Part II
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:27 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
....
" I met Charles Muses in October 1973 at the Institute for the Study of
Consciousness in Berkeley, CA. This was when the Institute was first being
set up by Arthur Young, who had asked me to be his research associate.
Charles was very keen on the hyperspace idea. Arthur was not so happy with
going beyond the 4 dimensions of spacetime. Arthur encouraged me to read
Eddington's works and finite group theory. In particular, Arthur wanted me
to work out the symmetry group of the tetrahedron. I did this in early 1974,
and found that this group T has 12 elements of rotations, but when
reflections are allowed this is enlarged to the full 24 element group
consisting of all permutations of 4 things (also called the symmetric-4
group S4). This is equivalent to the Octahedral group O of rotations of the
octahedron (and its dual the cube).
In process of generating the group table for O (= S4), I found that 6
cosets of K4 (the Klein-4 group) within S4, seemed to map perfectly
fundamental particle labels. This is because there are 5 classes of elements
in S4 (the number of elements in the classes being 1, 3, 8, 6, and 6). The
first 3 classes correspond to the T (=A4) subgroup of 12 even permutations
and seem to echo the bosonic particles 1 photon, 3 weakons, 8 gluons.
Moreover the odd permutations consisting of the two remaining classes map
onto 3 families of fermions, with two quarks and two leptons in each
family).
This was all finite group modeling, yet I was very intrigued by Muses's
work on hyperspace, especially his paper, "The Amazing 24th Dimension",
published in the *Journal for the Study of Consciousness* (which he edited
for Arthur Young), Vol. 5, No. 1 (1972), pp. 82-24. There Muses describes
the packing of spheres in 24 dimensional space, via the Leech Lattice. There
are 196,560 spheres packed around a central sphere in this maximally dense
packing.
Since S4 is a 24 element group, I thought there might be a connection
between this group and the magical 24-d space. So my next move was to
construct the 24-d group algebra of S4. This is done by regarding the 24
elements of S4 as vectors in a vector space. Moreover, if we make this a
complex vector space, then via various theorems (such as Wedderburn's) we
can see that
C[S4] = M1 + M2 + M3 + M3 + M1
where C[S4] is the complex group algebra of S4, and Mn is the total matrix
algebra of n x n complex matrices. Then the unitary elements within C[S4] is
of necessity the 24-d unitary Lie group:
U = U(1) x U(2) x U(3) x U(3) x U(1)
which we can rewrite as T4 x U(1) x SU(2) x SU(3) x SU(3), and thus we
recover the gauge groups of the standard theory of particle physics (plus
and extra SU(3) which may function as a hyperweak gauge group acting on the
three family labels -- thus breaking CP symmetry -- but this is speculative.
We are still a long way from the Leech lattice in 24-d vector space that
Charles Muses described as important for both physics and consciousness.
There is, of course, one force missing in the above unification --
gravity. In order to make contact with gravity gauge groups (assuming such
an approach makes sense), I went to the double group version of S4, which
could be written as DS4, but I prefer to write it as OD, the octahedral
double group (of the crystallographers). Just as O is a finite subgroup of
SO(3), OD is a finite subgroup of SU(2). In other words, just as SU(2)
double covers SO(3), and we write SO(3) = SU(2)/{1,-1}, so we can write
O = OD/{+1,-1}.
Then if we construct the group algebra of the 48 element OD group, we find
that:
C[OD] = C[O] + M2 + M2 + M4
But this can be written out and reordered as:
M1 + M2 + M3 + M4 + M3 + M2 + M1 + M2
The reason for writing the direct sums of these matrix algebras in this
order is that there is a 1-1 correspondence between these matrix dimensions
and the numbers on the nodes of the extended Coxeter graph for the E7 Lie
algebra (and Coxeter-Weyl group).
1--2--3--4--3--2--1
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That there is indeed a deep and beautiful connection between these two very
different mathematical structures, a finite group algebra and a Lie algebra
is the great discovery of John McKay in 1979. The connection is that the 8-d
center of C[OD] is equivalent to the 8-d Cartan subalgebra of the (infinite
dimensional) extended E7 Lie algebra.
I call these numbers on the Coxeter graph balance numbers because the
positive mirror vectors in the E7 "reflection space" (which Coxeter calls
the kalleidoscope), when lengthened by these balance number factors will all
be in balance -i.e., as vectors they sum to zero. These number then also
define the setting up a a lattice in the 7-d Cartan subalgebra space of the
133 dimensional E7 Lie group. Moreover this lattice generates a binary
error-correcting code -- the Hamming-7 code.
So how do we get to the 24-d Leech lattice? Well, the E7 lattice is a
sub-lattice of the E8 lattice in the Cartan subalgebra of the 248-d E8 Lie
algebra. And this E8 lattice generates the Hamming-8 code.
This is important for the E8 x E8 heterotic superstring theory. The
lattice structure in this Lie algebra provides for the "anomaly
cancellations" for the heterotic string theory. And it was this even-self
dual lattice structure that provides this "anomaly cancellation". What
physicists call anomaly cancellation is, in effect, what the mathematicians
call error-correcting -- every even-self dual lattice corresponds to an even
self-dual error-correciting code."
Physical reality as software? At least the BIT part?
"Here's where the 24-d Leech lattice comes in: the Leech lattice is also
an error-correcting code lattice; in fact it is the lattice for the even
self-dual 24-bit Golay code. This code can be generated by three copies of
the E8 lattice: E8 + E8 + E8. This is important because in the heterotic
string theory, the bosons see the full 26 dimensions of the original 26-d
string theory of 1970, in which the fermions see only the 10 dimensions of
the superstring theory of 1971. Since the strings sweep out a 2-d world
sheet, it is the transverse vibrations of this world sheet that must account
for the particle states. The bosonic transverse vibrations are in a 24-d
space, while the fermionic transverse vibrations are in an 8-d space. The
24-d space has the Leech lattice corresponding to the Golay code (or E8 + E8
+ E8 lattice), while the 8-d fermionic vibratory space corresponds to the
Hamming-8 code of the a single E8 lattice. The E8 + E8 lattice (16-d)
interpolates between the Leech lattice and the single E8 lattice in the
lattice direct sum E8 + E8 + E8, from which one can derive the 24-d Leech
lattice.
So although, my 24-d group algebra C[O] seemed to contain much of the
structure of the standard model of particle physics, it did not make direct
contact with the 24-d Leech lattice. However, there is a kind of apotheosis
for the E7 Lie algebra (which is closely associated with C[OD] via McKay's
correspondence (mentioned above)).
The E8 x E8 heterotic string theory is just one of five competing string
theories. But since 1995, due to the work of Edward Witten (and others)
there is an overarching theory called M-theory which unifies the 5 competing
string theories as subtheories. Moreover, the 11-d supergravity theory (of
point particles is contained as a subtheory of 11-d M-theory. As a
consequence E7 is brought in as the basic symmetry group of the ll-d theory.
So I feel that I was barking up the right tree after all. My starting
point in all this was the work I did at the ISC under the influence (in
somewhat different direction) of Arthur Young and Charles Muses.
In any case, it is now abundantly clear that Muses's fascination with
hyperspace in general and the 24-d Leech lattice in particular was a move in
the right directing for advance in physics.
I would even say that Muses's speculation that consciousness should be
modelled via hyperdimensional mathematics is on the right track. My approach
to this is deeply involved in E7 and indeed in the complete set of A-D-E
Coxeter graphs.
This is written up in great detail in my appendix paper"Consciousness: a
Hyperspace View" in Jeffrey Mishlove's book, *Roots of Consciousness* (2nd
Edition), Marlowe, 1993.
A summary (and update) is "A Mathematical Strategy for a Theory of
Consciousness" pp, 579-588 of *Toward a Science of Consciousness: the First
Tucson Discussions and Debates*, edited by S.R. Hameroff, A.W. Kaszniak, &
A.C. Scott (MIT, 1996).
I should mention that Jeffery Mishlove also worked with Arthur Young at
the ISC, and interacted with Charles Muses there and elsewhere. And there is
material on both Charles Muses and Arthur Young his book *Roots of
Consciousness*
You can find out more the McKay correspondence between finite subgroups
of SU(2) and Lie groups at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ADE.html
where John McKay has the short paper "A Rapid Introduction to ADE Theory."
There is a reference to *Roots of Consciousness* at the end of McKay's
paper.
My mathematician friend Tony Smith had sent McKay of copy of my long
appendix paper of 1993. So that is apparently why McKay refers to *Roots of
Consciousness*
BTW: Tony Smith has also become interested in the work of Charles Muses, and
you can find some of Tony's thinking on this in the long paper "Del Pezzo
Surfaces and the A-D-E series" at:
http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/NDxNDalg.html
On Superstring theory, see the November issue of *Scientific American* for
an interview with Brian Greene, who wrote *The Elegant Universe* and is
hosting a Nova series on string theory. Parts I & II on Oct. 28, Part III on
Nov. 4.
All for now.
Saul-Paul
Correct me if I am wrong Saul-Paul but what is your picture of the connection of this group structure to consciousness. Do you have in mind orthodox quantum measurement theory with the results of measurement being "eigenvalues" along lines of Wigner & Stapp i.e. "collapse." I have argued against that view for consciousness. However, the A-D-E structure also applies to catastrophies and in my picture there is a MACRO Q-BIT landscape in ordinary space. Think of a giant Bohmian real quantum potential Q in ordinary space made from PSI(x) the coherent order parameter that is literally the physical mind field. This PSI may have a fractal structure. Actually what we have is not PSI(x) but a wavelet transform PSI(x,L) at scale L and so we have a family of complex functions PSI at different scales L and there are topology changes of this what sheaf of landscapes with coupling at different scales - gets very complex and that's I think how V.I. Arnold's theory of singularities come in. Indeed the dynamics of the mental landscape, say in the real representation of Q(x,L) ~Q(x,L)^-1 Grad^2Q(x,L) (or maybe the wave propagation generalization) can actually be pictured in computer simulations allowing us to literally read thoughts! There is a great simplification in that the MACRO-QUANTUM mental field of the living mind in my theory is a local complex field in ordinary 3D space and a lot of its features can be pictured in terms of the dynamics of the real MACRO-QUANTUM potential Q. Of course both the amplitude and phase of PSI will also have physical importance. Since MACRO-QUANTUM PSI is literally a fusion of IT and qubit in the condensate one has to ask if there is any analog to a localized ball rolling on it as there is in micro-quantum theory. The answer I think is no. But there is a distributed say electric dipole moment IT distribution D(x,L) in two-way relation to the BIT PSI(x,L).
D(x,L) at some scale L will be directly related to nerve impulse firing patterns for example. On smaller scales to MRI and so on.
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 12:02 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:27 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
"On Charles A. Muses (1919-2000) and Hyperspace:
Here is a statement I wrote up as an announcement of a talk Charles Muses
gave at the Parapsychology Research Group in San Francisco, December 1,
1986.
The Parapsychology of Time
In 1967 quantum physicist and Nobel laureate Eugene P. Wigner predicted
a convergence of psychology and physics, in his book *Symmetries and
Reflections*.
Jack commented:
Wigner accepted Von Neumann's and London's notion of "collapse" of the micro-quantum information wave.
Bohm and Hiley in "The Undivided Universe" show why "collapse" is an illusion. It is a muddled idea.
Any attempt to connect "consciousness" with "collapse" is a badly mistaken idea IMHO even though many of my
heroes like John Wheeler have advocated it. Great men make great mistakes. The modern theory of "decoherence"
by W. Zurek also shows why "collapse" is really only a superficial description. You can say "as if collapse" in a
crude sense. There is no "collapse" in the "many worlds" approach either.
The basic simple insight missed by Wigner, Stapp, Wheeler, Penrose et-al is that the living conscious mind is a BIG THING. It's not like the wave of a single electron or even a small number of electrons. As P.W. Anderson says
"More is different."
For Penrose to think that a "single graviton" has anything to do with the creation of a conscious moment is completely absurd IMHO even though Penrose is a great mathematical genius no doubt about it.
While the conscious mind is a BIG THING it is not a classical physics thing.
Stapp is correct on that score. Also Stapp is correct on making the distinction between "rocklike things" and "thoughtlike things" that correspond to Wheeler's "IT" and "BIT", to Bohm's "hidden variable" and "pilot wave", to "Flesh" and "Word", to "material" and "mental."
The conscious mind is a MACRO-QUANTUM thing not a micro-quantum thing.
The laws of MACRO-QUANTUM things are not the same as the laws of micro-quantum things.
More is different.
The laws of micro-quantum things are
1. A linear nonlocal unitary dynamical equation of motion in configuration (or phase) space for the wave (or the Wigner density) when there is "entanglement."
I mean this in the sense of second-quantized theory in Fock occupation number space where the Hamiltonian is a linear operator in Fock space even though configuration space representations look nonlinear as in Hartree-Fock theory for example.
2. Signal locality, i.e. EPR entanglement cannot be used as a stand-alone communication channel. It can be used with classical signals for information storage and processing like in quantum computing, cryptography and teleportation. This is called "passion at a distance" by Abner Shimony.
Note A: The projection operator formalism, associated with "collapse", works well pragmatically for simple particle beams like in the Stern-Gerlach experiment.
Note B: Antony Valentini has clarified "passion at a distance" as an artifact of "sub-quantal" equilibrium in which uncontrollable quantum randomness is viewed, as in Vigier's models, as a sub-quantal Brownian motion. In this case signal-locality is only found in the Brownian case, not in "colored" noise situations of "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" open pumped complex systems. No living system with a conscious mind can be closed in maximal randomness at any level classical, quantum or sub-quantum. Therefore, "signal-nonlocality" is a necessary condition for life as Brian Josephson first glimpsed in his "Biological Use of Nonlocality" with Fontini Pallikari.
The sub-quantal Brownian noise case is the Born probability distribution with signal locality, i.e. all reduced quantum density matrices for the parts of entangled wholes are completely random in the sense that they do not depend on control parameters of distant parts to which the part in question is entangled by the EPR effect.
This is what is entailed by what Stapp calls "the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory."
An instability in a micro-quantum ground state for real on-mass-shell quanta, or in the vacuum for virtual off-mass-shell quanta makes a relative non-classical entropy lowering phase transition to an emergent more complex order via the formation of a boson mode (if initially a fermion system) that condenses into a much smaller volume of the original phase space. This is a non-classical phase transition from micro-quantum stuff to MACRO-QUANTUM STUFF (either real or virtual).
MACRO-QUANTUM THINGS do not obey "the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory" because of what P.W. Anderson calls "generalized phase rigidity".
The latter in the special case of unstable quantum field theory of electrons (at least if not lepto-quarks in general) in globally flat space-time leads directly to Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" for the emergence of Einstein's c-number curved space-time "geometrodynamics" along with the observed unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields out of the MACRO-QUANTUM PARTIAL COHERING of the formerly completely random micro-quantum zero point fluctuations of all the quantum fields of the standard model or of its string theory generalizations to hyperspace and M-theory.
This is highly scale-dependent. The non-gravitating non-exotic MACRO-QUANTUM vacuum is completely coherent with zero residual random micro-quantum zero-point fluctuations at the FRW scale. However the new precision cosmology shows that only at most 4% of the universe at that scale in non-exotic. 96% is exotic - approximately 70% anti-gravitates as "dark energy" and approximately 26% percent gravitates as non-hadronic non-radiation non-lepton "dark matter."
In general the dynamics of MACRO-QUANTUM THINGS is "Landau-Ginzburg" not Schrodinger-Dirac i.e.
NONLINEAR LOCAL NONUNITARY for a ROBUST ground state (or vacuum) "wave" with "generalized Goldstone phase rigidity" that completely disobeys the projection operator formalism of orthodox micro-quantum measurement theory!
The living conscious mind is such a MACRO-QUANTUM THING with the signal-nonlocality that Dick Bierman sees in his "presponse data".
The local GIANT MIND WAVE is coupled in "two-way relation" (Bohm & Hiley's term) to the 10^18 hydrophobically caged electron qubits at the sub-microtubular level made popular by Stu Hameroff. Max Tegmark has completely shot down the Hameroff-Penrose "single-graviton collapse" model not of a single electron qubit inside the cage, but of the superposition of the heavy dimer 2-state configurations. Every nano-technologist knows that classical mechanics works for the molecular configurations - this is the Born-Oppenheimer approximation from me/mp ~ 10^-3. This boundary has been pushed with atom interference, but I doubt you can have that for the dimers?
Tuesday, October 21, 2003
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:06 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
bcc
Thanks Saul-Paul
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:27 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
On Charles A. Muses (1919-2000) and Hyperspace:
Here is a statement I wrote up as an announcement of a talk Charles Muses
gave at the Parapsychology Research Group in San Francisco, December 1,
1986.
The Parapsychology of Time
In 1967 quantum physicist and Nobel laureate Eugene P. Wigner predicted
a convergence of psychology and physics, in his book *Symmetries and
Reflections*.
For some years Dr. Charles Muses has investigated both consciousness and
higher dimensionality. Specifically, he has worked with sphere-packing in
higher dimensions by means of hyper number,
This would seem to be relevant of lattice models for the bosonic dimensions, what about the super-symmetry fermionic dimensions of M-theory?
some properties of which he will
discuss in the parapsychological context. He has done experimental work in
states of higher awareness and has proposed that the voluntary calling forth
of such such states is a keystone in coming stages of human evolutionary
advance.
Dr. Muses received his Ph.D. in philosophy from Columbia University. He
has also studied mathematics, cybernetics, and physics. He has travelled
widely in his investigations of shamanistic and other spiritual practices.
He edited the *Journal for the Study of Consciousness* (1968-1973) and was
co-editor with Arthur Young of the book, *Consciousness and Reality* (1972).
In 1985 he published the books *Destiny and Control in Human Systems* and
*The Lion Path*.
I met Charles Muses in October 1973 at the Institute for the Study of
Consciousness in Berkeley, CA. This was when the Institute was first being
set up by Arthur Young, who had asked me to be his research associate.
See "The Star Gate Conspiracy" by Picknett & Prince. Again one cannot take all in that book on face value uncritically.
Young probably knew Eugene McDermott - see my book "Destiny Matrix". Did they know Leo Strauss at the University of Chicago?
Charles was very keen on the hyperspace idea. Arthur was not so happy with
going beyond the 4 dimensions of spacetime. Arthur encouraged me to read
Eddington's works and finite group theory. In particular, Arthur wanted me
to work out the symmetry group of the tetrahedron. I did this in early 1974,
and found that this group T has 12 elements of rotations, but when
reflections are allowed this is enlarged to the full 24 element group
consisting of all permutations of 4 things (also called the symmetric-4
group S4). This is equivalent to the Octahedral group O of rotations of the
octahedron (and its dual the cube).
In process of generating the group table for O (= S4), I found that 6
cosets of K4 (the Klein-4 group) within S4, seemed to map perfectly
fundamental particle labels. This is because there are 5 classes of elements
in S4 (the number of elements in the classes being 1, 3, 8, 6, and 6). The
first 3 classes correspond to the T (=A4) subgroup of 12 even permutations
and seem to echo the bosonic particles 1 photon, 3 weakons, 8 gluons.
Moreover the odd permutations consisting of the two remaining classes map
onto 3 families of fermions, with two quarks and two leptons in each
family).
I played a catalytic role here. I forget exactly what happened then? Saul-Paul please put in the details.
Was I playing off your idea of the Klein group and some wacky Cabala analogy having to do with
Carlo Suares back then in the 70's. I recall I was playing with the Young Diagrams from H. Weyl's
"Theory of Groups in Quantum Mechanics" and his point about the finite group Sn skeleton to all the continuous Lie Groups.
I saw that the column diagrams were obviously fermions, the rows bosons and in-between suggested parastatistics.
You saw that the cosets of S4 fit the standard model with 3 generations. That was a nice insight.
