Old Star Gates Getting Bigger as Universe Accelerates
A bad assumption?
On May 3, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
“Recently introduced toy surface plasmon "black holes" and "wormholes" (New Journal of Physics 5, 147.1-147.8 (2003), and gr-qc/0306089) can be used to create a toy "time machine" according to a number of published designs (see for example I.D. Novikov, Sov.Phys.JETP 68, 439 (1989)). Assuming that such a toy "time machine" does not work, a general prediction can be made of strong electromagnetic field enhancement inside an arbitrarily-shaped nanohole near an arising effective event horizon, which is supposed to prevent the toy "time machine" from being operational. This general result is useful in description of the nonlinear optical behavior of random nanoholes in metal films.”
Igor I. Smolyaninov, Chronology protection in a toy surface plasmon "time machine"
http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0311140
“The effects that the present accelerating expansion of the universe has on the size and shape of Lorentzian wormholes and ringholes are considered. It is shown that, quite similarly to how it occurs for inflating wormholes, relative to the initial embedding-space coordinate system, whereas the shape of the considered holes is always preserved with time, their size is driven by the expansion to increase by a factor which is proportional to the scale factor of the universe. In the case that dark energy is phantom energy, which is not excluded by present constraints on the dark-energy equation of state, that size increase with time becomes quite more remarkable, and a rather speculative scenario is here presented where the big rip can be circumvented by future advanced civilizations by utilizing sufficiently grown up wormholes and ringholes as time machines that shortcut the big-rip singularity.”
Pedro Gonzalez-Diaz Wormholes and Ringholes in a Dark-Energy Universe
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0308382
I had this same idea independently.
“Space-time wormholes were introduced in Wheeler's idea of space-time foam. Traversible wormholes as defined by Morris & Thorne became popular as potential short cuts across the universe and even time machines. More recently, the author proposed a general theory of wormhole dynamics, unified with black-hole dynamics. This article gives a brief review of the above ideas and summarizes progress on wormhole dynamics in the last year. Firstly, a numerical study of dynamical perturbations of the first Morris-Thorne wormhole showed it to be unstable, either collapsing to a black hole or exploding to an inflationary universe. This provides a mechanism for inflating a wormhole from space-time foam to usable size. Intriguing critical behaviour was also discovered. Secondly, a wormhole solution supported by pure radiation was discovered and used to find analytic examples of dynamic wormhole processes which were also recently found in a two-dimensional dilaton gravity model: the construction of a traversible wormhole from a Schwarzschild black hole and vice versa, and the enlargement or reduction of the wormhole.” Sean A. Hayward, Recent progress in wormhole dynamicshttp://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306051
“We show explicitly that traversable wormholes requiring exotic matter in 4-dimensions nevertheless have acceptable stress-tensors obeying reasonable energy conditions in higher dimensions if the wormholes are regarded as being embedded in higher dimensional space-times satisfying Einstein's field equations. From the 4-dimensional perspective, the existence of higher dimensions may thus facilitate wormhole and time-machine constructions through access to exotic matter.”
A note on 4-dimensional traversable wormholes and energy conditions in higher dimensions W. F. Kao, Chopin Soo
Replace “exotic matter” by my exotic vacuum /\zpf local field from the intensity of the vacuum coherence that we can probably manipulate with rotating superconductors and by other means.
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306004
Monday, May 03, 2004
On May 3, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
Chronology protection in a toy surface plasmon "time machine"
http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0311140
Wormholes and Ringholes in a Dark-Energy Universe
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0308382
Recent progress in wormhole dynamics
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306051
A note on 4-dimensional traversable wormholes and energy conditions in higher dimensions
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306004
Gary S. Bekkum
garysbekkum@hotmail.com
On May 3, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
“Hi Jack.
According to Marckus, the Nazi time machine is roughly called "lantern holder of time" (page 228) ... this being not a time machine, but a homing signal.
Of course David Deutsch would tell you that "other times" are special cases of "other universes"; in some of those alternative worlds the Nazis won WWII; developed exotic weapons etc. Perhaps they were trying to call for help?”
Gary
Good point. The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive from Sir Fred Hoyle’s sci-fi novel “The Black Cloud” that I read at Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick “The Man in the High Castle.” You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality seriously. See also “Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals” by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals. All is factual.
BTW Nick Cook mentions a big aerospace legend guy who could make paperclips float - "Operation Paperclip"? ;-)
Chronology protection in a toy surface plasmon "time machine"
http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0311140
Wormholes and Ringholes in a Dark-Energy Universe
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0308382
Recent progress in wormhole dynamics
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306051
A note on 4-dimensional traversable wormholes and energy conditions in higher dimensions
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306004
Gary S. Bekkum
garysbekkum@hotmail.com
On May 3, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
“Hi Jack.
According to Marckus, the Nazi time machine is roughly called "lantern holder of time" (page 228) ... this being not a time machine, but a homing signal.
Of course David Deutsch would tell you that "other times" are special cases of "other universes"; in some of those alternative worlds the Nazis won WWII; developed exotic weapons etc. Perhaps they were trying to call for help?”
Gary
Good point. The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive from Sir Fred Hoyle’s sci-fi novel “The Black Cloud” that I read at Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick “The Man in the High Castle.” You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality seriously. See also “Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals” by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals. All is factual.
BTW Nick Cook mentions a big aerospace legend guy who could make paperclips float - "Operation Paperclip"? ;-)
bcc (select)
On May 3, 2004, at 4:03 PM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Howdy Jack
Thanks for the feedback.
Well I have read the book. John Alexander attempted to get Nick and I together, however that did not play out.
I remember we had related discussions at ISSO with Creon and Saul-Paul but I did not take notes. Did you mention the Bell machine then? This would have been before Nick did his book.
One thing that many people do not know [or have overlooked] is that the mythos of weird German science has been exaggerated both by the left and the right. The Germans did not have super science, they were however looking at some areas that may not have received as much attention in the USA or Britain.
For example Peter Goudschmidt [ALSOS project...mission into Rhineland ahead of allied forces to reach the German bomb project] dismissed reports of German research in directed energy weapons [there were at least 5 separate programs] as science fiction "like the German rocketry program". Also much of the lack of German progress in radar has been used as an example of how science could not flourish under such a regime. Probably true on many levels...however again history has been re-written. The German research in WW-II concentrated on unique radar countermeasures, one of which is still real close to a classified approach.
Many people are unaware of the German research in electro-optics including infrared television camera and a NONLINEAR optical image intensifier...I know the engineer at North American who examined and tested a German device that was using something like a DFWM imaging system...at least that is what the optical diagram looked like to me.......
1945 was the year that saw the highest production levels in many German industries...jet aircraft were in production with assembly areas hidden in the black-forest.
The BF was in fact the area with the largest number of black projects. Including one that was written about in 1947 that described in very sober details an attempt to control gravity using engineering attempts to apply unified field theories. AND THAT facility was known to the lANL folks we talked to in 1992. NONE of that was in Cook's book.....nor [correct me if I am wrong] did he include the most obvious thing supporting him...the 1957 FBI document on the the Gut Alt Gollsen facility 30 miles east of Berlin.....
Can we get and publish these documents?
Did you study Victor Schauberger's stuff?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 2:59 PM
To: Creon Levit
Subject: Pro Feedback on Nick Cook's Hunt for Zero Point
bcc
On May 3, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Creon Levit wrote:
On May 3, 2004, at 12:37 PM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Again:
Think of this [even for one tiny moment] in military historical context.
...[snip]
4] wartime priorities would dictate that the research was aimed at a practical goal...HELLO team, they wanted to win the war....not win the god damn nebula award for horses ass thinking!
Their wartime priorities were, I thought, secondary to their obsession with exterminating the Jews, and to some lesser-known insane projects, e.g:
By early 1945, the Nazi strategy had been reduced to the bizarre. In an attempt to stiffen German morale, the high command unveiled an epic movie on the resistance of a small German town to the invasion of Napoleon in 1807. Kolberg, which had been created at Goebbels's insistence, was a film with Hollywood flair. It included 187,000 soldiers, who had been borrowed from the front to serve as extras. And at a time when the rail lines were under siege, hundreds of train cars had been commandeered to transport salt to the set where it became the "snow" of winter scenery. Even the director was appalled at the excess. "Hitler and Goebbels must have been obsessed with the idea that a film like this could be more useful to them than even a victory in Russia," he said.
from: www.bookbrowse.com/index.cfm?page=title&titleID=127&view=Print
I've heard similar stories about Goebbels' obsession with his film production of Baron Muchausen.
On May 3, 2004, at 12:37 PM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Again:
Think of this [even for one tiny moment] in military historical context.
1] aside from sci-fi drama, what exactly would anyone hope to accomplish [in military sense], with a time machine?
At this point you need to read Nick's book. Remember he is a seasoned investigator for Janes Defence Weekly in London. His historical research seems good to me despite the physics misconceptions from Hal & Co that perhaps led him astray in some of his judgment calls but not all.
2] what person would be fool enough to propose this idea to the SS? Yeah the Germans funded some weird stuff...but most of that was at a small fringe science level......not a major research endeavor with underground facilities and slave labor and [note how the weird stuff is always magically underground???, harder to verify the story I guess???]
3] excluding the bad science, why would a war torn Germany invest in a grandioues project to build a device with no practical application [again pleas refrain from sending me any comments about sending Hitler into the future.....I am not in a secret decoder ring mood today].
4] wartime priorities would dictate that the research was aimed at a practical goal...HELLO team, they wanted to win the war....not win the god damn nebula award for horses ass thinking!
5] the Kiel shipyard experiments are an example...the goal.......radar countermeasures and possible EMI disruption of near to ship magnetic proximity mines.......okay that is a logical research goal.
Yes there wass actually a program and it had NOTHING to do with this shit!
Tell then what you know. Especially tell it to Nick Cook who in on the select small bcc. :-)
On May 3, 2004, at 12:26 PM, John Brandenburg wrote:
Dear friends,
If the Nazis had invented a time machine we would probably be speaking
German now, or in my case , would be soap, assuming that my father
would have survived his 25 combat missions over Germany and been able to
conceive me. This whole "Nazi Uber-Science" business reminds me of the
Hilter diaries scam: an almost complete fabrication and meant to somehow
intellectually rehabilitate the third reich. The truth is, the Germans
were certainly clever, but they drove most of the the best minds in
europe to the united states and sent the rest to Auschwitz . If anyone
made progress on controlled gravity it was probably the allies, and the
allies progress was at least enough to enable them to comprehend the UFO
phenomenon when it crashed in their backyard. The allies of course, can
keep secrets. So I say "bah humbug" to this German super science idea.
Brandenburg's alternative history: the nazie time machine was bombed by
my pop before it could be tested by its research team, and after that
the surviving scientists and technitians were 'volenteered" for the
volksgrenadiers, armed with an assortment of firearms and sent East to
stop the Red Army at Kronigburg, a task at which they proved equally
unsuccessful.
"imagine things being so bad, that when the Russian army shows up,
you're happy to see them..."
