Sunday, September 18, 2005

Torsion Field WMD

FLASH: I am told Hal Puthoff has finally thrown in the towel on PV as a viable theory. What about HRP ZPE "origin of inertia"?

The objections of James Woodward and Eric Davis against standard model origin of inertia of leptons and (unconfined) quarks based on failure to observe the on-shell Higgs boson (s) are completely false. The two couplings, one for the mass of the Higgs boson, the other(s) for the leptons and quarks (Yukawa couplings) are independent of each other. Both depend on the Higgs VEV ODLRO virtual amplitude |<0|phi|0>| of course, which is the key point.

Gennady Shipov is correct that you can change the fundamental masses of leptons and quarks with torsion fields. I have given the rigorous mathematical proof of that. While you can do it in principle my point is that you do not want to do so because not only will you destroy the lab if you change e/m too much of the sample you are working with, you may even destroy the entire universe in an "Ice 9" effect. See Chap. 11 of Martin Rees's "Our Final Hour" and his "Just Six Numbers".

My proof what that you need Shipov's torsion field in order to modulate the zero point stress-energy tensor

tuv(zpf) = (c^4/8piG)/\zpfguv

that is, without torsion, /\zpf is really constant because of the Bianchi identities and it is at large scale from vacuum ODLRO

/\zpf ~ (H(t)/c)^2 ~ (10^28 cm)^-2

in contrast to Hal Puthoff's PV "cutoff"

/\zpf ~ (mc/h)^2 ~ (10^-11 cm)^-2

in his "charge cluster model"

and in contrast to naive QFT

/\zpf ~ (c^3/hG) ~ (10^-33 cm)^-2

On Sep 18, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

PS

Woodward wrote: "Warp drive" (and its various other metric equivalents) is not simple weightlessness. It requires the manipulation of the masses of things.

My reply to that is:

Red Herring, I never claimed ""Warp drive" (and its various other metric equivalents) is simple weightlessness." I claim any good warp drive must have the occupants weightless.



On Sep 18, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

bcc

Reply to James Woodward and then Shipov's message.



On Sep 17, 2005, at 11:41 PM, james f woodward wrote:


Shipov, while claiming to support Sarfatti's incorrect remark about
"weightless warp drive" in fact, however, makes precisely my point:
manipulation, in this case, of the torsion field alters the MASSES (read
inertia) of things. If it did not, there would be no effect of interest.
Weightlessness can be achieved by almost anything by simple geodesic
motion. "Warp drive" (and its various other metric equivalents) is not
simple weightlessness. It requires the manipulation of the masses of
things.





Jim
You are completely wrong in your physics here. You do not understand MTW's "Gravitation" or any of Wheeler's other books on Space-Time physics. The rest mass m is completely irrelevant to timelike geodesic motion in curved space-time. Even in Newtonian physics

F = ma

F = - GMm/r^2

a = -GM/r^2

The mass m of the ship cancels out of the equation. You do not seem to understand even that? Weight W obeys

W = mg

remember?

g = 0 on a timelike geodesic in curved space-time because of the equivalence principle (LC) = 0 in the LIF. Remember? m does not change. e/m does not change.

The whole point of metric engineering is to change the shape of the timelike geodesic that the ship is on from the ship itself (e.g. Alcubierre). If you change the rest masses of the constituents of the ship, which you can do in principle by changing the Higgs vacuum order parameter amplitude, you destroy the ship - and maybe the whole universe!

Warp drive does not require the "the manipulation of the masses of things" that is a deep misunderstanding. It is not true of Alcubierre's solution. Jim does not seem to understand Einstein's general relativity here. Metric engineering is the direct control of the timelike geodesic structure of the local geometrodynamic field guv(x) at the ship itself from the ship. The rest mass m of the ship is completely irrelevant. Motion of the center of mass of a complex object on a timelike geodesic without rotation about the center of mass is continuously "weightless", but the rest inertia m of parts of the object are still present obviously as is common experience in the Space Shuttle.


On Sep 18, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Gennady Shipov wrote:



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Sarfatti"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Weightless Warp Drive, WMD & Russian-Chinese Torsion Field R&D


Revised, corrected, expanded Draft #2

Memorandum for the Official Record
Subject: Metric Engineering of Weightless Warp Drive for USAF, RAF &
IAF Fighters
From: Jack Sarfatti, Ph.D. (theoretical physics, UC degree)
To: MASINT, NID, DIA et-al

Jack Sarfatti
The Russians and Chinese are actively pursuing this line of inquiry
as are the Indians allegedly at the Tata Institute primarily.

I am using the modern local frame-invariant Cartan forms math that is
in Rovelli's "Quantum Gravity" book, in John Baez's "Gravity, Gauge,
Knots" book, and in the appendices of Sean Carroll's new text book.

Gennady is using the more cumbersome old-fashioned tensor indices
method historically used by Einstein. The algebra is much simpler in
the Cartan forms language but the results should be essentially the
same.

I am also using the local gauge invariance principle that Gennady
does not use explicitly. In addition to that I introduce spontaneous
symmetry breakdown of the physical vacuum in which the Einstein-
Cartan tetrad field is proportional to the "gradient" of the local
macro-quantum coherent "supersolid" phase of the vacuum itself.
I smoothly join this to the standard model's Higgs field mechanism
for the origin of the inertia of leptons and quarks via the Yukawa
coupling. None of this "subspace" or "substratum" physics is in
Gennady's low-energy semi-phenomenological effective c-number field
theory approach historically used by Einstein 100 years ago before
the modern physics was even developed.

Gennady Shipov

In my book "A Theory of Physical Vacuum ", which has appeared at you
library in 2000, I use formalism of external differential forms (pp. 194-196).. Look attentively, or look the attachment and my website http://www.shipov.com

10-4 I have your book. Thanks for reminding me. :-)


But to receive a solution of the vacuum equations , index record is
necessary for me to present the equations component by component.


On Sep 17, 2005, at 2:12 AM, Gennady Shipov wrote:



Dear Jack!

Let's make an agreement about what the torsion field is .

1. I work with the manifold of oriented points, instead of the points
manifold of Riemann geometry.



Jack Sarfatti

My way of saying the above is locally gauge the 10-parameter Poincare
group of global special relativity to get a 10-dimensional manifold
for the configuration space of the "point" test particle. That is, we
have 6 additional local scalar fields one for each element of the Lie
algebra of the local Lorentz group O(1,3). These scalar fields form
the elements of the antisymmetric Diff(4) tensor torsion 2-form

T(x) = T(x)uvdx^u/\dx^v = De(x) = de(x) + W(x)/\e(x)

D = d + W(x)/
is the Diff(4) covariant exterior derivative, /\ is Cartan's exterior
product

Diff(4) is locally gauged T4

The Poincare group is T4*O(1,3)

Tuv(x) = (hG/c^3)arg(Vacuum ODLRO)[,u,v]

,u is ordinary partial derivative, [ ] is the antisymmetric commutator

Torsion means that the mixed 2nd-order partial derivatives of the
mean Goldstone phase of the local physical vacuum (post-inflation)
order parameter are not equal, e.g. Hagen Kleinert's "multi-valued
gauge transformations", "Dirac strings", Michael Berry's "phase
singularities", Abrikosov's "branch cut phase jumps" for lattices of
magnetic vortices in Type II superconductors (ref. "Topological
Quantum Mechanics" David Thouless).

e(x) = Einstein-Cartan 1-form tetrad field.

W(x) = Spin-connection equivalent to the Levi-Civita connection.

e(x)' = e(x) + S(x) = 1 + B(x) + S(x)

B(x) is the compensating 1-form tidal geodesic deviation curvature
gauge potential from locally gauging T4 to Diff(4).

S(x) is the compensating 1-form torsion gauge potential from locally
gauging O(1,3) to what for now I will call O*(1,3).

By DEFINITION

De(x) = de(x) + W(x)/\e(x) = 0

Therefore B(x) determines W(x).

T(x) = D'e'(x) = dS(x) + W(x)/\S(x) + S(x)/\(1 + B(x) + S(x))

Where D' = D + S(x)/
when S(x) = 0 then T(x) = 0

Therefore, the torsion 2-form T(x) depends on both the curvature W(x)
spin connection and the torsion potential S(x).

The Einstein-Hilbert action density is the 4-form

R(x)/\e(x)/\e(x) + /\zpfe(x)/\e(x)/\e(x)/\e(x)

where the curvature 2-form is

R(x) = DW(x) = dW(x) + W(x)/\W(x)

Einstein's exotic vacuum field equation from the action principle is
the 3-form equation

R(x)/\e(x) + /\zpfe(x)/\e(x)/\e(x) = 0

However, the Bianchi identities are

DR(x) = 0

But we also have

De(x) = 0

Therefore, obviously /\zpf must be a true constant when S(x) = 0.

This all changes when we have S(x) =/= 0

Define

R'(x) = D'(W(x) + S(x)) = dW(x) + dS(x) + (W(x) + S(x))/\(W(x) + S(x))

The new Bianchi identity is

D'R'(x) = 0

Note, that in ordinary 1915 GR where S(x) = 0

DR(x) = 0 (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) dF = 0)

D*R(x) = *J(x) (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) d*F = *J)

* = Hodge dual

Local conservation of stress-energy current densities is

D^2R(x) = D*J(x) = 0 (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) d^2*F = d*J = 0)

Absolute parallelism means, obviously

R'(x) = 0




Shipov wrote: "2. On the manifold of oriented points the geometry absolute
parallelism ,which possesses Ricci torsion Omega^i_jk (object anholomomity on
Schouten) is set."



Jack Sarfatti

I do not know that old cumbersome formalism. I prefer the above more
elegant simpler more powerful formalism because I am definitely a
"Lazy Dog" from the "Olympia Academy." ;-)



Shipov: "3. I name as a torsion field Ricci rotational coefficients
T^i_jk, which represent contorsion tensor of spaces of absolute parallelism."



In Cartan language

Tuv = Tuv^a&a

&a is a co-form vector field basis in the tangent space.

You can then write

Tuv^w = Tuv^ae'^wa

I use u,v,w for 0,1,2,3 in base space and i,j,l = 1,2,3 in a
spacelike slice 3-geometry.



Shipov: "4.The geometry of absolute parallelism can be set by localization of
non-uniform Lorentz group (or Poincare's group)."



I need to see your equations for that to understand your words. "Localization" is what I mean by "locally gauging."



Shipov: "5.Torsion field in my theory describes inertial properties of mass.
Operating by torsion fields, it is possible to change inertial mass of an object."