This was all finite group modeling, yet I was very intrigued by Muses's
work on hyperspace, especially his paper, "The Amazing 24th Dimension",
published in the *Journal for the Study of Consciousness* (which he edited
for Arthur Young), Vol. 5, No. 1 (1972), pp. 82-24. There Muses describes
the packing of spheres in 24 dimensional space, via the Leech Lattice. There
are 196,560 spheres packed around a central sphere in this maximally dense
packing.
Since S4 is a 24 element group, I thought there might be a connection
between this group and the magical 24-d space. So my next move was to
construct the 24-d group algebra of S4. This is done by regarding the 24
elements of S4 as vectors in a vector space. Moreover, if we make this a
complex vector space, then via various theorems (such as Wedderburn's) we
can see that
C[S4] = M1 + M2 + M3 + M3 + M1
where C[S4] is the complex group algebra of S4, and Mn is the total matrix
algebra of n x n complex matrices. Then the unitary elements within C[S4] is
of necessity the 24-d unitary Lie group:
U = U(1) x U(2) x U(3) x U(3) x U(1)
which we can rewrite as T4 x U(1) x SU(2) x SU(3) x SU(3), and thus we
recover the gauge groups of the standard theory of particle physics (plus
and extra SU(3) which may function as a hyperweak gauge group acting on the
three family labels -- thus breaking CP symmetry -- but this is speculative.
Remind me what is T4?
We are still a long way from the Leech lattice in 24-d vector space that
Charles Muses described as important for both physics and consciousness.
You were working for the "consciousness" side from Piaget's idea that K4 described some of the functional aspects of learning in kids. Is that correct? In that case, the group structure was pure phenomenology from the empirical study of certain psychological tests. Correct? I mean no physics model here as yet - except by some kind of formal analogy.
There is, of course, one force missing in the above unification --
gravity.
There you need Diff(4) from breaking the 4-parameter translation subgroup of the 10 parameter Poincare group. Gravity as curved spacetime is a broken symmetry of global translational invariance. The Poincare group, in turn, is from breaking I suppose a 5-parameter subgroup of the 15 parameter conformal group of the light cone used in Penrose's "twistors." One parameter is dilation. I forget - what are the other 4? What is the physical interpretation of the 5 additional generators of the Conformal group Lie algebra? 4-momentum from translation sub-group and space-time rotations from 6-parameter Lorentz sub-group. What are the others? Shipov in his torsion theory seems to want to break the symmetry of the 6 Lorentz group parameters to get the torsion twists generalization of space-time rotations! That makes sense actually. What about those 5 conformal generators?
Starting from 15 parameter conformal group of the light cone,
C(15) = ?(5) T(4)O(1,3)
Is ?(5) = D(1)?(4)?
D(1) a one parameter dilation whose breaking of symmetry introduces the rest mass m into E^2 = (mc2)^2 + (pc)^2 mass shell
What are the 4 missing generator "charges" to add to 4-momentum and space-time rotations?
"Breaking symmetry" in this context means that the vacuum does not have the symmetry of the dynamical action. I mean "More is different" spontaneous symmetry breaking not dynamical symmetry breaking by adding weird terms to the action of the local field theories. When you locally gauge you restore the symmetry of the action, though not the vacuum.
4-momentum local gauging -> Einstein gravity compensating dynamical field that also spontaneously breaks global flatness of the vacuum, i.e. tidal tensor curvature not locally eliminated the way the non-tensor g-force connection for parallel transport can be.
Lorentz group local gauging -> Shipov torsion compensating field adds the dislocation twist to space-time.
What about the dilatation and the 4 other things? What are they physically? They should already be there in global special relativity without gravity hidden as rest masses of quantum fields in some way?
OK in my theory, gravity comes from ripples in Goldstone phase, and exotic vacuum dark energy/matter come from ripples in Higgs field where
LOCAL MACRO-QUANTUM VACUUM COHERENCE ODLRO ORDER PARAMETER = PSI(x) = Higgs Field(x) e^i(Goldstone Phase(x))
Higgs Field = |PSI|
So dilation is |PSI| -> constant |PSI|
This is physical here since |PSI|^2 is the density of virtual electron-positron bound states in the vacuum condensate. Dilation symmetry is broken here.
The 4 other "charge" generators of the conformal group, must, therefore, be the 4-gradient of the Higgs Field! That sort of makes physical sense. Will there be a compensating gauge field?
to be continued
bcc
Thanks Saul-Paul
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:27 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
On Charles A. Muses (1919-2000) and Hyperspace:
Here is a statement I wrote up as an announcement of a talk Charles Muses
gave at the Parapsychology Research Group in San Francisco, December 1,
1986.
The Parapsychology of Time
In 1967 quantum physicist and Nobel laureate Eugene P. Wigner predicted
a convergence of psychology and physics, in his book *Symmetries and
Reflections*.
For some years Dr. Charles Muses has investigated both consciousness and
higher dimensionality. Specifically, he has worked with sphere-packing in
higher dimensions by means of hyper number,
This would seem to be relevant of lattice models for the bosonic dimensions, what about the super-symmetry fermionic dimensions of M-theory?
some properties of which he will
discuss in the parapsychological context. He has done experimental work in
states of higher awareness and has proposed that the voluntary calling forth
of such such states is a keystone in coming stages of human evolutionary
advance.
Dr. Muses received his Ph.D. in philosophy from Columbia University. He
has also studied mathematics, cybernetics, and physics. He has travelled
widely in his investigations of shamanistic and other spiritual practices.
He edited the *Journal for the Study of Consciousness* (1968-1973) and was
co-editor with Arthur Young of the book, *Consciousness and Reality* (1972).
In 1985 he published the books *Destiny and Control in Human Systems* and
*The Lion Path*.
I met Charles Muses in October 1973 at the Institute for the Study of
Consciousness in Berkeley, CA. This was when the Institute was first being
set up by Arthur Young, who had asked me to be his research associate.
See "The Star Gate Conspiracy" by Picknett & Prince. Again one cannot take all in that book on face value uncritically.
Young probably knew Eugene McDermott - see my book "Destiny Matrix". Did they know Leo Strauss at the University of Chicago?
Charles was very keen on the hyperspace idea. Arthur was not so happy with
going beyond the 4 dimensions of spacetime. Arthur encouraged me to read
Eddington's works and finite group theory. In particular, Arthur wanted me
to work out the symmetry group of the tetrahedron. I did this in early 1974,
and found that this group T has 12 elements of rotations, but when
reflections are allowed this is enlarged to the full 24 element group
consisting of all permutations of 4 things (also called the symmetric-4
group S4). This is equivalent to the Octahedral group O of rotations of the
octahedron (and its dual the cube).
In process of generating the group table for O (= S4), I found that 6
cosets of K4 (the Klein-4 group) within S4, seemed to map perfectly
fundamental particle labels. This is because there are 5 classes of elements
in S4 (the number of elements in the classes being 1, 3, 8, 6, and 6). The
first 3 classes correspond to the T (=A4) subgroup of 12 even permutations
and seem to echo the bosonic particles 1 photon, 3 weakons, 8 gluons.
Moreover the odd permutations consisting of the two remaining classes map
onto 3 families of fermions, with two quarks and two leptons in each
family).
I played a catalytic role here. I forget exactly what happened then? Saul-Paul please put in the details.
Was I playing off your idea of the Klein group and some wacky Cabala analogy having to do with
Carlo Suares back then in the 70's. I recall I was playing with the Young Diagrams from H. Weyl's
"Theory of Groups in Quantum Mechanics" and his point about the finite group Sn skeleton to all the continuous Lie Groups.
I saw that the column diagrams were obviously fermions, the rows bosons and in-between suggested parastatistics.
You saw that the cosets of S4 fit the standard model with 3 generations. That was a nice insight.
This was all finite group modeling, yet I was very intrigued by Muses's
work on hyperspace, especially his paper, "The Amazing 24th Dimension",
published in the *Journal for the Study of Consciousness* (which he edited
for Arthur Young), Vol. 5, No. 1 (1972), pp. 82-24. There Muses describes
the packing of spheres in 24 dimensional space, via the Leech Lattice. There
are 196,560 spheres packed around a central sphere in this maximally dense
packing.
Since S4 is a 24 element group, I thought there might be a connection
between this group and the magical 24-d space. So my next move was to
construct the 24-d group algebra of S4. This is done by regarding the 24
elements of S4 as vectors in a vector space. Moreover, if we make this a
complex vector space, then via various theorems (such as Wedderburn's) we
can see that
C[S4] = M1 + M2 + M3 + M3 + M1
where C[S4] is the complex group algebra of S4, and Mn is the total matrix
algebra of n x n complex matrices. Then the unitary elements within C[S4] is
of necessity the 24-d unitary Lie group:
U = U(1) x U(2) x U(3) x U(3) x U(1)
which we can rewrite as T4 x U(1) x SU(2) x SU(3) x SU(3), and thus we
recover the gauge groups of the standard theory of particle physics (plus
and extra SU(3) which may function as a hyperweak gauge group acting on the
three family labels -- thus breaking CP symmetry -- but this is speculative.
Remind me what is T4?
We are still a long way from the Leech lattice in 24-d vector space that
Charles Muses described as important for both physics and consciousness.
You were working for the "consciousness" side from Piaget's idea that K4 described some of the functional aspects of learning in kids. Is that correct? In that case, the group structure was pure phenomenology from the empirical study of certain psychological tests. Correct? I mean no physics model here as yet - except by some kind of formal analogy.
There is, of course, one force missing in the above unification --
gravity.
There you need Diff(4) from breaking the 4-parameter translation subgroup of the 10 parameter Poincare group. Gravity as curved spacetime is a broken symmetry of global translational invariance. The Poincare group, in turn, is from breaking I suppose a 5-parameter subgroup of the 15 parameter conformal group of the light cone used in Penrose's "twistors." One parameter is dilation. I forget - what are the other 4? What is the physical interpretation of the 5 additional generators of the Conformal group Lie algebra? 4-momentum from translation sub-group and space-time rotations from 6-parameter Lorentz sub-group. What are the others? Shipov in his torsion theory seems to want to break the symmetry of the 6 Lorentz group parameters to get the torsion twists generalization of space-time rotations! That makes sense actually. What about those 5 conformal generators?
Starting from 15 parameter conformal group of the light cone,
C(15) = ?(5) T(4)O(1,3)
Is ?(5) = D(1)?(4)?
D(1) a one parameter dilation whose breaking of symmetry introduces the rest mass m into E^2 = (mc2)^2 + (pc)^2 mass shell
What are the 4 missing generator "charges" to add to 4-momentum and space-time rotations?
"Breaking symmetry" in this context means that the vacuum does not have the symmetry of the dynamical action. I mean "More is different" spontaneous symmetry breaking not dynamical symmetry breaking by adding weird terms to the action of the local field theories. When you locally gauge you restore the symmetry of the action, though not the vacuum.
4-momentum local gauging -> Einstein gravity compensating dynamical field that also spontaneously breaks global flatness of the vacuum, i.e. tidal tensor curvature not locally eliminated the way the non-tensor g-force connection for parallel transport can be.
Lorentz group local gauging -> Shipov torsion compensating field adds the dislocation twist to space-time.
What about the dilatation and the 4 other things? What are they physically? They should already be there in global special relativity without gravity hidden as rest masses of quantum fields in some way?
OK in my theory, gravity comes from ripples in Goldstone phase, and exotic vacuum dark energy/matter come from ripples in Higgs field where
LOCAL MACRO-QUANTUM VACUUM COHERENCE ODLRO ORDER PARAMETER = PSI(x) = Higgs Field(x) e^i(Goldstone Phase(x))
Higgs Field = |PSI|
So dilation is |PSI| -> constant |PSI|
This is physical here since |PSI|^2 is the density of virtual electron-positron bound states in the vacuum condensate. Dilation symmetry is broken here.
The 4 other "charge" generators of the conformal group, must, therefore, be the 4-gradient of the Higgs Field! That sort of makes physical sense. Will there be a compensating gauge field?
to be continued
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 10:29 AM, rtenore wrote:
"Hello, Jack.
Nicht danke - ich habe kein nottink.
I thank you for the compliment of proclaiming me to be the
highly-intelligent hacker Indrid Cold. Actually, I'm not that clever."
Yes, I corrected that error. It was my unintentional slip because I was having problems sending with pacbell.
It happens a few times a year because I multi-task very fast. You know I got turbo-charged upstairs in 1953
when I was "Taken"! :-) JOKE GRIN - well who really knows?
" I
think that Indrid Cold went back to Lanulos, or wherever he flew in from.
Yes, I did send that message out about Wheeler's anti-PSI stance. I wanted
to make sure that your other readers would see it. Yes, it's true that some
of your emails use the blind cc's, while others have sent the addresses out
in the clear. So I did nothing really clever here - just a "cut and paste."
I tried to send it using my mail server at debunker.com (hosted by Lanset),
but it complained 'too many recipients." So I tried pacbell, and voila.
As for this "trixcleverspacealien", I know nothing about him, her, or it.
Perhaps you've been hacked by the Illuminati? :)"
I am all that is left of them. Saul-Paul too. Also Stephen Schwartz! :-)
re: http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
http://qedcorp.com/APS/WheelerAustin.ppt
"I tried to look at your advertised entertainment below, but even though I
have DSL and it is working OK, somehow nothing comes up for me. - Hold the
presses - as I am typing this, the first page of your PPT came up, after
about 10 mins. Are you looking to set a world record in internet bandwidth
use?"
Something is wrong with your system. The Quick-Time file is 10 megs, the Power Point is 8 Megs. But with streaming that should not matter much.
It loads instantly on Safari on my MAC with DSL. One can see the streaming ahead of the presentation on the meter provided. My brother got it on his windows machine without waiting for 10 minutes. At least 2 people told me this AM they had no such problem downloading. Maybe there are a large number of people simultaneously downloading it at the time you tried? Yours is the only such complaint so far.
"You are correct, I am not a physicist and do not claim to be. However, I do
know that the hypotheses most likely to be true are those agreed upon by a
majority concensus of professional physicists."
Red Herring. Irrelevant. True, but irrelevant.
"It's not an infallible guide
to truth - nothing is - but it's the best we have. And I'm perfectly willing
to concede that there's a possibility that good old Sarfatti may indeed hit
upon some important discovery in physics that everyone else has missed.
These things happen occasionally. That 'dark energy' and 'vacuum energy'
stuff is bizarre beyond belief, but it seems to be good physics."
It's only bizzarre to you because you do not understand enough physics. It's quite ordinary to a physicist who understands both the equivalence principle and the uncertainty principle and who has read April 2003 Physics Today.
"The
mainstream of physics has embraced it, in all its strangeness. The Casimir
effect is undeniably real. Perhaps if you play around with that wild stuff
long enough, you may hit upon pay dirt."
There is no "perhaps" if you are able to understand http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov IN ITS FULLNESS. I could be wrong of course. If not, it would not be science.
"(Or you may hit nothing, no matter
how long you try.) Kepler was a half-crazy astrologer, "
Newton was an Alchemist and very cruel to his competitors like Hooke. He was almost as bad as the Trotksyite in Neo Con Cloak, Stephen Schwartz,, author of "The Two Faces of Islam." :-)
"but his good work was unbelievably good,"
The comparison of Newton with Schwartz stops there. :-)
"and Tesla for all his brilliance was more than a little wacky. Does that mean that every scientist who goes off the deep end finds something valuable? Hell, no! But occasionally somebody who goes out on a limb sees something that others didn't. Only time will tell if what you're
doing will have any lasting value to science. However, I'd have a lot more
confidence in it if UFOs and ESP didn't keep popping up. That suggests to me
that your 'nonsense filter' needs to be seriously tightened."
You can battle that out with Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis and Bruce Maccabee on UFOs and with Nobel Prize Laureate Brian Josephson on ESP. What you do not get is that thinking about UFOs and ESP is a great mental exercise, a gedankenexperiment, for getting out of the box to make the breakthrough - see Brian Greene in latest Sci Am on 11 Dimensions. Your mind is much too closed and that is the problem with all of you pro-Skeptics. On the other side the New Age starry-eyed believers are too open. Both camps do not understand enough physics and science in general. I consider both sides extremists with me in the middle.
"Still, I doubt very much if Wheeler would agree with you when you say:
'Our mind is a GIANT
MACRO-quantum bit local wave in two-way relation with electrical
dipole configurations that couple to nerve impulses, chemical
messengers etc. Direct back-reaction from the electric dipoles to this
mind wave generates inner experience.'"
Irrelevant. For one thing Wheeler is now 93 and is not the man he used to be - though he is still fantastic. However, if I had a few hours with him I am sure he would understand what I am proposing, which is not very far out BTW but it is quite mainstream in condensed matter physics.
"You should ask him about that."
Do you think the mind is a little bitsy teensy weensy micro-quantum thing? Speak for yourself. :-)
" best,
Roberto, il tenore"
Hey if we did the Meistersinger thing, I would win. :-)
You should be devoting your Psychic Bad Vibrations column in Skeptical Inquirer to trying to shoot down my stuff on UFOs and ESP with a responsible intellectually honest debate between me and any Pundit who thinks he can stand up to me. I mean if you had real courage like in The Wizard of Oz you would do that. We are all bored with the same old same old beating of dead horses on the obviously goofy New Age mindless stuff on ESP and UFOs in the pop media which only serve to coverup the Right Stuff.
Detailed exegesis not polemical vague smears is what is called for if you really want to serve the public and weed out the mis and disinformation in ESP and UFOs which most of the world's thinking people are fascinated with. You pro-debunkers are too simplistic it's time to raise the bar. (wrote Jack Sarfatti)
" Robert Sheaffer - roberto@debunker.com - Skeptical to the Max!"
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On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:27 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
"On Charles A. Muses (1919-2000) and Hyperspace:
Here is a statement I wrote up as an announcement of a talk Charles Muses
gave at the Parapsychology Research Group in San Francisco, December 1,
1986.
The Parapsychology of Time
In 1967 quantum physicist and Nobel laureate Eugene P. Wigner predicted
a convergence of psychology and physics, in his book *Symmetries and
Reflections*.
Jack commented:
Wigner accepted Von Neumann's and London's notion of "collapse" of the micro-quantum information wave.
Bohm and Hiley in "The Undivided Universe" show why "collapse" is an illusion. It is a muddled idea.
Any attempt to connect "consciousness" with "collapse" is a badly mistaken idea IMHO even though many of my
heroes like John Wheeler have advocated it. Great men make great mistakes. The modern theory of "decoherence"
by W. Zurek also shows why "collapse" is really only a superficial description. You can say "as if collapse" in a
crude sense. There is no "collapse" in the "many worlds" approach either.
The basic simple insight missed by Wigner, Stapp, Wheeler, Penrose et-al is that the living conscious mind is a BIG THING. It's not like the wave of a single electron or even a small number of electrons. As P.W. Anderson says
"More is different."
For Penrose to think that a "single graviton" has anything to do with the creation of a conscious moment is completely absurd IMHO even though Penrose is a great mathematical genius no doubt about it.
While the conscious mind is a BIG THING it is not a classical physics thing.
Stapp is correct on that score. Also Stapp is correct on making the distinction between "rocklike things" and "thoughtlike things" that correspond to Wheeler's "IT" and "BIT", to Bohm's "hidden variable" and "pilot wave", to "Flesh" and "Word", to "material" and "mental."
The conscious mind is a MACRO-QUANTUM thing not a micro-quantum thing.
The laws of MACRO-QUANTUM things are not the same as the laws of micro-quantum things.
More is different.
The laws of micro-quantum things are
1. A linear nonlocal unitary dynamical equation of motion in configuration (or phase) space for the wave (or the Wigner density) when there is "entanglement."
I mean this in the sense of second-quantized theory in Fock occupation number space where the Hamiltonian is a linear operator in Fock space even though configuration space representations look nonlinear as in Hartree-Fock theory for example.