Pamela Monroe
Morningstar Pass; The Collapse of the UFO Coverup
www.morningstar-pass.com
On May 3, 2004, at 11:07 AM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Jack:
Are they talking about a different "Bell machine"
Everything I was sent has NO indication of time travel........just a technical description that vaguely matched what I saw in some briefings back in 198... whatever.
What were you sent? By whom? When? Can you make full public disclosure?
This sounds like those Philadelphia expt. "experts" that had a life story remarkably similar to a cheezy 1980's movie that came out before they went public......Oy Vey
Gerlach is the key, look at who he was working with in 1920's now forgotten research
Spell it out in detail if you can and if you dare. :-)
God is in the details.
If you want anything confidential mark it at top.
I have made a major breakthrough in all this - the physics part.
On May 3, 2004, at 4:03 PM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Howdy Jack
Thanks for the feedback.
Well I have read the book. John Alexander attempted to get Nick and I together, however that did not play out.
I remember we had related discussions at ISSO with Creon and Saul-Paul but I did not take notes. Did you mention the Bell machine then? This would have been before Nick did his book.
One thing that many people do not know [or have overlooked] is that the mythos of weird German science has been exaggerated both by the left and the right. The Germans did not have super science, they were however looking at some areas that may not have received as much attention in the USA or Britain.
For example Peter Goudschmidt [ALSOS project...mission into Rhineland ahead of allied forces to reach the German bomb project] dismissed reports of German research in directed energy weapons [there were at least 5 separate programs] as science fiction "like the German rocketry program". Also much of the lack of German progress in radar has been used as an example of how science could not flourish under such a regime. Probably true on many levels...however again history has been re-written. The German research in WW-II concentrated on unique radar countermeasures, one of which is still real close to a classified approach.
Many people are unaware of the German research in electro-optics including infrared television camera and a NONLINEAR optical image intensifier...I know the engineer at North American who examined and tested a German device that was using something like a DFWM imaging system...at least that is what the optical diagram looked like to me.......
1945 was the year that saw the highest production levels in many German industries...jet aircraft were in production with assembly areas hidden in the black-forest.
The BF was in fact the area with the largest number of black projects. Including one that was written about in 1947 that described in very sober details an attempt to control gravity using engineering attempts to apply unified field theories. AND THAT facility was known to the lANL folks we talked to in 1992. NONE of that was in Cook's book.....nor [correct me if I am wrong] did he include the most obvious thing supporting him...the 1957 FBI document on the the Gut Alt Gollsen facility 30 miles east of Berlin.....
Can we get and publish these documents?
Did you study Victor Schauberger's stuff?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Sarfatti [mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 2:59 PM
To: Creon Levit
Subject: Pro Feedback on Nick Cook's Hunt for Zero Point
bcc
On May 3, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Creon Levit wrote:
On May 3, 2004, at 12:37 PM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Again:
Think of this [even for one tiny moment] in military historical context.
...[snip]
4] wartime priorities would dictate that the research was aimed at a practical goal...HELLO team, they wanted to win the war....not win the god damn nebula award for horses ass thinking!
Their wartime priorities were, I thought, secondary to their obsession with exterminating the Jews, and to some lesser-known insane projects, e.g:
By early 1945, the Nazi strategy had been reduced to the bizarre. In an attempt to stiffen German morale, the high command unveiled an epic movie on the resistance of a small German town to the invasion of Napoleon in 1807. Kolberg, which had been created at Goebbels's insistence, was a film with Hollywood flair. It included 187,000 soldiers, who had been borrowed from the front to serve as extras. And at a time when the rail lines were under siege, hundreds of train cars had been commandeered to transport salt to the set where it became the "snow" of winter scenery. Even the director was appalled at the excess. "Hitler and Goebbels must have been obsessed with the idea that a film like this could be more useful to them than even a victory in Russia," he said.
from: www.bookbrowse.com/index.cfm?page=title&titleID=127&view=Print
I've heard similar stories about Goebbels' obsession with his film production of Baron Muchausen.
On May 3, 2004, at 12:37 PM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Again:
Think of this [even for one tiny moment] in military historical context.
1] aside from sci-fi drama, what exactly would anyone hope to accomplish [in military sense], with a time machine?
At this point you need to read Nick's book. Remember he is a seasoned investigator for Janes Defence Weekly in London. His historical research seems good to me despite the physics misconceptions from Hal & Co that perhaps led him astray in some of his judgment calls but not all.
2] what person would be fool enough to propose this idea to the SS? Yeah the Germans funded some weird stuff...but most of that was at a small fringe science level......not a major research endeavor with underground facilities and slave labor and [note how the weird stuff is always magically underground???, harder to verify the story I guess???]
3] excluding the bad science, why would a war torn Germany invest in a grandioues project to build a device with no practical application [again pleas refrain from sending me any comments about sending Hitler into the future.....I am not in a secret decoder ring mood today].
4] wartime priorities would dictate that the research was aimed at a practical goal...HELLO team, they wanted to win the war....not win the god damn nebula award for horses ass thinking!
5] the Kiel shipyard experiments are an example...the goal.......radar countermeasures and possible EMI disruption of near to ship magnetic proximity mines.......okay that is a logical research goal.
Yes there wass actually a program and it had NOTHING to do with this shit!
Tell then what you know. Especially tell it to Nick Cook who in on the select small bcc. :-)
On May 3, 2004, at 12:26 PM, John Brandenburg wrote:
Dear friends,
If the Nazis had invented a time machine we would probably be speaking
German now, or in my case , would be soap, assuming that my father
would have survived his 25 combat missions over Germany and been able to
conceive me. This whole "Nazi Uber-Science" business reminds me of the
Hilter diaries scam: an almost complete fabrication and meant to somehow
intellectually rehabilitate the third reich. The truth is, the Germans
were certainly clever, but they drove most of the the best minds in
europe to the united states and sent the rest to Auschwitz . If anyone
made progress on controlled gravity it was probably the allies, and the
allies progress was at least enough to enable them to comprehend the UFO
phenomenon when it crashed in their backyard. The allies of course, can
keep secrets. So I say "bah humbug" to this German super science idea.
Brandenburg's alternative history: the nazie time machine was bombed by
my pop before it could be tested by its research team, and after that
the surviving scientists and technitians were 'volenteered" for the
volksgrenadiers, armed with an assortment of firearms and sent East to
stop the Red Army at Kronigburg, a task at which they proved equally
unsuccessful.
"imagine things being so bad, that when the Russian army shows up,
you're happy to see them..."
Pamela Monroe
Morningstar Pass; The Collapse of the UFO Coverup
www.morningstar-pass.com
On May 3, 2004, at 11:07 AM, JDering@sara.com wrote:
Jack:
Are they talking about a different "Bell machine"
Everything I was sent has NO indication of time travel........just a technical description that vaguely matched what I saw in some briefings back in 198... whatever.
What were you sent? By whom? When? Can you make full public disclosure?
This sounds like those Philadelphia expt. "experts" that had a life story remarkably similar to a cheezy 1980's movie that came out before they went public......Oy Vey
Gerlach is the key, look at who he was working with in 1920's now forgotten research
Spell it out in detail if you can and if you dare. :-)
God is in the details.
If you want anything confidential mark it at top.
I have made a major breakthrough in all this - the physics part.
Sunday, May 02, 2004
S-P have you gotten Nick Cook's book "The Hunt for Zero Point" yet?
The very end is unfortunate - Nick ends it with a plug for Bearden's MEG! Ugh! Can you resend that message from Sc Am debunking MEG?
But the book has many interesting connections and many of the people we know (John Alexander, Millis, Hathaway, Hal ...)
By far the most important idea is George Trimble's "G-Engine" concept of 1956 for which I now think I have the basic theory that encompasses Podkletnov's, Ning Li's, Schauberger's "phenomena" and includes torsion fields almost trivially. Without vacuum coherence one has nothing, and I am convinced that Hal does not yet understand what I am talking about when I use the term.
The most important "evidence" is Victor Schauberger's "Bell experiment" and how it fell into the hands of Evgeny Podkletnov's father after WWII via NKVD.
Direct connection Nazi occult -> Schauberger's "vortex implosion" -> Soviet torsion fields -> Ning Li/Podkletnov -> hooplah over free ZPE/anti-gravity leading to March 1, 2004 Aviation Week "To the Stars."
Some key physics errors that keep popping up in Nick's writing:
1. The idea that gravity emerges from pure random ZPE that Hal Puthoff pushes is completely wrong throwing the non-random vacuum coherence baby out in the turbulent waters. Dan Marckus has not seen through that confusion.
From nothing comes nothing. King Lear
The purely random ZPE SED HRP model is sound and fury, a Tale Told by an Idiot signifying nothing.
All The King's Horses and All The King's Men cannot put Humpty Dumpty together again.
One needs oil on the waters! (Ben Franklin)
2. Hal & Co basically do not understand Einstein's equivalence principle and neither does Mark Millis with all their talk about changing the inertia to get a weight reduction! That would be a bad idea even if you could do it because of "Just Six Numbers" (Martin Rees)
In the simplest terms
W = mg only in a non-geodesic LNIF
If you want to lower W on say a NASA launch pad you control g not m!
How they can make this elementary very serious error of strategic conceptualization of what The Question is over and over again is beyond my comprehension?
The Emperor truly has no clothes!
"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler
3. Nick's attempt to explain the Bell need to be deleted from the next edition. Nevertheless the Bell is the most interesting empirical part of the book. Hutchison is too of course. I knew his Austrian girlfriend at Henry Dakin's and she said Hutchison is a UFO Contactee and the "phenomenon" happens via ET intervention.
4. On Townsend-Brown we need to look at V. Petkov's "dipole" paper - in case there is some shred of truth to it. So I will re look at that. Petkov's paper may be a clue.
Begin forwarded message:
From: "s-p & m-m Sirag"
Date: May 2, 2004 1:04:58 PM PDT
To: Scott Littleton, Victor Martinez , Subject: Re: Party photos of Dr Jack Sarfatti & Uri Geller's Precog RV of"11-11!"
Scott,
The exact wording of Jack's March 29 email on Geller's March 15 comment
about 11-11 is:
"Let me note for the record today March 29, 2004 that on March 15, 2004 Uri
Geller in London told me and others at Simon Daniel's that '11-11' would be
important. He did not know more than that."
It is perhaps significant that Uri regards 11 as his "magic number". In the
book *The Geller Effect* by Uri Geller and Guy Lyon Playfair (Henry Holt,
New York, 1986) p. 257:
"Immediately prior to the mirror-materialisation episode, however, neither
Geller nor I had said anything at all for several minutes. I wondered if
what he had been reading might have been responsible, but this did not seem
possible. He was reading the page numbered 7/4 (page four of an early draft
of Chapter Seven, now Chapter Eight) in which he mentioned his work at SRI
International, and noted the seven plus four is eleven--his 'magic' number.
I found this somewhat far-fetched, although I had o admit that Uri's magic
number certainly seems to produce results. This was about a week after he
had won both the raffle prizes at Clement Freud's party with tickets
numbered 111 and 121."
[Note that 121 = 11 x 11.]
Anyone who is conversant with recent developments in unified field theory
would immediately think of 11-d supergravity which is the "low energy"
approximation model for 11-d membrane theory. In 11-d space-time there are 4
dimensions of ordinary space-time and 7 "hidden" dimensions.