Jack Sarfatti

Why change it? It's very dangerous to change inertial mass because
then you change e/m ratios and as shown by Barrow & Tipler, by Paul
Davies, by Martin Rees et-al, you destroy matter in a huge WMD
explosion that can even destroy our entire universe. See, for
example, "Our Final Hour" Chapter 11 by Sir Martin Rees. My idea is
to leave m alone and simply change the shape of the local timelike
geodesic glide path as I tried to explain to James Woodward in the
previous message. Indeed you can change it by changing the intensity
of the Higgs field on the scale of 1-fermi but we want to avoid doing
so at all costs or else we will destroy the entire universe. That's a
good enough reason for ET to be here to make sure we do not destroy
them too!





Gennady Shipov
"I have shown in my work that to change inertial rest mass it is possible,
having created rotation of masses and having received (as result) not
compensated forces of inertia inside of the system

See my work on http://www.trinitas.ru "


Are you changing the inertial mass or have you changed the shape of the geodesic? -- is the the question here.




Shipov: "6.Torsion fields create local Riemann curvature of space, therefore operating by torsion fields, it is possible to operate by local Riemann curvature and thus to carry out weightless or inertialess. Jack, from my point of view you are right both as in my theory weightless and inertialess is the same."



Jack Sarfatti

What I mean by "weightless" is simply (LC) ~ 0 for the occupants of
the ship, i.e. no g-forces felt inside the ship in a dog fight. The
UFO makes sharp turns at tremendous speeds that would rip a jet
fighter apart from the g-force yet inside the crew is effectively
"standing still" weightless in free float. It's the idea of the
Alcubierre warp drive solution taken to the next step of finesse.




Gennady Shipov: "In my theory I mean by "weightless" compensation of gravitational forces by forces of inertia. Yes, in Einsten's theory it is simply (LC) ~ 0."



Shipov Gennady.

----- Original Message -----
From: "james f woodward"
To:

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Weightless Warp Drive



Woodward: :I said EFFECTIVELY inertialess. And that is correct. Weightless
is not correct.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:41:59 -0700 Jack Sarfatti

writes:


means you can dogfight without a pressure suit. Stop talking about
it? Why? So that the USAF will lose the War in Space? Woodward here
confuses weight W with inertia m.

W = mg

only works for a non-geodesic.



"The distinctive thing about the metric(s) you're interested in
is that they render things/regions effectively inertialess. Yes,
inertialess. :-)" Woodward




On a geodesic g = 0 but m is still what it always is as in e/m for
example.

I ignore SR corrections for now.

Woodward above says m = 0 on the geodesic with g =/= 0 - that is
wrong physics.

In GR g ~ c^2(LC)^i00

i = 1,2,3

(LC) is the torsion-free Levi-Civita connection that is zero on a
timelike geodesic.

On Sep 16, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:




On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:50 PM, james f woodward wrote:



"You've got to stop talking about "weightless warp drive".
Everything in orbit is "weightless", but none of it can go
cavorting around the cosmos."



I am talking about metric engineering, i.e. shaping the
geodesic as desired for flight.


ET to Professor Woodward ;-):

The basic equation is

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

By manipulating /\zpf with phase-locking to the vacuum phase,

/\zpf(x) ~ (Vacuum Coherence Length)^-1(Control Coherence Length)
^-1 cos(Vacuum Phase(x) - Control Phase(x))





Vacuum Phase(x) - Control Phase(x) = 2pi(Trapped flux at x/
Quantum of flux)





you shape the local geodesic path of the ship as desired.
That's what metric engineering means. I think even Hal Puthoff
and Eric Davis understand that much? At least I hope so. To get
more technical for everyone else. Woodward is stuck in the the
test particle approximation in which the weightless geodesic
motion of a ship cannot be changed by the ship itself. That is,
the ship is a test particle that receives its marching orders
from spacetime, but does not directly change the shape of space-
time in its immediate vicinity. Warp drive changes all that!




On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:36:25 -0700 Jack Sarfatti

writes:





Memorandum for the Record

Subject: The necessity of the Russian torsion fields for weightless
warp drive of the UFOs.

On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:45 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, a retired US Naval Intelligence
Officer wrote:


"Yes, and I applaud your efforts to extend GR to include
torsion; as you know, I too have always believed torsion is vital for
propellantless propulsion. Seems like some small-scale
engineering experimental method is needed to test your math"



My math is quite solid. I mean my proof that you cannot have
weightless warp drive without the torsion field in the sense of

the Moscow physicist Gennady Shipov. That is, without
Shipov's torsion, the residual zero point vacuum dark energy
density field proportional to /\zpf cannot vary in space and
time because of the 1915 GR Bianchi identities. Every
physicist in the field will agree with that much. The good
data on UFOs shows the reality of the torsion fields. No Paul
Hill "acceleration field" without torsion fields.

The curved part of the tetrad field B ~ (hG/c^3)^1/2@(x)^a(Pa/
ih) where {Pa/ih} is the Lie algebra of T4 and @(x)^a are the 4
space-time dependent phases from the local gauging of T4 -> Diff(4).
Similarly for the torsion 2-form T ~ (hG/c^3)@(x)^a^bSab
where {Sab} is the Lie algebra of O(1,3) and @(x)^a^b are the 6 space-time
dependent phases of the local gauging of O(1,3).

Also

B = Budx^u is a dimensionless 1-form for the curved part of the
Einstein-Cartan tetrad

Bu = Bu^a&a

T = Tuvdx^u/\dx^v

Tuv = Tuv^a&a

{&a} is the basis of 1-co-forms (tangent vectors) in the
tangent space

{dx^u} is the basis of 1-forms in the base space

The Einstein-Cartan tetrad field is

e' = e + S

e = 1 + B

B = (hG/c^3)d(Goldstone Phase of Vacuum ODLRO Higgs Field)

S is the torsion 1-form and the problem is to find its
relation to the torsion 2-form

T = D'e' = de' + (W + S)/\e'

d1 = 0

W is the torsion-free spin connection of 1915 GR that is
completely determined from B.

T = dB + dS + (W + S)/\(1 + B + S)

However by definition

dB + W/\(1 + B) = 0

Therefore, the basic curvature-torsion equation is

T = dS + W/\S + S/\(1 + B + S)

OK, I think I now have the correct formula.

Recall that 1915 GR is simply the EEP

guv(curved) = (Iu^a + B(x)u^a)nab(flat)(Iv^b + B(x)v^b)




"but Shipov's toy models don't appear to test your math."



I don't know.




From: Jack Sarfatti

Subject: Re: Exotic weapons torsion field R&D in Mainland
China?





Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:16:47 -0700

Yes, but even more important I have the math down
completely now for all this stuff. The Chinese are BS'ing in that
article. It's flakey.
On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:49 PM, ... US Naval Intelligence,
ret,wrote:



"Whether info or disfo, this is interesting and China is a
developing threat, much more so than many realize."



From: Jack Sarfatti
To: Kit Green ...
Subject: Exotic weapons torsion field R&D in Mainland
China?





Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700

Memorandum For The Record

Subject: Threat Assessment

http://www.halturnershow.com/
ChineseDefenseMinisterTalksWarAgainstUS.html

The Chinese report below appears to be mostly disinformation & misinformation for foreigners. That does not preclude real fire covered by smoke and mirrors.

Important background information on the torsion physics
mentioned below is at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/zpf2005.pdf updated periodically
also Discussion Forum at http://stardrive.org
and in 3 books:
Destiny Matrix
Space-Time & Beyond II
Super Cosmos
http://amazon.com

On Sep 12, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Gennady Shipov wrote:



"Jack!

In China very quickly develop torsion technologies.

Look at the attachment."


Jack Sarfatti :

Of course, back then this was not understood.
Bureaucrats like ... in DIA are holding USG back in
this whole field in US Defense Effort. Meantime the
Indians, Chinese, Iranians, Ukrainians and Russians are
forging ahead. It's no accident that I was invited to
publish in a book from the Ukranian Academy of
Sciences in Kiev. Those guys are not stupid. The
Chinese are really open to this stuff. Note the new
Russian-Chinese
joint War Games. Gennady Shipov is attacked by some of
his "KGB"
colleagues, but I now can prove that we do need his
torsion field to make all of this advanced weaponry
really work! We see the torsion weaponry out there in
the UFO data of Bruce Maccabee, NIDS et-al. So someone
knows how to do it and we don't.

Shipov Gennady:
"Jack!
In China very quickly develop torsion technologies.
Look the attachment."



My preliminary comments for the record, indeed my
equations show the interplay of the Russian torsion
fields with the zero point vacuum energy density that
would probably explain the anomalous "cold fusion" data
that in reality is release of dark energy if cold fusion
exists.




"Xing•liu Jiang, Xiong•wei Wen, China Science School,
Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics,
Beijing
100083 and Li•jun Han, China Department of Materials
Science
and Engineering, Beijing University of Aeronautics and
Astronautics, Beijing 100083

ABSTRACT
Highly localized nuclear activation in electrochemical
systems and other electrical discharge processes have
been
observed by many laboratories in the world. This
report is
an attempt to explain such anomalous phenomena by using
torsion field theory and axion model. Anisotopic
behaviours
of radiation products, burst character, "heat after
death"
of excess energy release in electrical discharge
systems are
considered to be interpreted by the torsion coherence of
vortex dynamics with the zero point energy induced by
localized intense field emission of micro-protrusion ofthe
cathode, and the dynamic Casimir effect of transient
evolution of triple region of gas, liquid solution, and
electrode protrusion. Axion model and Primakoff's
effect are
proposed for explanation of nuclear transmutation without
noticeable gamma radiation."



These allegations cannot be checked without the
mathematics. Briefly here is the real story in terms of
mainstream physics. We use the elegant local frame
invariant Einstein-Cartan exterior differential forms
mathematics for the tetrad gravity field that is the
"square root" of Einstein's 1915
symmetric metric tensor field. The tetrad technique is
analogous to the Dirac "square root" of the quantum
Klein- Gordon equation. Note that the metric is the anti-
commutator of the Dirac matrices and Einstein's curved
space-time geometrodynamic field guv is a symmetric
bilinear form in the Einstein-Cartan tetrad 1-form field
e where

e = 1 + B

When B = 0 we have globally flat Minkowski space-time.
According to the local equivalence principle there is
no real gravity (i.e. geodesic deviation tidal
curvature) in that limit. Technically B is the
compensating gauge potential when global T4 of special
relativity is replaced by local Diff(4). In addition
using the charge neutral Vacuum ODLRO VEV Higgs-
Goldstone field for the spontaneous breakdown of SU(2)
hypercharge in the standard model we can write

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2d(Mean Goldstone Phase)

Goldstone Phase is a 0-form

No gravity & no inertia when h = 0 or 1/c = 0 even when
G =/= 0.
Gravity and inertia are emergent "More is different" (P.W.
Anderson) properties of the spontaneous breakdown of SU(2)
hypercharge symmetry in the physical vacuum consistent
with
the Standard Model explanation for inertia of quarks
and leptons.






d is the Cartan exterior derivative, and we use the mean
Goldstone Phase averaged over the internal indices of
non- abelian SU(2).

