesis, especially if, as many serious ufologists strongly suspect, the "Alien Raj" has long since evolved a technology that allows them to manipulate space & time so as to facilitate travel across tens or hundreds of light-years.

I essentially now know how all that works. It is no longer a mystery. Prior to 2002 I did not know. Of course, I was set to work on this back in at least 1953 by a black USG project master minded by Eugene McDermott and based in New Mexico of course - where Richard Doty is today allegedly working for the local coppers - of course. This project was obviously an effect of the Roswell Incident in 1947.


However, this capability has probably yielded a great many other dividends. I've often suspected that the aliens may have been monitoring you (Jack) since early childhood.


They were quite direct about it.
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html
Also with Uri Geller.
Did Hal Puthoff also have direct contact as a child? It's quite possible. He may have repressed that. Hal is definitely part of "the others" as is Russell Targ and all the usual suspects.

"My banner bravely unfurled" Man of La Mancha

"For I am a Pirate King." http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/pirate_king.mid Raise The Jolly Roger!
KING:
Oh, better far to live and die
Under the brave black flag I fly,
Than play a sanctimonious part
With a pirate head and a pirate heart.
Away to the cheating world go you,
Where pirates all are well-to-do;
But I'll be true to the song I sing,
And live and die a Pirate King.
For I am a Pirate King!
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King!
For I am a Pirate King!
ALL:
You are!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
KING:
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King.
ALL:
It is!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
KING:
When I sally forth to seek my prey
I help myself in a royal way.
I sink a few more ships, it's true,
Than a well-bred monarch ought to do;
But many a king on a first-class throne,
If he wants to call his crown his own,
Must manage somehow to get through
More dirty work than e'er I do,
For I am a Pirate King!
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King!
For I am a Pirate King!
ALL:
You are!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
KING:
And it is, it is a glorious thing
To be a Pirate King.
ALL:
It is!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!
Hurrah for the Pirate King!

http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/html/pirates_home.html

It's time now to achieve the impossible dream and reach for the stars and beyond to the eschaton!

"Pour oh pour the Pirate's sherry, fill o fill the Pirate's glass ..."
http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/brandani/pirates_01.mid


In the process, they may have noticed in an alternate timeline what you would discover twenty years later, and then did their best to ensure that you would do the same thing in THIS timeline. Indeed, I've often wondered whether you're still an ongoing, albeit unconscious alien "subject."

I am alien from the neck up. My mind is definitely alien.

Any significant missing-time episodes, etc. in recent years? Or any weird dreams that might indicate that you've been a "guest" of the "Alien Raj" from time to time?

Those aliens got more than they bargained for! That's for sure. ;-)


In any case, I'm currently working on a book that will assess these matters from an anthropological perspective. Tentatively entitled ALIEN RAJ: AN ANTHROPOLOGIST LOOKS AT THE UFO PHENOMENON, it should be finished in about a year. So please stay tuned!

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
FAX (323) 982-0264
http://faculty.oxy.edu/yokatta/

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:55 PM
To: Dan Smith
Cc: Al K.; Alan P.; Bruce M.; Christopher G.; David Williams; Hal P.; John A.; John Brandenburg; Joseph Stefula; Judith Sutter; Nick C.; RAY HUDSON; Ron P.; Saul Paul Sirag; Stephen Bassett; Scott Littleton; Victor Martinez; Dick Farley; David Gladstone; Bill L.; d wanek
Subject: Re: eschaton focus group

PS Real metric engineering of warpdrives and wormholes with time travel
to the past means that in a deep sense reality is closer to The Matrix
movie concept than not. The discovery of dark energy and dark matter
means that the parallel worlds are mostly virtual in both key senses of
the word as "off-mass-shell" and as an emergent self-organizing
macro-quantum holodeck display from a micro-quantum bit substratum
where the algorithms adapt.