The original string theory of 1970 was a 26-d space-time theory which could
handle only bosons. So there are 22 (= 11 + 11) hidden dimensions in this
theory.
The number 22 reminds me that there are 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet,
and that the well known Atbash cipher uses the fact the 22 = 11 + 11. In
this cipher the 1st letter aleph is replaced by the 22nd letter taw, the 2nd
letter beth is replaced by the 21st letter shin (and so on)--thus the world
Atabash. There are instances of this cipher in the Bible as for example in
Jeremiah 25:26 and 51:41 where "Babel" is replaced by the cipher word
"Sheshach". (Cf. *The Code Breakers* by David Kahn (Macmillan, New York,
1967).
Atbash is an example of a cryptographic code (where information is hidden in
artificially generated noise). Dual to such codes are error-correcting codes
which keep information free from random noise. Such codes have a role in
unified field theory in the sense that both the Hamming-8 code and the
Golay-24 code are used for anomaly cancellation in the heterotic string
theory, which weaves together the 10-d superstring theory with the 26-d
bosonic string theory. And this reminds me that while Golay-24 is a binary
error correcting code, there is a ternary Golay code, which is a perfect
code called Golay-11. (A perfect code of length d uses a maximally efficient
sphere-packing in a d-dimensional space.) I suspect that the Golay-11 code
may be useful in the ll-d membrane theory--but this is just a wild guess at
this point, since I have just thought of it in this context.
[Cf. J.H. Conway & N.J.A. Sloane, *Sphere Packings, Lattices and Groups*
(Springer-Verlag, New York, 1988).]
Nuff said ;-)
Saul-Paul
Cool :-)
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Date: Sun, May 2, 2004, 11:36 AM
Re Uri Geller's "11-11" precognition, this is not the first time I've run
into these numbers in a UFO context. In the early 1980s my friend Douglass
Price-Williams, a psychological anthropologist on the staff of UCLA's
Neuropsychiatric Institute, told me that he was present when Herb Schirmer,
a young Nebraska Highway Patrolman, who claimed to have been taken aboard a
UFO after he stumbled onto it (and its occupants) during a routine patrol
on 12/3/67 near the town of Ashland, NB, underwent hypno-regression by
James Harder. Among the information gleaned during this session that, to
the best of Doug's and my knowledge, never made it into print was a curious
statement by Schirmer that, as he was escorted out of the UFO by his
abductors, he found himself focusing briefly on an oblong sign just above
the exit door on which were emblazoned the words "eleven eleven" followed
by the word "fember" (or at least that's the way Schirmer recalled it under
hypnosis). According to Price-Williams, when Schirmer described the sign
he became extremely agitated, whereupon his voice took on a very different
tone and said in a calm and matter-of-fact way, "Don't worry, we have him
under control." Doug speculated that this could have been an alien
speaking directly to the investigators in real time through the subject's
lips.
Afterwards, Schirmer told Harder and Price-Williams that those numbers were
very important & somehow terrifying, although he didn't know why. From the
moment I heard this story I suspected that it reflected a date of some
sort, although there was no obvious year. "Fember" may have reflected the
month of "November," especially as Schirmer was of German descent and may
have recalled a grandparent pronouncing the word "November" in the German
way, with the v becoming an f. Also, if this had occurred when he was very
young he could well have articulated it as "'fember," dropping the initial
syllable. (For more details of the Herb Schirmer case, please see Richard
Dolan, UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE (2nd ed., Hampton Roads, 2002,
pp. 341-342.)
In any case, I doubt whether the similarity between what Schirmer saw and
Geller's recent vision (or whatever) is coincidental. "11-11," possibly
followed by another "11" and/or the word "November") may indeed prove to be
significant, whether or not it refers to the current year. I strongly urge
all UFO (and paranormal) investigators to check their notes carefully to
see if they've found anything similar, and especially if it's
contextualized, so that we can pool our data and try to make sense of what
these numbers mean. One curious synchronicity does come to mind: the
Armistice that ended World War I went into effect at the "eleventh hour of
the eleventh day of the eleventh month" of 1918. Could the "Alien Raj"
have had a surreptitious impact on the Allies in this regard? One wonders....
Cheers,
Scott
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Occidental College
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indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke
"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort
The very end is unfortunate - Nick ends it with a plug for Bearden's MEG! Ugh! Can you resend that message from Sc Am debunking MEG?
But the book has many interesting connections and many of the people we know (John Alexander, Millis, Hathaway, Hal ...)
By far the most important idea is George Trimble's "G-Engine" concept of 1956 for which I now think I have the basic theory that encompasses Podkletnov's, Ning Li's, Schauberger's "phenomena" and includes torsion fields almost trivially. Without vacuum coherence one has nothing, and I am convinced that Hal does not yet understand what I am talking about when I use the term.
The most important "evidence" is Victor Schauberger's "Bell experiment" and how it fell into the hands of Evgeny Podkletnov's father after WWII via NKVD.
Direct connection Nazi occult -> Schauberger's "vortex implosion" -> Soviet torsion fields -> Ning Li/Podkletnov -> hooplah over free ZPE/anti-gravity leading to March 1, 2004 Aviation Week "To the Stars."
Some key physics errors that keep popping up in Nick's writing:
1. The idea that gravity emerges from pure random ZPE that Hal Puthoff pushes is completely wrong throwing the non-random vacuum coherence baby out in the turbulent waters. Dan Marckus has not seen through that confusion.
From nothing comes nothing. King Lear
The purely random ZPE SED HRP model is sound and fury, a Tale Told by an Idiot signifying nothing.
All The King's Horses and All The King's Men cannot put Humpty Dumpty together again.
One needs oil on the waters! (Ben Franklin)
2. Hal & Co basically do not understand Einstein's equivalence principle and neither does Mark Millis with all their talk about changing the inertia to get a weight reduction! That would be a bad idea even if you could do it because of "Just Six Numbers" (Martin Rees)
In the simplest terms
W = mg only in a non-geodesic LNIF
If you want to lower W on say a NASA launch pad you control g not m!
How they can make this elementary very serious error of strategic conceptualization of what The Question is over and over again is beyond my comprehension?
The Emperor truly has no clothes!
"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler
3. Nick's attempt to explain the Bell need to be deleted from the next edition. Nevertheless the Bell is the most interesting empirical part of the book. Hutchison is too of course. I knew his Austrian girlfriend at Henry Dakin's and she said Hutchison is a UFO Contactee and the "phenomenon" happens via ET intervention.
4. On Townsend-Brown we need to look at V. Petkov's "dipole" paper - in case there is some shred of truth to it. So I will re look at that. Petkov's paper may be a clue.
Begin forwarded message:
From: "s-p & m-m Sirag"
Date: May 2, 2004 1:04:58 PM PDT
To: Scott Littleton
Scott,
The exact wording of Jack's March 29 email on Geller's March 15 comment
about 11-11 is:
"Let me note for the record today March 29, 2004 that on March 15, 2004 Uri
Geller in London told me and others at Simon Daniel's that '11-11' would be
important. He did not know more than that."
It is perhaps significant that Uri regards 11 as his "magic number". In the
book *The Geller Effect* by Uri Geller and Guy Lyon Playfair (Henry Holt,
New York, 1986) p. 257:
"Immediately prior to the mirror-materialisation episode, however, neither
Geller nor I had said anything at all for several minutes. I wondered if
what he had been reading might have been responsible, but this did not seem
possible. He was reading the page numbered 7/4 (page four of an early draft
of Chapter Seven, now Chapter Eight) in which he mentioned his work at SRI
International, and noted the seven plus four is eleven--his 'magic' number.
I found this somewhat far-fetched, although I had o admit that Uri's magic
number certainly seems to produce results. This was about a week after he
had won both the raffle prizes at Clement Freud's party with tickets
numbered 111 and 121."
[Note that 121 = 11 x 11.]
Anyone who is conversant with recent developments in unified field theory
would immediately think of 11-d supergravity which is the "low energy"
approximation model for 11-d membrane theory. In 11-d space-time there are 4
dimensions of ordinary space-time and 7 "hidden" dimensions.
The original string theory of 1970 was a 26-d space-time theory which could
handle only bosons. So there are 22 (= 11 + 11) hidden dimensions in this
theory.
The number 22 reminds me that there are 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet,
and that the well known Atbash cipher uses the fact the 22 = 11 + 11. In
this cipher the 1st letter aleph is replaced by the 22nd letter taw, the 2nd
letter beth is replaced by the 21st letter shin (and so on)--thus the world
Atabash. There are instances of this cipher in the Bible as for example in
Jeremiah 25:26 and 51:41 where "Babel" is replaced by the cipher word
"Sheshach". (Cf. *The Code Breakers* by David Kahn (Macmillan, New York,
1967).
Atbash is an example of a cryptographic code (where information is hidden in
artificially generated noise). Dual to such codes are error-correcting codes
which keep information free from random noise. Such codes have a role in
unified field theory in the sense that both the Hamming-8 code and the
Golay-24 code are used for anomaly cancellation in the heterotic string
theory, which weaves together the 10-d superstring theory with the 26-d
bosonic string theory. And this reminds me that while Golay-24 is a binary
error correcting code, there is a ternary Golay code, which is a perfect
code called Golay-11. (A perfect code of length d uses a maximally efficient
sphere-packing in a d-dimensional space.) I suspect that the Golay-11 code
may be useful in the ll-d membrane theory--but this is just a wild guess at
this point, since I have just thought of it in this context.
[Cf. J.H. Conway & N.J.A. Sloane, *Sphere Packings, Lattices and Groups*
(Springer-Verlag, New York, 1988).]
Nuff said ;-)
Saul-Paul
Cool :-)
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Date: Sun, May 2, 2004, 11:36 AM
Re Uri Geller's "11-11" precognition, this is not the first time I've run
into these numbers in a UFO context. In the early 1980s my friend Douglass
Price-Williams, a psychological anthropologist on the staff of UCLA's
Neuropsychiatric Institute, told me that he was present when Herb Schirmer,
a young Nebraska Highway Patrolman, who claimed to have been taken aboard a
UFO after he stumbled onto it (and its occupants) during a routine patrol
on 12/3/67 near the town of Ashland, NB, underwent hypno-regression by
James Harder. Among the information gleaned during this session that, to
the best of Doug's and my knowledge, never made it into print was a curious
statement by Schirmer that, as he was escorted out of the UFO by his
abductors, he found himself focusing briefly on an oblong sign just above
the exit door on which were emblazoned the words "eleven eleven" followed
by the word "fember" (or at least that's the way Schirmer recalled it under
hypnosis). According to Price-Williams, when Schirmer described the sign
he became extremely agitated, whereupon his voice took on a very different
tone and said in a calm and matter-of-fact way, "Don't worry, we have him
under control." Doug speculated that this could have been an alien
speaking directly to the investigators in real time through the subject's
lips.