The d^2 = 0 rule is suspended due to non-trivial multiply-
connected manifold cohomology in physical space and in VEV
local order parameter space. I call this "Flux without
flux"





BTW like Wheeler's "Charge without charge". In Wheeler-
Feynman theory the gauge force connections are dynamically
redundant and are replaced by the source fields with
advanced
light cone propagators. See Hoyle & Narlikar for1915 GR
version of Wheeler- Feynman elimination of the EM field for
the gravity case. Whether this 1940 classical idea
survives
the transition to quantum field theory is an open
question of
course.

Ref. John Baez, Gravity & Knots
Hagen Kleinert on "multi-valued gauge transformations"
Michael Berry "phase singularities"
Dirac Strings
Abrikosov phase jump branch cuts in physical space in
Type II
superconducting magnetic vortex lattices

Therefore

F = dB =/= 0

If this were U(1) Maxwell EM field theory, the 4 Maxwell
equations would be in 2-lines

dF = 0 (metric independent - Faraday induction & no
magnetic






monopoles laws)

d*F = *J (metric/constitutive material-dependent
Ampere's & Gauss's laws)

* = Hodge dual p-form to N - p form in N-dim space-time.

hence

*d*F = J = current density 1-form

Local current density conservation is

d^2d*F = d*J = 0

Transition to gravity, i.e. General Relativity

W = spin connection

The Gennady Shipov torsion 2-form is

T = De = de + W/\e = dB + W/\(1 + B)

In 1915 GR

T = 0 , therefore W is determined completely by B.

In Gennady Shipov's theory O(1,3) is also locally gauged
to give T =/ = 0, so now W depends on both B & T.

What is the torsion connection 1-form S?

If we use S = *dT we get

e' = e + S = 1 + B + S

Only use e to get EEP

guv = (1u^I + Bu^I)nIJ(1v^J + Bv^J) ?

If we use S = *DT we seem to get an infinite regress for
W in terms of B & S.

Locally gauging entire Poincare group of 1905 SR gives
Shipov's 10D "oriented point", which is essentially D3
BRANE theory BTW!

Finally the curvature 2-Form is

R = DW = dW + W/\W

Why the torsion field is needed.

In 1915 GR the Bianchi identities using the zero torsion
tetrad



e = 1 + B

give

DR = 0

analogous to

d*J = 0 in EM

Einstein's exotic dark energy vacuum field equation is

R/\e + /\zpfe/\e/\e = 0 as a 3-form equation.

This implies that

D/\zpf = d/\zpf = 0

/\zpf is a 0-form

with

De = 0

i.e. /\zpf is a constant.

When we add torsion we get

D' = d + W/\ + S/
with

D'R = 0

Therefore

DR =/= 0

hence

d/\zpf =/= 0

in presence of a torsion field.

The zero point dark energy-stress tensor is

tuv(zpf) = (c^4/8piG*)/\zpfguv

/\zpf > 0 is repulsive dark energy of negative vacuum
pressure (blue shift)

/\zpf < 0 is attractive dark matter (mis-named) of
positive vacuum pressure (red shift)

/\zpf ~ (vacuum coherence length)^-1(anyon condensate
coherence length)^-1cos(Vacuum Phase - Anyon Phase)

This permits low power practical metric engineering of
WEIGHTLESS Warp and Wormhole.

All the numerical PV estimates of Puthoff, Davis & Co
are completely irrelevant. No USG money should be spent
on high power laser bending of space-time - much too
small. No Bang a mere Whimper for a Big Buck! Waste of
tax money.


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James Woodward's greatest blunder on Warp Drive


On Sep 18, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

Woodward wrote: "Warp drive (and its various other metric equivalents) is not simple weightlessness. It requires the manipulation of the masses of things."

Red Herring, I never claimed ""Warp drive" (and its various other metric equivalents) is simple weightlessness." I claim any good warp drive must have the occupants weightless.



Reply to James Woodward and then Shipov's message.



On Sep 17, 2005, at 11:41 PM, james f woodward wrote:



Shipov, while claiming to support Sarfatti's incorrect remark about
"weightless warp drive" in fact, however, makes precisely my point:
manipulation, in this case, of the torsion field alters the MASSES (read
inertia) of things. If it did not, there would be no effect of interest.
Weightlessness can be achieved by almost anything by simple geodesic
motion. "Warp drive" (and its various other metric equivalents) is not
simple weightlessness. It requires the manipulation of the masses of
things.







Jim
You are completely wrong in your physics here. You do not understand MTW's "Gravitation" or any of Wheeler's other books on Space-Time physics. The rest mass m is completely irrelevant to timelike geodesic motion in curved space-time. Even in Newtonian physics

F = ma

F = - GMm/r^2

a = -GM/r^2

The mass m of the ship cancels out of the equation. You do not seem to understand even that? Weight W obeys

W = mg

remember?

g = 0 on a timelike geodesic in curved space-time because of the equivalence principle (LC) = 0 in the LIF. Remember? m does not change. e/m does not change.

The whole point of metric engineering is to change the shape of the timelike geodesic that the ship is on from the ship itself (e.g. Alcubierre). If you change the rest masses of the constituents of the ship, which you can do in principle by changing the Higgs vacuum order parameter amplitude, you destroy the ship - and maybe the whole universe!

Warp drive does not require the "the manipulation of the masses of things" that is a deep misunderstanding. It is not true of Alcubierre's solution. Jim does not seem to understand Einstein's general relativity here. Metric engineering is the direct control of the timelike geodesic structure of the local geometrodynamic field guv(x) at the ship itself from the ship. The rest mass m of the ship is completely irrelevant. Motion of the center of mass of a complex object on a timelike geodesic without rotation about the center of mass is continuously "weightless", but the rest inertia m of parts of the object are still present obviously as is common experience in the Space Shuttle.


On Sep 18, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Gennady Shipov wrote:




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Sarfatti"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Weightless Warp Drive, WMD & Russian-Chinese Torsion Field R&D


Revised, corrected, expanded Draft #2

Memorandum for the Official Record
Subject: Metric Engineering of Weightless Warp Drive for USAF, RAF &
IAF Fighters
From: Jack Sarfatti, Ph.D. (theoretical physics, UC degree)
To: MASINT, NID, DIA et-al

Jack Sarfatti
The Russians and Chinese are actively pursuing this line of inquiry
as are the Indians allegedly at the Tata Institute primarily.

I am using the modern local frame-invariant Cartan forms math that is
in Rovelli's "Quantum Gravity" book, in John Baez's "Gravity, Gauge,
Knots" book, and in the appendices of Sean Carroll's new text book.

Gennady is using the more cumbersome old-fashioned tensor indices
method historically used by Einstein. The algebra is much simpler in
the Cartan forms language but the results should be essentially the
same.

I am also using the local gauge invariance principle that Gennady
does not use explicitly. In addition to that I introduce spontaneous
symmetry breakdown of the physical vacuum in which the Einstein-
Cartan tetrad field is proportional to the "gradient" of the local
macro-quantum coherent "supersolid" phase of the vacuum itself.
I smoothly join this to the standard model's Higgs field mechanism
for the origin of the inertia of leptons and quarks via the Yukawa
coupling. None of this "subspace" or "substratum" physics is in
Gennady's low-energy semi-phenomenological effective c-number field
theory approach historically used by Einstein 100 years ago before
the modern physics was even developed.

Gennady Shipov

In my book "A Theory of Physical Vacuum ", which has appeared at you
library in 2000, I use formalism of external differential forms (pp. 194-196).. Look attentively, or look the attachment and my website http://www.shipov.com


10-4 I have your book. Thanks for reminding me. :-)



But to receive a solution of the vacuum equations , index record is
necessary for me to present the equations component by component.


On Sep 17, 2005, at 2:12 AM, Gennady Shipov wrote:




Dear Jack!

Let's make an agreement about what the torsion field is .

1. I work with the manifold of oriented points, instead of the points
manifold of Riemann geometry.




Jack Sarfatti

My way of saying the above is locally gauge the 10-parameter Poincare
group of global special relativity to get a 10-dimensional manifold
for the configuration space of the "point" test particle. That is, we
have 6 additional local scalar fields one for each element of the Lie
algebra of the local Lorentz group O(1,3). These scalar fields form
the elements of the antisymmetric Diff(4) tensor torsion 2-form

T(x) = T(x)uvdx^u/\dx^v = De(x) = de(x) + W(x)/\e(x)

D = d + W(x)/
is the Diff(4) covariant exterior derivative, /\ is Cartan's exterior
product

Diff(4) is locally gauged T4

The Poincare group is T4*O(1,3)

Tuv(x) = (hG/c^3)arg(Vacuum ODLRO)[,u,v]

,u is ordinary partial derivative, [ ] is the antisymmetric commutator

Torsion means that the mixed 2nd-order partial derivatives of the
mean Goldstone phase of the local physical vacuum (post-inflation)
order parameter are not equal, e.g. Hagen Kleinert's "multi-valued
gauge transformations", "Dirac strings", Michael Berry's "phase
singularities", Abrikosov's "branch cut phase jumps" for lattices of
magnetic vortices in Type II superconductors (ref. "Topological
Quantum Mechanics" David Thouless).

e(x) = Einstein-Cartan 1-form tetrad field.

W(x) = Spin-connection equivalent to the Levi-Civita connection.

e(x)' = e(x) + S(x) = 1 + B(x) + S(x)

B(x) is the compensating 1-form tidal geodesic deviation curvature
gauge potential from locally gauging T4 to Diff(4).

S(x) is the compensating 1-form torsion gauge potential from locally
gauging O(1,3) to what for now I will call O*(1,3).

By DEFINITION

De(x) = de(x) + W(x)/\e(x) = 0

Therefore B(x) determines W(x).

T(x) = D'e'(x) = dS(x) + W(x)/\S(x) + S(x)/\(1 + B(x) + S(x))

Where D' = D + S(x)/
when S(x) = 0 then T(x) = 0

Therefore, the torsion 2-form T(x) depends on both the curvature W(x)
spin connection and the torsion potential S(x).

The Einstein-Hilbert action density is the 4-form

R(x)/\e(x)/\e(x) + /\zpfe(x)/\e(x)/\e(x)/\e(x)

where the curvature 2-form is

R(x) = DW(x) = dW(x) + W(x)/\W(x)

Einstein's exotic vacuum field equation from the action principle is
the 3-form equation

R(x)/\e(x) + /\zpfe(x)/\e(x)/\e(x) = 0

However, the Bianchi identities are

DR(x) = 0

But we also have

De(x) = 0

Therefore, obviously /\zpf must be a true constant when S(x) = 0.