2. Signal locality, i.e. EPR entanglement cannot be used as a stand-alone communication channel. It can be used with classical signals for information storage and processing like in quantum computing, cryptography and teleportation. This is called "passion at a distance" by Abner Shimony.
Note A: The projection operator formalism, associated with "collapse", works well pragmatically for simple particle beams like in the Stern-Gerlach experiment.
Note B: Antony Valentini has clarified "passion at a distance" as an artifact of "sub-quantal" equilibrium in which uncontrollable quantum randomness is viewed, as in Vigier's models, as a sub-quantal Brownian motion. In this case signal-locality is only found in the Brownian case, not in "colored" noise situations of "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" open pumped complex systems. No living system with a conscious mind can be closed in maximal randomness at any level classical, quantum or sub-quantum. Therefore, "signal-nonlocality" is a necessary condition for life as Brian Josephson first glimpsed in his "Biological Use of Nonlocality" with Fontini Pallikari.
The sub-quantal Brownian noise case is the Born probability distribution with signal locality, i.e. all reduced quantum density matrices for the parts of entangled wholes are completely random in the sense that they do not depend on control parameters of distant parts to which the part in question is entangled by the EPR effect.
This is what is entailed by what Stapp calls "the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory."
An instability in a micro-quantum ground state for real on-mass-shell quanta, or in the vacuum for virtual off-mass-shell quanta makes a relative non-classical entropy lowering phase transition to an emergent more complex order via the formation of a boson mode (if initially a fermion system) that condenses into a much smaller volume of the original phase space. This is a non-classical phase transition from micro-quantum stuff to MACRO-QUANTUM STUFF (either real or virtual).
MACRO-QUANTUM THINGS do not obey "the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory" because of what P.W. Anderson calls "generalized phase rigidity".
The latter in the special case of unstable quantum field theory of electrons (at least if not lepto-quarks in general) in globally flat space-time leads directly to Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" for the emergence of Einstein's c-number curved space-time "geometrodynamics" along with the observed unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields out of the MACRO-QUANTUM PARTIAL COHERING of the formerly completely random micro-quantum zero point fluctuations of all the quantum fields of the standard model or of its string theory generalizations to hyperspace and M-theory.
This is highly scale-dependent. The non-gravitating non-exotic MACRO-QUANTUM vacuum is completely coherent with zero residual random micro-quantum zero-point fluctuations at the FRW scale. However the new precision cosmology shows that only at most 4% of the universe at that scale in non-exotic. 96% is exotic - approximately 70% anti-gravitates as "dark energy" and approximately 26% percent gravitates as non-hadronic non-radiation non-lepton "dark matter."
In general the dynamics of MACRO-QUANTUM THINGS is "Landau-Ginzburg" not Schrodinger-Dirac i.e.
NONLINEAR LOCAL NONUNITARY for a ROBUST ground state (or vacuum) "wave" with "generalized Goldstone phase rigidity" that completely disobeys the projection operator formalism of orthodox micro-quantum measurement theory!
The living conscious mind is such a MACRO-QUANTUM THING with the signal-nonlocality that Dick Bierman sees in his "presponse data".
The local GIANT MIND WAVE is coupled in "two-way relation" (Bohm & Hiley's term) to the 10^18 hydrophobically caged electron qubits at the sub-microtubular level made popular by Stu Hameroff. Max Tegmark has completely shot down the Hameroff-Penrose "single-graviton collapse" model not of a single electron qubit inside the cage, but of the superposition of the heavy dimer 2-state configurations. Every nano-technologist knows that classical mechanics works for the molecular configurations - this is the Born-Oppenheimer approximation from me/mp ~ 10^-3. This boundary has been pushed with atom interference, but I doubt you can have that for the dimers?
"Hello, Jack.
Nicht danke - ich habe kein nottink.
I thank you for the compliment of proclaiming me to be the
highly-intelligent hacker Indrid Cold. Actually, I'm not that clever."
Yes, I corrected that error. It was my unintentional slip because I was having problems sending with pacbell.
It happens a few times a year because I multi-task very fast. You know I got turbo-charged upstairs in 1953
when I was "Taken"! :-) JOKE GRIN - well who really knows?
" I
think that Indrid Cold went back to Lanulos, or wherever he flew in from.
Yes, I did send that message out about Wheeler's anti-PSI stance. I wanted
to make sure that your other readers would see it. Yes, it's true that some
of your emails use the blind cc's, while others have sent the addresses out
in the clear. So I did nothing really clever here - just a "cut and paste."
I tried to send it using my mail server at debunker.com (hosted by Lanset),
but it complained 'too many recipients." So I tried pacbell, and voila.
As for this "trixcleverspacealien", I know nothing about him, her, or it.
Perhaps you've been hacked by the Illuminati? :)"
I am all that is left of them. Saul-Paul too. Also Stephen Schwartz! :-)
re: http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
http://qedcorp.com/APS/WheelerAustin.ppt
"I tried to look at your advertised entertainment below, but even though I
have DSL and it is working OK, somehow nothing comes up for me. - Hold the
presses - as I am typing this, the first page of your PPT came up, after
about 10 mins. Are you looking to set a world record in internet bandwidth
use?"
Something is wrong with your system. The Quick-Time file is 10 megs, the Power Point is 8 Megs. But with streaming that should not matter much.
It loads instantly on Safari on my MAC with DSL. One can see the streaming ahead of the presentation on the meter provided. My brother got it on his windows machine without waiting for 10 minutes. At least 2 people told me this AM they had no such problem downloading. Maybe there are a large number of people simultaneously downloading it at the time you tried? Yours is the only such complaint so far.
"You are correct, I am not a physicist and do not claim to be. However, I do
know that the hypotheses most likely to be true are those agreed upon by a
majority concensus of professional physicists."
Red Herring. Irrelevant. True, but irrelevant.
"It's not an infallible guide
to truth - nothing is - but it's the best we have. And I'm perfectly willing
to concede that there's a possibility that good old Sarfatti may indeed hit
upon some important discovery in physics that everyone else has missed.
These things happen occasionally. That 'dark energy' and 'vacuum energy'
stuff is bizarre beyond belief, but it seems to be good physics."
It's only bizzarre to you because you do not understand enough physics. It's quite ordinary to a physicist who understands both the equivalence principle and the uncertainty principle and who has read April 2003 Physics Today.
"The
mainstream of physics has embraced it, in all its strangeness. The Casimir
effect is undeniably real. Perhaps if you play around with that wild stuff
long enough, you may hit upon pay dirt."
There is no "perhaps" if you are able to understand http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov IN ITS FULLNESS. I could be wrong of course. If not, it would not be science.
"(Or you may hit nothing, no matter
how long you try.) Kepler was a half-crazy astrologer, "
Newton was an Alchemist and very cruel to his competitors like Hooke. He was almost as bad as the Trotksyite in Neo Con Cloak, Stephen Schwartz,, author of "The Two Faces of Islam." :-)
"but his good work was unbelievably good,"
The comparison of Newton with Schwartz stops there. :-)
"and Tesla for all his brilliance was more than a little wacky. Does that mean that every scientist who goes off the deep end finds something valuable? Hell, no! But occasionally somebody who goes out on a limb sees something that others didn't. Only time will tell if what you're
doing will have any lasting value to science. However, I'd have a lot more
confidence in it if UFOs and ESP didn't keep popping up. That suggests to me
that your 'nonsense filter' needs to be seriously tightened."
You can battle that out with Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis and Bruce Maccabee on UFOs and with Nobel Prize Laureate Brian Josephson on ESP. What you do not get is that thinking about UFOs and ESP is a great mental exercise, a gedankenexperiment, for getting out of the box to make the breakthrough - see Brian Greene in latest Sci Am on 11 Dimensions. Your mind is much too closed and that is the problem with all of you pro-Skeptics. On the other side the New Age starry-eyed believers are too open. Both camps do not understand enough physics and science in general. I consider both sides extremists with me in the middle.
"Still, I doubt very much if Wheeler would agree with you when you say:
'Our mind is a GIANT
MACRO-quantum bit local wave in two-way relation with electrical
dipole configurations that couple to nerve impulses, chemical
messengers etc. Direct back-reaction from the electric dipoles to this
mind wave generates inner experience.'"
Irrelevant. For one thing Wheeler is now 93 and is not the man he used to be - though he is still fantastic. However, if I had a few hours with him I am sure he would understand what I am proposing, which is not very far out BTW but it is quite mainstream in condensed matter physics.
"You should ask him about that."
Do you think the mind is a little bitsy teensy weensy micro-quantum thing? Speak for yourself. :-)
" best,
Roberto, il tenore"
Hey if we did the Meistersinger thing, I would win. :-)
You should be devoting your Psychic Bad Vibrations column in Skeptical Inquirer to trying to shoot down my stuff on UFOs and ESP with a responsible intellectually honest debate between me and any Pundit who thinks he can stand up to me. I mean if you had real courage like in The Wizard of Oz you would do that. We are all bored with the same old same old beating of dead horses on the obviously goofy New Age mindless stuff on ESP and UFOs in the pop media which only serve to coverup the Right Stuff.
Detailed exegesis not polemical vague smears is what is called for if you really want to serve the public and weed out the mis and disinformation in ESP and UFOs which most of the world's thinking people are fascinated with. You pro-debunkers are too simplistic it's time to raise the bar. (wrote Jack Sarfatti)
" Robert Sheaffer - roberto@debunker.com - Skeptical to the Max!"
Visit the Debunker's Domain - http://www.debunker.com
Resources Debunking All Manner of Bogus Claims
Also: Skepticism / Astronomy / Opera / more
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:27 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
"On Charles A. Muses (1919-2000) and Hyperspace:
Here is a statement I wrote up as an announcement of a talk Charles Muses
gave at the Parapsychology Research Group in San Francisco, December 1,
1986.
The Parapsychology of Time
In 1967 quantum physicist and Nobel laureate Eugene P. Wigner predicted
a convergence of psychology and physics, in his book *Symmetries and
Reflections*.
Jack commented:
Wigner accepted Von Neumann's and London's notion of "collapse" of the micro-quantum information wave.
Bohm and Hiley in "The Undivided Universe" show why "collapse" is an illusion. It is a muddled idea.
Any attempt to connect "consciousness" with "collapse" is a badly mistaken idea IMHO even though many of my
heroes like John Wheeler have advocated it. Great men make great mistakes. The modern theory of "decoherence"
by W. Zurek also shows why "collapse" is really only a superficial description. You can say "as if collapse" in a
crude sense. There is no "collapse" in the "many worlds" approach either.
The basic simple insight missed by Wigner, Stapp, Wheeler, Penrose et-al is that the living conscious mind is a BIG THING. It's not like the wave of a single electron or even a small number of electrons. As P.W. Anderson says
"More is different."
For Penrose to think that a "single graviton" has anything to do with the creation of a conscious moment is completely absurd IMHO even though Penrose is a great mathematical genius no doubt about it.
While the conscious mind is a BIG THING it is not a classical physics thing.
Stapp is correct on that score. Also Stapp is correct on making the distinction between "rocklike things" and "thoughtlike things" that correspond to Wheeler's "IT" and "BIT", to Bohm's "hidden variable" and "pilot wave", to "Flesh" and "Word", to "material" and "mental."
The conscious mind is a MACRO-QUANTUM thing not a micro-quantum thing.
The laws of MACRO-QUANTUM things are not the same as the laws of micro-quantum things.
More is different.
The laws of micro-quantum things are
1. A linear nonlocal unitary dynamical equation of motion in configuration (or phase) space for the wave (or the Wigner density) when there is "entanglement."
I mean this in the sense of second-quantized theory in Fock occupation number space where the Hamiltonian is a linear operator in Fock space even though configuration space representations look nonlinear as in Hartree-Fock theory for example.
2. Signal locality, i.e. EPR entanglement cannot be used as a stand-alone communication channel. It can be used with classical signals for information storage and processing like in quantum computing, cryptography and teleportation. This is called "passion at a distance" by Abner Shimony.
Note A: The projection operator formalism, associated with "collapse", works well pragmatically for simple particle beams like in the Stern-Gerlach experiment.
Note B: Antony Valentini has clarified "passion at a distance" as an artifact of "sub-quantal" equilibrium in which uncontrollable quantum randomness is viewed, as in Vigier's models, as a sub-quantal Brownian motion. In this case signal-locality is only found in the Brownian case, not in "colored" noise situations of "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" open pumped complex systems. No living system with a conscious mind can be closed in maximal randomness at any level classical, quantum or sub-quantum. Therefore, "signal-nonlocality" is a necessary condition for life as Brian Josephson first glimpsed in his "Biological Use of Nonlocality" with Fontini Pallikari.
The sub-quantal Brownian noise case is the Born probability distribution with signal locality, i.e. all reduced quantum density matrices for the parts of entangled wholes are completely random in the sense that they do not depend on control parameters of distant parts to which the part in question is entangled by the EPR effect.
This is what is entailed by what Stapp calls "the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory."
An instability in a micro-quantum ground state for real on-mass-shell quanta, or in the vacuum for virtual off-mass-shell quanta makes a relative non-classical entropy lowering phase transition to an emergent more complex order via the formation of a boson mode (if initially a fermion system) that condenses into a much smaller volume of the original phase space. This is a non-classical phase transition from micro-quantum stuff to MACRO-QUANTUM STUFF (either real or virtual).
MACRO-QUANTUM THINGS do not obey "the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory" because of what P.W. Anderson calls "generalized phase rigidity".
The latter in the special case of unstable quantum field theory of electrons (at least if not lepto-quarks in general) in globally flat space-time leads directly to Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" for the emergence of Einstein's c-number curved space-time "geometrodynamics" along with the observed unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields out of the MACRO-QUANTUM PARTIAL COHERING of the formerly completely random micro-quantum zero point fluctuations of all the quantum fields of the standard model or of its string theory generalizations to hyperspace and M-theory.
This is highly scale-dependent. The non-gravitating non-exotic MACRO-QUANTUM vacuum is completely coherent with zero residual random micro-quantum zero-point fluctuations at the FRW scale. However the new precision cosmology shows that only at most 4% of the universe at that scale in non-exotic. 96% is exotic - approximately 70% anti-gravitates as "dark energy" and approximately 26% percent gravitates as non-hadronic non-radiation non-lepton "dark matter."
In general the dynamics of MACRO-QUANTUM THINGS is "Landau-Ginzburg" not Schrodinger-Dirac i.e.
NONLINEAR LOCAL NONUNITARY for a ROBUST ground state (or vacuum) "wave" with "generalized Goldstone phase rigidity" that completely disobeys the projection operator formalism of orthodox micro-quantum measurement theory!
The living conscious mind is such a MACRO-QUANTUM THING with the signal-nonlocality that Dick Bierman sees in his "presponse data".
The local GIANT MIND WAVE is coupled in "two-way relation" (Bohm & Hiley's term) to the 10^18 hydrophobically caged electron qubits at the sub-microtubular level made popular by Stu Hameroff. Max Tegmark has completely shot down the Hameroff-Penrose "single-graviton collapse" model not of a single electron qubit inside the cage, but of the superposition of the heavy dimer 2-state configurations. Every nano-technologist knows that classical mechanics works for the molecular configurations - this is the Born-Oppenheimer approximation from me/mp ~ 10^-3. This boundary has been pushed with atom interference, but I doubt you can have that for the dimers?
Monday, October 20, 2003
bcc
up-dated corrected version - please circulate
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 12:59 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 04:49 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
Jack,
What does rtenore@pacbell.net have to say about the article by Tim Folger in
*Discover* (June 2002) based on an interview with Wheeler?
The title is "Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking?" and the gist of
the article is contained in the statement directly under the title:
"Eminent physicist John Wheeler says he has only enough time left to
work on one idea: that human consciousness shapes not only the present but
the past as well."
That sounds like advanced causation, presponse, teleology at least at first sight, certainly to the average intelligent reader.
The problem with Gardner, Frazier, Klass, Sheaffer is that "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing." They are all
bright, but basically journalists not scientists. Their knowledge and understanding is too limited to grapple with the really
deep issues of physics involved. They look for simplistic comforting "noble lies" like the Neo Cons on "Iraq WMD" in the wake of Leo Strauss
at the University of Chicago several decades ago that led to our over-enthusiastic "pre-emptive policy." Good news that
Condoleezza Rice is reining in the Wolfowitz Cabal over at the Pentagon a bit. President Bush is finally wising up to advice
that both State and CIA have been trying to get through to him. The Neo Cons may have meant well but were too simplistic.
Same for the CSICOPS.
Apparently, Wheeler believes that a recording device (presumably built
by a human) can play the role of consciousness in "collapsing the wave
function."
Of course I do not buy the fairy tale that consciousness actively collapses the micro-quantum wave, nor is it passively generated in such collapse even though Von Neumann, London, Wigner, Wheeler, Stapp and Penrose all have bought into that idea. I agree with Basil Hiley that "collapse" and "consciousness" have little to do with each other. I am able to explain why the "classical world" without all that mumbo-jumbo Deux ex Machina purely in terms of PW Anderson's "More is different".
Micro-quantum theory is linear, unitary, nonlocal in configuration space when entangled and has signal-locality. There is no such thing as "quantum consciousness." I agree with David Deutsch on that part.
When instability creeps into a micro-quantum ground state of a many-particle system, sometimes a self-organizing spontaneous breaking of some symmetry group happens and there is a phase transition of the micro-quantum ground state to a MACRO-quantum ground state with a "ODLRO" macroscopic occupation of a much smaller region of the original phase space for a system of identical "bosons" (either quasi-particles or collective modes that can form in the spontaneous symmetry breaking). This means a lowering of the non-thermodynamic "entropy" (log of the volume of phase space of the ground state for real particles or the vacuum for virtual particles as the case may be) that allows new emergent order. More is different.
The linear unitary nonlocal Schrodinger micro-quantum wave equation is replaced by the nonlinear non-unitary local Landau-Ginzburg equation for the MACRO-quantum wave in ordinary space. This is why space-time physics is "local" as I show in some detail in the case of Einstein's geometrodynamics and unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields emergent from the obvious instability in the Dirac electron micro-quantum vacuum in globally flat space-time.
A similar thing happens in the living brain. Our mind is a GIANT MACRO-quantum bit local wave in two-way relation with electrical dipole configurations that couple to nerve impulses, chemical messengers etc. Direct back-reaction from the electric dipoles to this mind wave generates inner experience. The basic dynamics is Landau-Ginzburg not Schrodinger. Macro-quantum coherence is strangely local with signal nonlocality or "presponse" just as micro-quantum systems are nonlocal with signal locality. A bit counter-intuitive I agree.
Andrei Linde (the Stanford Physicist who is famous for his model of the
inflationary big bang) was also interviewed at Wheeler's 90th birthday
festschrift. Of him this article says:
Linde believes that Wheeler's intuition of the participatory nature of
reality is probably right. But he differs with Wheeler on one crucial point.
Linde believes that conscious observers are an essential component of the
universe and cannot be replaced by inanimate objects.
Yes. BTW Michael Turner at APS April in Philly said one of the mysteries is "Why Inflation?"
Linde put it in ad-hoc overnight like Galois, in an act of desperation to get a US Green Card.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. :-)
Well in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
I give an answer to Turner's question "Why Inflation?"
BTW: The Parapsychology Association was accepted into the AAAS in 1969,
when Margaret Mead was the head of the AAAS. Anthropologists tend to be more
accepting of the paranormal, perhaps because they have some experience of it
in their field work.
All for now.
Saul-Paul
Mead's connection to Esalen's Gregory Bateson and Russell Targ relevant here.