Afterwards, Schirmer told Harder and Price-Williams that those numbers were
very important & somehow terrifying, although he didn't know why. From the
moment I heard this story I suspected that it reflected a date of some
sort, although there was no obvious year. "Fember" may have reflected the
month of "November," especially as Schirmer was of German descent and may
have recalled a grandparent pronouncing the word "November" in the German
way, with the v becoming an f. Also, if this had occurred when he was very
young he could well have articulated it as "'fember," dropping the initial
syllable. (For more details of the Herb Schirmer case, please see Richard
Dolan, UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE (2nd ed., Hampton Roads, 2002,
pp. 341-342.)
In any case, I doubt whether the similarity between what Schirmer saw and
Geller's recent vision (or whatever) is coincidental. "11-11," possibly
followed by another "11" and/or the word "November") may indeed prove to be
significant, whether or not it refers to the current year. I strongly urge
all UFO (and paranormal) investigators to check their notes carefully to
see if they've found anything similar, and especially if it's
contextualized, so that we can pool our data and try to make sense of what
these numbers mean. One curious synchronicity does come to mind: the
Armistice that ended World War I went into effect at the "eleventh hour of
the eleventh day of the eleventh month" of 1918. Could the "Alien Raj"
have had a surreptitious impact on the Allies in this regard? One wonders....
Cheers,
Scott
C. SCOTT LITTLETON
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Occidental College
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On May 2, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Tim Ventura wrote:
Hi Jack --
They are ... below. This person doesn't describe it in great detail, but when pressed once offered the following physics description:
QUOTE 1:
John: Actually, I don't think that's correct. Minkowski space-time (4-D) will not allow you to use Pythagoras' theorem to describe tensors because time needs to be expressed with the opposite sign. (please excuse my change of variable case).
ds^2 = -c^2dt^2 + dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2
(where ds describes time-like and space-like trips).
Titor's words are sloppy but his math is OK.
The tensor we should be discussing is:
ds^2 = -a^2dt^2 + w^2(df - wdt)^2 + (r^2/ D)dr^2 + r^2dq^2
Titor does not understand "tensor", ds is the invariant differential interval between two neighboring events whose separation is small compared to local scale of radii of curvature. guv is the "metric tensor" ("spin 2") that is the elastic strain tensor of "spin 1" distortion field that comes from the phase inhomogeneities in the vacuum coherence in my extension of Einstein's GR as an emergent low energy effective c-number "superfluid" ODLRO field theory from a QED vacuum instability that triggers inflation. Einstein's gravity is the remnant from inflation along with dark energy/matter.
typo "df" is really "dr"
His metric is OK for say a rotating superconductor disk like in Podkletnov's device, which I do not know if it really works. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Many men tried to fly with "wings" before the Wright Brothers with "The Wright Stuff"! ;-) Some kind of rotating superconductor device can give true anti-gravity. Now I proved that with little more than Feynman's Vol III of Lectures on Physics. It's an easy problem conceptually once one knows what to ask.
"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler
I am indebted to John A. Wheeler but not to Evgeny Podkletnov who credits Hal Puthoff with Andrei Sakharov's 1967 idea that gravity is emergent induced from zero point fluctuations (ZPF). Actually Sakharov had it wrong in 1967. Gravity comes from the nonrandom PV coherent condensate of virtual electron-positron pairs (dominant contribution at long range), it's the dark energy/matter that comes from the remnant of random ZPF. BTW Podkletnov invokes Akimov's and Shipov's "torsion field" that we considered at ISSO 1999-2000. We even brought Shipov over from Moscow at least twice. We did not come to any definite conclusion. There is a lot of coverup disinfo around the subject. Methinks the debunkers "doth protest too much."
I know the US Navy funded some of the R&D on our side - and the project may have gone "black." The issue really is the strength of the coupling of a torsion field to quantum spins of particles both real and virtual inside the vacuum. You cannot compute the torsion coupling from first principles yet anymore than you can compute G/c^4 for the curvature coupling. That so far is still a matter for experiment.
Titor has roughly the correct gravimagnetic term
w^2(df - wdt)^2
that Hal Puthoff cannot get in his "PV without PV" model.
I hope I got the symbols right but you should be able to recognize this…right? nuts... the a, f, r, Delta and q didn't make the translation in this font.
QUOTE 2:
A PONDERING HAWKING = MICROSINGULARITY
Steven Hawking proposed the existence of microsingularities that were created in the big bang. They were probably about the size of a proton and disappeared over the years due to an effect of radiation evaporation. (Yes, black holes do emit energy.)
HIGH ENERGY PHYSICS = ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY
When I first started posting online a few months ago, I said that major breakthroughs in particle physics were around your corner. Soon, CERN will bring their big machine on line and they will be smashing very fast and high-energy particles together. One of the more odd and potentially dangerous items produced from this increase in energy will be microsingularities a fraction of the size of an electron. (
ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY = LOCALIZED KERR FIELD
Yes roughly, I first suggested this in H. Frohlich's "Collective Phenomena" 1973 and worked on it with Abdus Salam in Trieste 1973-4 where I thought about making black holes in the laboratory.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/ice9.wav
Alexander Burinski in Moscow and Phillipe Gaugain in Paris are working today on similar ideas.
You need G* ~ 10^40 G on scale of one fermi ~ Lp^2/3(c/Ho)^1/3 for this idea to work and explain hadronic resonance universal Regge slope as well as stability of the spatially extended electron never solved before. V. Petkov BTW does not solve the problem.
Through trial and error, and although they are quite heavy, hot and capable of putting out a great deal of energy (300 - 500 megawatts), it's discovered that these microsingularities can be electrified and captured. It is also interesting to note at this point that electrified singularities also have two event horizons. By spinning these various microsingularities, a localized Kerr field is created.
LOCALIZED KERR FIELD = TIPLER SINUSOID
By using two microsingularities in close proximity to each other, it is possible to create, manipulate and alter the Kerr fields to create a Tipler gravity sinusoid. This field can be adjusted, rotated and moved in order to simulate the movement of mass through a donut-shaped singularity and into an alternate worldline. Thus, safe time travel.
This guy knows something. I need to see more.
Hi Jack --
They are ... below. This person doesn't describe it in great detail, but when pressed once offered the following physics description:
QUOTE 1:
John: Actually, I don't think that's correct. Minkowski space-time (4-D) will not allow you to use Pythagoras' theorem to describe tensors because time needs to be expressed with the opposite sign. (please excuse my change of variable case).
ds^2 = -c^2dt^2 + dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2
(where ds describes time-like and space-like trips).
Titor's words are sloppy but his math is OK.
The tensor we should be discussing is:
ds^2 = -a^2dt^2 + w^2(df - wdt)^2 + (r^2/ D)dr^2 + r^2dq^2
Titor does not understand "tensor", ds is the invariant differential interval between two neighboring events whose separation is small compared to local scale of radii of curvature. guv is the "metric tensor" ("spin 2") that is the elastic strain tensor of "spin 1" distortion field that comes from the phase inhomogeneities in the vacuum coherence in my extension of Einstein's GR as an emergent low energy effective c-number "superfluid" ODLRO field theory from a QED vacuum instability that triggers inflation. Einstein's gravity is the remnant from inflation along with dark energy/matter.
typo "df" is really "dr"
His metric is OK for say a rotating superconductor disk like in Podkletnov's device, which I do not know if it really works. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Many men tried to fly with "wings" before the Wright Brothers with "The Wright Stuff"! ;-) Some kind of rotating superconductor device can give true anti-gravity. Now I proved that with little more than Feynman's Vol III of Lectures on Physics. It's an easy problem conceptually once one knows what to ask.
"The Question is: What is The Question?" Wheeler
I am indebted to John A. Wheeler but not to Evgeny Podkletnov who credits Hal Puthoff with Andrei Sakharov's 1967 idea that gravity is emergent induced from zero point fluctuations (ZPF). Actually Sakharov had it wrong in 1967. Gravity comes from the nonrandom PV coherent condensate of virtual electron-positron pairs (dominant contribution at long range), it's the dark energy/matter that comes from the remnant of random ZPF. BTW Podkletnov invokes Akimov's and Shipov's "torsion field" that we considered at ISSO 1999-2000. We even brought Shipov over from Moscow at least twice. We did not come to any definite conclusion. There is a lot of coverup disinfo around the subject. Methinks the debunkers "doth protest too much."
I know the US Navy funded some of the R&D on our side - and the project may have gone "black." The issue really is the strength of the coupling of a torsion field to quantum spins of particles both real and virtual inside the vacuum. You cannot compute the torsion coupling from first principles yet anymore than you can compute G/c^4 for the curvature coupling. That so far is still a matter for experiment.
Titor has roughly the correct gravimagnetic term
w^2(df - wdt)^2
that Hal Puthoff cannot get in his "PV without PV" model.
I hope I got the symbols right but you should be able to recognize this…right? nuts... the a, f, r, Delta and q didn't make the translation in this font.
QUOTE 2:
A PONDERING HAWKING = MICROSINGULARITY
Steven Hawking proposed the existence of microsingularities that were created in the big bang. They were probably about the size of a proton and disappeared over the years due to an effect of radiation evaporation. (Yes, black holes do emit energy.)
HIGH ENERGY PHYSICS = ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY
When I first started posting online a few months ago, I said that major breakthroughs in particle physics were around your corner. Soon, CERN will bring their big machine on line and they will be smashing very fast and high-energy particles together. One of the more odd and potentially dangerous items produced from this increase in energy will be microsingularities a fraction of the size of an electron. (
ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY = LOCALIZED KERR FIELD
Yes roughly, I first suggested this in H. Frohlich's "Collective Phenomena" 1973 and worked on it with Abdus Salam in Trieste 1973-4 where I thought about making black holes in the laboratory.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/ice9.wav
Alexander Burinski in Moscow and Phillipe Gaugain in Paris are working today on similar ideas.
You need G* ~ 10^40 G on scale of one fermi ~ Lp^2/3(c/Ho)^1/3 for this idea to work and explain hadronic resonance universal Regge slope as well as stability of the spatially extended electron never solved before. V. Petkov BTW does not solve the problem.
Through trial and error, and although they are quite heavy, hot and capable of putting out a great deal of energy (300 - 500 megawatts), it's discovered that these microsingularities can be electrified and captured. It is also interesting to note at this point that electrified singularities also have two event horizons. By spinning these various microsingularities, a localized Kerr field is created.
LOCALIZED KERR FIELD = TIPLER SINUSOID
By using two microsingularities in close proximity to each other, it is possible to create, manipulate and alter the Kerr fields to create a Tipler gravity sinusoid. This field can be adjusted, rotated and moved in order to simulate the movement of mass through a donut-shaped singularity and into an alternate worldline. Thus, safe time travel.
This guy knows something. I need to see more.
Saturday, May 01, 2004
"They [the Nazi's "Bell"] were trying to build a fucking time machine."
British Black Ops Agent "Dr. Dan Marckus" to Nick Cook on p. 229 "The Hunt for Zero Point"
Very good finessed phase stability magnetic flux control is needed to get the vacuum-superconductor coherence resonance.
OK this is rough - only half-baked.
What is key is control of the relative phase between Podkletnov's rotating superconductor coherence and the interpenetrating vacuum coherence in the common support. The vacuum is everywhere the superconductor is.