This all changes when we have S(x) =/= 0

Define

R'(x) = D'(W(x) + S(x)) = dW(x) + dS(x) + (W(x) + S(x))/\(W(x) + S(x))

The new Bianchi identity is

D'R'(x) = 0

Note, that in ordinary 1915 GR where S(x) = 0

DR(x) = 0 (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) dF = 0)

D*R(x) = *J(x) (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) d*F = *J)

* = Hodge dual

Local conservation of stress-energy current densities is

D^2R(x) = D*J(x) = 0 (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) d^2*F = d*J = 0)

Absolute parallelism means, obviously

R'(x) = 0





Shipov wrote: "2. On the manifold of oriented points the geometry absolute
parallelism ,which possesses Ricci torsion Omega^i_jk (object anholomomity on
Schouten) is set."




Jack Sarfatti

I do not know that old cumbersome formalism. I prefer the above more
elegant simpler more powerful formalism because I am definitely a
"Lazy Dog" from the "Olympia Academy." ;-)




Shipov: "3. I name as a torsion field Ricci rotational coefficients
T^i_jk, which represent contorsion tensor of spaces of absolute parallelism."




In Cartan language

Tuv = Tuv^a&a

&a is a co-form vector field basis in the tangent space.

You can then write

Tuv^w = Tuv^ae'^wa

I use u,v,w for 0,1,2,3 in base space and i,j,l = 1,2,3 in a
spacelike slice 3-geometry.




Shipov: "4.The geometry of absolute parallelism can be set by localization of
non-uniform Lorentz group (or Poincare's group)."




I need to see your equations for that to understand your words. "Localization" is what I mean by "locally gauging."




Shipov: "5.Torsion field in my theory describes inertial properties of mass.
Operating by torsion fields, it is possible to change inertial mass of an object."




Jack Sarfatti

Why change it? It's very dangerous to change inertial mass because
then you change e/m ratios and as shown by Barrow & Tipler, by Paul
Davies, by Martin Rees et-al, you destroy matter in a huge WMD
explosion that can even destroy our entire universe. See, for
example, "Our Final Hour" Chapter 11 by Sir Martin Rees. My idea is
to leave m alone and simply change the shape of the local timelike
geodesic glide path as I tried to explain to James Woodward in the
previous message. Indeed you can change it by changing the intensity
of the Higgs field on the scale of 1-fermi but we want to avoid doing
so at all costs or else we will destroy the entire universe. That's a
good enough reason for ET to be here to make sure we do not destroy
them too!







Gennady Shipov
"I have shown in my work that to change inertial rest mass it is possible,
having created rotation of masses and having received (as result) not
compensated forces of inertia inside of the system

See my work on http://www.trinitas.ru "



Are you changing the inertial mass or have you changed the shape of the geodesic? -- is the the question here.






Shipov: "6.Torsion fields create local Riemann curvature of space, therefore operating by torsion fields, it is possible to operate by local Riemann curvature and thus to carry out weightless or inertialess. Jack, from my point of view you are right both as in my theory weightless and inertialess is the same."




Jack Sarfatti

What I mean by "weightless" is simply (LC) ~ 0 for the occupants of
the ship, i.e. no g-forces felt inside the ship in a dog fight. The
UFO makes sharp turns at tremendous speeds that would rip a jet
fighter apart from the g-force yet inside the crew is effectively
"standing still" weightless in free float. It's the idea of the
Alcubierre warp drive solution taken to the next step of finesse.






Gennady Shipov: "In my theory I mean by "weightless" compensation of gravitational forces by forces of inertia. Yes, in Einsten's theory it is simply (LC) ~ 0."




Shipov Gennady.

----- Original Message -----
From: "james f woodward"
To:

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Weightless Warp Drive




Woodward: :I said EFFECTIVELY inertialess. And that is correct. Weightless
is not correct.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:41:59 -0700 Jack Sarfatti

writes:



means you can dogfight without a pressure suit. Stop talking about
it? Why? So that the USAF will lose the War in Space? Woodward here
confuses weight W with inertia m.

W = mg

only works for a non-geodesic.




"The distinctive thing about the metric(s) you're interested in
is that they render things/regions effectively inertialess. Yes,
inertialess. :-)" Woodward





On a geodesic g = 0 but m is still what it always is as in e/m for
example.

I ignore SR corrections for now.

Woodward above says m = 0 on the geodesic with g =/= 0 - that is
wrong physics.

In GR g ~ c^2(LC)^i00

i = 1,2,3

(LC) is the torsion-free Levi-Civita connection that is zero on a
timelike geodesic.

On Sep 16, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:






On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:50 PM, james f woodward wrote:




"You've got to stop talking about "weightless warp drive".
Everything in orbit is "weightless", but none of it can go
cavorting around the cosmos."




I am talking about metric engineering, i.e. shaping the
geodesic as desired for flight.


ET to Professor Woodward ;-):

The basic equation is

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

By manipulating /\zpf with phase-locking to the vacuum phase,

/\zpf(x) ~ (Vacuum Coherence Length)^-1(Control Coherence Length)
^-1 cos(Vacuum Phase(x) - Control Phase(x))







Vacuum Phase(x) - Control Phase(x) = 2pi(Trapped flux at x/
Quantum of flux)







you shape the local geodesic path of the ship as desired.
That's what metric engineering means. I think even Hal Puthoff
and Eric Davis understand that much? At least I hope so. To get
more technical for everyone else. Woodward is stuck in the the
test particle approximation in which the weightless geodesic
motion of a ship cannot be changed by the ship itself. That is,
the ship is a test particle that receives its marching orders
from spacetime, but does not directly change the shape of space-
time in its immediate vicinity. Warp drive changes all that!





On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:36:25 -0700 Jack Sarfatti

writes:






Memorandum for the Record

Subject: The necessity of the Russian torsion fields for weightless
warp drive of the UFOs.

On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:45 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:



On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, a retired US Naval Intelligence
Officer wrote:



"Yes, and I applaud your efforts to extend GR to include
torsion; as you know, I too have always believed torsion is vital for
propellantless propulsion. Seems like some small-scale
engineering experimental method is needed to test your math"




My math is quite solid. I mean my proof that you cannot have
weightless warp drive without the torsion field in the sense of


the Moscow physicist Gennady Shipov. That is, without
Shipov's torsion, the residual zero point vacuum dark energy
density field proportional to /\zpf cannot vary in space and
time because of the 1915 GR Bianchi identities. Every
physicist in the field will agree with that much. The good
data on UFOs shows the reality of the torsion fields. No Paul
Hill "acceleration field" without torsion fields.

The curved part of the tetrad field B ~ (hG/c^3)^1/2@(x)^a(Pa/
ih) where {Pa/ih} is the Lie algebra of T4 and @(x)^a are the 4
space-time dependent phases from the local gauging of T4 -> Diff(4).
Similarly for the torsion 2-form T ~ (hG/c^3)@(x)^a^bSab
where {Sab} is the Lie algebra of O(1,3) and @(x)^a^b are the 6 space-time
dependent phases of the local gauging of O(1,3).

Also

B = Budx^u is a dimensionless 1-form for the curved part of the
Einstein-Cartan tetrad

Bu = Bu^a&a

T = Tuvdx^u/\dx^v

Tuv = Tuv^a&a

{&a} is the basis of 1-co-forms (tangent vectors) in the
tangent space

{dx^u} is the basis of 1-forms in the base space

The Einstein-Cartan tetrad field is

e' = e + S

e = 1 + B

B = (hG/c^3)d(Goldstone Phase of Vacuum ODLRO Higgs Field)

S is the torsion 1-form and the problem is to find its
relation to the torsion 2-form

T = D'e' = de' + (W + S)/\e'

d1 = 0

W is the torsion-free spin connection of 1915 GR that is
completely determined from B.

T = dB + dS + (W + S)/\(1 + B + S)

However by definition

dB + W/\(1 + B) = 0

Therefore, the basic curvature-torsion equation is

T = dS + W/\S + S/\(1 + B + S)

OK, I think I now have the correct formula.

Recall that 1915 GR is simply the EEP

guv(curved) = (Iu^a + B(x)u^a)nab(flat)(Iv^b + B(x)v^b)






"but Shipov's toy models don't appear to test your math."




I don't know.





From: Jack Sarfatti

Subject: Re: Exotic weapons torsion field R&D in Mainland
China?







Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:16:47 -0700

Yes, but even more important I have the math down
completely now for all this stuff. The Chinese are BS'ing in that
article. It's flakey.
On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:49 PM, ... US Naval Intelligence,
ret,wrote:




"Whether info or disfo, this is interesting and China is a
developing threat, much more so than many realize."




From: Jack Sarfatti
To: Kit Green ...
Subject: Exotic weapons torsion field R&D in Mainland
China?







Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700

Memorandum For The Record

Subject: Threat Assessment

http://www.halturnershow.com/
ChineseDefenseMinisterTalksWarAgainstUS.html

The Chinese report below appears to be mostly disinformation & misinformation for foreigners. That does not preclude real fire covered by smoke and mirrors.

Important background information on the torsion physics
mentioned below is at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/zpf2005.pdf updated periodically
also Discussion Forum at http://stardrive.org
and in 3 books:
Destiny Matrix
Space-Time & Beyond II
Super Cosmos
http://amazon.com

On Sep 12, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Gennady Shipov wrote:




"Jack!

In China very quickly develop torsion technologies.

Look at the attachment."


Jack Sarfatti :

Of course, back then this was not understood.
Bureaucrats like ... in DIA are holding USG back in
this whole field in US Defense Effort. Meantime the
Indians, Chinese, Iranians, Ukrainians and Russians are
forging ahead. It's no accident that I was invited to
publish in a book from the Ukranian Academy of
Sciences in Kiev. Those guys are not stupid. The
Chinese are really open to this stuff. Note the new
Russian-Chinese
joint War Games. Gennady Shipov is attacked by some of
his "KGB"
colleagues, but I now can prove that we do need his
torsion field to make all of this advanced weaponry
really work! We see the torsion weaponry out there in
the UFO data of Bruce Maccabee, NIDS et-al. So someone
knows how to do it and we don't.

Shipov Gennady:
"Jack!
In China very quickly develop torsion technologies.
Look the attachment."




My preliminary comments for the record, indeed my
equations show the interplay of the Russian torsion
fields with the zero point vacuum energy density that
would probably explain the anomalous "cold fusion" data
that in reality is release of dark energy if cold fusion
exists.