On Aug 13, 2004, at 8:32 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Aug 13, 2004, at 2:44 PM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack, et al.,

It does appear that Jack, as usual, is game for most anything. Now
we'll
have to see about the rest. The less we have to bother Ron about
issues of
authorization, the better off we'll be, considering the prime
directive and
all that.

A big issue is voluntarism, given that a salient characteristic of us
creatures is our alleged free will. How does this jibe with the idea
of a
salvation economy, i.e. cosmic plan?

I imagine that we are like the actors in a play, we can only get away
with
so much ad-libbing, and since we don't know the script, we hardly
know what
we get away with.

It's Jazz! Improvise. However in my own timeline I detect a clear
weird pattern.


WRT the eschaton, it can only be marginally voluntary, while being
maximally
participatory.

It does appear that most of you, like Paul Allen, would not mind
participating in a rapture like exercise of 'loosing' our earthly
chains.

What's that about Paul Allen?


Most of us, however, are reluctant to cut short our appointed sojourn
on
Earth. We are happy to hire astronauts to set up bases on Mars. It
is
partly a question of carrot vs. stick. What are the trade-offs
between
Earth and Elsewhere? There are many variables and unknowns to
consider.

Those saucers can go a lot further than Mars in quick time without
propellants.

This issue becomes more problematic if the likely destination is not
the
planet next door, but the universe next door.

But is such concern not academic at this point, i.e. very premature?
Maybe
yes, maybe no.

No, since The Visitors have been here for a long time according to
Scott Littleton's research and according to my own contact.


It depends on the state of the 'technology'. The working assumption
for
most of us is that the technology already exists, but is presently
unavailable. We have a simple choice: physical engineering or social
engineering. I am hardly alone in suggesting the latter. My
reasoning is
both orthodox and unorthodox.

Soviets tried social engineering. The technology is becoming fast
available with some bumps in the road.


I suggest that the primary problem is choreography.

Chorus line!

The Earth was constructed on the basis of a planned obsolescence. It
was
never intended to be our permanent home. Moving day may be just
around the
corner.

Obviously. Childhood's End.


Almost every society has been founded on the assumption of an ultimate
transience. Thus have we been prepared for this inevitability.

Up to this point, a primary portal has been the grave: it's low tech,
and
universally affordable. I know that Jack is hoping to move up-market.

Remember Rabbi Yeshua's Promise.

We
then have the issue of transplanting vs. transmigration. Up to this
point
the choreography has favored the individual transmigration via natural
attrition. But, if Jack and I are right, we soon begin the
transition to a
transplanting scenario, via craft and physical portals. We move from
the
heaven's gate scenario to the stargate scenario. This will be
necessary if
we are to achieve an historical closure relative to our earthly
experience.

Yes, that's what metric engineering is all about. Isn't it odd that
Hal Puthoff has never given a clear definition what he means by
"metric engineering" and what its applications are?


The point is that our future, for the most part, lies elsewhere. Deep
ecologists may wish to remain behind, but their abode will be
transformed
both physically and metaphysically. In either case, life will be
radically
altered. For most of us it will be 'moveon.org'.

Correct. Have brains will travel - that's Fred Alan Wolf's Marching
Song. BTW I just saw Gary Zukav's updated introduction to Dancing Wu
Li Masters. The man is certifiably mad as well as boring. My biggest
mistake was inviting both him and David Finkelstein to Esalen in
January 1976,


The EFG now has only to help choreograph the early evacuation phase.
What
would be our best possible evacuation plan?

Learn how the saucers work, how consciousness is generated and how to
cancel out Hawking's time travel barrier from infinite blue shift to
infinite red shift - a mere fizzle when we engage time warp to the
past.


Our success in this regard
would be expected to hasten the turnover of the relevant technology.

It's happening.

At the outset I would strongly recommend that Jack & Co. should
continue
their promethean quest to steal the 'dark energy' fire from the gods.

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html


But
there is no reason why not, and good reasons why we might choose to
cooperate in this two-pronged endeavor to participate in our cosmic
destiny.