You need to use the gauge-invariant canonical form of the kinetic momentum of the center of mass of a single electron pair in the control rotating superconductor:
2mv = p - (2e/c)A
p = -ihd/dx
for the circulating electron pairs in the rotating superconductor.
So per on-mass shell superconducting pair take the line integral around its circular path of radius r.
The dynamical action of the center of mass of the real electron pair is
Integral of pdx = 2mfpir^2 +( 2e/c) (enclosed magnetic flux)
where f is the frequency of rotation of the superconductor and I use the nonlocal Bohm-Aharonov effect
So the idea is to make a kind of "resonance", i.e. to finesse the magnetic flux so that the dynamical action is stably a small fraction of h in a given region of the fuselage of the Unconventional Flying Object in Paul Hill's sense with "acceleration field" zero g-force propulsion (AKA Bondi negative matter propulsion, Alcubierre geodesic warp drive)
Then we have it! We have the Black Ops 1956 Trimble G-Engine Mission Objective! I mean we are pretty close to getting it! 50 years too late, but better late than never. ;-)
That is, the induced w = -1 zero point exotic vacuum dark energy/matter field is
/\zpf ~ (Quantum of Area)^-1(density of electron pairs)^1/2(density of virtual electron-positron pairs)^1/2(volume of superconductor active region)cosine2pi[(2mfpir^2 + 2e/c(magnetic flux))/2h]
You want the magnetic flux to "point" opposite to the mechanical circulation - like anti-parallel spins i.e. the sense of the mechanical vortex circulation of rotation must be relative to the applied magnetic field such that the two terms subtract to get a very tiny action less than 2h for the single pair.
The idea is that the virtual electron pairs of the vacuum coherence are merely the background "reference" beam for this "vacuum hologram" in a rough analogy, with the rotating superconductor and its enclosed magnetic flux like the scattered beam in the hologram.
The reason one does not see anti-gravity easily is that the damn action is too big compared to 2h so the cosine term fluctuates rapidly averaging to zero with no effect.
Increase the phase stability by 2 powers of ten may be all that is needed?
British Black Ops Agent "Dr. Dan Marckus" to Nick Cook on p. 229 "The Hunt for Zero Point"
Very good finessed phase stability magnetic flux control is needed to get the vacuum-superconductor coherence resonance.
OK this is rough - only half-baked.
What is key is control of the relative phase between Podkletnov's rotating superconductor coherence and the interpenetrating vacuum coherence in the common support. The vacuum is everywhere the superconductor is.
You need to use the gauge-invariant canonical form of the kinetic momentum of the center of mass of a single electron pair in the control rotating superconductor:
2mv = p - (2e/c)A
p = -ihd/dx
for the circulating electron pairs in the rotating superconductor.
So per on-mass shell superconducting pair take the line integral around its circular path of radius r.
The dynamical action of the center of mass of the real electron pair is
Integral of pdx = 2mfpir^2 +( 2e/c) (enclosed magnetic flux)
where f is the frequency of rotation of the superconductor and I use the nonlocal Bohm-Aharonov effect
So the idea is to make a kind of "resonance", i.e. to finesse the magnetic flux so that the dynamical action is stably a small fraction of h in a given region of the fuselage of the Unconventional Flying Object in Paul Hill's sense with "acceleration field" zero g-force propulsion (AKA Bondi negative matter propulsion, Alcubierre geodesic warp drive)
Then we have it! We have the Black Ops 1956 Trimble G-Engine Mission Objective! I mean we are pretty close to getting it! 50 years too late, but better late than never. ;-)
That is, the induced w = -1 zero point exotic vacuum dark energy/matter field is
/\zpf ~ (Quantum of Area)^-1(density of electron pairs)^1/2(density of virtual electron-positron pairs)^1/2(volume of superconductor active region)cosine2pi[(2mfpir^2 + 2e/c(magnetic flux))/2h]
You want the magnetic flux to "point" opposite to the mechanical circulation - like anti-parallel spins i.e. the sense of the mechanical vortex circulation of rotation must be relative to the applied magnetic field such that the two terms subtract to get a very tiny action less than 2h for the single pair.
The idea is that the virtual electron pairs of the vacuum coherence are merely the background "reference" beam for this "vacuum hologram" in a rough analogy, with the rotating superconductor and its enclosed magnetic flux like the scattered beam in the hologram.
The reason one does not see anti-gravity easily is that the damn action is too big compared to 2h so the cosine term fluctuates rapidly averaging to zero with no effect.
Increase the phase stability by 2 powers of ten may be all that is needed?
On May 2, 2004, at 12:33 AM, Danko Georgiev wrote:
Dear Jack,
what puzzled me is that you say Visser does not assume vacuum coherence?!
Do you see where he mentions it?
I will look again. The closest Visser gets is 7 with mention of Higg particles, but I see no mention of
"vacuum coherence"
"phase of vacuum coherence"
"ODLRO" for "Off-Diagonal-Long-Range-Order"
"virtual electron-positron vacuum condensate"
"dark energy"
Why the cosmological constant is what it is because of vacuum coherence.
So I think I am correct.
If
I understand it right then he does not consider any superconductive
properties of the vacuum but then he is wrong!
I don't see that he does unless it's buried in 7. I have not understood the paper in any depth yet.
Because as was noted by Roman
Podolny in his 1983 book the unification of the physical forces is possible
because of ... "the superconductive properties of the vacuum", and also ...
"the physical laws are stored in the vacuum" or an extreme version .. "the
current physics is physics of the vacuum".
Fine, but let's see his math.
How does he derive Einstein's guv field from SC vacuum.
Also the SC is virtual electron-positron pair condensate not a virtual electron-electron condensate. The vacuum SC is not quite the same as an ordinary SC although I think they will beat together in a Josephson interferometer web of weak links where the induced exotic vacuum "acceleration field" propeller is
/\zpf(induced) ~ (Quantum of Area)^-1|Chaio Impedance Match Coupling Coefficient||Density of virtual electron-positiron vacuum condensate|^1/2|Density of real electron pair condensate|^1/2cosine[2pi(Sum over different species of Trapped Flux)/(Flux Quantum)]
Also dark energy was not known in 1983.
I have sent a letter to Mitchell J. Porter about the conceptual breaktrough
that Podolny nicely explains for non-physicists like me, namely everything
is understood in the framework of the Meissner effect and suggesting that
vacuum is superconductive [Bose-Einstein condensate]. Here is part of my
letter to Mitch :
"Everything is very very simple and starts from the possibility the vacuum
to be filled with virtual particles, so called zero point energy
fluctuations. They appear and die soon after their birth, so they cannot be
even registered if there are not the influences these virtual particles upon
the real particles - like the Casimir force, anomalous electron behaviour
because of virtual positron shell, etc.
But this is just the beginning ..
It comes out that everything comes from SUPERCONDUCTIVITY OF THE VACUUM and
ANALOGUE OF THE MEISSNER EFFECT.
Wow!
So what? What's your point? In order for this to be important you have to show how Einstein's theory of gravity connects to this idea of the superconducting vacuum. What is the penetration depth in Podolny's model. It better be ~ c/Ho? What is the coherence length?
Podolny says to imagine a superconductor and external magnetic field. In the
superconductor the magnetic field is zero i.e. as if the magnetic field is
totally reflected, while currents are generated. The electrons form
Bose-condensate at low temperature -- but when the temperature raises the
Bose-condensate is destroyed and the magnetic field "enters" in the
superconductor.
How is this relevant to the vacuum problem?
Now comes the second question: how many forces are in the nature -
electromagnetic, weak, strong forces and gravity. It comes out that weak
forces are too short acting, and what about the strong forces the scenario
is the same.
But what if the virtual particles in the vacuum are Bose-superconductors for
the weak and strong forces. In the vacuum these forces will be zero in
analogy with the magnetic field. If we raise the temperature the
Bose-condensate of the virtual particles in the vacuum is destroyed and the
weak forces enter the vacuum - they become long-range acting. This happens
at temperature 10^16 kelvin, while there is only species of BE condensate
that makes the electromagnetic-weak force to be different from the strong
forces. When the temperature is raised this BE condensate is destroyed too
and at 10^27 kelvin all the forces are the same i.e. act as long-range
forces.
THIS IS PERFECT CONCEPTION! As if I have "opened my eyes" for the reality
around me.
Good for you. But I do not see how this relates at all to the Sakharov idea? And what kind of condensate do you mean? What is your condensate made out of?
What is interesting is that the book is from 1983 and constantly quotes
Andrei Linde and Iakov Zeldovich - researchers in the institute for
superconductivity in USSR [superconductivity <-> vacuum]."
What really impressed me is the simple explanation of the unification of
forces as well as the brief history of the Universe. Of course the Podolny
book is too interesting and full of interesting facts, but for pitty I do
not know any English version or from where it can be purchased. I personally
don't have so much time to translate it for my english friends.
Since I have not read the book I cannot judge what you are saying.
Please quote what they say about Sakharov's idea in that book.
So a comment on your letter - yes you are right, the vacuum is coherent and
it is built from Bose-Einstein condensates, do Visser deny this ???
Danko
As far as I can tell from only skimming he does not address the possibility, unless it is buried in his 7.
Dear Jack,
what puzzled me is that you say Visser does not assume vacuum coherence?!
Do you see where he mentions it?
I will look again. The closest Visser gets is 7 with mention of Higg particles, but I see no mention of
"vacuum coherence"
"phase of vacuum coherence"
"ODLRO" for "Off-Diagonal-Long-Range-Order"
"virtual electron-positron vacuum condensate"
"dark energy"
Why the cosmological constant is what it is because of vacuum coherence.
So I think I am correct.
If
I understand it right then he does not consider any superconductive
properties of the vacuum but then he is wrong!
I don't see that he does unless it's buried in 7. I have not understood the paper in any depth yet.
Because as was noted by Roman
Podolny in his 1983 book the unification of the physical forces is possible
because of ... "the superconductive properties of the vacuum", and also ...
"the physical laws are stored in the vacuum" or an extreme version .. "the
current physics is physics of the vacuum".
Fine, but let's see his math.
How does he derive Einstein's guv field from SC vacuum.
Also the SC is virtual electron-positron pair condensate not a virtual electron-electron condensate. The vacuum SC is not quite the same as an ordinary SC although I think they will beat together in a Josephson interferometer web of weak links where the induced exotic vacuum "acceleration field" propeller is
/\zpf(induced) ~ (Quantum of Area)^-1|Chaio Impedance Match Coupling Coefficient||Density of virtual electron-positiron vacuum condensate|^1/2|Density of real electron pair condensate|^1/2cosine[2pi(Sum over different species of Trapped Flux)/(Flux Quantum)]
Also dark energy was not known in 1983.
I have sent a letter to Mitchell J. Porter about the conceptual breaktrough
that Podolny nicely explains for non-physicists like me, namely everything
is understood in the framework of the Meissner effect and suggesting that
vacuum is superconductive [Bose-Einstein condensate]. Here is part of my
letter to Mitch :
"Everything is very very simple and starts from the possibility the vacuum
to be filled with virtual particles, so called zero point energy
fluctuations. They appear and die soon after their birth, so they cannot be
even registered if there are not the influences these virtual particles upon
the real particles - like the Casimir force, anomalous electron behaviour
because of virtual positron shell, etc.