"Xing•liu Jiang, Xiong•wei Wen, China Science School,
Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics,
Beijing
100083 and Li•jun Han, China Department of Materials
Science
and Engineering, Beijing University of Aeronautics and
Astronautics, Beijing 100083

ABSTRACT
Highly localized nuclear activation in electrochemical
systems and other electrical discharge processes have
been
observed by many laboratories in the world. This
report is
an attempt to explain such anomalous phenomena by using
torsion field theory and axion model. Anisotopic
behaviours
of radiation products, burst character, "heat after
death"
of excess energy release in electrical discharge
systems are
considered to be interpreted by the torsion coherence of
vortex dynamics with the zero point energy induced by
localized intense field emission of micro-protrusion ofthe
cathode, and the dynamic Casimir effect of transient
evolution of triple region of gas, liquid solution, and
electrode protrusion. Axion model and Primakoff's
effect are
proposed for explanation of nuclear transmutation without
noticeable gamma radiation."




These allegations cannot be checked without the
mathematics. Briefly here is the real story in terms of
mainstream physics. We use the elegant local frame
invariant Einstein-Cartan exterior differential forms
mathematics for the tetrad gravity field that is the
"square root" of Einstein's 1915
symmetric metric tensor field. The tetrad technique is
analogous to the Dirac "square root" of the quantum
Klein- Gordon equation. Note that the metric is the anti-
commutator of the Dirac matrices and Einstein's curved
space-time geometrodynamic field guv is a symmetric
bilinear form in the Einstein-Cartan tetrad 1-form field
e where

e = 1 + B

When B = 0 we have globally flat Minkowski space-time.
According to the local equivalence principle there is
no real gravity (i.e. geodesic deviation tidal
curvature) in that limit. Technically B is the
compensating gauge potential when global T4 of special
relativity is replaced by local Diff(4). In addition
using the charge neutral Vacuum ODLRO VEV Higgs-
Goldstone field for the spontaneous breakdown of SU(2)
hypercharge in the standard model we can write

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2d(Mean Goldstone Phase)

Goldstone Phase is a 0-form

No gravity & no inertia when h = 0 or 1/c = 0 even when
G =/= 0.
Gravity and inertia are emergent "More is different" (P.W.
Anderson) properties of the spontaneous breakdown of SU(2)
hypercharge symmetry in the physical vacuum consistent
with
the Standard Model explanation for inertia of quarks
and leptons.








d is the Cartan exterior derivative, and we use the mean
Goldstone Phase averaged over the internal indices of
non- abelian SU(2).

The d^2 = 0 rule is suspended due to non-trivial multiply-
connected manifold cohomology in physical space and in VEV
local order parameter space. I call this "Flux without
flux"







BTW like Wheeler's "Charge without charge". In Wheeler-
Feynman theory the gauge force connections are dynamically
redundant and are replaced by the source fields with
advanced
light cone propagators. See Hoyle & Narlikar for1915 GR
version of Wheeler- Feynman elimination of the EM field for
the gravity case. Whether this 1940 classical idea
survives
the transition to quantum field theory is an open
question of
course.

Ref. John Baez, Gravity & Knots
Hagen Kleinert on "multi-valued gauge transformations"
Michael Berry "phase singularities"
Dirac Strings
Abrikosov phase jump branch cuts in physical space in
Type II
superconducting magnetic vortex lattices

Therefore

F = dB =/= 0

If this were U(1) Maxwell EM field theory, the 4 Maxwell
equations would be in 2-lines

dF = 0 (metric independent - Faraday induction & no
magnetic








monopoles laws)

d*F = *J (metric/constitutive material-dependent
Ampere's & Gauss's laws)

* = Hodge dual p-form to N - p form in N-dim space-time.

hence

*d*F = J = current density 1-form

Local current density conservation is

d^2d*F = d*J = 0

Transition to gravity, i.e. General Relativity

W = spin connection

The Gennady Shipov torsion 2-form is

T = De = de + W/\e = dB + W/\(1 + B)

In 1915 GR

T = 0 , therefore W is determined completely by B.

In Gennady Shipov's theory O(1,3) is also locally gauged
to give T =/ = 0, so now W depends on both B & T.

What is the torsion connection 1-form S?

If we use S = *dT we get

e' = e + S = 1 + B + S

Only use e to get EEP

guv = (1u^I + Bu^I)nIJ(1v^J + Bv^J) ?

If we use S = *DT we seem to get an infinite regress for
W in terms of B & S.

Locally gauging entire Poincare group of 1905 SR gives
Shipov's 10D "oriented point", which is essentially D3
BRANE theory BTW!

Finally the curvature 2-Form is

R = DW = dW + W/\W

Why the torsion field is needed.

In 1915 GR the Bianchi identities using the zero torsion
tetrad





e = 1 + B

give

DR = 0

analogous to

d*J = 0 in EM

Einstein's exotic dark energy vacuum field equation is

R/\e + /\zpfe/\e/\e = 0 as a 3-form equation.

This implies that

D/\zpf = d/\zpf = 0

/\zpf is a 0-form

with

De = 0

i.e. /\zpf is a constant.

When we add torsion we get

D' = d + W/\ + S/
with

D'R = 0

Therefore

DR =/= 0

hence

d/\zpf =/= 0

in presence of a torsion field.

The zero point dark energy-stress tensor is

tuv(zpf) = (c^4/8piG*)/\zpfguv

/\zpf > 0 is repulsive dark energy of negative vacuum
pressure (blue shift)

/\zpf < 0 is attractive dark matter (mis-named) of
positive vacuum pressure (red shift)

/\zpf ~ (vacuum coherence length)^-1(anyon condensate
coherence length)^-1cos(Vacuum Phase - Anyon Phase)

This permits low power practical metric engineering of
WEIGHTLESS Warp and Wormhole.

All the numerical PV estimates of Puthoff, Davis & Co
are completely irrelevant. No USG money should be spent
on high power laser bending of space-time - much too
small. No Bang a mere Whimper for a Big Buck! Waste of
tax money.


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Saturday, September 17, 2005

Uri Geller

bcc
On Sep 17, 2005, at 11:48 AM, bruce maccabee wrote:

Jack Sarfatti wrote:



So what did Durant say about 1947 and what did he say about Colonel Phillip J. Corso? Remember Corso was very angry at someone in the CIA. Was it Durant? Angleton? Kit? Who? Be interesting to know what that was all about eh?


"I don't think he said anything about either. The idea of the Roswell event being anything of significance was only known to a few investigators (Friedman, Moore, etc). The Roswell Incident book had just been published (Aug or Sept 1980). I had not had one to read myself. As for Corso, in 1980 the response to a question about him would have been "who he?"

So Colonel Corso was keeping his experiences secret at that time?

Durant certainly put on the mantle of severe skeptic of the whole UFO subject. Whether he knew anything he didn't talk about ..... I believe he's long gone now I do have an amusing anecdote about Hynek and Durant. I was sitting between the during the meagre lunch they served in the basement lunchroom at the Smithsonian. During that lunch the talk turned toward the paranormal in general. Now, I should point out that Hynek and Durant were long time acquaintances, going back to the late 1950's at least, when Hynek directed the "Prairie Network" of all sky cameras looking for meteors. So the subject of metal bending came up! How I do not recall.... certainly nothing
I would have mentioned. Anyway, Hynek proceeded to describe his own experience
with Geller and a key. According to Hynek he was seated at a table next to Geller
(this would have been in the 1970's.... I don't know when). Geller asked for a key and Hynek gave him one. Geller held the key, rubbed it, whatever and then it
started to bend. By this time Durant was probably apoplectic over Hynek even
describing such a thing, but he started to advance the "any magician can bend a key "
sort of argument. But Hynek plunged on and came up with the "clincher." According
to Hynek as the key was bending Geller set it on the table in clear view of himself and Hynek and IT CONTINUED TO BEND."

Yes, this is a fact IMHO.

Durant was pooh-poohing the whole thing and Hynek emphasied that he had the table and cloth as a fixed reference and he could clerly see the key bend AFTER Geller removed his hand. Well, I suppose this was enough to convince me... at least if Hynek wasn't
lying ..."

No, he was not lying. Definitely not. That much I know with 90% confidence.

" ... there clearly was "new physics" going on there. But Durant ... he just
wouldn't have it. As we got up from the table I sensed a "coldness" between these
two long-time friends. Hynek had put his foot forward and Durant had stepped
on it. I never heard Hynek talk about metal-bending or Geller again. Come to think of it, I think the Smthsonian was so cheap as to require the attendees to pay their own hotel bill. Anyway, my recollection is that Hynek stayed at my house that night to avoid paying for a hotel room (CUFOS was not a "rich" UFO institution). While he was there I asked him how he managed to live or cope with his knowledge of UFO reality. He responded something like this: 'I live every day as if this weren't real.' I suppose we all do! (Part of the "universal self cover up")
War in Space

Memorandum for the Official Record
Subject: Metric Engineering of Weightless Warp Drive for USAF, RAF & IAF Fighters
From: Jack Sarfatti, Ph.D. (theoretical physics, UC degree)
To: MASINT, NID, DIA et-al

The Russians and Chinese are actively pursuing this line of inquiry as are the Indians allegedly at the Tata Institute primarily.

I am using the modern local frame-invariant Cartan forms math that is in Rovelli's "Quantum Gravity" book, in John Baez's "Gravity, Gauge, Knots" book, and in the appendices of Sean Carroll's new text book. Gennady is using the more cumbersome old-fashioned tensor indices method historically used by Einstein. The algebra is much simpler in the Cartan forms language but the results should be essentially the same.

I am also using the local gauge invariance principle that Gennady does not use explicitly. In addition to that I introduce spontaneous symmetry breakdown of the physical vacuum in which the Einstein-Cartan tetrad field is proportional to the "gradient" of the local macro-quantum coherent "supersolid" phase of the vacuum itself.
I smoothly join this to the standard model's Higgs field mechanism for the origin of the inertia of leptons and quarks via the Yukawa coupling. None of this "subspace" or "substratum" physics is in Gennady's low-energy semi-phenomenological effective c-number field theory approach historically used by Einstein 100 years ago before the modern physics was even developed.


On Sep 17, 2005, at 2:12 AM, Gennady Shipov wrote:

Dear Jack!

Let's made agreement about what torsion field is .