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From: Jack Sarfatti
To: "rtenore"
Cc: roberto@debunker.com, Kenfrazier@cs.com
Subject: Re: Tribute to John A Wheeler Oct 24, 2003 Austin, Texas
Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2003, 12:16 PM
Memorandum for the Record
Advanced Alien Intelligence Agency
Subject: Skeptical Inquirer: Weapons of Mass Destruction/Deception in
Cyber Space and the New Cosmology of Wheeler's IT FROM BIT
On Resolving The Wheeler Paradox
bcc
Update: There are now 2 new Quick Time versions of my Oct 24, 2003 talk
"What is the Universe made of?"
http://english.ttu.edu/SLS/slsAbstract/Panel_5/ConferenceAbstract_5F.html
in Austin to a mixed audience of academics from both the sciences and
the humanities and the arts.
They are large files ~ 8 meg lavishly illustrated with great art and
photos that are symbols for the great physics concepts. Also some of my
key explanations are animated on a timeline in tiny baby steps that, I
hope, make the logic of my chain of original argumentation easier to
understand even for a non-physicist. I have added Max Tegmark's
objection to the Luminet-Weeks et-al Oct 9, 2003 Nature paper, more on
Wheeler's Vision of "IT FROM BIT" and the "Self-Excited Universe", more
on the exotic WMD issue of Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final
Hour", more on the recent resurgence of seemingly bizarre "homeopathic"
(J. Benveniste) "phantom DNA" (Vladimir Poponin) "psychotronic
torsion field" WMD (Akimov, Shipov) via our correspondent C. Ivanenko
in Saint Petersburg, Russia; also a really detailed animated
explanation of Herman Bondi's idea of negative matter propulsion as the
forerunner of Alcubierre's warp drive metric, how Francis Ford and
Ellie Coppola, under the influence of Saul-Paul Sirag and myself in the
mid-70s, got Carl Sagan started on "Contact" and how that led to Kip
Thorne's 1986 Star Gate (traversable wormhole) paper with "exotic
matter" that today we recognize as "dark energy" exotic vacuum w = -1
that is ~ 73% of the "stuff" of our Universe at least - not sure yet
about "The Universe Next Door." ;-)
A DSL line is adequate to get instant play on the automatic play movie
version:
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
If you save the download and open it directly in Quick Time you can
double the size of the screen for larger text. Even in the Web Browser
version most of the text is readable.
The interacting slide show version
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
where you click on the image to control the progress, exactly as I will
do in Austin, Texas next Friday, you must wait initially a long minute
or two or three depending on your connection speed before it works. It
is not "frozen" as you might think if you are in a hurry.
Note that http://qedcorp.com/APS/
is an open directory with other relevant files.
Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/ has entertaining FLASH animations
related to the high-weirdness of "Tech Gnosis" and its latest "Neo Con"
incursion into War and Peace if you click on the .html files.
I think "rtenore" is actually the highly intelligent hacker "Indrid
Cold", AKA "Dr. Mediocrities" etc. etc. He has the ability to hack into
bcc lists. His open list that he sent in the original message below is
a concatenation of several of my bcc lists. "Cold" seems to be part of
the "high weirdness" Hermetic group of talented cyber-nerds around
Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson in Berkeley in the 70's to the
90's. Some good background reading here is Erik Davis's very excellent
"Techgnosis", also the books by Wilson himself like "The Cosmic
Trigger". Indeed, the best-seller "The Da Vinci Code" is connected with
all this as my book "Destiny Matrix" shows. Another relevant book is
Unberto Ecco's "Foucault's Pendulum" as well as the films by Jean
Cocteau, the film La Jetee, and the book "The Star Gate Conspiracy"
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/stargate.htm with a lot of flaky
Egyptology that I do not buy to be sure. It is a mixed bag. However
what Picknett and Prince write about me in there is accurate.
Traditional straight academics in science will find all this
mind-boggling and really nutty - be warned. The world of long term
strategic "occult" covert international intelligence "psy ops" (e.g.
Paul Wolfowitz's "Neo Con Cabal" off-shoot of Leo Strauss, Ayn Rand
et-al in Don Rumsfeld's Pentagon face of the inner extra-dimensional
Dodecadron rather than the Eye in The Pyramid? See the film "Being
There" with Peter Sellars. :-) )
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html (also May/June &
Sept/Oct Skeptical Inquirer) is a Topsy Turvy Looking Glass Fun House
World - a Lewis Carroll Reality like in the TV series with Patrick
McGoohan "The Prisoner." - The Village http://users.aol.com/theprsnr/
reminds me of San Francisco's North Beach. :-)
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 12:15 AM, rtenore wrote:
"John Wheeler is a die-hard skeptic of the 'paranormal', so skeptical that
even CSICOP won't go as far as he does. He was the one who tried to get the
Parapsychological Association booted out of the AAAS, under the slogan 'get
the pseudos out.' Wheeler termed parapsychology "a pretentious
pseudoscience" that was given undeserved recognition by the AAAS during the
1960s "decade of permissiveness". Wheeler publicly called for the
Parapsychological Association to be ousted from the AAAS unless it could
come up with a repeatable experiment within one year. (See Skeptical
Inquirer, Spring, 1979.) How ironic for you to be singing his praises!
Maybe you should ask him if quantum physics makes telepathy possible. But
first put on your asbestos suit!"
Indrid's allegations are completely true. It is also true that Brian Josephson and I are pro-research in the paranormal and we even have independent ideas on how it works in relation to the deep problem of how to understand even ordinary consciousness in terms of mainstream theoretical physics of Wheeler's IT FROM BIT. This is all tied up in the quantum nonlocality - signal locality "passion at a distance" (Abner Shimony) issue of the domain of validity of micro-quantum theory. Recent work by Antony Valentini is a great step forward. I discuss some of this in my books "Destiny Matrix" and "Dark Energy - Space-Time and Beyond II" and will do a better job I hope in my third book of this series "Star Gate Universe." that my Oct 24, 2003 SLS talk in Austin, Texas http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov is a preview of.
There is no paradox here. Wheeler back then in 1980 was reacting to what Richard Feynman called at that time "Cargo Cult Science" which was rampant out of Esalen in Big Sur, Berkeley and San Francisco as my book "Destiny Matrix" explains. I was there. This was all the After Shlock (pun intended) of the 60's and post-Vietnam conflicts. Wheeler is correct that there is a lot of bad and bogus pseudo-science in both the paranormal and the UFO field. There is a low signal to noise ratio and was hard even for Wheeler, pre-occupied with other matters of mainstream physics, to closely filter and judge. The situation is quite different today. I have had some one-to-one time with Wheeler in 2000 at Cal Tech Kip Fest and also at April 2003 APS in Philadelphia. He is what 93 - and is amazingly lucid, though signs of advanced age are there as when he thought I was Kip Thorne for example and asked how my "daughter" was. He meant Kip's daughter. Wheeler got confused by my beard and beret and lots of wine was flowing at the time.
There is good work, e.g. Dick Bierman's "presponse" in fields related to the paranormal. There is also good work in UFOs. Most of what you see in the pop books like Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point" for example is pure hogwash I agree. One must walk a narrow tight rope in the fields of the paranormal and UFOs. It's easy to fall off both sides of the uncritical cultish "True Believer" or the uncritical cultish "Knee Jerk Debunker" like CSICOPs Skeptical Inquistor, Skeptix, Skeptic Magazine with their repeated re-hashing of the obvious silly bad and bogus stuff and their complete censoring of the real stuff that they are not able to understand. Indeed, even the latest allegations by Ivanenko on internet files as a psychotronic homeopathic weapon must be looked because Brian Josephson has looked at the homeopathy claims in
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/ Paris is full of homeopathy Pharmacies licensed by the French Government.
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/lectures/benveniste99.html is especially relevant
Robert Sheaffer - roberto@debunker.com - Skeptical to the Max!
Visit the Debunker's Domain - http://www.debunker.com
Resources Debunking All Manner of Bogus Claims
Also: Skepticism / Astronomy / Opera / more
Neither a True Believer nor a Knee-Jerk Debunker be.
Robert Sheaffer and Ken Frazier simply do not understand enough physics here. They are way out of their depth in these matters. That is a fact.
"rtenore" seems to be Sheaffer the Skeptical Inquirer columnist of Psychic Bad Vibrations" and not "Indrid Cold"? How did Sheaffer extract the bcc file to a cc file if indeed it is him? Or is, he really the notorious hacker like Clark Kent and Superman? ;-)
PS I later found out that Indrid Cold was not the culprit and it was Sheaffer. I had unintentionally once sent out the Vigier list as cc instead of bbc that's how Sheaffer got it.
To Ivanenko in St. Petersburg, Russia.
OK I am now happy with the current error-corrected version of my coming Oct 24, 2003 talk in Austin Texas that partly deals with what you talk about below.
Make sure all your really serious people in your Network in Russia and elsewhere very carefully study my talk at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
or
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
for point and click interactive slide show.
They can ask me questions.
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Constantin Ivanenko wrote:
"Dear Mr Sarfatti!
Was glad to receive this highly important message.
The problem of Chinese WMD is also ocupying attention of competent & responsible people in Russia; - concerned with future of our national security. Such concern has sufficient reason - as there are widely known intense Chinese activities in Russia, aimed at legal and/or illegal acquisition of Russian defence-oriented and/or double use technologies; - especially those of Leading Edge level, including vacuum & psychotronic technologies.
Chinese are behaving in Russia much bolder than in USA & other Western countries (where they also try to get new military technologies); - as, besides of higher corruptbility of Russian officials (and poor starving defence scientists & engineers: immediate owners of know-how, with whom Chinese agents try to make drect deals when possible), there may exist a measure of political support on part of former non-converted (if even they'd offered some lip service to "democratization") Communists - which are glad to support their "ideological comrades". (Perhaps, because of this were hushed some legal actions undertaken in cases of most blatant violations of laws governing exports of technologies having possible military applications.)"
The paragraph below partly deals with the activities of John Petersen at the Arlington Institute on the DC Beltway as explained in a Washington Post article a few years back. See also "Remote Viewers" by Jim Schnabel.
"As I've noted in my previous email, there are also Russian "democratic" ideological sympathizers to China
- and also people, believed to be connected with "military masonic elite" (people of this kind, - which could be regarded as Russian counterparts of members of US Pentagon Meditation Club, - had reintroduced in Russian Army General HQ seances of collective meditation, periodically performed in f. USSR in '20s-'30s, until its organizers, which were followers of Masonic/Rosicrucian Initiate Nicholas Roerich, were killed by Stalinists in '37-'38), which have their own complicated agenda in regard to China. (In this connection there may be recalled injunction of A. Bailey: see on pp. 130-34 of "The Externalization of the Hierarchy": "Russia will turn its attention towards East and will effectuate there vast changes as far as Pacific".)
Perhaps, controlled leakage of Leading Edge research data might be most feasible in current situation way to effectuate such changes. Here may be recalled essentially similar situation with so-called "Soviet atomic espionage" in USA during & after WWII; - which, as say some US experts (see, eg, on pp. 368-69 of R. Vesco & D. Childres' "Man-made UFOs", AUP Press, 1994), was not only tolerated but even covertly encouraged by top US authorities (which allegedly belonged to then variant of mentioned by you "Trotskyite/neocon cabal"; in "Pentagon Aliens" of W. Lyne they're called "military masonic >> elite").
In fact, otherwise it'll be difficult to explain how guarded 24 hours a day top US nuclear experts like Einstein, Oppenheimer, Fermi & others could not only pass information to Soviet KGBeasts (which were under observation of US intelligence, as those bloody thugs stood out against more civilized background of scientific community where they moved) but even enjoy services of KGB top-class whores (this allegedly did Einstein - as was published in one of "Sci. Am." articles).
Reason for this was quite clear; - as it was said in "Man-made UFOs", "USA could not wage multitrilion-dollar arms' race with itself". It needed well-controlled "sparring partner" - and such partner was found in Soviet "military masonic elite" (which was founded by Leon Trotsky - which introduced Masonic 5-pointed star as symbol of Red Army: whose colour corresponds to that of Crown of Ancient Lower Egypt - while white colour of US Army 5-pointed star is that of Crown of Upper Egypt!), which even Stalin could not totally exterminate.
As say some people, feeling "cold war nostalgia" (of whom there is a considerable number among now jobless & starving members of f. Soviet military-industrial-scientific complex), organizaton of "cold war" must be regarded as supremely successful feat of global-scale social engineering; - which allowed to promote scientific & technological progress with unprecedented-in-history speed (which might be critically important for the survival of Earth, as without Cold War-created nuclear/missile/computer technologies we couldn't defend our planet from possible asteroid/comet impacts - which will bring more devastation than full-scale nuclear war!)."
Yes, see http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
"Responsible organizers, which had no wish to perish in "accidental nuclear holocaust", took due precautions against quite possible incidents; - having established a vastly ramified network of both secret & (semi)official contacts (which were mentioned on pp. 94-95 of '97 edition of Ph. Corso Sr.'s book - and which allegedly helped to defuse timely Caribbean crisis) . I may personally witness truth of Col. Corso's statements in this area, as I myself had participated - in humble (I was just 22-25 years'-old at this time) but responsible role of trusted interpreter/assistant - since 1968 to 1971 in sanctioned by Politbureau confidential (but formally non-secret) meetings between top Soviet psi-research experts under leadership of Dr. Sergeyev ("No. 1 in entire East bloc", according to J. Alexander's '80s estimation) and Western psi-explorers guided by Prof. J. G. Pratt ("No. 1 in USA", according to the same source), who was then working on contract with ONI. (Regretfully, now Prof. Pratt is also dead; - but my words might be confirmed by still productively working in NY Maimonides Hospital Dr. Montague Ullman, - with whom Dr. Sergeyev & me met exactly 35 years ago: on 14-16 Oct '68 - I've well remembered this date as 14 Oct is my birthday.)
Let's hope that similar precautions are taken now in regard to technology transmission to China (Russian experts believe that when USA allows numerous "controlled technology leakages" to China, they also take similar precautions - perhaps, members of Russian and American "secret elite" even coordinate their activities in this area: cf. some aspects of "US-USSR-China leakage plot", described in "Dunn's Conundrum" by S. Lee; Sphere Books, 1986); - else living on this planet will become very soon a very uncomfortable occupation.
Regretfully, I can only hope - as I've lost access to reliable sources of information on secret Russo-Chinese transactions since death of my respected teacher (in life as well as in science) Dr. Sergeyev (who had good connections in military intelligence community); - which happened on 29 Oct 1999: soon before end of "overpermissive" rule of Yeltsin (KGB-educated Putin tries to put restrictions on sensitive activities of military intelligence: long-time rival of KGB, as correctly noted Col. Corso).
Many analysts here, concerned with problem of "exotic WMD", - which have considerable "psychological warfare" skills but little serious scientific training, - have no choice but to regard this problem from their specific viewpoint: as another instrument of psychological warfare; - which is much more handy than, say, use in the role of instruments of intimidation & political coercion threats with nuclear (and other "hard") weapons, as it can be used in "virtual format" (that is, it can produce psychological impression - if not on experts, then on gullible public opinion: this "democracy's soft underbelly" - but no tangible proofs, incriminating its alleged users, can ever be found: cf. situation with Iraqi WMD!)."
You make a very important point here that applies to the American Intelligence as well as the Russian. I have hit my head against this stone wall for decades now. Martin Rees's book and the discovery of dark energy may finally awaken the Ostriches from their "dogmatic slumbers." :-)
"First this term became publicized around 1984 - at the peak of alleged Reagan's preparations to deliver pre-emptive nuclear strike to f. USSR (see "Dunn's Conundrum") - by Soviet-sympathizing "left ecologist" J. Schell (who employed the term "virtual nuclear weapons" in a slightly different role).
At this critical for USSR time Soviet "influence agents" in the West started coordinated campaign of psychological warfare against governments of England & West Germany which allowed installation in their countries of US first strike weapons: cruise missiles & "Pershings-2"; - which "could fly in any selected window of Kremlin" just few minutes after launch, so that elderly Soviet rulers will not have time not only get to nuclear shelter but even to put on their trousers. It was rumoured that compact nuclear charges were secretly implanted by Soviet agents in key sensitive places of England & W. Germany (possibly near government residences); - which'll be activated in case of US nuclear attack on USSR: it was as impossible to determine, in then real political situation, whether such rumours were false or true as to know whether Schroedinger's Cat is alive or dead without opening its box (which in case of "nuclear cat" will become political Box of Pandora!). That can be called a most spectacular example of use of "virtual nuclear weapons technology" - which, involving as little real risk as possible, is fail-safe: always some psychologically unstable fraction of population will believe gladly in alarming news (like modern ecoalarmists or believers in near Apocalypse); - and, if their percentage (and especially mental coherence of their psi-fields: cf. TM data on organization of collective meditations) will be high enough, they might force their own governments to accede to Soviet demands - without a need for the latter to move a finger!"
This is a dangerous problem here because the Lunatic Religious Right in America believes in Apocalypse Now and allegedly have influence on the mind of President Bush. The Neo Con policy of using Bismarck's "Iron Heel" adds to the growing instability. The Neo Cons are in alliance with extremists in Israel who also share the Apocalyptic Vision of the American Religious Simpletons. Add to this boiling pot, the extremists from Islam and we have a very dangerous situation with Nuts in Power. Fortunately, now it looks as though the saner elements of the Bush Administration, i.e. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice and the CIA are in the ascendancy against Rumsfeld's Neo Con Jacobites rushing in where Angels Fear to Tread. The Neo Cons do seem to be right in one tactic, the Al Qaeda seems to be flocking to Baghdad and not to Boston. Most of Iraq now seems to be pacified except for a relatively small, but important area including Baghdad and Saddam's home town.
F. Soviet ambassador in USA M. Dobrynin writes in his memoirs that during 1983-4 Soviet intelligence had undertaken unprecedented in scale operation, trying to detect signs of preparation to nuclear strike against USSR - about possibility of which Andropov: suspected of being a Mason got warnings through mysterious even for KGB channels.
Here it can be said that Soviet psi-warfare experts made their own use out of popular in '50s in USA & other Western countries "Soviet nuclear scare": Western propaganda has successfully enough intimidated its own population with threat of "Soviet secret agents with nuclear suitcases" (see, eg, F. Forsythe's "Fourth Protocol" - which was read with high interest even by Mrs. Thatcher) - preparing thus fertile psychological grounds for Western "nuclear protest movements".
Now such heavy & inelegantly crude instrument as "nuclear blackmail" (even virtual) is relegated to such outsiders as "rogue states" and/or "international terrorists'; - and members of "Inner Circle" (including China and perhaps f. Iraq) are preferring to operate such more handy instrument as "(virtual) psychotronic blackmail" - which not only offers lesser probability of dangerous accidents, but promises incomparably greater rewards personally to its operators: which, almost without exception, - as are most members of international-level intellectual elite, - are dedicated to the idea of Global Commonwealth of Intellectuals: some variant of old idea of International Government of Scientists (publicized by Masonic/Theosophic/Rosicrucian sources as "Global Spiritual Government of Shamballa").
Ah yes, "Morning of the Magicians" by Pauwels and Bergier, and similar pop books on the Tibetan-Occult Nazi-Theosophy-Vril-Thule links in the 20's - 30's.
"Any talk about psi-weapons does attract welcome interest (and, possibly, even more welcome funds) to this problem; - which, in order to be widely enough publicized, must necessarily have its own highly dedicated adversaries (as its partisans simply cannot start hot enough controversy among themselves!).
Never trusting anything to chance KGB had personally selected in Soviet times "professional psi-(or UFO etc.)debunkers"; - which were periodically activated, if there appeared a need to carry some action of "psychotronic intimidation" of foreign governments. (The actual intimidation "at close range" was performed by foreign colleagues of Soviet psi-researchers (or rather their Masonic bosses) - which highly benefited from government funding of explorations how to neutralize Soviet psi-menace.) Such a system functioned before "perestroika" more or less smoothly & efficiently as an Engine of Progress; - helping to maintain sufficiently high but well-regulated level of "international psi-voltage", sufficient for driving The Wheels of Progress with ever increasing speed. (Many of most interesting works - especially in USSR - in such "exotic" areas as vacuum explorations, non-local communication etc."