But this is just the beginning ..
It comes out that everything comes from SUPERCONDUCTIVITY OF THE VACUUM and
ANALOGUE OF THE MEISSNER EFFECT.
Wow!
So what? What's your point? In order for this to be important you have to show how Einstein's theory of gravity connects to this idea of the superconducting vacuum. What is the penetration depth in Podolny's model. It better be ~ c/Ho? What is the coherence length?
Podolny says to imagine a superconductor and external magnetic field. In the
superconductor the magnetic field is zero i.e. as if the magnetic field is
totally reflected, while currents are generated. The electrons form
Bose-condensate at low temperature -- but when the temperature raises the
Bose-condensate is destroyed and the magnetic field "enters" in the
superconductor.
How is this relevant to the vacuum problem?
Now comes the second question: how many forces are in the nature -
electromagnetic, weak, strong forces and gravity. It comes out that weak
forces are too short acting, and what about the strong forces the scenario
is the same.
But what if the virtual particles in the vacuum are Bose-superconductors for
the weak and strong forces. In the vacuum these forces will be zero in
analogy with the magnetic field. If we raise the temperature the
Bose-condensate of the virtual particles in the vacuum is destroyed and the
weak forces enter the vacuum - they become long-range acting. This happens
at temperature 10^16 kelvin, while there is only species of BE condensate
that makes the electromagnetic-weak force to be different from the strong
forces. When the temperature is raised this BE condensate is destroyed too
and at 10^27 kelvin all the forces are the same i.e. act as long-range
forces.
THIS IS PERFECT CONCEPTION! As if I have "opened my eyes" for the reality
around me.
Good for you. But I do not see how this relates at all to the Sakharov idea? And what kind of condensate do you mean? What is your condensate made out of?
What is interesting is that the book is from 1983 and constantly quotes
Andrei Linde and Iakov Zeldovich - researchers in the institute for
superconductivity in USSR [superconductivity <-> vacuum]."
What really impressed me is the simple explanation of the unification of
forces as well as the brief history of the Universe. Of course the Podolny
book is too interesting and full of interesting facts, but for pitty I do
not know any English version or from where it can be purchased. I personally
don't have so much time to translate it for my english friends.
Since I have not read the book I cannot judge what you are saying.
Please quote what they say about Sakharov's idea in that book.
So a comment on your letter - yes you are right, the vacuum is coherent and
it is built from Bose-Einstein condensates, do Visser deny this ???
Danko
As far as I can tell from only skimming he does not address the possibility, unless it is buried in his 7.
On May 2, 2004, at 12:55 AM, Danko Georgiev wrote:
Dear Jack,
you say
"Of course what is missing from Matt Visser's helpful review is the idea of
vacuum coherence which seems to be uniquely original to my theory"
I think that vacuum coherence in sense of BE condensates was already known
in the 1970 - 1980's in USSR (now Russia)
Yes, of course. That is true. But no one has claimed that Einstein's theory of general relativity emerges right out of the phase field of the vacuum coherence with the added bonus of the dark energy/matter from the intensity of the vacuum coherence. The latter is 96% of all the universe. No one has said that other than me.
Also I mean a very specific kind of vacuum coherence from the "Bose-Einstein condensate" of off-mass-shell virtual electron-positron pairs inside the physical vacuum.
and for this speaks the mere fact
that Podolny writes his popular book in 1983! He quotes works of Andrei
Linde, David Abramovich Kirzhnits, Iakov Borisovich Zeldovich, also the
Nobel laureate Sakharov (Nober Prize for peace in 1975, funny, why not for
physics?), and quotes
Abdus Salam who received the Nobel Prize for physics together with Steven
Weinberg and Sheldon Glashow in 1979, and it is explained that the
electroweak theory is based also on the high temperature BE-condesate idea
with the Meissner effect already explained.
Yes, of course. I was at Salam's Institute in Trieste in 1973-4.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/ice9.wav :-)
So many USSR physicists has developped the superconductive properties of
vacuum and indeed David Abramovich Kirzhnits was head of the Sector for
superconductivity in the Physical Institute "P.N. Lebedev".
Why you say that vacuum coherence is original idea of yours?
Danko
Because it is in the precise sense I mean the term "vacuum coherence" it is a PV condensate.
If you can show me that any of the above derive both Einstein's guv field and Einstein's cosmological constant /\ - now generalized as a local zero point energy density field at all scales, from a coherent macro-quantum wave of virtual electron-positron pairs (primarily) then I will retract my statement. Also I claim this is the inflation field of cosmology on the large scale.
Dear Jack,
you say
"Of course what is missing from Matt Visser's helpful review is the idea of
vacuum coherence which seems to be uniquely original to my theory"
I think that vacuum coherence in sense of BE condensates was already known
in the 1970 - 1980's in USSR (now Russia)
Yes, of course. That is true. But no one has claimed that Einstein's theory of general relativity emerges right out of the phase field of the vacuum coherence with the added bonus of the dark energy/matter from the intensity of the vacuum coherence. The latter is 96% of all the universe. No one has said that other than me.
Also I mean a very specific kind of vacuum coherence from the "Bose-Einstein condensate" of off-mass-shell virtual electron-positron pairs inside the physical vacuum.
and for this speaks the mere fact
that Podolny writes his popular book in 1983! He quotes works of Andrei
Linde, David Abramovich Kirzhnits, Iakov Borisovich Zeldovich, also the
Nobel laureate Sakharov (Nober Prize for peace in 1975, funny, why not for
physics?), and quotes
Abdus Salam who received the Nobel Prize for physics together with Steven
Weinberg and Sheldon Glashow in 1979, and it is explained that the
electroweak theory is based also on the high temperature BE-condesate idea
with the Meissner effect already explained.
Yes, of course. I was at Salam's Institute in Trieste in 1973-4.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/ice9.wav :-)
So many USSR physicists has developped the superconductive properties of
vacuum and indeed David Abramovich Kirzhnits was head of the Sector for
superconductivity in the Physical Institute "P.N. Lebedev".
Why you say that vacuum coherence is original idea of yours?
Danko
Because it is in the precise sense I mean the term "vacuum coherence" it is a PV condensate.
If you can show me that any of the above derive both Einstein's guv field and Einstein's cosmological constant /\ - now generalized as a local zero point energy density field at all scales, from a coherent macro-quantum wave of virtual electron-positron pairs (primarily) then I will retract my statement. Also I claim this is the inflation field of cosmology on the large scale.
Of course what is missing from Matt Visser's helpful review is the idea of vacuum coherence which seems to be uniquely original to my theory in the precise way I mean it. It is not in Modanese, not in Volovik, not in Ning Li et-al - definitely not in anything Puthoff, Haisch et-al have written.
When I use "vacuum coherence" I mean a QED BCS type vacuum instability causing the inflation field to form where Einstein's gravity emerges from the coherent Goldstone phase of the inflation field and the unified w = -1 dark energy/matter is controlled by the Higgs intensity of the inflation field.
I have a dynamics for inflation not found in current adhoc models.
What is wrong with Visser's paper is that it impliciltly assumes
vacuum coherence = 0
Visser does not ask the right question.
"The Question is: What is the Question?"
On May 1, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Thanks, I had not seen it. Very useful. :-)
On May 1, 2004, at 8:14 PM, Danko Georgiev wrote:
Dear Jack,
Here I send you a link to a nice paper on "induced gravity"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0204062
Sakharov's induced gravity: a modern perspective
by Matt Visser (Washington University in Saint Louis)
Mod.Phys.Lett. A17 (2002) 977-992
Possibly you are aware of this paper, but if you haven't read it it nicely
present several ways to develop the Sakharov's idea for "emergent" gravity
that needs not micro-quantization.
The author derives important conclusions and compares the 4 ways one can go
after accepting Sakharov's idea that gravity is emergent
1. Sakharov: Demand one-loop dominance.
2. Pauli: Demand one-loop finiteness.
3. Frolov-Fursaev: Demand one-loop calculability.
4. Renormalizability: Demand one-loop calculability for certain differences.
You should read the paper but what impressed me is that one of the
interesting approaches suggested by Frolov & Fursaev was systematically used
by them to model black holes and the associated phenomena. So the original
Sakharov's idea is possibly viable alternative to micro-quantum gravity as
you call it.
p.s. My recent interest in the theory of vacuum was after reading the
original book of Roman Podolny written in 1983 called "Something called
Nothing". For pitty I don't know from where this book can be obtained in
English [I will need 4-5 months spent to translate it].
Currently I am interested also in the superconductive properties of the
vacuum and download from arXiv papers from Andrei Linde, and also I will try
to find something of Iakov Zeldovich who worked on the theory of vacuum.
Here is list with papers from Frolov & Fursaev. I hope you can find
something interesting in the papers whose links I send you.
Best,
Danko
------------
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Statistical mechanics on axially-symmetric spacetimes with the Killing
horizon and entropy of rotating black holes in induced gravity
Phys. Rev. D 61 (2000) 024007
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9907046
V. Frolov and D. Fursaev
Black hole entropy in induced gravity: Reduction to 2D quantum field theory
on the horizon
Phys. Rev. D 58 (1998) 124009
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9806078
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Thermal fields, entropy, and black holes
Class. Quant. Grav. 15, 2041 (1998)
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9802010
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Plenty of nothing: Black hole entropy in induced gravity
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9705207
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Mechanism of generation of black hole entropy in Sakharov's induced gravity
Phys. Rev. D 56 (1997) 2212
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9703178
V. P. Frolov, D. V. Fursaev and A. I. Zelnikov
Statistical origin of black hole entropy in induced gravity
Nucl. Phys. B 486 (1997) 339
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9607104
12. V. Frolov, D. Fursaev, J. Gegenberg and G. Kunstatter
Thermodynamics and statistical mechanics of induced Liouville gravity
Phys. Rev. D 60 (1999) 024016
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9901087
13. V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Statistical mechanics of charged black holes in induced Einstein-Maxwell
gravity
Phys. Rev. D 61 (2000) 064010
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9910006
When I use "vacuum coherence" I mean a QED BCS type vacuum instability causing the inflation field to form where Einstein's gravity emerges from the coherent Goldstone phase of the inflation field and the unified w = -1 dark energy/matter is controlled by the Higgs intensity of the inflation field.
I have a dynamics for inflation not found in current adhoc models.
What is wrong with Visser's paper is that it impliciltly assumes
vacuum coherence = 0
Visser does not ask the right question.
"The Question is: What is the Question?"
On May 1, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Thanks, I had not seen it. Very useful. :-)
On May 1, 2004, at 8:14 PM, Danko Georgiev wrote:
Dear Jack,
Here I send you a link to a nice paper on "induced gravity"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0204062
Sakharov's induced gravity: a modern perspective
by Matt Visser (Washington University in Saint Louis)
Mod.Phys.Lett. A17 (2002) 977-992
Possibly you are aware of this paper, but if you haven't read it it nicely
present several ways to develop the Sakharov's idea for "emergent" gravity
that needs not micro-quantization.