1. I work with the manifold of oriented points, instead of points manifold
of Riemann geometry.

My way of saying the above is locally gauge the 10-parameter Poincare group of global special relativity to get a 10-dimensional manifold for the configuration space of the "point" test particle. That is, we have 6 additional local scalar fields one for each element of the Lie algebra of the local Lorentz group O(1,3). These scalar fields form the elements of the antisymmetric Diff(4) tensor torsion 2-form

T(x) = T(x)uvdx^u/\dx^v = De(x) = de(x) + W(x)/\e(x)

D = d + W(x)/
is the Diff(4) covariant exterior derivative, /\ is Cartan's exterior product

Diff(4) is locally gauged T4

The Poincare group is T4*O(1,3)

Tuv(x) = (hG/c^3)arg(Vacuum ODLRO)[,u,v]

,u is ordinary partial derivative, [ ] is the antisymmetric commutator

Torsion means that the mixed 2nd-order partial derivatives of the mean Goldstone phase of the local physical vacuum (post-inflation) order parameter are not equal, e.g. Hagen Kleinert's "multi-valued gauge transformations", "Dirac strings", Michael Berry's "phase singularities", Abrikosov's "branch cut phase jumps" for lattices of magnetic vortices in Type II superconductors (ref. "Topological Quantum Mechanics" David Thouless).

e(x) = Einstein-Cartan 1-form tetrad field.

W(x) = Spin-connection equivalent to the Levi-Civita connection.

e(x)' = e(x) + S(x) = 1 + B(x) + S(x)

B(x) is the compensating 1-form tidal geodesic deviation curvature gauge potential from locally gauging T4 to Diff(4).

S(x) is the compensating 1-form torsion gauge potential from locally gauging O(1,3) to what for now I will call O*(1,3).

By DEFINITION

De(x) = de(x) + W(x)/\e(x) = 0

Therefore B(x) determines W(x).

T(x) = D'e'(x) = dS(x) + W(x)/\S(x) + S(x)/\(1 + B(x) + S(x))

Where D' = D + S(x)/
when S(x) = 0 then T(x) = 0

Therefore, the torsion 2-form T(x) depends on both the curvature W(x) spin connection and the torsion potential S(x).

The Einstein-Hilbert action density is the 4-form

R(x)/\e(x)/\e(x) + /\zpfe(x)/\e(x)/\e(x)/\e(x)

where the curvature 2-form is

R(x) = DW(x) = dW(x) + W(x)/\W(x)

Einstein's exotic vacuum field equation from the action principle is the 3-form equation

R(x)/\e(x) + /\zpfe(x)/\e(x)/\e(x) = 0

However, the Bianchi identities are

DR(x) = 0

But we also have

De(x) = 0

Therefore, obviously /\zpf must be a true constant when S(x) = 0.

This all changes when we have S(x) =/= 0

Define

R'(x) = D'(W(x) + S(x)) = dW(x) + dS(x) + (W(x) + S(x))/\(W(x) + S(x))

The new Bianchi identity is

D'R'(x) = 0

Note, that in ordinary 1915 GR where S(x) = 0

DR(x) = 0 (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) dF = 0)

D*R(x) = *J(x) (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) d*F = *J)

* = Hodge dual

Local conservation of stress-energy current densities is

D^2R(x) = D*J(x) = 0 (Diff(4) analog of Maxwell's U(1) d^2*F = d*J = 0)

Absolute parallelism means, obviously

R'(x) = 0


2. On the manifold of oriented points the geometry absolute parallelism ,
which possesses Ricci torsion Omega^i_jk (object anholomomity on Schouten)
is set.

I do not know that old cumbersome formalism. I prefer the above more elegant simpler more powerful formalism because I am definitely a "Lazy Dog" from the "Olympia Academy." ;-)

3. I name as a torsion field Ricci rotational coefficients T^i_jk, which
represent contorsion tensor of spaces of absolute parallelism.

In Cartan language

Tuv = Tuv^a&a

&a is a co-form vector field basis in the tangent space.

You can then write

Tuv^w = Tuv^ae'^wa

I use u,v,w for 0,1,2,3 in base space and i,j,l = 1,2,3 in a spacelike slice 3-geometry.



4. The geometry of absolute parallelism can be set by localization of
non-uniform Lorentz group (or Poincare's group).

I need to see your equations for that to understand your words.

5. Torsion field in my theory describes inertial properties of mass.
Operating by torsion fields, it is possible to change inertial mass of an
object.

Why change it? It's very dangerous to change inertial mass because then you change e/m ratios and as shown by Barrow & Tipler, by Paul Davies, by Martin Rees et-al, you destroy matter in a huge WMD explosion that can even destroy our entire universe. See, for example, "Our Final Hour" Chapter 11 by Sir Martin Rees. My idea is to leave m alone and simply change the shape of the local timelike geodesic glide path as I tried to explain to James Woodward in the previous message. Indeed you can change it by changing the intensity of the Higgs field on the scale of 1-fermi but we want to avoid doing so at all costs or else we will destroy the entire universe. That's a good enough reason for ET to be here to make sure we do not destroy them too!

6. Torsion fields create local Riemann curvature of space, therefore
operating by torsion fields, it is possible to operate by local Riemann
curvature and thus to carry out weightless or inertialess.

Jack, from my point of view you are right both as in my theory weightless
and inertialess is the same.

What I mean by "weightless" is simply (LC) ~ 0 for the occupants of the ship, i.e. no g-forces felt inside the ship in a dog fight. The UFO makes sharp turns at tremendous speeds that would rip a jet fighter apart from the g-force yet inside the crew is effectively "standing still" weightless in free float. It's the idea of the Alcubierre warp drive solution taken to the next step of finesse.



Shipov Gennady.

----- Original Message -----
From: "james f woodward"
To:

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Weightless Warp Drive



I said EFFECTIVELY inertialess. And that is correct. Weightless is not
correct.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:41:59 -0700 Jack Sarfatti
writes:

means you can dogfight without a pressure suit. Stop talking about
it? Why? So that the USAF will lose the War in Space? Woodward here
confuses weight W with inertia m.

W = mg

only works for a non-geodesic.


"The distinctive thing about the metric(s) you're interested in
is that they render things/regions effectively inertialess. Yes,
inertialess. :-)" Woodward


On a geodesic g = 0 but m is still what it always is as in e/m for
example.

I ignore SR corrections for now.

Woodward above says m = 0 on the geodesic with g =/= 0 - that is
wrong physics.

In GR g ~ c^2(LC)^i00

i = 1,2,3

(LC) is the torsion-free Levi-Civita connection that is zero on a
timelike geodesic.

On Sep 16, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:



On Sep 16, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:



On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:50 PM, james f woodward wrote:

"You've got to stop talking about "weightless warp drive". Everything in orbit is "weightless", but none of it can go cavorting around the cosmos."


I am talking about metric engineering, i.e. shaping the geodesic as desired for
flight.


ET to Professor Woodward:

The basic equation is

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

By manipulating /\zpf with phase-locking to the vacuum phase,

/\zpf(x) ~ (Vacuum Coherence Length)^-1(Control Coherence Length)
^-1 cos(Vacuum Phase(x) - Control Phase(x))

Vacuum Phase(x) - Control Phase(x) = 2pi(Trapped flux at x/Quantum of flux)

you shape the local geodesic path of the ship as desired. That's what metric engineering means. I think even Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis understand that much? At least I hope so. To get more technical for everyone else. Woodward is stuck in the the test particle approximation in which the weightless geodesic motion of a ship cannot be changed by the ship itself. That is, the ship is a test particle that receives its marching orders from spacetime, but does not directly change the shape of space-time in its immediate vicinity. Warp drive changes all that!


On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:36:25 -0700 Jack Sarfatti

writes:



Memorandum for the Record

Subject: The necessity of the Russian torsion fields for

weightless


warp drive of the UFOs.

On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:45 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:





On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:47 AM, a retired US Naval Intelligence
Officer wrote:
"Yes, and I applaud your efforts to extend GR to include torsion;
as you know, I too have always believed torsion is vital for
propellantless propulsion. Seems like some small scale
engineering experimental method is needed to test your math"

My math is quite solid. I mean my proof that you cannot have
weightless warp drive without the torsion field in the sense of
the Moscow physicist Gennady Shipov. That is, without Shipov's torsion, the residual zero point vacuum dark energy density field proportional to /\zpf cannot vary in space and time because of the 1915 GR Bianchi identities. Every physicist in the field will agree with that much. The good data on UFOs shows the reality of the torsion fields. No Paul Hill "acceleration field" without torsion fields.




The curved part of the tetrad field B ~ (hG/c^3)^1/2@(x)^a(Pa/ih)

where {Pa/ih} is the Lie algebra of T4 and @(x)^a are the 4 space-
time dependent phases from the local gauging of T4 -> Diff(4).
Similarly for the torsion 2-form T ~ (hG/c^3)@(x)^a^bSab where {Sab}
is the Lie algebra of O(1,3) and @(x)^a^b are the 6 space-time
dependent phases of the local gauging of O(1,3).

Also

B = Budx^u is a dimensionless 1-form for the curved part of the
Einstein-Cartan tetrad

Bu = Bu^a&a

T = Tuvdx^u/\dx^v

Tuv = Tuv^a&a

{&a} is the basis of 1-co-forms (tangent vectors) in the tangent space

{dx^u} is the basis of 1-forms in the base space

The Einstein-Cartan tetrad field is

e' = e + S

e = 1 + B

B = (hG/c^3)d(Goldstone Phase of Vacuum ODLRO Higgs Field)

S is the torsion 1-form and the problem is to find its relation to

the torsion 2-form

T = D'e' = de' + (W + S)/\e'

d1 = 0

W is the torsion-free spin connection of 1915 GR that is completely determined from B.

T = dB + dS + (W + S)/\(1 + B + S)

However by definition

dB + W/\(1 + B) = 0

Therefore, the basic curvature-torsion equation is

T = dS + W/\S + S/\(1 + B + S)

OK, I think I now have the correct formula.

Recall that 1915 GR is simply the EEP

guv(curved) = (Iu^a + B(x)u^a)nab(flat)(Iv^b + B(x)v^b)


"but Shipov's toy models don't appear to test your math."

I don't know.


From: Jack Sarfatti

Subject: Re: Exotic weapons torsion field R&D in Mainland China?

Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:16:47 -0700

Yes, but even more important I have the math down completely now
for all this stuff. The Chinese are BS'ing in that article. It's
flakey.
On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:49 PM, ... US Naval Intelligence, ret,wrote:

"Whether info or disfo, this is interesting and China is a
developing threat, much more so than many realize."

From: Jack Sarfatti
To: Kit Green ...
Subject: Exotic weapons torsion field R&D in Mainland China?

Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700

Memorandum For The Record

Subject: Threat Assessment

http://www.halturnershow.com/ChineseDefenseMinisterTalksWarAgainstUS.html

The Chinese report below appears to be mostly disinformation &
misinformation for foreigners. That does not preclude real fire
covered by smoke and mirrors.