I have basically solved all that now in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
The handwriting is on the wall. From here on it's a downhill slide and a mop-up operation of R&D. Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point" should be remaindered. :-)
"will never be undertaken without such "cold war engine"; - which became clear when Soviet science
collapsed after "catastroika". Of course, job-deprived scientists eagerly wish to rebuild a similar - but, if possibly, having more reliable character - mechanism for effectuating necessary interaction between Science & Society; - believing that their US colleagues, which (as they think) started global antiterrorist campaign as a kind of substitute to Cold War, do also share their expectations.)
As says social synrgetics, - confirming empirical data of social scientists of former ages, - dynamic stabilization of as complex system as global community needs an input of "controlled chaos"; - perhaps, even having format of "less-than-war" paramilitary operations in order to prevent formation of large hidden pockets of destructive energies: cf. prevention of destructive avalanches by properly timed preventive explosions. There is deep wisdom in words of St. Paul: "when everyone will speak only about Peace then disaster will befall them". So realistically thinking political leaders must be concerned not with Establishing of Paradise on Earth - which is a business for angels - but with not allowing our planet to sink too deep into Hell: which, according to all esoteric teachings, Earth actually is - recall that in Bible Satan: Lord of Hell is called "Prince of This World"!
Naturally, a new kind of World Balance technologies, - now involving use of data of Leading Edge research, - calls for a new kind of people to carry through these policies; - and such people preferably must have a good scientific education. (Here Mrs Lapayeva & her followers see promise of their eventual victory - because old generation politicians will be simply unable to communicate with their foreign counterparts at, say, negotiations for limitation of psychotronic/genome arms' race. Such negotiations, of course, will be best advertisement & promotion to progress of these - and other - new supertechnologies, providing with rewarding jobs large numbers of highly intelligent well-educated people: the finest flower & best hope of Humankind.)
Their education must necessarily include also mind-expanding technologies; - so that they might contain without difficulties Machiavellian/Orwellian (see also Kautilya's "Arthashastra") "double thinking" - which needs higher-dimensional psychobiocomputers. (In higher-dimensional spaces it's quite natural for objects to move simultaneously in different directions - as well as it's quite natural for quantum computers to be simultaneously in several states: present-day "postmodern approach" is an attempt to realize such "quantum world vision".)
Here I can only solidarize with mentioned in G. Zukav's "Dancing Wu Li masters" slogan of MIT (or perhaps SRI) Leading Edge physicists: "Attention! Study of physics can expand your awareness!"; - recommending future political leaders to study modern physics (or better mathematics) - even if not too deeply, which may become addictive. I wish to thank also you for your extensive informational exchange activities in the area of high-tech weapons' politics; - which help scientists & political activists of different countries to establish closer "psychic entanglement", - which will be very helpful in process of formation of necessary (if humankind wishes to survive) for sustaining even relative peace (while allowing to promote Progress, which is often omitted by too short-sighted proponents of Sustainable Development: but the world will turn into worst hell if to deprive people from opportunity to grow) International Government of Scientists: "realpolitik incarnation" of Global Noospheric Brain/Mind of Teilard/Vernadsky.
I am reminded of H.G. Wells "Things to Come" the ~ 1940 film.
I'd be glad to receive your feedback to this message.
I think you wouldn't object that I'd transmit some of your messages to such my competent & responsible Leading Edge research colleagues as, for example, Acad. Akimov, Acad. Shipov or Prof. Gariaev.
Indeed this should all be public information. It is too important to be kept secret. The Fate not only of this Planet, but of the entire Universe is now in our hands as Sir Martin Rees points out in "Our Final Hour" Chapter 9.
With best wishes, Sincerely yours Constantin I. Ivanenko
up-dated corrected version - please circulate
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 12:59 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 04:49 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
Jack,
What does rtenore@pacbell.net have to say about the article by Tim Folger in
*Discover* (June 2002) based on an interview with Wheeler?
The title is "Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking?" and the gist of
the article is contained in the statement directly under the title:
"Eminent physicist John Wheeler says he has only enough time left to
work on one idea: that human consciousness shapes not only the present but
the past as well."
That sounds like advanced causation, presponse, teleology at least at first sight, certainly to the average intelligent reader.
The problem with Gardner, Frazier, Klass, Sheaffer is that "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing." They are all
bright, but basically journalists not scientists. Their knowledge and understanding is too limited to grapple with the really
deep issues of physics involved. They look for simplistic comforting "noble lies" like the Neo Cons on "Iraq WMD" in the wake of Leo Strauss
at the University of Chicago several decades ago that led to our over-enthusiastic "pre-emptive policy." Good news that
Condoleezza Rice is reining in the Wolfowitz Cabal over at the Pentagon a bit. President Bush is finally wising up to advice
that both State and CIA have been trying to get through to him. The Neo Cons may have meant well but were too simplistic.
Same for the CSICOPS.
Apparently, Wheeler believes that a recording device (presumably built
by a human) can play the role of consciousness in "collapsing the wave
function."
Of course I do not buy the fairy tale that consciousness actively collapses the micro-quantum wave, nor is it passively generated in such collapse even though Von Neumann, London, Wigner, Wheeler, Stapp and Penrose all have bought into that idea. I agree with Basil Hiley that "collapse" and "consciousness" have little to do with each other. I am able to explain why the "classical world" without all that mumbo-jumbo Deux ex Machina purely in terms of PW Anderson's "More is different".
Micro-quantum theory is linear, unitary, nonlocal in configuration space when entangled and has signal-locality. There is no such thing as "quantum consciousness." I agree with David Deutsch on that part.
When instability creeps into a micro-quantum ground state of a many-particle system, sometimes a self-organizing spontaneous breaking of some symmetry group happens and there is a phase transition of the micro-quantum ground state to a MACRO-quantum ground state with a "ODLRO" macroscopic occupation of a much smaller region of the original phase space for a system of identical "bosons" (either quasi-particles or collective modes that can form in the spontaneous symmetry breaking). This means a lowering of the non-thermodynamic "entropy" (log of the volume of phase space of the ground state for real particles or the vacuum for virtual particles as the case may be) that allows new emergent order. More is different.
The linear unitary nonlocal Schrodinger micro-quantum wave equation is replaced by the nonlinear non-unitary local Landau-Ginzburg equation for the MACRO-quantum wave in ordinary space. This is why space-time physics is "local" as I show in some detail in the case of Einstein's geometrodynamics and unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields emergent from the obvious instability in the Dirac electron micro-quantum vacuum in globally flat space-time.
A similar thing happens in the living brain. Our mind is a GIANT MACRO-quantum bit local wave in two-way relation with electrical dipole configurations that couple to nerve impulses, chemical messengers etc. Direct back-reaction from the electric dipoles to this mind wave generates inner experience. The basic dynamics is Landau-Ginzburg not Schrodinger. Macro-quantum coherence is strangely local with signal nonlocality or "presponse" just as micro-quantum systems are nonlocal with signal locality. A bit counter-intuitive I agree.
Andrei Linde (the Stanford Physicist who is famous for his model of the
inflationary big bang) was also interviewed at Wheeler's 90th birthday
festschrift. Of him this article says:
Linde believes that Wheeler's intuition of the participatory nature of
reality is probably right. But he differs with Wheeler on one crucial point.
Linde believes that conscious observers are an essential component of the
universe and cannot be replaced by inanimate objects.
Yes. BTW Michael Turner at APS April in Philly said one of the mysteries is "Why Inflation?"
Linde put it in ad-hoc overnight like Galois, in an act of desperation to get a US Green Card.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. :-)
Well in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
I give an answer to Turner's question "Why Inflation?"
BTW: The Parapsychology Association was accepted into the AAAS in 1969,
when Margaret Mead was the head of the AAAS. Anthropologists tend to be more
accepting of the paranormal, perhaps because they have some experience of it
in their field work.
All for now.
Saul-Paul
Mead's connection to Esalen's Gregory Bateson and Russell Targ relevant here.
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From: Jack Sarfatti
To: "rtenore"
Cc: roberto@debunker.com, Kenfrazier@cs.com
Subject: Re: Tribute to John A Wheeler Oct 24, 2003 Austin, Texas
Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2003, 12:16 PM
Memorandum for the Record
Advanced Alien Intelligence Agency
Subject: Skeptical Inquirer: Weapons of Mass Destruction/Deception in
Cyber Space and the New Cosmology of Wheeler's IT FROM BIT
On Resolving The Wheeler Paradox
bcc
Update: There are now 2 new Quick Time versions of my Oct 24, 2003 talk
"What is the Universe made of?"
http://english.ttu.edu/SLS/slsAbstract/Panel_5/ConferenceAbstract_5F.html
in Austin to a mixed audience of academics from both the sciences and
the humanities and the arts.
They are large files ~ 8 meg lavishly illustrated with great art and
photos that are symbols for the great physics concepts. Also some of my
key explanations are animated on a timeline in tiny baby steps that, I
hope, make the logic of my chain of original argumentation easier to
understand even for a non-physicist. I have added Max Tegmark's
objection to the Luminet-Weeks et-al Oct 9, 2003 Nature paper, more on
Wheeler's Vision of "IT FROM BIT" and the "Self-Excited Universe", more
on the exotic WMD issue of Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final
Hour", more on the recent resurgence of seemingly bizarre "homeopathic"
(J. Benveniste) "phantom DNA" (Vladimir Poponin) "psychotronic
torsion field" WMD (Akimov, Shipov) via our correspondent C. Ivanenko
in Saint Petersburg, Russia; also a really detailed animated
explanation of Herman Bondi's idea of negative matter propulsion as the
forerunner of Alcubierre's warp drive metric, how Francis Ford and
Ellie Coppola, under the influence of Saul-Paul Sirag and myself in the
mid-70s, got Carl Sagan started on "Contact" and how that led to Kip
Thorne's 1986 Star Gate (traversable wormhole) paper with "exotic
matter" that today we recognize as "dark energy" exotic vacuum w = -1
that is ~ 73% of the "stuff" of our Universe at least - not sure yet
about "The Universe Next Door." ;-)
A DSL line is adequate to get instant play on the automatic play movie
version:
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
If you save the download and open it directly in Quick Time you can
double the size of the screen for larger text. Even in the Web Browser
version most of the text is readable.
The interacting slide show version
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
where you click on the image to control the progress, exactly as I will
do in Austin, Texas next Friday, you must wait initially a long minute
or two or three depending on your connection speed before it works. It
is not "frozen" as you might think if you are in a hurry.
Note that http://qedcorp.com/APS/
is an open directory with other relevant files.
Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/ has entertaining FLASH animations
related to the high-weirdness of "Tech Gnosis" and its latest "Neo Con"
incursion into War and Peace if you click on the .html files.
I think "rtenore" is actually the highly intelligent hacker "Indrid
Cold", AKA "Dr. Mediocrities" etc. etc. He has the ability to hack into
bcc lists. His open list that he sent in the original message below is
a concatenation of several of my bcc lists. "Cold" seems to be part of
the "high weirdness" Hermetic group of talented cyber-nerds around
Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson in Berkeley in the 70's to the
90's. Some good background reading here is Erik Davis's very excellent
"Techgnosis", also the books by Wilson himself like "The Cosmic
Trigger". Indeed, the best-seller "The Da Vinci Code" is connected with
all this as my book "Destiny Matrix" shows. Another relevant book is
Unberto Ecco's "Foucault's Pendulum" as well as the films by Jean
Cocteau, the film La Jetee, and the book "The Star Gate Conspiracy"
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/stargate.htm with a lot of flaky
Egyptology that I do not buy to be sure. It is a mixed bag. However
what Picknett and Prince write about me in there is accurate.
Traditional straight academics in science will find all this
mind-boggling and really nutty - be warned. The world of long term
strategic "occult" covert international intelligence "psy ops" (e.g.
Paul Wolfowitz's "Neo Con Cabal" off-shoot of Leo Strauss, Ayn Rand
et-al in Don Rumsfeld's Pentagon face of the inner extra-dimensional
Dodecadron rather than the Eye in The Pyramid? See the film "Being
There" with Peter Sellars. :-) )
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html (also May/June &
Sept/Oct Skeptical Inquirer) is a Topsy Turvy Looking Glass Fun House
World - a Lewis Carroll Reality like in the TV series with Patrick
McGoohan "The Prisoner." - The Village http://users.aol.com/theprsnr/
reminds me of San Francisco's North Beach. :-)
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 12:15 AM, rtenore wrote:
"John Wheeler is a die-hard skeptic of the 'paranormal', so skeptical that
even CSICOP won't go as far as he does. He was the one who tried to get the
Parapsychological Association booted out of the AAAS, under the slogan 'get
the pseudos out.' Wheeler termed parapsychology "a pretentious
pseudoscience" that was given undeserved recognition by the AAAS during the
1960s "decade of permissiveness". Wheeler publicly called for the
Parapsychological Association to be ousted from the AAAS unless it could
come up with a repeatable experiment within one year. (See Skeptical
Inquirer, Spring, 1979.) How ironic for you to be singing his praises!
Maybe you should ask him if quantum physics makes telepathy possible. But
first put on your asbestos suit!"
Indrid's allegations are completely true. It is also true that Brian Josephson and I are pro-research in the paranormal and we even have independent ideas on how it works in relation to the deep problem of how to understand even ordinary consciousness in terms of mainstream theoretical physics of Wheeler's IT FROM BIT. This is all tied up in the quantum nonlocality - signal locality "passion at a distance" (Abner Shimony) issue of the domain of validity of micro-quantum theory. Recent work by Antony Valentini is a great step forward. I discuss some of this in my books "Destiny Matrix" and "Dark Energy - Space-Time and Beyond II" and will do a better job I hope in my third book of this series "Star Gate Universe." that my Oct 24, 2003 SLS talk in Austin, Texas http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov is a preview of.
There is no paradox here. Wheeler back then in 1980 was reacting to what Richard Feynman called at that time "Cargo Cult Science" which was rampant out of Esalen in Big Sur, Berkeley and San Francisco as my book "Destiny Matrix" explains. I was there. This was all the After Shlock (pun intended) of the 60's and post-Vietnam conflicts. Wheeler is correct that there is a lot of bad and bogus pseudo-science in both the paranormal and the UFO field. There is a low signal to noise ratio and was hard even for Wheeler, pre-occupied with other matters of mainstream physics, to closely filter and judge. The situation is quite different today. I have had some one-to-one time with Wheeler in 2000 at Cal Tech Kip Fest and also at April 2003 APS in Philadelphia. He is what 93 - and is amazingly lucid, though signs of advanced age are there as when he thought I was Kip Thorne for example and asked how my "daughter" was. He meant Kip's daughter. Wheeler got confused by my beard and beret and lots of wine was flowing at the time.
There is good work, e.g. Dick Bierman's "presponse" in fields related to the paranormal. There is also good work in UFOs. Most of what you see in the pop books like Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point" for example is pure hogwash I agree. One must walk a narrow tight rope in the fields of the paranormal and UFOs. It's easy to fall off both sides of the uncritical cultish "True Believer" or the uncritical cultish "Knee Jerk Debunker" like CSICOPs Skeptical Inquistor, Skeptix, Skeptic Magazine with their repeated re-hashing of the obvious silly bad and bogus stuff and their complete censoring of the real stuff that they are not able to understand. Indeed, even the latest allegations by Ivanenko on internet files as a psychotronic homeopathic weapon must be looked because Brian Josephson has looked at the homeopathy claims in
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/ Paris is full of homeopathy Pharmacies licensed by the French Government.
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/lectures/benveniste99.html is especially relevant
Robert Sheaffer - roberto@debunker.com - Skeptical to the Max!
Visit the Debunker's Domain - http://www.debunker.com
Resources Debunking All Manner of Bogus Claims
Also: Skepticism / Astronomy / Opera / more
Neither a True Believer nor a Knee-Jerk Debunker be.
Robert Sheaffer and Ken Frazier simply do not understand enough physics here. They are way out of their depth in these matters. That is a fact.
"rtenore" seems to be Sheaffer the Skeptical Inquirer columnist of Psychic Bad Vibrations" and not "Indrid Cold"? How did Sheaffer extract the bcc file to a cc file if indeed it is him? Or is, he really the notorious hacker like Clark Kent and Superman? ;-)
PS I later found out that Indrid Cold was not the culprit and it was Sheaffer. I had unintentionally once sent out the Vigier list as cc instead of bbc that's how Sheaffer got it.
To Ivanenko in St. Petersburg, Russia.
OK I am now happy with the current error-corrected version of my coming Oct 24, 2003 talk in Austin Texas that partly deals with what you talk about below.
Make sure all your really serious people in your Network in Russia and elsewhere very carefully study my talk at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
or
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
for point and click interactive slide show.
They can ask me questions.
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Constantin Ivanenko wrote:
"Dear Mr Sarfatti!
Was glad to receive this highly important message.
The problem of Chinese WMD is also ocupying attention of competent & responsible people in Russia; - concerned with future of our national security. Such concern has sufficient reason - as there are widely known intense Chinese activities in Russia, aimed at legal and/or illegal acquisition of Russian defence-oriented and/or double use technologies; - especially those of Leading Edge level, including vacuum & psychotronic technologies.
Chinese are behaving in Russia much bolder than in USA & other Western countries (where they also try to get new military technologies); - as, besides of higher corruptbility of Russian officials (and poor starving defence scientists & engineers: immediate owners of know-how, with whom Chinese agents try to make drect deals when possible), there may exist a measure of political support on part of former non-converted (if even they'd offered some lip service to "democratization") Communists - which are glad to support their "ideological comrades". (Perhaps, because of this were hushed some legal actions undertaken in cases of most blatant violations of laws governing exports of technologies having possible military applications.)"
The paragraph below partly deals with the activities of John Petersen at the Arlington Institute on the DC Beltway as explained in a Washington Post article a few years back. See also "Remote Viewers" by Jim Schnabel.
"As I've noted in my previous email, there are also Russian "democratic" ideological sympathizers to China
- and also people, believed to be connected with "military masonic elite" (people of this kind, - which could be regarded as Russian counterparts of members of US Pentagon Meditation Club, - had reintroduced in Russian Army General HQ seances of collective meditation, periodically performed in f. USSR in '20s-'30s, until its organizers, which were followers of Masonic/Rosicrucian Initiate Nicholas Roerich, were killed by Stalinists in '37-'38), which have their own complicated agenda in regard to China. (In this connection there may be recalled injunction of A. Bailey: see on pp. 130-34 of "The Externalization of the Hierarchy": "Russia will turn its attention towards East and will effectuate there vast changes as far as Pacific".)
Perhaps, controlled leakage of Leading Edge research data might be most feasible in current situation way to effectuate such changes. Here may be recalled essentially similar situation with so-called "Soviet atomic espionage" in USA during & after WWII; - which, as say some US experts (see, eg, on pp. 368-69 of R. Vesco & D. Childres' "Man-made UFOs", AUP Press, 1994), was not only tolerated but even covertly encouraged by top US authorities (which allegedly belonged to then variant of mentioned by you "Trotskyite/neocon cabal"; in "Pentagon Aliens" of W. Lyne they're called "military masonic >> elite").
In fact, otherwise it'll be difficult to explain how guarded 24 hours a day top US nuclear experts like Einstein, Oppenheimer, Fermi & others could not only pass information to Soviet KGBeasts (which were under observation of US intelligence, as those bloody thugs stood out against more civilized background of scientific community where they moved) but even enjoy services of KGB top-class whores (this allegedly did Einstein - as was published in one of "Sci. Am." articles).