In the meantime, we may let the counter-intelligence chips fall where
they
may.

The Darling Nano Buds of May. Or did you mean Chipman?

PS typo correction to my formula earlier today

(Entropy of Universe)/kB = (Area of World Hologram)/4(Quantum of Area)

= log[1 + /\(Quantum of Area)R(t)^2] ?

This obviously does not get very large.

Back from my titanium implant for artificial tooth transceiver to the
ET's from J. Edgar Hoova and The Nine provided I can find the correct
exotic vacuum bag. :-)

Do I speak in riddles? Surely I jest.

http://qedcorp.com/London/finalepoint.mp3




-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:07 PM
To: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars
Cc: ItalianPhysicsCenter; SarfattiScienceSeminars@YahooGroups. com
Subject: Dan Smith Returns From The Magick Mountain!


bcc

I hope you did not drop one of the stone tablets from The Visitors on
your way down Dan. :-)
BTW you can have a column in a new magazine that may be starting up
soon.

On Aug 13, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack, et al.,

Permit me, please, to use this as an excuse to broach some possibly
new
business.

I have been attempting to reinsert myself into this forum over the
last
several months. The new development is to refine a protocol with Ron
P. for
this purpose.

This is a somewhat delicate matter, which I am trying to simplify so
as not
to make my own communication protocol too complicated. As much as
possible
I would like to keep all of my communication in the open.

I watched Vice Admiral Lowell Jacoby head of DIA on C-Span. I am sure
the good Admiral would not like the way our Paul Murad as "UFOguy" is
filtering this kind of information for him. The Admiral emphasized
replacing "need to know" (left-hand does not know what right-hand is
doing) with a wider more liberal public access especially from
alternative unconventional sources. It's hard to make USG
bureaucracies
imaginative enough to connect the dots to prevent sequels to 911 that
would even be a larger magnitude.

I have been away for two weeks and, before I left, I met separately
with Ron
and Kit.

I have tentatively enlisted Ron's support for the formation of an
eschaton
focus group. This is not going to be easy because I know of no
eschatologists hereabouts. The only ones I know of are
fundamentalists, and
they have their already well established protocols, which do not
include the
likes of me!

Our new magazine will be the mass forum for that. I am hoping to
enlist
Uri Geller as a key creative force in it. He will have a column if he
likes and his images of creative art will be prominently featured.


The new gimmick is that Ron will tell a select audience that I may
not
be
crazy in this regard, contrary to his past comments concerning my
sanity.

We all know you are as crazy Dan as Don Quixote, but are you crazy
enough to be important in saving the world? That is what we are
attempting to do is it not? Did you see the movie "King of Hearts"? In
The Country of The Blind the One-Eyed Man is King as long as wily
Ulysses does not pluck it out.

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/dan.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/USSKron.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/bovines.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/coffee.html
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/Saturn.html



The problem is to justify the change of protocol. I requested that
this be
based on a private admission of an outstanding phenomenological
problem for
the government. This suggesting was rejected on the basis that it
would
subject Ron and others to additional harrassment by ufologists.

Of a most bigoted sort like Wesleyan Methodists!


The counter suggestion was to include the new protocol under the
rubric of
counter-intelligence. The attempts by Ron and others to explain this
rubric
to me have been less than successful, and/or would necessitate
on-going
private communications that would be time consuming.

Let me attempt to put something on the record. It is no secret that
Jerusalem is the focus of much eschatological speculation on the part
of
Jews, Christians and Muslims. It is also no secret that Jerusalem
remains
the focus of political tensions throughout the Middle East and much
of
the
world.

I explain all that in my book "Destiny Matrix" and even more in "Super
Cosmos" as "The Real Da Vinci Code".
Have you gotten in touch with Phil Crane's cousing Robert Dickson
Crane? He can explain much. Ask him about "Tauhid". BTW Read Popular
Mechanics August 2004 on homemade WMD look at p. 77 insert on "dark
energy" - sound familiar?