The author derives important conclusions and compares the 4 ways one can go
after accepting Sakharov's idea that gravity is emergent
1. Sakharov: Demand one-loop dominance.
2. Pauli: Demand one-loop finiteness.
3. Frolov-Fursaev: Demand one-loop calculability.
4. Renormalizability: Demand one-loop calculability for certain differences.
You should read the paper but what impressed me is that one of the
interesting approaches suggested by Frolov & Fursaev was systematically used
by them to model black holes and the associated phenomena. So the original
Sakharov's idea is possibly viable alternative to micro-quantum gravity as
you call it.
p.s. My recent interest in the theory of vacuum was after reading the
original book of Roman Podolny written in 1983 called "Something called
Nothing". For pitty I don't know from where this book can be obtained in
English [I will need 4-5 months spent to translate it].
Currently I am interested also in the superconductive properties of the
vacuum and download from arXiv papers from Andrei Linde, and also I will try
to find something of Iakov Zeldovich who worked on the theory of vacuum.
Here is list with papers from Frolov & Fursaev. I hope you can find
something interesting in the papers whose links I send you.
Best,
Danko
------------
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Statistical mechanics on axially-symmetric spacetimes with the Killing
horizon and entropy of rotating black holes in induced gravity
Phys. Rev. D 61 (2000) 024007
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9907046
V. Frolov and D. Fursaev
Black hole entropy in induced gravity: Reduction to 2D quantum field theory
on the horizon
Phys. Rev. D 58 (1998) 124009
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9806078
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Thermal fields, entropy, and black holes
Class. Quant. Grav. 15, 2041 (1998)
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9802010
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Plenty of nothing: Black hole entropy in induced gravity
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9705207
V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Mechanism of generation of black hole entropy in Sakharov's induced gravity
Phys. Rev. D 56 (1997) 2212
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9703178
V. P. Frolov, D. V. Fursaev and A. I. Zelnikov
Statistical origin of black hole entropy in induced gravity
Nucl. Phys. B 486 (1997) 339
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9607104
12. V. Frolov, D. Fursaev, J. Gegenberg and G. Kunstatter
Thermodynamics and statistical mechanics of induced Liouville gravity
Phys. Rev. D 60 (1999) 024016
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9901087
13. V. P. Frolov and D. V. Fursaev
Statistical mechanics of charged black holes in induced Einstein-Maxwell
gravity
Phys. Rev. D 61 (2000) 064010
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9910006
From the New Committees of Correspondence
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h675.html
Heads Up from Uri Geller on 11-11-04.
On May 1, 2004, at 2:48 AM, Colin Bennett wrote:

Annie Lala, Colin Bennett, Jack Sarfatti, Philamena Bennett, Simon Daniel, Uri Geller, Grant Stapleton at dinner in London at Simon Daniel's on "The Ideas of March" where at end of the evening Uri suddenly, as in a momentary channel trance, looks at me and announces "Be aware of the number 11-11 in the coming year." photo by Schippi Strang.
Incident # 1. Last night discussing the strange coincidences of the past few weeks with UFO investigator Kim Burrafato including the story from Iran - Kim suddenly interrupted me turned his clock around and the digital read-out said "11-11." I said to Kim "Why did you do that"" He replied "I don't know. I suddenly felt it was significant." I had not told the Uri Geller "11-11" story to Kim previously. Indeed, I don't think I have mentioned it on e-mail at all? Please correct me if I am wrong there?
Incident #2. This morning upon awakening thinking of the unwieldy 500 pages of current form of "Super Cosmos" and what I have to cut out of it, I thought of Alan Cohen, the Beat Artist of San Francisco Oracle in 1968 whose collage of me is in my book "Destiny Matrix." I had not thought of Cohen for maybe a year and considered putting his collage in full color as the cover for Super Cosmos.
About an hour later David Gladstone telephones me to tell me that Alan died in past few hours. He was terminally ill, but was not a close friend prominent in my stream of consciousness - that self-organizing IT <-> BIT "landscape" piloting our brain events measured by Karl Pribram whose Thom/Arnold catastrophes mark the passage of self-conscious experiences.
Heads Up from Uri Geller on 11-11-04.
Message from Colin Bennett:
Hi Jack,
My, you are a busy man, sir! Thank you for sending me
the setting for the Hal Puthoff section. I think your book is going to
be a sensation. The argument is clear, but the math is beyond
me at the moment! As an Eng.Lit person, I am up to Fourier Analysis
and partial differentials, but the private tutor I have hired says it is
going to be a long time before I get to Tensor Calculus and Riemann
geometry! To this end, I am reading Penrose, The Emperor’ New Clothes.
Concerning my review of Cook’s book, I have had some
scores of e-mails enquiring about this. It appears that this period and these themes still hold endless fascination for many people. I have attached here a footnote to my review which may be of interest as historical background to many people who have written to me. By the way, there are two books in the American Physics Society reprint series I mentioned that you might be interested in. They are Quantum Physics in America: the Years Through 1935 by Katherine R. Sopka, The Conceptual Development of Quantum Mechanics by Max Jammer, and the rare The Theory of Heat Radiation by Max Planck.
I read Jammer years ago. It's good. He has 2 books BTW.
But first I would like to thank Saul-Paul for pointing out some mistakes
in my text.
...
Yes. Will the University of Chicago ever forgive me for this? “Goudschmidt” should also be corrected to “Goudsmit,” although don’t ask me where he lost the German consonants. Though he became later an American citizen, Goudsmit came from the pre-1914 Dutch middle-class, and I have an idea that they were very sensitive to common German name-endings!
....
Yes. But there appears to be some confusion about the CIA and the previous Central Intelligence Group, a short-lived temporary structure designed to try and unify the dog’s breakfast that had appeared after Truman quickly dissolved the OSS. I quote from The CIA's Greatest Hits by Mark Zepezauer, where the author appears to be referring to the CIG structure, and not the CIA.
“One of the most important of all CIA operations began before the agency was even born. Many Nazi leaders realized they were going to lose World War II and started negotiating with the US behind Hitler's back about a possible future war against the USSR. In 1943, future CIA Director Allen Dulles moved to Bern, Switzerland to begin back-channel talks with these influential Nazis. Officially, Dulles was an agent of the OSS (the Overseas Secret Service, the CIA's predecessor) but he wasn't above pursuing his own agenda with the Nazis, many of whom he had worked with before the war. Indeed, as a prominent Wall Street lawyer, Dulles had a number of clients - Standard Oil, for one - who continued doing business with the Nazis during the war.
Both Dulles brothers were close to the maternal grandfather, Henry De Forest, of one of my past significant others as described in my autobiography "Destiny Matrix." See "Edie" by Jean Stein and the late George Plimpton. The other paternal grandfather, Henry Dwight Sedgwick, anticipated the post-quantum physics of "presponse" while at Harvard in 1908 in his "House of Sorrow." Sedgwick's brother was The Atlantic's Ellery Sedgwick. Both were members of the Porcellian Club like Skull and Bones at Yale whose first president was Timothy Dwight - all related apparently to ex-DCI James Woolsey.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nnnotables/ztdw.html
Henry Dwight Sedgwick's son Francis worked briefly for the German interests in the 1920's but could not take the stress. See also the story of Ernst "Putzi" Sedgwick Hanfstaengl
http://www.qedcorp.com/pcr/pcr/si04.html
See also
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2405
"General Gehlen was whisked to Fort Hunt, Virginia, where he soon succeeded in convincing his captors that the Soviet Union was about to attack the West. The US Army and Gehlen arrived at a "gentlemen's agreement." The “gentlemen’s agreement” here refers to the agreement with U.S. General Sibert, who “managed” Gehlen whilst he was in the USA. Cookridge in his book Gehlen gives a good account of these early post-war days, as do Hohne and Zolling
in The General Was a Spy. By the way, in all these books the suggested names for the MJ-12 group occur regularly. A personal note about Bedell-Smith. Whilst I was at Oxford University in the
late 1960s, I had many memorable conversations with Brigadier Bill Williams, who was General Montgomery’s Chief Intelligence Officer during the War. I remember he told me that Bedell-Smith had a quite remarkable brain, and his work was vital to the organization of the entire D-Day organization. He had also unlimited praise for Eisenhower, but that is another matter! Thank you again Saul-Paul. Here is the historical postcript to my review of The Hunt For Zero Point:
We are always asking questions about Hitler, and it is quite right that we should do so. Theoretically, he should be almost forgotten, like the Kaiser. But something very strange and quite unique happened in Germany between 1933 and 1945. The celebrated books of the great conventional historians (Bullock Trevor-Roper, Taylor) are essentially descriptive and see Nazism as a wider and more terrible manifestation of what to them was nevertheless a good old-fashioned nationalist endeavour. In this sense the Kaiser’s war indeed does fit the classical equations of the traditional historical view. What happened between 1914 and 1918 can be somewhat rationalized in terms of that conventional socio-economic/ego-imperialistic military chauvinism manifested by Napoleon, the battles of the British Empire, and the Franco-Prussian war of 1870. As a piece of history, the Great War (as it was called then) of 1914-1918 was a recognizable piece of the late 19th century. Though today in
a very different world, we reject Marx, there is no doubt that Marxist
equations do describe quite adequately the historical forces of the 19th century, beginning with the French Revolution through the nineteenth century up to the Russian Revolution of 1917. But using the analogy of the inadequate state of 19th century physics before
the Curies and Einstein, the problems of understanding Nazism are just as different, equally formidable and equally terrifying. Just as a new world picture was needed for Relativity, we need a new world picture to understand Nazism. And sadly, we do not have one.
Nazism was not a manifestation that stemmed from traditional forces. It was essentially an occult philosophy that stemmed from mystical ideas about racial and national identity (Wagner, Nietzsche, et al). Intellectually, the Nazi mind was married to that quite respectable philosophy of eugenics which had considerable influence in academic circles since Francis Galton coined the word (see the recently published War Against the Weak ) The fundamental problem with Nazism begins when we realize and accept that the great liberal secular tradition which (for sake of argument) began with Rousseau and Tom Paine) does not accept occult philosophy. This tradition of science, democracy, the scholastic tradition of “objective” factual analysis within essentially a republican social and political framework is now firmly established in the great universities and schools of the Western world. This great humanitarian tradition tried the Nazi leaders at Nuremberg in 1945 as it would try common horse-thieves. This was because Nazism was quite beyond the cognitive lens of traditional minds of even such cross-examining barristers as the brilliant Hartley Shawcross. Legal definitions and traditional moral terms were not adequate, because what the Nazis did was quite beyond all rational, moral, and certainly legal conceptions of both science and democracy.
I had a letter asking how Hitler could "read" of events since he avoided certain death many times.. Well to my mind the answers can be given only if we reconstruct for a moment a holistic world model in which elements of personality are not finite, but
extend into animal, mineral and vegetable realms that spread through the whole entire material realm. Very few these days accept such a model. If it enters universities at all, it is as a descriptive entity and not an operational one. The Renaissance world picture is perhaps the last collective example of this view in Western culture before the objective techniques of physical science became the next “successful” culture in line. The Elizabethan culture was equally successful; witness Shakespeare and the growth of European culture from that time. Sixth century Athens and second
century Alexandria were equally “successful,” (as was Byzantine society) but modern science is rather wary of pre-scientific cultures that were as “successful” as it. To my mind, the much-abused New Age movements are often tragic attempts to try and rediscover this rejected model if only in order to try and understand what evil movements such as Nazism are made of. They all try (often commendably) to re-capture lost transcendental elements of personality that belong to a deeper history and are not subject
to clock-time, a fairly crude mechanism which is a new and rather callow arrival on the historical stage. We must understand what Jung meant by his concept of participation mystique. I expanded on this in some detail in a post to M. Martinez some two weeks ago, but there were some strange loops going on in these threads and postings at this time, and it may have got lost. For those interested, it is appearing in Combat Diary 19, available sometime in the first week of May.