Reason for this was quite clear; - as it was said in "Man-made UFOs", "USA could not wage multitrilion-dollar arms' race with itself". It needed well-controlled "sparring partner" - and such partner was found in Soviet "military masonic elite" (which was founded by Leon Trotsky - which introduced Masonic 5-pointed star as symbol of Red Army: whose colour corresponds to that of Crown of Ancient Lower Egypt - while white colour of US Army 5-pointed star is that of Crown of Upper Egypt!), which even Stalin could not totally exterminate.
As say some people, feeling "cold war nostalgia" (of whom there is a considerable number among now jobless & starving members of f. Soviet military-industrial-scientific complex), organizaton of "cold war" must be regarded as supremely successful feat of global-scale social engineering; - which allowed to promote scientific & technological progress with unprecedented-in-history speed (which might be critically important for the survival of Earth, as without Cold War-created nuclear/missile/computer technologies we couldn't defend our planet from possible asteroid/comet impacts - which will bring more devastation than full-scale nuclear war!)."
Yes, see http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
"Responsible organizers, which had no wish to perish in "accidental nuclear holocaust", took due precautions against quite possible incidents; - having established a vastly ramified network of both secret & (semi)official contacts (which were mentioned on pp. 94-95 of '97 edition of Ph. Corso Sr.'s book - and which allegedly helped to defuse timely Caribbean crisis) . I may personally witness truth of Col. Corso's statements in this area, as I myself had participated - in humble (I was just 22-25 years'-old at this time) but responsible role of trusted interpreter/assistant - since 1968 to 1971 in sanctioned by Politbureau confidential (but formally non-secret) meetings between top Soviet psi-research experts under leadership of Dr. Sergeyev ("No. 1 in entire East bloc", according to J. Alexander's '80s estimation) and Western psi-explorers guided by Prof. J. G. Pratt ("No. 1 in USA", according to the same source), who was then working on contract with ONI. (Regretfully, now Prof. Pratt is also dead; - but my words might be confirmed by still productively working in NY Maimonides Hospital Dr. Montague Ullman, - with whom Dr. Sergeyev & me met exactly 35 years ago: on 14-16 Oct '68 - I've well remembered this date as 14 Oct is my birthday.)
Let's hope that similar precautions are taken now in regard to technology transmission to China (Russian experts believe that when USA allows numerous "controlled technology leakages" to China, they also take similar precautions - perhaps, members of Russian and American "secret elite" even coordinate their activities in this area: cf. some aspects of "US-USSR-China leakage plot", described in "Dunn's Conundrum" by S. Lee; Sphere Books, 1986); - else living on this planet will become very soon a very uncomfortable occupation.
Regretfully, I can only hope - as I've lost access to reliable sources of information on secret Russo-Chinese transactions since death of my respected teacher (in life as well as in science) Dr. Sergeyev (who had good connections in military intelligence community); - which happened on 29 Oct 1999: soon before end of "overpermissive" rule of Yeltsin (KGB-educated Putin tries to put restrictions on sensitive activities of military intelligence: long-time rival of KGB, as correctly noted Col. Corso).
Many analysts here, concerned with problem of "exotic WMD", - which have considerable "psychological warfare" skills but little serious scientific training, - have no choice but to regard this problem from their specific viewpoint: as another instrument of psychological warfare; - which is much more handy than, say, use in the role of instruments of intimidation & political coercion threats with nuclear (and other "hard") weapons, as it can be used in "virtual format" (that is, it can produce psychological impression - if not on experts, then on gullible public opinion: this "democracy's soft underbelly" - but no tangible proofs, incriminating its alleged users, can ever be found: cf. situation with Iraqi WMD!)."
You make a very important point here that applies to the American Intelligence as well as the Russian. I have hit my head against this stone wall for decades now. Martin Rees's book and the discovery of dark energy may finally awaken the Ostriches from their "dogmatic slumbers." :-)
"First this term became publicized around 1984 - at the peak of alleged Reagan's preparations to deliver pre-emptive nuclear strike to f. USSR (see "Dunn's Conundrum") - by Soviet-sympathizing "left ecologist" J. Schell (who employed the term "virtual nuclear weapons" in a slightly different role).
At this critical for USSR time Soviet "influence agents" in the West started coordinated campaign of psychological warfare against governments of England & West Germany which allowed installation in their countries of US first strike weapons: cruise missiles & "Pershings-2"; - which "could fly in any selected window of Kremlin" just few minutes after launch, so that elderly Soviet rulers will not have time not only get to nuclear shelter but even to put on their trousers. It was rumoured that compact nuclear charges were secretly implanted by Soviet agents in key sensitive places of England & W. Germany (possibly near government residences); - which'll be activated in case of US nuclear attack on USSR: it was as impossible to determine, in then real political situation, whether such rumours were false or true as to know whether Schroedinger's Cat is alive or dead without opening its box (which in case of "nuclear cat" will become political Box of Pandora!). That can be called a most spectacular example of use of "virtual nuclear weapons technology" - which, involving as little real risk as possible, is fail-safe: always some psychologically unstable fraction of population will believe gladly in alarming news (like modern ecoalarmists or believers in near Apocalypse); - and, if their percentage (and especially mental coherence of their psi-fields: cf. TM data on organization of collective meditations) will be high enough, they might force their own governments to accede to Soviet demands - without a need for the latter to move a finger!"
This is a dangerous problem here because the Lunatic Religious Right in America believes in Apocalypse Now and allegedly have influence on the mind of President Bush. The Neo Con policy of using Bismarck's "Iron Heel" adds to the growing instability. The Neo Cons are in alliance with extremists in Israel who also share the Apocalyptic Vision of the American Religious Simpletons. Add to this boiling pot, the extremists from Islam and we have a very dangerous situation with Nuts in Power. Fortunately, now it looks as though the saner elements of the Bush Administration, i.e. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice and the CIA are in the ascendancy against Rumsfeld's Neo Con Jacobites rushing in where Angels Fear to Tread. The Neo Cons do seem to be right in one tactic, the Al Qaeda seems to be flocking to Baghdad and not to Boston. Most of Iraq now seems to be pacified except for a relatively small, but important area including Baghdad and Saddam's home town.
F. Soviet ambassador in USA M. Dobrynin writes in his memoirs that during 1983-4 Soviet intelligence had undertaken unprecedented in scale operation, trying to detect signs of preparation to nuclear strike against USSR - about possibility of which Andropov: suspected of being a Mason got warnings through mysterious even for KGB channels.
Here it can be said that Soviet psi-warfare experts made their own use out of popular in '50s in USA & other Western countries "Soviet nuclear scare": Western propaganda has successfully enough intimidated its own population with threat of "Soviet secret agents with nuclear suitcases" (see, eg, F. Forsythe's "Fourth Protocol" - which was read with high interest even by Mrs. Thatcher) - preparing thus fertile psychological grounds for Western "nuclear protest movements".
Now such heavy & inelegantly crude instrument as "nuclear blackmail" (even virtual) is relegated to such outsiders as "rogue states" and/or "international terrorists'; - and members of "Inner Circle" (including China and perhaps f. Iraq) are preferring to operate such more handy instrument as "(virtual) psychotronic blackmail" - which not only offers lesser probability of dangerous accidents, but promises incomparably greater rewards personally to its operators: which, almost without exception, - as are most members of international-level intellectual elite, - are dedicated to the idea of Global Commonwealth of Intellectuals: some variant of old idea of International Government of Scientists (publicized by Masonic/Theosophic/Rosicrucian sources as "Global Spiritual Government of Shamballa").
Ah yes, "Morning of the Magicians" by Pauwels and Bergier, and similar pop books on the Tibetan-Occult Nazi-Theosophy-Vril-Thule links in the 20's - 30's.
"Any talk about psi-weapons does attract welcome interest (and, possibly, even more welcome funds) to this problem; - which, in order to be widely enough publicized, must necessarily have its own highly dedicated adversaries (as its partisans simply cannot start hot enough controversy among themselves!).
Never trusting anything to chance KGB had personally selected in Soviet times "professional psi-(or UFO etc.)debunkers"; - which were periodically activated, if there appeared a need to carry some action of "psychotronic intimidation" of foreign governments. (The actual intimidation "at close range" was performed by foreign colleagues of Soviet psi-researchers (or rather their Masonic bosses) - which highly benefited from government funding of explorations how to neutralize Soviet psi-menace.) Such a system functioned before "perestroika" more or less smoothly & efficiently as an Engine of Progress; - helping to maintain sufficiently high but well-regulated level of "international psi-voltage", sufficient for driving The Wheels of Progress with ever increasing speed. (Many of most interesting works - especially in USSR - in such "exotic" areas as vacuum explorations, non-local communication etc."
I have basically solved all that now in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
The handwriting is on the wall. From here on it's a downhill slide and a mop-up operation of R&D. Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point" should be remaindered. :-)
"will never be undertaken without such "cold war engine"; - which became clear when Soviet science
collapsed after "catastroika". Of course, job-deprived scientists eagerly wish to rebuild a similar - but, if possibly, having more reliable character - mechanism for effectuating necessary interaction between Science & Society; - believing that their US colleagues, which (as they think) started global antiterrorist campaign as a kind of substitute to Cold War, do also share their expectations.)
As says social synrgetics, - confirming empirical data of social scientists of former ages, - dynamic stabilization of as complex system as global community needs an input of "controlled chaos"; - perhaps, even having format of "less-than-war" paramilitary operations in order to prevent formation of large hidden pockets of destructive energies: cf. prevention of destructive avalanches by properly timed preventive explosions. There is deep wisdom in words of St. Paul: "when everyone will speak only about Peace then disaster will befall them". So realistically thinking political leaders must be concerned not with Establishing of Paradise on Earth - which is a business for angels - but with not allowing our planet to sink too deep into Hell: which, according to all esoteric teachings, Earth actually is - recall that in Bible Satan: Lord of Hell is called "Prince of This World"!
Naturally, a new kind of World Balance technologies, - now involving use of data of Leading Edge research, - calls for a new kind of people to carry through these policies; - and such people preferably must have a good scientific education. (Here Mrs Lapayeva & her followers see promise of their eventual victory - because old generation politicians will be simply unable to communicate with their foreign counterparts at, say, negotiations for limitation of psychotronic/genome arms' race. Such negotiations, of course, will be best advertisement & promotion to progress of these - and other - new supertechnologies, providing with rewarding jobs large numbers of highly intelligent well-educated people: the finest flower & best hope of Humankind.)
Their education must necessarily include also mind-expanding technologies; - so that they might contain without difficulties Machiavellian/Orwellian (see also Kautilya's "Arthashastra") "double thinking" - which needs higher-dimensional psychobiocomputers. (In higher-dimensional spaces it's quite natural for objects to move simultaneously in different directions - as well as it's quite natural for quantum computers to be simultaneously in several states: present-day "postmodern approach" is an attempt to realize such "quantum world vision".)
Here I can only solidarize with mentioned in G. Zukav's "Dancing Wu Li masters" slogan of MIT (or perhaps SRI) Leading Edge physicists: "Attention! Study of physics can expand your awareness!"; - recommending future political leaders to study modern physics (or better mathematics) - even if not too deeply, which may become addictive. I wish to thank also you for your extensive informational exchange activities in the area of high-tech weapons' politics; - which help scientists & political activists of different countries to establish closer "psychic entanglement", - which will be very helpful in process of formation of necessary (if humankind wishes to survive) for sustaining even relative peace (while allowing to promote Progress, which is often omitted by too short-sighted proponents of Sustainable Development: but the world will turn into worst hell if to deprive people from opportunity to grow) International Government of Scientists: "realpolitik incarnation" of Global Noospheric Brain/Mind of Teilard/Vernadsky.
I am reminded of H.G. Wells "Things to Come" the ~ 1940 film.
I'd be glad to receive your feedback to this message.
I think you wouldn't object that I'd transmit some of your messages to such my competent & responsible Leading Edge research colleagues as, for example, Acad. Akimov, Acad. Shipov or Prof. Gariaev.
Indeed this should all be public information. It is too important to be kept secret. The Fate not only of this Planet, but of the entire Universe is now in our hands as Sir Martin Rees points out in "Our Final Hour" Chapter 9.
With best wishes, Sincerely yours Constantin I. Ivanenko
OK I am now happy with the current error-corrected version of my coming Oct 24, 2003 talk in Austin Texas that partly deals with what you talk about below.
Make sure all your really serious people in your Network in Russia and elsewhere very carefully study my talk at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
or
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
for point and click interactive slide show.
They can ask me questions.
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Constantin Ivanenko wrote:
"Dear Mr Sarfatti!
Was glad to receive this highly important message.
The problem of Chinese WMD is also ocupying attention of competent & responsible people in Russia; - concerned with future of our national security. Such concern has sufficient reason - as there are widely known intense Chinese activities in Russia, aimed at legal and/or illegal acquisition of Russian defence-oriented and/or double use technologies; - especially those of Leading Edge level, including vacuum & psychotronic technologies.
Chinese are behaving in Russia much bolder than in USA & other Western countries (where they also try to get new military technologies); - as, besides of higher corruptbility of Russian officials (and poor starving defence scientists & engineers: immediate owners of know-how, with whom Chinese agents try to make drect deals when possible), there may exist a measure of political support on part of former non-converted (if even they'd offered some lip service to "democratization") Communists - which are glad to support their "ideological comrades". (Perhaps, because of this were hushed some legal actions undertaken in cases of most blatant violations of laws governing exports of technologies having possible military applications.)"
The paragraph below partly deals with the activities of John Petersen at the Arlington Institute on the DC Beltway as explained in a Washington Post article a few years back. See also "Remote Viewers" by Jim Schnabel.
"As I've noted in my previous email, there are also Russian "democratic" ideological sympathizers to China
- and also people, believed to be connected with "military masonic elite" (people of this kind, - which could be regarded as Russian counterparts of members of US Pentagon Meditation Club, - had reintroduced in Russian Army General HQ seances of collective meditation, periodically performed in f. USSR in '20s-'30s, until its organizers, which were followers of Masonic/Rosicrucian Initiate Nicholas Roerich, were killed by Stalinists in '37-'38), which have their own complicated agenda in regard to China. (In this connection there may be recalled injunction of A. Bailey: see on pp. 130-34 of "The Externalization of the Hierarchy": "Russia will turn its attention towards East and will effectuate there vast changes as far as Pacific".)
Perhaps, controlled leakage of Leading Edge research data might be most feasible in current situation way to effectuate such changes. Here may be recalled essentially similar situation with so-called "Soviet atomic espionage" in USA during & after WWII; - which, as say some US experts (see, eg, on pp. 368-69 of R. Vesco & D. Childres' "Man-made UFOs", AUP Press, 1994), was not only tolerated but even covertly encouraged by top US authorities (which allegedly belonged to then variant of mentioned by you "Trotskyite/neocon cabal"; in "Pentagon Aliens" of W. Lyne they're called "military masonic elite").
In fact, otherwise it'll be difficult to explain how guarded 24 hours a day top US nuclear experts like Einstein, Oppenheimer, Fermi & others could not only pass information to Soviet KGBeasts (which were under observation of US intelligence, as those bloody thugs stood out against more civilized background of scientific community where they moved) but even enjoy services of KGB top-class whores (this allegedly did Einstein - as was published in one of "Sci. Am." articles).
Reason for this was quite clear; - as it was said in "Man-made UFOs", "USA could not wage multitrilion-dollar arms' race with itself". It needed well-controlled "sparring partner" - and such partner was found in Soviet "military masonic elite" (which was founded by Leon Trotsky - which introduced Masonic 5-pointed star as symbol of Red Army: whose colour corresponds to that of Crown of Ancient Lower Egypt - while white colour of US Army 5-pointed star is that of Crown of Upper Egypt!), which even Stalin could not totally exterminate.
As say some people, feeling "cold war nostalgia" (of whom there is a considerable number among now jobless & starving members of f. Soviet military-industrial-scientific complex), organizaton of "cold war" must be regarded as supremely successful feat of global-scale social engineering; - which allowed to promote scientific & technological progress with unprecedented-in-history speed (which might be critically important for the survival of Earth, as without Cold War-created nuclear/missile/computer technologies we couldn't defend our planet from possible asteroid/comet impacts - which will bring more devastation than full-scale nuclear war!)."
Yes, see http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
"Responsible organizers, which had no wish to perish in "accidental nuclear holocaust", took due precautions against quite possible incidents; - having established a vastly ramified network of both secret & (semi)official contacts (which were mentioned on pp. 94-95 of '97 edition of Ph. Corso Sr.'s book - and which allegedly helped to defuse timely Caribbean crisis) . I may personally witness truth of Col. Corso's statements in this area, as I myself had participated - in humble (I was just 22-25 years'-old at this time) but responsible role of trusted interpreter/assistant - since 1968 to 1971 in sanctioned by Politbureau confidential (but formally non-secret) meetings between top Soviet psi-research experts under leadership of Dr. Sergeyev ("No. 1 in entire East bloc", according to J. Alexander's '80s estimation) and Western psi-explorers guided by Prof. J. G. Pratt ("No. 1 in USA", according to the same source), who was then working on contract with ONI. (Regretfully, now Prof. Pratt is also dead; - but my words might be confirmed by still productively working in NY Maimonides Hospital Dr. Montague Ullman, - with whom Dr. Sergeyev & me met exactly 35 years ago: on 14-16 Oct '68 - I've well remembered this date as 14 Oct is my birthday.)
Let's hope that similar precautions are taken now in regard to technology transmission to China (Russian experts believe that when USA allows numerous "controlled technology leakages" to China, they also take similar precautions - perhaps, members of Russian and American "secret elite" even coordinate their activities in this area: cf. some aspects of "US-USSR-China leakage plot", described in "Dunn's Conundrum" by S. Lee; Sphere Books, 1986); - else living on this planet will become very soon a very uncomfortable occupation.
Regretfully, I can only hope - as I've lost access to reliable sources of information on secret Russo-Chinese transactions since death of my respected teacher (in life as well as in science) Dr. Sergeyev (who had good connections in military intelligence community); - which happened on 29 Oct 1999: soon before end of "overpermissive" rule of Yeltsin (KGB-educated Putin tries to put restrictions on sensitive activities of military intelligence: long-time rival of KGB, as correctly noted Col. Corso).
Many analysts here, concerned with problem of "exotic WMD", - which have considerable "psychological warfare" skills but little serious scientific training, - have no choice but to regard this problem from their specific viewpoint: as another instrument of psychological warfare; - which is much more handy than, say, use in the role of instruments of intimidation & political coercion threats with nuclear (and other "hard") weapons, as it can be used in "virtual format" (that is, it can produce psychological impression - if not on experts, then on gullible public opinion: this "democracy's soft underbelly" - but no tangible proofs, incriminating its alleged users, can ever be found: cf. situation with Iraqi WMD!)."
You make a very important point here that applies to the American Intelligence as well as the Russian. I have hit my head against this stone wall for decades now. Martin Rees's book and the discovery of dark energy may finally awaken the Ostriches from their "dogmatic slumbers." :-)
"First this term became publicized around 1984 - at the peak of alleged Reagan's preparations to deliver pre-emptive nuclear strike to f. USSR (see "Dunn's Conundrum") - by Soviet-sympathizing "left ecologist" J. Schell (who employed the term "virtual nuclear weapons" in a slightly different role).
At this critical for USSR time Soviet "influence agents" in the West started coordinated campaign of psychological warfare against governments of England & West Germany which allowed installation in their countries of US first strike weapons: cruise missiles & "Pershings-2"; - which "could fly in any selected window of Kremlin" just few minutes after launch, so that elderly Soviet rulers will not have time not only get to nuclear shelter but even to put on their trousers. It was rumoured that compact nuclear charges were secretly implanted by Soviet agents in key sensitive places of England & W. Germany (possibly near government residences); - which'll be activated in case of US nuclear attack on USSR: it was as impossible to determine, in then real political situation, whether such rumours were false or true as to know whether Schroedinger's Cat is alive or dead without opening its box (which in case of "nuclear cat" will become political Box of Pandora!). That can be called a most spectacular example of use of "virtual nuclear weapons technology" - which, involving as little real risk as possible, is fail-safe: always some psychologically unstable fraction of population will believe gladly in alarming news (like modern ecoalarmists or believers in near Apocalypse); - and, if their percentage (and especially mental coherence of their psi-fields: cf. TM data on organization of collective meditations) will be high enough, they might force their own governments to accede to Soviet demands - without a need for the latter to move a finger!"