It is possible that the interjection of a new metaphysical/political
element
into this witches brew might be advantageous for certain clandestine
purposes. I would be happy to do my patriotic duty if this is the
case. No
problem.

The problem would be for the rest of you. How could you participate
effectively in this effort, knowing what I have just told you? This
would
no longer be a serious debate about physics vs. metaphysics. It
would
be a
cover for something else, i.e. a sham. Instead of just Dan being the
useful
idiot, we are now all invited to be useful idiots!

This is not a very subtle problem.

Any suggestions??


Dan

Like public key cryptography?

Better a "useful idiot" than a "useless idiot" that we have too many
of! :-)




-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:44 PM
To: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars
Cc: SarfattiScienceSeminars@YahooGroups. com; ItalianPhysicsCenter
Subject: Flying Saucers, SRI Demystified, Self-Creation Oroborus &
Dan


On Aug 9, 2004, at 1:29 PM, Scott Littleton wrote:

Hi David,

OK, it's an "engineering problem," I've got a question for you: Who
(or what) "engineered" the Great Engineer? That is, the entity that
so carefully designed the universe so that both you and I were
rendered inevitable some 13.5 billion years ago? Surely, he/she/it
or
whatever had to come from somewhere (or something). Or do you
believe
he/she/it, etc. simply appeared sui generis?

Yes, quite possibly IF time travel to the past is what is happening.
Contrary to what Stephen Hawking says officially the Tourists from
the
Future seem to be here and have been for thousands of years. Prime
Directive? Nah! Ideas literally create themselves. This idea was
already discussed in the tape recording Saul-Paul Sirag has of my
meeting with Brendan O Regan, Hal Puthoff, Russell Targ et-al in 1973
and Saul-Paul wrote an opera based on that idea in 1974 that was
produced at Berkeley. More details are in the book "Destiny Matrix" -
this time loop self-creation is basically what I mean by "Destiny
Matrix." Dan Smith prefers this to the WAP in an infinity of
parallel
universe. However, one does not preclude the other actually. The
Destiny Matrix Oroboros scenario explains WHY "The Visitors" are
here,
i.e. WHY "The Alien Raj."

-----------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Littleton [mailto:yokatta@oxy.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:58 PM
To: d1494@copper.net; rainman.hudson@verizon.net;
rc-losee@carolina.rr.com
Subject: RE: RE: The Hyksos, etc.


HI David,

Well, now we're getting onto some firmer ground: you say you're not
positing a deity in anything like the traditional sense. At least
one
that
need not be worshipped and cajoled to cure sick kids, make the crops
grow,
see to it that Suzie falls in love with me, etc. OK, fine, but the
idea of
a Supreme Intelligence, a creating entity of some sort, is still
redolent of
a divinity, even if not an anthropomorphic (or anthropocentric) one.
Are
you suggesting that this whatever-it-is simply wrote the basic
program, as
it were, and then absented itself from the result? If so, it reminds
me of
18th-century Deism, which had such an impact on our Founding Fathers,
including Jefferson & Washington, although the latter's worldview was
also
profoundly shaped by Freemasonry, which wasn't all that incompatible
with
Deism, especially at that time.

When you say the universe "created itself," it seems to me that
you're
implying in different words essentially what I've been saying: that
a
bunch
of random stuff (to put it crudely) happened by chance to come
together in
some vastly larger matrix (i.e., the multiverse) and bingo, we have
the Big
Bang and everything that has followed. That is, the "program" I just
mentioned began to unfold. At this point, "chaos theory" would
appear
to be
relevant, e.g., the so-called "butterfly effect," as even tiny random
events
can have a profound impact on how the "program" unfolds at any given
point
in space-time.