Important background information on the torsion physics
mentioned below is at
http://qedcorp.com/APS/zpf2005.pdf updated periodically
also Discussion Forum at http://stardrive.org
and in 3 books:
Destiny Matrix
Space-Time & Beyond II
Super Cosmos
http://amazon.com

On Sep 12, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Gennady Shipov wrote:

"Jack!

In China very quickly develop torsion technologies.

Look at the attachment."


Jack Sarfatti :

Of course, back then this was not understood. Bureaucrats like ... in DIA are holding USG back in this whole field in US Defense Effort. Meantime the Indians, Chinese, Iranians, Ukrainians and Russians are forging ahead. It's no accident that I was invited to publish in a book from the Ukranian Academy of Sciences in Kiev. Those guys are not stupid. The Chinese are really open to this stuff. Note the new Russian-Chinese
joint War Games. Gennady Shipov is attacked by some of his "KGB"
colleagues, but I now can prove that we do need his torsion field to make all of this advanced weaponry really work! We see the torsion weaponry out there in the UFO data of Bruce Maccabee, NIDS et-al. So someone knows how to do it and we don't.

Shipov Gennady:
"Jack!
In China very quickly develop torsion technologies.
Look the attachment."

My preliminary comments for the record, indeed my equations show the interplay of the Russian torsion fields with the zero point vacuum energy density that would probably explain the anomalous "cold fusion" data that in reality is release of dark energy if cold fusion exists.


"Xing•liu Jiang, Xiong•wei Wen, China Science School,
Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Beijing
100083 and Li•jun Han, China Department of Materials Science
and Engineering, Beijing University of Aeronautics and
Astronautics, Beijing 100083

ABSTRACT
Highly localized nuclear activation in electrochemical
systems and other electrical discharge processes have been
observed by many laboratories in the world. This report is
an attempt to explain such anomalous phenomena by using
torsion field theory and axion model. Anisotopic behaviours
of radiation products, burst character, "heat after death"
of excess energy release in electrical discharge systems are
considered to be interpreted by the torsion coherence of
vortex dynamics with the zero point energy induced by
localized intense field emission of micro-protrusion ofthe
cathode, and the dynamic Casimir effect of transient
evolution of triple region of gas, liquid solution, and
electrode protrusion. Axion model and Primakoff's effect are
proposed for explanation of nuclear transmutation without
noticeable gamma radiation."

These allegations cannot be checked without the mathematics. Briefly here is the real story in terms of mainstream physics. We use the elegant local frame invariant Einstein-Cartan exterior differential forms mathematics for the tetrad gravity field that is the "square root" of Einstein's 1915
symmetric metric tensor field. The tetrad technique is analogous to the Dirac "square root" of the quantum Klein- Gordon equation. Note that the metric is the anti-commutator of the Dirac matrices and Einstein's curved space-time geometrodynamic field guv is a symmetric bilinear form in the Einstein-Cartan tetrad 1-form field e where

e = 1 + B

When B = 0 we have globally flat Minkowski space-time. According to the local equivalence principle there is no real gravity (i.e. geodesic deviation tidal curvature) in that limit. Technically B is the compensating gauge potential when global T4 of special relativity is replaced by local Diff(4). In addition using the charge neutral Vacuum ODLRO VEV Higgs-
Goldstone field for the spontaneous breakdown of SU(2)
hypercharge in the standard model we can write

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2d(Mean Goldstone Phase)

Goldstone Phase is a 0-form

No gravity & no inertia when h = 0 or 1/c = 0 even when G =/= 0.
Gravity and inertia are emergent "More is different" (P.W.
Anderson) properties of the spontaneous breakdown of SU(2)
hypercharge symmetry in the physical vacuum consistent with
the Standard Model explanation for inertia of quarks and leptons.


d is the Cartan exterior derivative, and we use the mean Goldstone Phase averaged over the internal indices of non- abelian SU(2).

The d^2 = 0 rule is suspended due to non-trivial multiply-
connected manifold cohomology in physical space and in VEV
local order parameter space. I call this "Flux without flux"

BTW like Wheeler's "Charge without charge". In Wheeler-
Feynman theory the gauge force connections are dynamically
redundant and are replaced by the source fields with advanced
light cone propagators. See Hoyle & Narlikar for1915 GR
version of Wheeler- Feynman elimination of the EM field for
the gravity case. Whether this 1940 classical idea survives
the transition to quantum field theory is an open question of
course.

Ref. John Baez, Gravity & Knots
Hagen Kleinert on "multi-valued gauge transformations"
Michael Berry "phase singularities"
Dirac Strings
Abrikosov phase jump branch cuts in physical space in Type II
superconducting magnetic vortex lattices

Therefore

F = dB =/= 0

If this were U(1) Maxwell EM field theory, the 4 Maxwell
equations would be in 2-lines

dF = 0 (metric independent - Faraday induction & no magnetic


monopoles laws)

d*F = *J (metric/constitutive material-dependent Ampere's & Gauss's laws)

* = Hodge dual p-form to N - p form in N-dim space-time.

hence

*d*F = J = current density 1-form

Local current density conservation is

d^2d*F = d*J = 0

Transition to gravity, i.e. General Relativity

W = spin connection

The Gennady Shipov torsion 2-form is

T = De = de + W/\e = dB + W/\(1 + B)

In 1915 GR

T = 0 , therefore W is determined completely by B.

In Gennady Shipov's theory O(1,3) is also locally gauged to give T =/ = 0, so now W depends on both B & T.

What is the torsion connection 1-form S?

If we use S = *dT we get

e' = e + S = 1 + B + S

Only use e to get EEP

guv = (1u^I + Bu^I)nIJ(1v^J + Bv^J) ?

If we use S = *DT we seem to get an infinite regress for W in terms of B & S.

Locally gauging entire Poincare group of 1905 SR gives Shipov's 10D "oriented point", which is essentially D3 BRANE theory BTW!

Finally the curvature 2-Form is

R = DW = dW + W/\W

Why the torsion field is needed.

In 1915 GR the Bianchi identities using the zero torsion tetrad


e = 1 + B

give

DR = 0

analogous to

d*J = 0 in EM

Einstein's exotic dark energy vacuum field equation is

R/\e + /\zpfe/\e/\e = 0 as a 3-form equation.

This implies that

D/\zpf = d/\zpf = 0

/\zpf is a 0-form

with

De = 0

i.e. /\zpf is a constant.

When we add torsion we get

D' = d + W/\ + S/
with

D'R = 0

Therefore

DR =/= 0

hence

d/\zpf =/= 0

in presence of a torsion field.

The zero point dark energy-stress tensor is

tuv(zpf) = (c^4/8piG*)/\zpfguv

/\zpf > 0 is repulsive dark energy of negative vacuum pressure (blue shift)

/\zpf < 0 is attractive dark matter (mis-named) of positive vacuum pressure (red shift)

/\zpf ~ (vacuum coherence length)^-1(anyon condensate
coherence length)^-1cos(Vacuum Phase - Anyon Phase)

This permits low power practical metric engineering of WEIGHTLESS Warp and Wormhole.

All the numerical PV estimates of Puthoff, Davis & Co are completely irrelevant. No USG money should be spent on high power laser bending of space-time - much too small. No Bang a mere Whimper for a Big Buck! Waste of tax money.

Monday, September 05, 2005

Leonard Susskind's book on Black Holes & Strings

6. "The Questions are: What are [Lenny's] Questions?"

"It was assumed that all observers would agree on the usual invariant relationships between events. This view persisted even in classical general relativity. But the paradigm is gradually shifting. It was never adequate to deal with the combination of quantum mechanics and general relativity."

Actually Lenny is raising a Red Herring here, although it does not affect some of his conclusions.

The agreement of observers is strictly for LOCAL COINCIDENT observers all in the same local neighborhood. It does not at all apply to widely separated observers in the "black hole complementarity" gedanken experiment.

The issue however is to avoid contradictions when LIF Alice or coincident LNIF hovering Bob communicates with distant LNIF Eve in the asymptotic flat region before Alice plunges into the horizon like Tit Willow into the billowy wave.

Consider a proton passing through the horizon, the time for the virtual transitions is stretched out for the distant observer Eve by the red shift. Eve sees a "short-lived virtual fluctuation stretched out into a real process" p. 92. Essentially all contradictions are avoided by the implications of this insight. The proper temperature T of the Hawking radiation is ~ hovering "g-force" acceleration by the Unruh effect so that it is also going to infinity as (1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-3/2 as r approaches 2GM/c^2 from the outside.

"In order to make an observation while the proton" [LIF Alice] is in a region of temperature" [greater than that needed for baryon number violation for example] "the" [coincident LNIF observer Bob] must do so very quickly. In the proton's" [LIF] "frame the time spent in the hot region before crossing the horizon" [is very short] "1/Mx. Thus, to obtain a single bit of information" [Bob] "must probe it with at least one quantum of energy of order Mx. But such an interaction ... can cause a baryon violation even from the perspective of the proton" [Alice] "Thus the observer" [Bob] cannot measure and report" [to Eve] "the absence of a baryon-violating interaction without himself causing it."

The situation here is akin to the Einstein-Bohr Box gedankenexperiment.

"an unprecedented mix of short distance and long distance. Radical changes ..."

As Above, So Below

"Black Hole Complementarity ... a new kind of relativity in which the location of phenomena depends upon the resolution time available to the experimenter who probes the system ... Alice" [Through The Looking Glass, Down the Wabbit Hole]", falling into an enormous black hole with Schwarzschild radius of a billion years. According to the low frequency observer, namely Alice herself ... nothing special is felt at the horizon ... In apparent complete contradiction, the high frequency observer who stays outside the black hole finds that his description involves Alice falling into a hellish region of extreme temperature, being thermalized, and eventually re-emitted as Hawking radiation. All of this takes place just outside the mathematical horizon ... the key to black hole complementarity is the extreme red shift of the quantum fluctuations as seen by the external observer."

Note that to a hovering rest LNIF observer Bob outside, but near to, the horizon Alice's LIF 21 cm signal, in her rest frame, to Bob sent from when she was far away from the horizon in the asymptotic flat region coincident with Eve is, is blue shifted to a much shorter wavelength, That same 21 cm signal sent by Alice when coincident with Bob near, but outside the horizon will be red shifted to a much longer wavelength received by Eve also hovering but at a huge distance from the horizon. Both Bob and Eve are non-geodesic feeling g-force from firing a rocket in space. Eve is practically weightless compared to Bob. Bob's g-force approaches infinity as he gets closer HOVERING a small distance above the horizon, i.e., (g-force)^i ~ mc^2(LC)^i00 ~ [(1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-3/2](GMm/r^2) (check this formula I did it quick & dirty).