This is a dangerous problem here because the Lunatic Religious Right in America believes in Apocalypse Now and allegedly have influence on the mind of President Bush. The Neo Con policy of using Bismarck's "Iron Heel" adds to the growing instability. The Neo Cons are in alliance with extremists in Israel who also share the Apocalyptic Vision of the American Religious Simpleton's. Add to this boiling pot, the extremists from Islam and we have a very dangerous situation with Nuts in Power. Fortunately, now it looks as though the saner elements of the Bush Administration i.e. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice and the CIA are in the ascendancy against Rumsfeld's Neo Con Jacobites rushing in where Angels Fear to Tread. The Neo Cons do seem to be right in one tactic, the Al Qaeda seems to be flocking to Baghdad and not to Boston. Most of Iraq now seems to be pacified except for a relatively small, but important area including Baghdad and Saddam's home town.
F. Soviet ambassador in USA M. Dobrynin writes in his memoirs that during 1983-4 Soviet intelligence had undertaken unprecedented in scale operation, trying to detect signs of preparation to nuclear strike against USSR - about possibility of which Andropov: suspected of being a Mason got warnings through mysterious even for KGB > channels.
Here it can be said that Soviet psi-warfare experts made their own use out of popular in '50s in USA & other Western countries "Soviet nuclear scare": Western propaganda has successfully enough intimidated its own population with threat of "Soviet secret agents with nuclear suitcases" (see, eg, F. Forsythe's "Fourth Protocol" - which was read with high interest even by Mrs. Thatcher) - preparing thus fertile psychological grounds for Western "nuclear protest movements".
Now such heavy & inelegantly crude instrument as "nuclear blackmail" (even virtual) is relegated to such outsiders as "rogue states" and/or "international terrorists'; - and members of "Inner Circle" (including China and perhaps f. Iraq) are preferring to operate such more handy instrument as "(virtual) psychotronic blackmail" - which not only offers lesser probability of dangerous accidents, but promises incomparably greater rewards personally to its operators: which, almost without exception, - as are
most members of international-level intellectual elite, - are dedicated to the idea of Global Commonwealth of Intellectuals: some variant of old idea of International Government of Scientists (publicized by Masonic/Theosophic/Rosicrucian sources as "Global Spiritual Government of Shamballa").
Ah yes, "Morning of the Magicians" by Pauwels and Bergier, and similar pop books on the Tibetan-Occult Nazi-Theosophy-Vril-Thule links in the 20's - 30's.
"Any talk about psi-weapons does attract welcome interest (and, possibly, even more welcome funds) to this problem; - which, in order to be widely enough publicized, must necessarily have its own highly dedicated adversaries (as its partisans simply cannot start hot enough controversy among themselves!).
Never trusting anything to chance KGB had personally selected in Soviet times "professional psi-(or UFO etc.)debunkers"; - which were periodically activated, if there appeared a need to carry some action of "psychotronic intimidation" of foreign governments. (The actual intimidation "at close range" was performed by foreign colleagues of Soviet psi-researchers (or rather their Masonic bosses) - which highly benefited from government funding of explorations how to neutralize Soviet psi-menace.) Such a system functioned before "perestroika" more or less smoothly & efficiently as an Engine of Progress; - helping to maintain sufficiently high but well-regulated level of "international psi-voltage", sufficient for driving The Wheels of Progress with ever increasing speed. (Many of most interesting works - especially in USSR - in such "exotic" areas as vacuum explorations, non-local communication etc."
I have basically solved all that now in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
The handwriting is on the wall. From here on it's a downhill slide and a mop-up operation of R&D. Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point" should be remaindered. :-)
"will never be undertaken without such "cold war engine"; - which became clear when Soviet science
collapsed after "catastroika". Of course, job-deprived scientists eagerly wish to rebuild a similar - but, if possibly, having more reliable character - mechanism for effectuating necessary interaction between Science & Society; - believing that their US colleagues, which (as they think) started global antiterrorist campaign as a kind of substitute to Cold War, do also share their expectations.)
As says social synrgetics, - confirming empirical data of social scientists of former ages, - dynamic stabilization of as complex system as global community needs an input of "controlled chaos"; - perhaps, even having format of "less-than-war" paramilitary operations in order to prevent formation of large hidden pockets of destructive energies: cf. prevention of destructive avalanches by properly timed preventive explosions. There is deep wisdom in words of St. Paul: "when everyone will speak only about Peace then disaster will befall them". So realistically thinking political leaders must be concerned not with Establishing of Paradise on Earth - which is a business for angels - but with not allowing our planet to sink too deep into Hell: which, according to all esoteric teachings, Earth actually is - recall that in Bible Satan: Lord of Hell is called "Prince of This World"!
Naturally, a new kind of World Balance technologies, - now involving use of data of Leading Edge research, - calls for a new kind of people to carry through these policies; - and such people preferably must have a good scientific education. (Here Mrs Lapayeva & her followers see promise of their eventual victory - because old generation politicians will be simply unable to communicate with their foreign counterparts at, say, negotiations for limitation of psychotronic/genome arms' race. Such negotiations, of course, will be best advertisement & promotion to progress of these - and other - new supertechnologies, providing with rewarding jobs large numbers of highly intelligent well-educated people: the finest flower & best hope of Humankind.)
Their education must necessarily include also mind-expanding technologies; - so that they might contain without difficulties Machiavellian/Orwellian (see also Kautilya's "Arthashastra") "double thinking" - which needs higher-dimensional psychobiocomputers. (In higher-dimensional spaces it's quite natural for objects to move simultaneously in different directions - as well as it's quite natural for quantum computers to be simultaneously in several states: present-day "postmodern approach" is an attempt to realize such "quantum world vision".)
Here I can only solidarize with mentioned in G. Zukav's "Dancing Wu Li masters" slogan of MIT (or perhaps SRI) Leading Edge physicists: "Attention! Study of physics can expand your awareness!"; - recommending future political leaders to study modern physics (or better mathematics) - even if not too deeply, which may become addictive. I wish to thank also you for your extensive informational exchange activities in the area of high-tech weapons' politics; - which help scientists & political activists of different countries to establish closer "psychic entanglement", - which will be very helpful in process of formation of necessary (if humankind wishes to survive) for sustaining even relative peace (while allowing to promote Progress, which is often omitted by too shrt-sighted proponents of Sustainable Development: but the world will turn into worst hell if to deprive people from opportunity to grow) International Government of Scientists: "realpolitik incarnation" of Global Noospheric Brain/Mind of Teilard/Vernadsky.
I'd be glad to receive your feedback to this message.
I think you wouldn't object that I'd transmit some of your messages to such my competent & responsible Leading Edge research colleagues as, for example, Acad. Akimov, Acad. Shipov or Prof. Gariaev.
Indeed this should all be public information. It is too important to be kept secret. The Fate not only of this Planet, but of the entire Universe is now in our hands as Sir Martin Rees points out in "Our Final Hour" Chapter 9.
With best wishes, Sincerely yours Constantin I. Ivanenko
Make sure all your really serious people in your Network in Russia and elsewhere very carefully study my talk at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
or
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
for point and click interactive slide show.
They can ask me questions.
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Constantin Ivanenko wrote:
"Dear Mr Sarfatti!
Was glad to receive this highly important message.
The problem of Chinese WMD is also ocupying attention of competent & responsible people in Russia; - concerned with future of our national security. Such concern has sufficient reason - as there are widely known intense Chinese activities in Russia, aimed at legal and/or illegal acquisition of Russian defence-oriented and/or double use technologies; - especially those of Leading Edge level, including vacuum & psychotronic technologies.
Chinese are behaving in Russia much bolder than in USA & other Western countries (where they also try to get new military technologies); - as, besides of higher corruptbility of Russian officials (and poor starving defence scientists & engineers: immediate owners of know-how, with whom Chinese agents try to make drect deals when possible), there may exist a measure of political support on part of former non-converted (if even they'd offered some lip service to "democratization") Communists - which are glad to support their "ideological comrades". (Perhaps, because of this were hushed some legal actions undertaken in cases of most blatant violations of laws governing exports of technologies having possible military applications.)"
The paragraph below partly deals with the activities of John Petersen at the Arlington Institute on the DC Beltway as explained in a Washington Post article a few years back. See also "Remote Viewers" by Jim Schnabel.
"As I've noted in my previous email, there are also Russian "democratic" ideological sympathizers to China
- and also people, believed to be connected with "military masonic elite" (people of this kind, - which could be regarded as Russian counterparts of members of US Pentagon Meditation Club, - had reintroduced in Russian Army General HQ seances of collective meditation, periodically performed in f. USSR in '20s-'30s, until its organizers, which were followers of Masonic/Rosicrucian Initiate Nicholas Roerich, were killed by Stalinists in '37-'38), which have their own complicated agenda in regard to China. (In this connection there may be recalled injunction of A. Bailey: see on pp. 130-34 of "The Externalization of the Hierarchy": "Russia will turn its attention towards East and will effectuate there vast changes as far as Pacific".)
Perhaps, controlled leakage of Leading Edge research data might be most feasible in current situation way to effectuate such changes. Here may be recalled essentially similar situation with so-called "Soviet atomic espionage" in USA during & after WWII; - which, as say some US experts (see, eg, on pp. 368-69 of R. Vesco & D. Childres' "Man-made UFOs", AUP Press, 1994), was not only tolerated but even covertly encouraged by top US authorities (which allegedly belonged to then variant of mentioned by you "Trotskyite/neocon cabal"; in "Pentagon Aliens" of W. Lyne they're called "military masonic elite").
In fact, otherwise it'll be difficult to explain how guarded 24 hours a day top US nuclear experts like Einstein, Oppenheimer, Fermi & others could not only pass information to Soviet KGBeasts (which were under observation of US intelligence, as those bloody thugs stood out against more civilized background of scientific community where they moved) but even enjoy services of KGB top-class whores (this allegedly did Einstein - as was published in one of "Sci. Am." articles).
Reason for this was quite clear; - as it was said in "Man-made UFOs", "USA could not wage multitrilion-dollar arms' race with itself". It needed well-controlled "sparring partner" - and such partner was found in Soviet "military masonic elite" (which was founded by Leon Trotsky - which introduced Masonic 5-pointed star as symbol of Red Army: whose colour corresponds to that of Crown of Ancient Lower Egypt - while white colour of US Army 5-pointed star is that of Crown of Upper Egypt!), which even Stalin could not totally exterminate.
As say some people, feeling "cold war nostalgia" (of whom there is a considerable number among now jobless & starving members of f. Soviet military-industrial-scientific complex), organizaton of "cold war" must be regarded as supremely successful feat of global-scale social engineering; - which allowed to promote scientific & technological progress with unprecedented-in-history speed (which might be critically important for the survival of Earth, as without Cold War-created nuclear/missile/computer technologies we couldn't defend our planet from possible asteroid/comet impacts - which will bring more devastation than full-scale nuclear war!)."
Yes, see http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
"Responsible organizers, which had no wish to perish in "accidental nuclear holocaust", took due precautions against quite possible incidents; - having established a vastly ramified network of both secret & (semi)official contacts (which were mentioned on pp. 94-95 of '97 edition of Ph. Corso Sr.'s book - and which allegedly helped to defuse timely Caribbean crisis) . I may personally witness truth of Col. Corso's statements in this area, as I myself had participated - in humble (I was just 22-25 years'-old at this time) but responsible role of trusted interpreter/assistant - since 1968 to 1971 in sanctioned by Politbureau confidential (but formally non-secret) meetings between top Soviet psi-research experts under leadership of Dr. Sergeyev ("No. 1 in entire East bloc", according to J. Alexander's '80s estimation) and Western psi-explorers guided by Prof. J. G. Pratt ("No. 1 in USA", according to the same source), who was then working on contract with ONI. (Regretfully, now Prof. Pratt is also dead; - but my words might be confirmed by still productively working in NY Maimonides Hospital Dr. Montague Ullman, - with whom Dr. Sergeyev & me met exactly 35 years ago: on 14-16 Oct '68 - I've well remembered this date as 14 Oct is my birthday.)
Let's hope that similar precautions are taken now in regard to technology transmission to China (Russian experts believe that when USA allows numerous "controlled technology leakages" to China, they also take similar precautions - perhaps, members of Russian and American "secret elite" even coordinate their activities in this area: cf. some aspects of "US-USSR-China leakage plot", described in "Dunn's Conundrum" by S. Lee; Sphere Books, 1986); - else living on this planet will become very soon a very uncomfortable occupation.
Regretfully, I can only hope - as I've lost access to reliable sources of information on secret Russo-Chinese transactions since death of my respected teacher (in life as well as in science) Dr. Sergeyev (who had good connections in military intelligence community); - which happened on 29 Oct 1999: soon before end of "overpermissive" rule of Yeltsin (KGB-educated Putin tries to put restrictions on sensitive activities of military intelligence: long-time rival of KGB, as correctly noted Col. Corso).
Many analysts here, concerned with problem of "exotic WMD", - which have considerable "psychological warfare" skills but little serious scientific training, - have no choice but to regard this problem from their specific viewpoint: as another instrument of psychological warfare; - which is much more handy than, say, use in the role of instruments of intimidation & political coercion threats with nuclear (and other "hard") weapons, as it can be used in "virtual format" (that is, it can produce psychological impression - if not on experts, then on gullible public opinion: this "democracy's soft underbelly" - but no tangible proofs, incriminating its alleged users, can ever be found: cf. situation with Iraqi WMD!)."
You make a very important point here that applies to the American Intelligence as well as the Russian. I have hit my head against this stone wall for decades now. Martin Rees's book and the discovery of dark energy may finally awaken the Ostriches from their "dogmatic slumbers." :-)
"First this term became publicized around 1984 - at the peak of alleged Reagan's preparations to deliver pre-emptive nuclear strike to f. USSR (see "Dunn's Conundrum") - by Soviet-sympathizing "left ecologist" J. Schell (who employed the term "virtual nuclear weapons" in a slightly different role).
At this critical for USSR time Soviet "influence agents" in the West started coordinated campaign of psychological warfare against governments of England & West Germany which allowed installation in their countries of US first strike weapons: cruise missiles & "Pershings-2"; - which "could fly in any selected window of Kremlin" just few minutes after launch, so that elderly Soviet rulers will not have time not only get to nuclear shelter but even to put on their trousers. It was rumoured that compact nuclear charges were secretly implanted by Soviet agents in key sensitive places of England & W. Germany (possibly near government residences); - which'll be activated in case of US nuclear attack on USSR: it was as impossible to determine, in then real political situation, whether such rumours were false or true as to know whether Schroedinger's Cat is alive or dead without opening its box (which in case of "nuclear cat" will become political Box of Pandora!). That can be called a most spectacular example of use of "virtual nuclear weapons technology" - which, involving as little real risk as possible, is fail-safe: always some psychologically unstable fraction of population will believe gladly in alarming news (like modern ecoalarmists or believers in near Apocalypse); - and, if their percentage (and especially mental coherence of their psi-fields: cf. TM data on organization of collective meditations) will be high enough, they might force their own governments to accede to Soviet demands - without a need for the latter to move a finger!"
This is a dangerous problem here because the Lunatic Religious Right in America believes in Apocalypse Now and allegedly have influence on the mind of President Bush. The Neo Con policy of using Bismarck's "Iron Heel" adds to the growing instability. The Neo Cons are in alliance with extremists in Israel who also share the Apocalyptic Vision of the American Religious Simpleton's. Add to this boiling pot, the extremists from Islam and we have a very dangerous situation with Nuts in Power. Fortunately, now it looks as though the saner elements of the Bush Administration i.e. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice and the CIA are in the ascendancy against Rumsfeld's Neo Con Jacobites rushing in where Angels Fear to Tread. The Neo Cons do seem to be right in one tactic, the Al Qaeda seems to be flocking to Baghdad and not to Boston. Most of Iraq now seems to be pacified except for a relatively small, but important area including Baghdad and Saddam's home town.
F. Soviet ambassador in USA M. Dobrynin writes in his memoirs that during 1983-4 Soviet intelligence had undertaken unprecedented in scale operation, trying to detect signs of preparation to nuclear strike against USSR - about possibility of which Andropov: suspected of being a Mason got warnings through mysterious even for KGB > channels.
Here it can be said that Soviet psi-warfare experts made their own use out of popular in '50s in USA & other Western countries "Soviet nuclear scare": Western propaganda has successfully enough intimidated its own population with threat of "Soviet secret agents with nuclear suitcases" (see, eg, F. Forsythe's "Fourth Protocol" - which was read with high interest even by Mrs. Thatcher) - preparing thus fertile psychological grounds for Western "nuclear protest movements".
Now such heavy & inelegantly crude instrument as "nuclear blackmail" (even virtual) is relegated to such outsiders as "rogue states" and/or "international terrorists'; - and members of "Inner Circle" (including China and perhaps f. Iraq) are preferring to operate such more handy instrument as "(virtual) psychotronic blackmail" - which not only offers lesser probability of dangerous accidents, but promises incomparably greater rewards personally to its operators: which, almost without exception, - as are
most members of international-level intellectual elite, - are dedicated to the idea of Global Commonwealth of Intellectuals: some variant of old idea of International Government of Scientists (publicized by Masonic/Theosophic/Rosicrucian sources as "Global Spiritual Government of Shamballa").
Ah yes, "Morning of the Magicians" by Pauwels and Bergier, and similar pop books on the Tibetan-Occult Nazi-Theosophy-Vril-Thule links in the 20's - 30's.
"Any talk about psi-weapons does attract welcome interest (and, possibly, even more welcome funds) to this problem; - which, in order to be widely enough publicized, must necessarily have its own highly dedicated adversaries (as its partisans simply cannot start hot enough controversy among themselves!).
Never trusting anything to chance KGB had personally selected in Soviet times "professional psi-(or UFO etc.)debunkers"; - which were periodically activated, if there appeared a need to carry some action of "psychotronic intimidation" of foreign governments. (The actual intimidation "at close range" was performed by foreign colleagues of Soviet psi-researchers (or rather their Masonic bosses) - which highly benefited from government funding of explorations how to neutralize Soviet psi-menace.) Such a system functioned before "perestroika" more or less smoothly & efficiently as an Engine of Progress; - helping to maintain sufficiently high but well-regulated level of "international psi-voltage", sufficient for driving The Wheels of Progress with ever increasing speed. (Many of most interesting works - especially in USSR - in such "exotic" areas as vacuum explorations, non-local communication etc."
I have basically solved all that now in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
The handwriting is on the wall. From here on it's a downhill slide and a mop-up operation of R&D. Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point" should be remaindered. :-)
"will never be undertaken without such "cold war engine"; - which became clear when Soviet science
collapsed after "catastroika". Of course, job-deprived scientists eagerly wish to rebuild a similar - but, if possibly, having more reliable character - mechanism for effectuating necessary interaction between Science & Society; - believing that their US colleagues, which (as they think) started global antiterrorist campaign as a kind of substitute to Cold War, do also share their expectations.)
As says social synrgetics, - confirming empirical data of social scientists of former ages, - dynamic stabilization of as complex system as global community needs an input of "controlled chaos"; - perhaps, even having format of "less-than-war" paramilitary operations in order to prevent formation of large hidden pockets of destructive energies: cf. prevention of destructive avalanches by properly timed preventive explosions. There is deep wisdom in words of St. Paul: "when everyone will speak only about Peace then disaster will befall them". So realistically thinking political leaders must be concerned not with Establishing of Paradise on Earth - which is a business for angels - but with not allowing our planet to sink too deep into Hell: which, according to all esoteric teachings, Earth actually is - recall that in Bible Satan: Lord of Hell is called "Prince of This World"!