BTW, speaking of the multiverse, to wax speculative to the max-I'm
sure
Jack will have a lot of fun with this one!-I'm beginning to suspect
that our
universe, and probably others as well, may not be an expanding ball,
but
rather an expanding, oblong "pancake" with an overall configuration
fundamentally analogous, albeit at an impossibly vaster level, to a
spiral,
Milky-Way-type galaxy. I even suspect that it may have the
equivalent
of
spiral arms that are slowly rotating around the point where the Big
Bang
occurred, each rotation expanding its overall dimensions. This comes
in part
from observations that there is at least one vast region of space
that
is
lightly populated by galaxies and galactic clusters (I believe it's
sometimes called "the Great Wall" by astonomers); could it be part of
the
visible space between two of the spiral arms (it's probably crammed
with
"dark matter")? To follow this speculation a bit further, these
dimensions
may be roughly proportional to those of a spiral galaxy, in the case
of our
universe, about 30-40 billion light years on its long axis, say, 20
billion
on the shorter axis, and about 15 billion light years "thick."
Moreover, I
suspect that there is probably an infinite number of other universes,
some
of which have different configurations, out beyond ours in all
"directions"
on the same plane (indeed, some of them may be colliding with our
space-time, just as we know that galaxies often collide), as well as
an
equally infinite number of universes on wholly different planes that
intersect our plane; these would be the ones that are separated from
us by
potentially traversable "branes." And yes, I suspect that
non-localized
consciousness is almost everywhere-or at least in this universe-a
part
of
the overall "program," that it can cross the boundaries between
universes,
both on our own and other planes, and that our alien "visitors" are
well
versed in how to manipulate this phenomenon.

I should emphasize that, with the exception of the last sentence of
the
preceding paragraph, the forgoing grand speculation is lightly held.
Indeed, it's simply a highly tentative guess as to what MIGHT be the
case on
the part of an educated layman who's done a bit of reading on the
subject,
and may well be utterly absurd... But it does make some sense to me,
at
least...

Again, back to you, amigo, and

Cheers,
Scott

--Charles Fort

-----Original Message-----
From: d1494@copper.net [mailto:d1494@copper.net]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:00 PM
To: Scott Littleton; d1494@copper.net; rainman.hudson@verizon.net;
rc-losee@carolina.rr.com
Subject: RE: RE: The Hyksos, etc.

Many people feel that any mention of the creation of the universe is
ipso facto referring to GOD and all the attendant superstitions.
I don't believe in that kind of universe. The universe was engineered
to support life- as Ray Hudson seconded before. I don't think that we
are obliged to act any particular way or do anything one way or the
other in order to curry the favor of a deity. I don't think the
creator is a deity actually.



On Aug 15, 2004, at 12:24 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Aug 15, 2004, at 9:59 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack,

The Death Cults are working overtime. They do not stand on ceremony.


I agree 100%.


You give the impression here of doing the latter. You want to continue with
Physics as Usual.

No. I think you misunderstand. I am doing Physics as Unusual.

The real understanding of the physical nature of consciousness, dark energy/matter and the emergence of what we misname the "classical world" of curved space-time is essential to The Mission. The test of real understanding is the spin-off exotic advanced technology that we actually see in the flying saucer phenomenon including the psycho-tronic paranormal mind-control that Colonel Phillip J. Corso et-al wrote about.


Wait. What exactly is it that you want?

Yet to be determined. That is in the process of emerging in Wheeler's "Twenty Questions."

"The Question is: What is The Question?"

I have suggested more money

Is that an offer I can't refuse? :-)

More money spent in the right places is always a good idea. Right now almost all the money for metric engineering of advanced exotic smart space-weapons in the Black Budget is being flushed down the toilet like Halliburtan's exorbitant hotel room fees in the Iraq operation - well not as bad as that of course.

and
better peer review,

Yes, we love our House of Peers. Problem is that there really are no competent peers in this outlaw field. There are some minds who could be when pressed into service with the right information. I mean people like Roger Penrose and a few others of course. Hack minds simply are not be able to connect the dots correctly.

but you have said that these are unnecessary.

No, you misunderstand. I said not necessary for me personally at this time. So far I am a One Man Show. If you want a Chorus Line you need to pay for it. Also their stage sets are expensive - Union wages and benefits for the New Manhattan Project.