"The second new idea is the Infrared/Ultraviolet connection ... If one wished to study ... smaller and smaller objects one had to use higher and higher energy probes ...But once gravity is involved that trend is reversed ... At energies above the Planck scale any possible short scale physics is shrouded behind an event horizon."

Note that Hal Puthoff's PV SSS metric without an event horizon is inconsistent with this IR/UV duality. It has other things wrong with it as well of course.

"Third is the holographic principle, the non-redundant degrees of freedom that describe a region of space are on its boundary."

Remember the generalized Stoke's theorem

(p+1|d|p) = (&(p+1)|p)

d = exterior derivative

& = boundary operator

|p) = p-form

(p+1| is a p+1 co-form manifold on which to integrate p+1 forms (bra-ket inner product).

When the manifold co-form is multiply-connected with cohomology group larger than the identity, there are cycles that are not boundaries.

Let p = 2 in 4D space-time, then

(3|d|2) = (&3|2)

In 3D-space this would be the static divergence theorem, but now we are in 4D space-time. The World Hologram seems to be connected with this theorem?

In general relativity both curvature and torsion are |2> forms.

The curvature 2-form is

R = DW = dW + W/\W

W = the spin connection 1-form

The torsion is

T = De = de + W/\e = 0 in 1915 GR so W determined by e

e = Einstein-Cartan tetrad "square root" of the metric tensor.

In my emergent vacuum ODLRO c-number theory

e = 1 + B

this is all local frame-invariant

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2d(Mean Goldstone Phase of SU(2)hypercharge SSB)

Therefore, from topological

(3|d|2) = (&3|2)

(3|(D - W/\|R) = (&3|R)

Which is kind of interesting to ponder before going on to black hole as string idea.

to be continued

On Sep 5, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

5.

"It was assumed that all observers would agree on the usual invariant relationships between events. This view persisted even in classical general relativity. But the paradigm is gradually shifting. It was never adequate to deal with the combination of quantum mechanics and general relativity."

Actually Lenny is raising a Red Herring here, although it does not affect some of his conclusions.

The agreement of observers is strictly for LOCAL COINCIDENT observers all in the same local neighborhood. It does not at all apply to widely separated observers in the "black hole complementarity" gedanken experiment. That is consider three observers, Alice, Bob and Eve.

Alice is LIF ("FREDO") and Bob is LNIF ("FIDO") but instantly coincident with Alice. Eve is the asymptotic LNIF (FIDO) observer far away from the black hole horizon in the asymptotic flat region receiving redshifted signals from outside the horizon. Black Hole complementarity is the relation between Alice and Eve. The usual invariant relation of ds^2 = guvdx^udx^v still obtains between Alice and Bob even when they are inside the event horizon.



Typo-corrected "micro-geon" below:
On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


Lenny's densely mathematical book is not a popular book. It is incomprehensible to the general reader and it is not easy going for the professional theoretical physicist not in the sub-field. However, it has moments of great clarity and if it is wrong, as George Chapline thinks, it is brilliantly wrong. Certainly pieces of Lenny's thesis will survive. So, to really see what the book is about, it's best to read the end of the book first and then go back to the beginning. Lenny emphasizes the key role on nonlocality (e.g. nonlocality of gravity energy?) in black hole complementarity.

"In order to reconcile the equivalence principle with the rules of quantum mechanics the rules of locality must be massively modified."

I like the idea of the blackhole as a string since I already published in 1974 the explanation of the Regge slope alpha' (for strings)


J ~ alpha'E^2

alpha' ~ (1Gev)^-2

as rotating Kerr black hole Wheeler "micro-geon" with effective strong gravity G* ~ 10^40G in Herbert Frohlich's "Collective Phenomena". Indeed, that's why Abdus Salam invited me to ICTP Trieste, Italy 1973-74 (e.g. contact Jagdish Mehra).

What will survive is the IR/UV duality. What about LIF/LNIF complementarity? Intriguing. What is completely missing in Lenny's theory is Vacuum ODLRO. For example, Lenny never considers a Bose-Einstein condensate in the vacuum in which there is a macroscopic eigenvalue of the first reduced density matrix. All eigenvalues must be less than 1 in Lenny's theory. Second, Lenny used a positive energy density to derive some of his key results when in fact negative zero point energy density would describe dark matter. Third, Lenny's ADS model has the wrong sign of the actually observed small post-inflation cosmological constant. How fatal this is I do not know yet. Perhaps he analytically continues to the DS model? That is ADS is "dark matter" with negative zero point energy density and positive pressure. DS is "dark energy" with positive zero point energy density and negative pressure. Furthermore, Lenny's equation for p the power of t in the FRW scale factor a(t) ~ t^p breaks down in the most important case, i.e. p -> infinity when w -> -1, which is the case for zero point energy. One nice idea is that the D3 brane of M-theory is the kind of 3+1 space-time we live in with the 6 extra space-time dimensions as "scalar fields". This fits well with Gennady Shipov's torsion field theory extension of 1915 GR. Indeed, if we interpret these scalar fields as vacuum ODLRO Higgs-Goldstone fields associated with the local gauging of the Lorentz group O(1,3) then the vacuum order parameter space is SU(2)xSU(2) consistent with the Hedgehog anomaly centered at Sun seen in the TWO NASA Pioneer Space Probes where a_g = - cH(t). All stars may have this property, i.e. part of stellar formation? Maybe even galaxies have it? That is vacuum ODLRO topological defects as seeds for early galaxy formation explaining galactic halos as well?






On Sep 1, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:




Comment 3
Lenny's book will not be comprehensible to the math-illiterate New Age reader. He opens up with the math of black holes in different coordinate representations nicely presented in a way that implicitly clearly shows why Hal Puthoff's PV alternative to the black hole is not a good theory. But you need to remember (or look up) your high school logarithms and the trigonometry formula for the tangent of the half-angle to show from eqs (1.1.2) to (1.1.4) that a signal from the black hole surface horizon never reaches the distant observers. The Penrose diagram makes that instantly obvious of course. Hal uses isotropic coordinates inside the event horizon where they are not appropriate. He says he can do that because his exponential metric does not have an event horizon. But in that case his solution does not obey Einstein's vacuum GR equation Ruv = 0. Therefore, PV theory conflicts with GR. Indeed, PV theory is not consistent with Diff(4) tensors and therefore, it violates the equivalence principle. In spite of that Hal Puthoff claims he is not offering a theory different from GR but only an "engineer's" way to do it. This, of course, is self-contradictory. Note that in George Chapline's "dark star" theory there is dark energy behind the event horizon, i.e. not Ruv = 0, but the same equation I use

Guv + /\zpfguv = 0

We do seem to need Gennady Shipov's torsion field beyond 1915 GR to allow

/\zpf^,v =/= 0 at the event horizon boundary because the Bianchi identities without torsion demand /\zpf^,v = 0.

On Aug 31, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:




Comment 2

Lenny: "Eventually the black hole must completely evaporate. Hawking then raised the question of what becomes of the quantum correlations between matter outside the black hole and matter that disappears behind the horizon. ... Hawking then made arguments that there is no way, consistent with causality, for the correlations to be carried by the outgoing evaporation products."

Jack: So much the worse for causality, which here means no space-like influences outside the local light cones. Bell's theorem shows that such space-like influences are needed and they are locally random in micro-quantum theory consistent with the blackbody radiation.

Lenny: "Thus, according to Hawking, the existence of black holes inevitably causes a loss of quantum coherence and breakdown of one of the basic principles of quantum mechanics - the evolution of pure states into pure states."

Jack: So much the worse for micro-quantum mechanics. It's time to slaughter that Sacred Cow. Global special relativity of 1905 is violated by the necessity of gravity and inertia in local general relativity of 1915 where it is relegated to a purely local tangent space by the equivalence principle. In the same way micro-quantum mechanics is not complete, but merely corresponds to nonlocally entangled small fluctuations about the stiff macro-quantum vacuum ODLRO coherent order parameter that provides the local fabric of space-time via

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2d(argVacuum ODLRO).

Lenny: "Hawking further argued that once the loss of quantum coherence is permitted in black hole evaporation, it becomes compulsory in all processes involving the Planck scale. The world would behave as if it were in a noisy environment which continuously leads to a loss of coherence. The trouble with this is that there is no known way to destroy coherence without at the same time violating energy conservation by heating the world."

Jack: I need to see the math of the above argument. Why does not the expansion of the universe cool down this alleged heating effect? Also total energy is not necessarily conserved in curved space-time because of the breakdown of time translation symmetry. Presumably the book will explain this argument in more detail. Lenny wants to hold on to micro-quantum unitarity at all costs and I think this is the basic error in his thesis, but I could be wrong. The macro-quantum vacuum ODLRO order parameter does not obey a unitary time evolution. You cannot think of |psi|^2 as a Born quantum probability density like you can for micro-quantum wave functions.

Indeed the space integral of |psi(x)|^2 need not be a constant of the motion at all. For example, you have a pot of superfluid helium at almost T = 0 at t = 0 and then you slowly heat it. As you heat the superfluid it turns to normal fluid completely disappearing at the lambda point. In the case of vacuum ODLRO the "normal fluid" is the dark energy!

On Aug 31, 2005, at 9:07 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:





"Black Holes, Information and the String Theory Revolution: The Holographic Universe"

Comment 1

Lenny: "The paradox was discovered by Jacob Bekenstein and turned into a serious crisis by Stephen Hawking. ... Bekenstein realized that if the second law of thermodynamics was not to be violated in the presence of a black hole, the black hole must possess an intrinsic entropy. ... How and why a classical solution of field equations should be endowed with thermodynamical attributes has remained obscure."

Jack: The black hole is a property of Einstein's vacuum equation

Ruv = 0

However, this equation is a c-number emergent field theory from vacuum ODLRO. George Chapline, Jr and I have both arrived at this general idea quite independently. Let the vacuum ODLRO order parameter be

psi = |psi|e^iargpsi

suppress internal symmetry indices, but think of SU(2)hypercharge that has a neutral VEV in the standard model (evidence from NASA Pioneer anomaly a_g = -cH(t) as a hedgehog topological defect centered at Sun).

Let the Einstein-Cartan 1-form be

e = 1 + B

My ansatz is

B = (hG/c^3)^1/2d(argtheta)

with "string" branch cuts in argtheta

Therefore, there is no gravity and inertia when h -> 0 and c -> infinity even when G =/= 0. There is still some residual "normal fluid" fluctuations around the stiff vacuum order parameter psi that obeys the rules of micro-quantum theory as given by Lenny. The ratio of normal to superfluid obviously has a temperature parameter T. Therefore, Lenny's question is answered.

to be continued