Naturally, a new kind of World Balance technologies, - now involving use of data of Leading Edge research, - calls for a new kind of people to carry through these policies; - and such people preferably must have a good scientific education. (Here Mrs Lapayeva & her followers see promise of their eventual victory - because old generation politicians will be simply unable to communicate with their foreign counterparts at, say, negotiations for limitation of psychotronic/genome arms' race. Such negotiations, of course, will be best advertisement & promotion to progress of these - and other - new supertechnologies, providing with rewarding jobs large numbers of highly intelligent well-educated people: the finest flower & best hope of Humankind.)
Their education must necessarily include also mind-expanding technologies; - so that they might contain without difficulties Machiavellian/Orwellian (see also Kautilya's "Arthashastra") "double thinking" - which needs higher-dimensional psychobiocomputers. (In higher-dimensional spaces it's quite natural for objects to move simultaneously in different directions - as well as it's quite natural for quantum computers to be simultaneously in several states: present-day "postmodern approach" is an attempt to realize such "quantum world vision".)
Here I can only solidarize with mentioned in G. Zukav's "Dancing Wu Li masters" slogan of MIT (or perhaps SRI) Leading Edge physicists: "Attention! Study of physics can expand your awareness!"; - recommending future political leaders to study modern physics (or better mathematics) - even if not too deeply, which may become addictive. I wish to thank also you for your extensive informational exchange activities in the area of high-tech weapons' politics; - which help scientists & political activists of different countries to establish closer "psychic entanglement", - which will be very helpful in process of formation of necessary (if humankind wishes to survive) for sustaining even relative peace (while allowing to promote Progress, which is often omitted by too shrt-sighted proponents of Sustainable Development: but the world will turn into worst hell if to deprive people from opportunity to grow) International Government of Scientists: "realpolitik incarnation" of Global Noospheric Brain/Mind of Teilard/Vernadsky.
I'd be glad to receive your feedback to this message.
I think you wouldn't object that I'd transmit some of your messages to such my competent & responsible Leading Edge research colleagues as, for example, Acad. Akimov, Acad. Shipov or Prof. Gariaev.
Indeed this should all be public information. It is too important to be kept secret. The Fate not only of this Planet, but of the entire Universe is now in our hands as Sir Martin Rees points out in "Our Final Hour" Chapter 9.
With best wishes, Sincerely yours Constantin I. Ivanenko
Sunday, October 19, 2003
From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:59:09 PM US/Pacific
To: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: WMD Neo Con Movie
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 04:49 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
Jack,
What does rtenore@pacbell.net have to say about the article by Tim Folger in
*Discover* (June 2002) based on an interview with Wheeler?
The title is "Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking?" and the gist of
the article is contained in the statement directly under the title:
"Eminent physicist John Wheeler says he has only enough time left to
work on one idea: that human consciousness shapes not only the present but
the past as well."
That sounds like advanced causation, pre-sponse, teleology at least at first sight, certainly to the average intelligent reader.
The problem with Gardner, Frazier, Klass, Sheaffer is that "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing." They are all
bright, but basically journalists not scientists. Their knowledge and understanding is too limited to grapple with the really
deep issues of physics involved. They look for simplistic comforting "noble lies" like the Neo Cons in the wake of Leo Strauss
at the University of Chicago several decades ago that led to our over-enthusiastic "pre-emptive policy." Good news that
Condoleeza Rice is reining in the Wolfowitz Cabal over at the Pentagon a bit. President Bush is finally wising up to advice
that both State and CIA have been trying to get through to him. The Neo Cons may have meant well, but were too simplistic.
Same for the CSICOPS.
Apparently, Wheeler believes that a recording device (presumably built
by a human) can play the role of consciousness in "collapsing the wave
function."
Of course I do not buy the fairy tale that consciousness actively collapses the micro-quantum wave, nor is it passively generated in such collapse even though Von Neumann, London, Wigner, Wheeler, Stapp and Penrose all have bought into that idea. I agree with Basil Hiley that "collapse" and "consciousness" have little to do with each other. I am able to explain why the "classical world" without all that mumbo-jumbo Deux ex Machina purely in terms of PW Anderson's "More is different".
Micro-quantum theory is linear, unitary, nonlocal in configuration space when entangled and has signal-locality. There is no such thing as "quantum consciousness." I agree with David Deutsch on that part.
When instability creeps into a micro-quantum ground state of a many-particle system, sometimes a self-organizing spontaneous breaking of some symmetry group happens and there is a phase transition of the micro-quantum ground state to a MACRO-quantum ground state with a "ODLRO" macroscopic occupation of a much smaller region of the original phase space for a system of identical "bosons" (either quasi-particles or collective modes). This means a lowering of the non-thermodynamic "entropy" that allows new emergent order. More is different.
The linear unitary nonlocal Schrodinger micro-quantum wave equation is replaced by the nonlinear non-unitary local Landau-Ginzburg equation for the MACRO-quantum wave in ordinary space. This is why space-time physics is "local" as I show in some detail in the case of Einstein's geometrodynamics and unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields emergent from the obvious instability in the Dirac electron micro-quantum vacuum in globally flat space-time.
A similar thing happens in the living brain. Our mind is a GIANT MACRO-quantum bit local wave in two-way relation with electrical dipole configurations that couple to nerve impulses, chemical messengers etc. Direct back-reaction from the electric dipoles to this mind wave generates inner experience. The basic dynamics is Landau-Ginzburg not Schrodinger. Macro-quantum coherence is strangely local with signal nonlocality or "presponse" just as micro-quantum systems are nonlocal with signal locality. A bit counter-intuitive I agree.
Andrei Linde (the Stanford Physicist who is famous for his model of the
inflationary big bang) was also interviewed at Wheeler's 90th birthday
festschrift. Of him this article says:
Linde believes that Wheeler's intuition of the participatory nature of
reality is probably right. But he differs with Wheeler on one crucial point.
Linde believes that conscious observers are an essential component of the
universe and cannot be replaced by inanimate objects.
Yes. BTW Michael Turner at APS April in Philly said one of the mysteries is "Why Inflation?"
Linde put it in ad-hoc overnight like Galois, in an act of desperation to get a US Green Card.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. :-)
Well in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
I give an answer to Turner's question "Why Inflation?"
BTW: The Parapsychology Association was accepted into the AAAS in 1969,
when Margaret Mead was the head of the AAAS. Anthropologists tend to be more
accepting of the paranormal, perhaps because they have some experience of it
in their field work.
All for now.
Saul-Paul
----------
From: Jack Sarfatti
To: "rtenore"
Cc: roberto@debunker.com, Kenfrazier@cs.com
Subject: Re: Tribute to John A Wheeler Oct 24, 2003 Austin, Texas
Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2003, 12:16 PM
Memorandum for the Record
Advanced Alien Intelligence Agency
Subject: Skeptical Inquirer: Weapons of Mass Destruction/Deception in
Cyber Space and the New Cosmology of Wheeler's IT FROM BIT
On Resolving The Wheeler Paradox
bcc
Update: There are now 2 new Quick Time versions of my Oct 24, 2003 talk
"What is the Universe made of?"
http://english.ttu.edu/SLS/slsAbstract/Panel_5/ConferenceAbstract_5F.html
in Austin to a mixed audience of academics from both the sciences and
the humanities and the arts.
They are large files ~ 8 meg lavishly illustrated with great art and
photos that are symbols for the great physics concepts. Also some of my
key explanations are animated on a timeline in tiny baby steps that, I
hope, make the logic of my chain of original argumentation easier to
understand even for a non-physicist. I have added Max Tegmark's
objection to the Luminet-Weeks et-al Oct 9, 2003 Nature paper, more on
Wheeler's Vision of "IT FROM BIT" and the "Self-Excited Universe", more
on the exotic WMD issue of Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final
Hour", more on the recent resurgence of seemingly bizarre "homeopathic"
(J. Benveniste) "phantom DNA" (Vladimir Poponin) "psychotronic
torsion field" WMD (Akimov, Shipov) via our correspondent C. Ivanenko
in Saint Petersburg, Russia; also a really detailed animated
explanation of Herman Bondi's idea of negative matter propulsion as the
forerunner of Alcubierre's warp drive metric, how Francis Ford and
Ellie Coppola, under the influence of Saul-Paul Sirag and myself in the
mid-70s, got Carl Sagan started on "Contact" and how that led to Kip
Thorne's 1986 Star Gate (traversable wormhole) paper with "exotic
matter" that today we recognize as "dark energy" exotic vacuum w = -1
that is ~ 73% of the "stuff" of our Universe at least - not sure yet
about "The Universe Next Door." ;-)
A DSL line is adequate to get instant play on the automatic play movie
version:
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
If you save the download and open it directly in Quick Time you can
double the size of the screen for larger text. Even in the Web Browser
version most of the text is readable.
The interacting slide show version
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
where you click on the image to control the progress, exactly as I will
do in Austin, Texas next Friday, you must wait initially a long minute
or two or three depending on your connection speed before it works. It
is not "frozen" as you might think if you are in a hurry.
Note that http://qedcorp.com/APS/
is an open directory with other relevant files.
Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/ has entertaining FLASH animations
related to the high-weirdness of "Tech Gnosis" and its latest "Neo Con"
incursion into War and Peace if you click on the .html files.
I think "rtenore" is actually the highly intelligent hacker "Indrid
Cold", AKA "Dr. Mediocrities" etc. etc. He has the ability to hack into
bcc lists. His open list that he sent in the original message below is
a concatenation of several of my bcc lists. "Cold" seems to be part of
the "high weirdness" Hermetic group of talented cyber-nerds around
Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson in Berkeley in the 70's to the
90's. Some good background reading here is Erik Davis's very excellent
"Techgnosis", also the books by Wilson himself like "The Cosmic
Trigger". Indeed, the best-seller "The Da Vinci Code" is connected with
all this as my book "Destiny Matrix" shows. Another relevant book is
Unberto Ecco's "Foucault's Pendulum" as well as the films by Jean
Cocteau, the film La Jetee, and the book "The Star Gate Conspiracy"
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/stargate.htm with a lot of flaky
Egyptology that I do not buy to be sure. It is a mixed bag. However
what Picknett and Prince write about me in there is accurate.
Traditional straight academics in science will find all this
mind-boggling and really nutty - be warned. The world of long term
strategic "occult" covert international intelligence "psy ops" (e.g.
Paul Wolfowitz's "Neo Con Cabal" off-shoot of Leo Strauss, Ayn Rand
et-al in Don Rumsfeld's Pentagon face of the inner extra-dimensional
Dodecadron rather than the Eye in The Pyramid? See the film "Being
There" with Peter Sellars. :-) )
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html (also May/June &
Sept/Oct Skeptical Inquirer) is a Topsy Turvy Looking Glass Fun House
World - a Lewis Carroll Reality like in the TV series with Patrick
McGoohan "The Prisoner." - The Village http://users.aol.com/theprsnr/
reminds me of San Francisco's North Beach. :-)
Date: Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:59:09 PM US/Pacific
To: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: WMD Neo Con Movie
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 04:49 PM, S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
Jack,
What does rtenore@pacbell.net have to say about the article by Tim Folger in
*Discover* (June 2002) based on an interview with Wheeler?
The title is "Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking?" and the gist of
the article is contained in the statement directly under the title:
"Eminent physicist John Wheeler says he has only enough time left to
work on one idea: that human consciousness shapes not only the present but
the past as well."
That sounds like advanced causation, pre-sponse, teleology at least at first sight, certainly to the average intelligent reader.
The problem with Gardner, Frazier, Klass, Sheaffer is that "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing." They are all
bright, but basically journalists not scientists. Their knowledge and understanding is too limited to grapple with the really
deep issues of physics involved. They look for simplistic comforting "noble lies" like the Neo Cons in the wake of Leo Strauss
at the University of Chicago several decades ago that led to our over-enthusiastic "pre-emptive policy." Good news that
Condoleeza Rice is reining in the Wolfowitz Cabal over at the Pentagon a bit. President Bush is finally wising up to advice
that both State and CIA have been trying to get through to him. The Neo Cons may have meant well, but were too simplistic.
Same for the CSICOPS.
Apparently, Wheeler believes that a recording device (presumably built
by a human) can play the role of consciousness in "collapsing the wave
function."
Of course I do not buy the fairy tale that consciousness actively collapses the micro-quantum wave, nor is it passively generated in such collapse even though Von Neumann, London, Wigner, Wheeler, Stapp and Penrose all have bought into that idea. I agree with Basil Hiley that "collapse" and "consciousness" have little to do with each other. I am able to explain why the "classical world" without all that mumbo-jumbo Deux ex Machina purely in terms of PW Anderson's "More is different".
Micro-quantum theory is linear, unitary, nonlocal in configuration space when entangled and has signal-locality. There is no such thing as "quantum consciousness." I agree with David Deutsch on that part.
When instability creeps into a micro-quantum ground state of a many-particle system, sometimes a self-organizing spontaneous breaking of some symmetry group happens and there is a phase transition of the micro-quantum ground state to a MACRO-quantum ground state with a "ODLRO" macroscopic occupation of a much smaller region of the original phase space for a system of identical "bosons" (either quasi-particles or collective modes). This means a lowering of the non-thermodynamic "entropy" that allows new emergent order. More is different.
The linear unitary nonlocal Schrodinger micro-quantum wave equation is replaced by the nonlinear non-unitary local Landau-Ginzburg equation for the MACRO-quantum wave in ordinary space. This is why space-time physics is "local" as I show in some detail in the case of Einstein's geometrodynamics and unified dark energy/matter exotic vacuum fields emergent from the obvious instability in the Dirac electron micro-quantum vacuum in globally flat space-time.
A similar thing happens in the living brain. Our mind is a GIANT MACRO-quantum bit local wave in two-way relation with electrical dipole configurations that couple to nerve impulses, chemical messengers etc. Direct back-reaction from the electric dipoles to this mind wave generates inner experience. The basic dynamics is Landau-Ginzburg not Schrodinger. Macro-quantum coherence is strangely local with signal nonlocality or "presponse" just as micro-quantum systems are nonlocal with signal locality. A bit counter-intuitive I agree.
Andrei Linde (the Stanford Physicist who is famous for his model of the
inflationary big bang) was also interviewed at Wheeler's 90th birthday
festschrift. Of him this article says:
Linde believes that Wheeler's intuition of the participatory nature of
reality is probably right. But he differs with Wheeler on one crucial point.
Linde believes that conscious observers are an essential component of the
universe and cannot be replaced by inanimate objects.
Yes. BTW Michael Turner at APS April in Philly said one of the mysteries is "Why Inflation?"
Linde put it in ad-hoc overnight like Galois, in an act of desperation to get a US Green Card.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. :-)
Well in http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
I give an answer to Turner's question "Why Inflation?"
BTW: The Parapsychology Association was accepted into the AAAS in 1969,
when Margaret Mead was the head of the AAAS. Anthropologists tend to be more
accepting of the paranormal, perhaps because they have some experience of it
in their field work.
All for now.
Saul-Paul
----------
From: Jack Sarfatti
To: "rtenore"
Cc: roberto@debunker.com, Kenfrazier@cs.com
Subject: Re: Tribute to John A Wheeler Oct 24, 2003 Austin, Texas
Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2003, 12:16 PM
Memorandum for the Record
Advanced Alien Intelligence Agency
Subject: Skeptical Inquirer: Weapons of Mass Destruction/Deception in
Cyber Space and the New Cosmology of Wheeler's IT FROM BIT
On Resolving The Wheeler Paradox
bcc
Update: There are now 2 new Quick Time versions of my Oct 24, 2003 talk
"What is the Universe made of?"
http://english.ttu.edu/SLS/slsAbstract/Panel_5/ConferenceAbstract_5F.html
in Austin to a mixed audience of academics from both the sciences and
the humanities and the arts.
They are large files ~ 8 meg lavishly illustrated with great art and
photos that are symbols for the great physics concepts. Also some of my
key explanations are animated on a timeline in tiny baby steps that, I
hope, make the logic of my chain of original argumentation easier to
understand even for a non-physicist. I have added Max Tegmark's
objection to the Luminet-Weeks et-al Oct 9, 2003 Nature paper, more on
Wheeler's Vision of "IT FROM BIT" and the "Self-Excited Universe", more
on the exotic WMD issue of Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final
Hour", more on the recent resurgence of seemingly bizarre "homeopathic"
(J. Benveniste) "phantom DNA" (Vladimir Poponin) "psychotronic
torsion field" WMD (Akimov, Shipov) via our correspondent C. Ivanenko
in Saint Petersburg, Russia; also a really detailed animated
explanation of Herman Bondi's idea of negative matter propulsion as the
forerunner of Alcubierre's warp drive metric, how Francis Ford and
Ellie Coppola, under the influence of Saul-Paul Sirag and myself in the
mid-70s, got Carl Sagan started on "Contact" and how that led to Kip
Thorne's 1986 Star Gate (traversable wormhole) paper with "exotic
matter" that today we recognize as "dark energy" exotic vacuum w = -1
that is ~ 73% of the "stuff" of our Universe at least - not sure yet
about "The Universe Next Door." ;-)
A DSL line is adequate to get instant play on the automatic play movie
version:
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
If you save the download and open it directly in Quick Time you can
double the size of the screen for larger text. Even in the Web Browser
version most of the text is readable.
The interacting slide show version
http://qedcorp.com/APS/AustinTx102403.mov
where you click on the image to control the progress, exactly as I will
do in Austin, Texas next Friday, you must wait initially a long minute
or two or three depending on your connection speed before it works. It
is not "frozen" as you might think if you are in a hurry.
Note that http://qedcorp.com/APS/
is an open directory with other relevant files.
Also http://stardrive.org/cartoon/ has entertaining FLASH animations
related to the high-weirdness of "Tech Gnosis" and its latest "Neo Con"
incursion into War and Peace if you click on the .html files.
I think "rtenore" is actually the highly intelligent hacker "Indrid
Cold", AKA "Dr. Mediocrities" etc. etc. He has the ability to hack into
bcc lists. His open list that he sent in the original message below is
a concatenation of several of my bcc lists. "Cold" seems to be part of
the "high weirdness" Hermetic group of talented cyber-nerds around
Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson in Berkeley in the 70's to the
90's. Some good background reading here is Erik Davis's very excellent
"Techgnosis", also the books by Wilson himself like "The Cosmic
Trigger". Indeed, the best-seller "The Da Vinci Code" is connected with
all this as my book "Destiny Matrix" shows. Another relevant book is
Unberto Ecco's "Foucault's Pendulum" as well as the films by Jean
Cocteau, the film La Jetee, and the book "The Star Gate Conspiracy"
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/stargate.htm with a lot of flaky
Egyptology that I do not buy to be sure. It is a mixed bag. However
what Picknett and Prince write about me in there is accurate.
Traditional straight academics in science will find all this
mind-boggling and really nutty - be warned. The world of long term
strategic "occult" covert international intelligence "psy ops" (e.g.
Paul Wolfowitz's "Neo Con Cabal" off-shoot of Leo Strauss, Ayn Rand
et-al in Don Rumsfeld's Pentagon face of the inner extra-dimensional
Dodecadron rather than the Eye in The Pyramid? See the film "Being
There" with Peter Sellars. :-) )
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html (also May/June &
Sept/Oct Skeptical Inquirer) is a Topsy Turvy Looking Glass Fun House
World - a Lewis Carroll Reality like in the TV series with Patrick
McGoohan "The Prisoner." - The Village http://users.aol.com/theprsnr/
reminds me of San Francisco's North Beach. :-)
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