What then is your timeline?

3 - 5 years at most - if we have that long.

What is the next concrete step?

WYSIWYG. I am doing it. A detailed gedankenexperiment for weightless warp drive flying saucer --> working toy model. Also my immediate access to any captured alien device we might have as described by Jacques Vallee in "Fastwalker" - since that obviously is not 100% fiction.

How long will it take, and what are the probable results?

Who do you think I am Merlin? The Oracle at Delphi?

Meanwhile, the death cults march on. The doomsday clock keeps ticking.

Indeed.

You are NOT fulfilling your counterintelligence function if you are not
giving heed to Ron. There is no indication that you are presently doing
that.

Huh? Not true as far as I know.

I am relaying to you Ron's suggestion for immediate action. Your response
is to demand a private meeting. What is there to discuss? My counter-offer
is a meeting with Rick .... There is plenty to discuss there.

Like what? I thought he was some Army sergeant on the periphery. Are we talking about the same guy?

The email address that I was given, ..., failed. I am
confident that there are people on this list who can put us in contact with
him.

Rick remains a major loose end in the whole aviary affair. It must be
resolved before we can move further on the political/intelligence front.

You need to fill me in. We can do it privately if need be. You have lost me.

Are you going to continue to filibuster the effort on that front? I don't
filibuster the physics, I urge that you not filibuster the necessary
politics, mundane or otherwise.

What politics? Do you mean I should not make fun of Paul Wolfowitz and his Neo Con Pit Bulls in The China Shop? That's the only conventional politics I am aware of indulging in. What do you mean? Do you mean my chiding of Hal Puthoff & Co to either &*%# or get off The Pot? You speak in Riddle Dan? Do you Jest? Where is The Glory?




Corrected 2nd draft for the official historical record:

On Aug 15, 2004, at 9:08 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

bcc
On Aug 15, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Jack,

I gather that Dublin was witness to a continued hardening of the Physics
arteries.

No not at all. That's too simplistic.

The experimental cosmological/astrophysical physics is going very well! WMAP observations of CMB, Type 1a supernovae of the cosmic antigravity field called "dark energy", blackholes and all that. LIGO, LISA, Gravity Probe B (frame drag) coming online soon. Computer simulations of Einstein's gravity applied to real phenomena making good advances.

Yes, on the pure theory side. M theory strings and loop quantum gravity are basically Laputan and "not even wrong". The pure math is of course interesting, and a few ideas may survive, but basically they are both hype and do not at all deliver on their promise. Nevertheless, Brian Greene's NOVA Elegant Universe good because it has many of the same ideas I have been talking about including when Brian steps inside the telephone booth and talks to ET! http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html Nice that Brian & Co is catching up. ;-)

String theory cannot derive the standard local gauge invariance lepto-quark U(1)SU(2)SU(3) electro-weak-strong model of elementary particles with the vacuum coherent Higgs origin of lepto-quark inertia (pre-hadronic bag) and Einstein's theory of gravity as smooth curved space-time with black hole event horizons and tornado "whirls" of space (gravimagnetic frame drag even without Soviet torsion fields) as a natural limiting case - still handwaving. Loop theory cannot derive Einstein's theory either as a limiting case even though it starts with Einstein's theory but loses it along the way.

Penrose gave the best theory talk putting everything in its proper place in

"Fashion, Faith and Fantasy" that you can see on video online.
http://www.princeton.edu/WebMedia/lectures/

I think I have solved Penrose's problem with inflation as "fantasy", i.e. a natural explanation for the low entropy of the post-inflationary universe before the heating of matter to thermal equilibrium sets in to create the "first light" CMB from the "last scattering surface" ~ 400,000 years after the Big Bang that we see in WMAP showing us a 3D flat universe (k = 0 in FRW cosmic metric with Einstein's cosmological constant /\ that I also derive simply). That is, I can resolve Roger Penrose's dilemma of why the irreversible Arrow of Time of the Second Law of Thermodynamics is synchronized to the accelerating expansion of our universe in the dimensionless FRW R(t) trajectory.


When can we give ourselves permission to appeal to a higher authority:
higher than the Scientific Establishment?

Never, unless the advanced beings (Angels and Aliens and Demons) in their fancy flying machines land on the White House lawn. The Scientific Establishment, like at GR 17, is the worst form of authority except for EVERY OTHER! Do you want Usama Bin Laden's authority? Or the Shias in Teheran? Religious authority is dangerous whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim. A Curse on all their Houses as far as I am concerned. Look at the Jewish religious extremists in Israel. The secular Sabras despise them and for good reason. They do not serve in the Army, and yet they cause all the problems! In terms of authority I choose Organized Science over Organized Religion even though the former is also corrupt, it is not as corrupt as most forms of Organized Religion. I see little connection between Religion and Spirituality BTW.


The science establishment has been spooked by the phenomenological problem
ever since Donald Menzel (Navy phenomenologist, Harvard astrophysicist) laid
down the gauntlet with his crude debunking: 'Flying Saucers' (1953).

True.

Wheeler in the '80s ripped into the AAAS Parapsychology Section. Now
Hawking has put another nail in the coffin: physics is an hermitically
closed system.

Yes, that is true. However, Wheeler in his old age has changed since 1980. He is much more interested in consciousness now. Of course he is past 90. He still may reject parapsychology but no matter. Wheeler is like Moses at the edge of The River Jordan.

An historical crisis looms. Death Cults proliferate. The science
establishment maintains a strict head-in-the-sand posture.

Yes, that is true. Most physicists are over-specialized and afraid to ask the Big Questions. Also most of them are in fear of losing their funding if they go too near the fringe. Only Wheeler and Penrose and a few others like Freeman Dyson can get away with it.


The political establishment has made its offer to us: Ron. Have we taken full advantage of this offer?

Not yet, but we will as soon as we understand it more precisely in private Pow Wows in the Inner Sanctum of Skull and Bones in The Den of The Super-Illuminati, The Wizards, Shamans, Alchemists of The Priory - The Real Da Vinci Code to criss-cross Michael Crichton's Time Lines without getting our minds and bodies scrambled inside The Destiny Matrix of the Enchanted Web where Einstein's smooth coherent Reality emerges from the random Virtual Dirac Sub-Stratum. Order out of Chaos. Oil calms the Waters. This is The Cipher of Genesis Decoded as Qabalist Carlo Suares bade me, as Parsifal, to decode in Paris in 1973-7 along with Frank Malina et-al at the Center of The Cyclone whirling about the aether of The High Castle Graal!
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html


And what does Ron offer? Ron offers us Rick. Rick offers us the EBEs. The
EBEs offer us a physical conduit to cosmic intelligence. Are we taking
advantage? Need we wait on a better offer?

Who exactly is "Rick" and why is he important? I have my own hotline to EBE remember?
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/
What does Rick bring to the table here?
Stalin wanted to know how many mechanized divisions The Pope could field. How many equations/devices does Rick have? Of course, The Pope won in The End! ;-)


I am not sure what you mean and we should reserve the details of that for private meetings. Look Dan, the problem is simple in terms of USG - just show them how the saucers really fly with detailed enough theory to make a working model. The closest working model we have may well be Ken Shoulders "charge clusters" if my model for them is correct.

See August 2004 Popular Mechanics p. 77. The tech details are sloppy and inaccurate, but the political point is on target.

It is too soon to tell if I am correct or not, but what I propose is better than what Hal Puthoff proposed for them. Also I have some ideas from my reading of Ray Chiao on how maybe we can use the quantum Hall effect to control the macro-quantum phase of the vacuum coherence to get the desired distributions of positive dark matter and negative dark energy micro-quantum zero point pressures to metric engineer globally faster-than-light weightless warp drive and large traversable wormholes for fast space travel and even time travel to the past where Hawking's WMD infinite blue shift is reversed to a harmless infinite red shift.


We offer the only visible alternative to the Death Cults. That is our
counterintelligence function. Are we fulfilling it?


I am, I don't know about you. You need to tell me details in private meetings. ;-)


Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:36 PM
To: Dan Smith
Subject: Re: eschaton focus group



On Aug 14, 2004, at 6:22 AM, Dan Smith wrote:


Gordon,

Why an eschaton? It's just about coherence which demands an historical
closure.

"Coherence" yes in many senses. (wrote Jack)

1. We are in more danger of destroying Earth materially now than ever
before, indeed of destroying the Universe. Read Sir Martin Rees's "Our
Final Hour" in relation to August 4, 2004 Popular Mechanics (flawed
though it may be on secondary technical details). Remember we have
Death Cults on all sides (even extreme right-wing Jews like the ones
that killed Rabin who are the mirror images of Al Qaeda - BTW I spent
several hours with Rabin and Ed Teller ~ 1990 at Rabbi Lipner's house
in San Francisco). These Death Cults are not lacking in IQ and they
want to acquire WMD to destroy everything in Gotterdamerung. This is an
obvious political fact. That's the Dark Side of The Force. The Force is
obviously exotic vacuum with anti-gravity dark energy and gravitating
dark matter as two sides of the same zero point energy density coin.

2. Then there is The Light. Like H.G. Well's in "Things to Come" we
have the "Airmen" in their amazing flying machines the saucers whose
flight shows the reality of metric engineering though not the way Hal
Puthoff proposes to USG DOD Intelligence Community and to Aero Space
Community like Bigelow Aerospace, European Royalty et-al. Hal is
looking for The Right Stuff but in the wrong way. There is complete
consensus that Hal is wasting his time on his theories from the Big
Wigs at GR 17 in Dublin who know about Hal's ideas. They all associated
Hal with NASA's defunct BPP BTW and they all said it was good that NASA
BPP lost its funding because the physics was no damn good - meaning
primarily the sort of theory Hal sold to Nick Cook in "The Hunt for
Zero Point" and to the guy who wrote the Aviation Week and Space
Technology "To The Stars" back in what March 2004? Ditto for the letter
to New Scientists from the anti-Big Bang cosmologists. I was surprised
to hear this reference to NASA BPP independently from several of the
people I spoke to at the Dublin Royal Society without even bringing it
up myself. Mentioning Hal's name was the trigger. On the other hand
Matt Visser who wrote the first metric engineering book "Lorentzian
Wormholes" thinks anyone trying to control zero point energy is a
crackpot so I would be included along with Hal. Of course all of the
mainstream guys do not think flying saucers are real. They reject that
all important evidence. But Matt does not understand the role of vacuum
coherence and how both dark energy and dark matter are the same stuff
of negative and positive pressure respectively. No one at GR 17
understood that. Of course, if vacuum coherence = 0 there is no way to
control zero point energy. Given their assumption they are right,
however, they do not realize that without vacuum coherence there is no
Einstein gravity either! Hal does not understand that as well. The key
is the proper understanding of the emergence of the classical curved
world of local physics from phase ripples in the macro-quantum vacuum
coherence - The Cipher of Genesis.


You describe a new heaven and new earth. Your ARV/RAM circuit is just
my
Ouroboric hyper-dimensional closure. The eschaton is our portal to a
not
easily imagined cosmic consciousness. 'Hieros Gamos' is another term
that
is useful here. Cultures are replete with references to whatever is
'beyond
space & time' (Erewhon) (Jack 1975). We've been dying to get there,
but now
it's just around the corner, especially if that corner is in the Area
51
vortex/complex. We coud ask Judi's Eduardo about that.

This is the probable provenance Rick Doty's EBEs: Charlie, Charlene &
Co.

Shouldn't we be getting Rick on the line? Do you have his number.
Let me
try this email address...


Dan