Here is a modern restatement of the basic Shakespearian synthesis:
(1) Mind and Nature are one entity. Our thought processes reach out through the natural realm. The concept of "action at a distance" is unecessary. Information is transmitted simultaneously through massively expanded states of being, not by means of distances and velocities.
As in Rupert Sheldrake's data and the CIA SRI RV data of Puthoff & Targ as well as similar NKVD/KGB allegations written down by Constantin Ivanenko from Saint Petersburg, Russia today.
(2) Aspects of personality survive death to reappear in a myriad of forms.
(3) We are uniquely responsible for our actions.
(4) There is possible a dialogue between Mind and Nature
(5) Animal forms of the most detestable kind can readily invade and take over human beings.
We saw that in Robespierre, http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/robespierre.html Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden et-al
Let us forget the intimidating words “witchcraft” and “occultism” for a
moment, and see Hitler in Shakespeare’s terms. In other words to “find” Hitler we must go back to Iago of Othello, Goneril and Regan of King Lear, and above all Lady Macbeth. They could all “read” beyond themselves, for better or for worse.
I will conclude with a story told by Albert Speer, Hitler’s armaments
Minister. At sometime during the last year of the War, when it was obvious that all was lost, Speer said that he decided to kill Hitler. He said that he intended to drop poison gas into an air-intake filter for the Fuehrer bunker that stood accessible in a nearby small park. A few days later, on entering the park, he saw that the intake chimney had been extended by workman to an inaccessible height! He stood transfixed with fear, expecting a gun in his back at any moment, for was utterly convinced that Hitler had read his thoughts, and this was his little joke before Speer himself died in a most unpleasant fashion. On checking, Speer found that the order for the chimney
extension work (a miniscule event in the Fuehrer’s day!) had been carried out on Hitler’s direct orders, so why was he, Speer, still alive and not accused? Summoned to an audience, Hitler made no sign that he had read Speer’s intentions. Speer concluded that he had, but unconsciously.
Perhaps we should conclude that like Lady Macbeth, Hitler was not so much a man, more a realm of Nature.
http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html
(written ~ 1978-79)
That way we might more idea of the structure of that “action at a distance” which Einstein described as “spooky.”
Keep smiling!
Colin
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h675.html
Heads Up from Uri Geller on 11-11-04.
On May 1, 2004, at 2:48 AM, Colin Bennett wrote:

Annie Lala, Colin Bennett, Jack Sarfatti, Philamena Bennett, Simon Daniel, Uri Geller, Grant Stapleton at dinner in London at Simon Daniel's on "The Ideas of March" where at end of the evening Uri suddenly, as in a momentary channel trance, looks at me and announces "Be aware of the number 11-11 in the coming year." photo by Schippi Strang.
Incident # 1. Last night discussing the strange coincidences of the past few weeks with UFO investigator Kim Burrafato including the story from Iran - Kim suddenly interrupted me turned his clock around and the digital read-out said "11-11." I said to Kim "Why did you do that"" He replied "I don't know. I suddenly felt it was significant." I had not told the Uri Geller "11-11" story to Kim previously. Indeed, I don't think I have mentioned it on e-mail at all? Please correct me if I am wrong there?
Incident #2. This morning upon awakening thinking of the unwieldy 500 pages of current form of "Super Cosmos" and what I have to cut out of it, I thought of Alan Cohen, the Beat Artist of San Francisco Oracle in 1968 whose collage of me is in my book "Destiny Matrix." I had not thought of Cohen for maybe a year and considered putting his collage in full color as the cover for Super Cosmos.
About an hour later David Gladstone telephones me to tell me that Alan died in past few hours. He was terminally ill, but was not a close friend prominent in my stream of consciousness - that self-organizing IT <-> BIT "landscape" piloting our brain events measured by Karl Pribram whose Thom/Arnold catastrophes mark the passage of self-conscious experiences.
Heads Up from Uri Geller on 11-11-04.
Message from Colin Bennett:
Hi Jack,
My, you are a busy man, sir! Thank you for sending me
the setting for the Hal Puthoff section. I think your book is going to
be a sensation. The argument is clear, but the math is beyond
me at the moment! As an Eng.Lit person, I am up to Fourier Analysis
and partial differentials, but the private tutor I have hired says it is
going to be a long time before I get to Tensor Calculus and Riemann
geometry! To this end, I am reading Penrose, The Emperor’ New Clothes.
Concerning my review of Cook’s book, I have had some
scores of e-mails enquiring about this. It appears that this period and these themes still hold endless fascination for many people. I have attached here a footnote to my review which may be of interest as historical background to many people who have written to me. By the way, there are two books in the American Physics Society reprint series I mentioned that you might be interested in. They are Quantum Physics in America: the Years Through 1935 by Katherine R. Sopka, The Conceptual Development of Quantum Mechanics by Max Jammer, and the rare The Theory of Heat Radiation by Max Planck.
I read Jammer years ago. It's good. He has 2 books BTW.
But first I would like to thank Saul-Paul for pointing out some mistakes
in my text.
...
Yes. Will the University of Chicago ever forgive me for this? “Goudschmidt” should also be corrected to “Goudsmit,” although don’t ask me where he lost the German consonants. Though he became later an American citizen, Goudsmit came from the pre-1914 Dutch middle-class, and I have an idea that they were very sensitive to common German name-endings!
....
Yes. But there appears to be some confusion about the CIA and the previous Central Intelligence Group, a short-lived temporary structure designed to try and unify the dog’s breakfast that had appeared after Truman quickly dissolved the OSS. I quote from The CIA's Greatest Hits by Mark Zepezauer, where the author appears to be referring to the CIG structure, and not the CIA.
“One of the most important of all CIA operations began before the agency was even born. Many Nazi leaders realized they were going to lose World War II and started negotiating with the US behind Hitler's back about a possible future war against the USSR. In 1943, future CIA Director Allen Dulles moved to Bern, Switzerland to begin back-channel talks with these influential Nazis. Officially, Dulles was an agent of the OSS (the Overseas Secret Service, the CIA's predecessor) but he wasn't above pursuing his own agenda with the Nazis, many of whom he had worked with before the war. Indeed, as a prominent Wall Street lawyer, Dulles had a number of clients - Standard Oil, for one - who continued doing business with the Nazis during the war.
Both Dulles brothers were close to the maternal grandfather, Henry De Forest, of one of my past significant others as described in my autobiography "Destiny Matrix." See "Edie" by Jean Stein and the late George Plimpton. The other paternal grandfather, Henry Dwight Sedgwick, anticipated the post-quantum physics of "presponse" while at Harvard in 1908 in his "House of Sorrow." Sedgwick's brother was The Atlantic's Ellery Sedgwick. Both were members of the Porcellian Club like Skull and Bones at Yale whose first president was Timothy Dwight - all related apparently to ex-DCI James Woolsey.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nnnotables/ztdw.html
Henry Dwight Sedgwick's son Francis worked briefly for the German interests in the 1920's but could not take the stress. See also the story of Ernst "Putzi" Sedgwick Hanfstaengl
http://www.qedcorp.com/pcr/pcr/si04.html
See also
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2405
"General Gehlen was whisked to Fort Hunt, Virginia, where he soon succeeded in convincing his captors that the Soviet Union was about to attack the West. The US Army and Gehlen arrived at a "gentlemen's agreement." The “gentlemen’s agreement” here refers to the agreement with U.S. General Sibert, who “managed” Gehlen whilst he was in the USA. Cookridge in his book Gehlen gives a good account of these early post-war days, as do Hohne and Zolling
in The General Was a Spy. By the way, in all these books the suggested names for the MJ-12 group occur regularly. A personal note about Bedell-Smith. Whilst I was at Oxford University in the
late 1960s, I had many memorable conversations with Brigadier Bill Williams, who was General Montgomery’s Chief Intelligence Officer during the War. I remember he told me that Bedell-Smith had a quite remarkable brain, and his work was vital to the organization of the entire D-Day organization. He had also unlimited praise for Eisenhower, but that is another matter! Thank you again Saul-Paul. Here is the historical postcript to my review of The Hunt For Zero Point:
We are always asking questions about Hitler, and it is quite right that we should do so. Theoretically, he should be almost forgotten, like the Kaiser. But something very strange and quite unique happened in Germany between 1933 and 1945. The celebrated books of the great conventional historians (Bullock Trevor-Roper, Taylor) are essentially descriptive and see Nazism as a wider and more terrible manifestation of what to them was nevertheless a good old-fashioned nationalist endeavour. In this sense the Kaiser’s war indeed does fit the classical equations of the traditional historical view. What happened between 1914 and 1918 can be somewhat rationalized in terms of that conventional socio-economic/ego-imperialistic military chauvinism manifested by Napoleon, the battles of the British Empire, and the Franco-Prussian war of 1870. As a piece of history, the Great War (as it was called then) of 1914-1918 was a recognizable piece of the late 19th century. Though today in
a very different world, we reject Marx, there is no doubt that Marxist
equations do describe quite adequately the historical forces of the 19th century, beginning with the French Revolution through the nineteenth century up to the Russian Revolution of 1917. But using the analogy of the inadequate state of 19th century physics before
the Curies and Einstein, the problems of understanding Nazism are just as different, equally formidable and equally terrifying. Just as a new world picture was needed for Relativity, we need a new world picture to understand Nazism. And sadly, we do not have one.
Nazism was not a manifestation that stemmed from traditional forces. It was essentially an occult philosophy that stemmed from mystical ideas about racial and national identity (Wagner, Nietzsche, et al). Intellectually, the Nazi mind was married to that quite respectable philosophy of eugenics which had considerable influence in academic circles since Francis Galton coined the word (see the recently published War Against the Weak ) The fundamental problem with Nazism begins when we realize and accept that the great liberal secular tradition which (for sake of argument) began with Rousseau and Tom Paine) does not accept occult philosophy. This tradition of science, democracy, the scholastic tradition of “objective” factual analysis within essentially a republican social and political framework is now firmly established in the great universities and schools of the Western world. This great humanitarian tradition tried the Nazi leaders at Nuremberg in 1945 as it would try common horse-thieves. This was because Nazism was quite beyond the cognitive lens of traditional minds of even such cross-examining barristers as the brilliant Hartley Shawcross. Legal definitions and traditional moral terms were not adequate, because what the Nazis did was quite beyond all rational, moral, and certainly legal conceptions of both science and democracy.
I had a letter asking how Hitler could "read" of events since he avoided certain death many times.. Well to my mind the answers can be given only if we reconstruct for a moment a holistic world model in which elements of personality are not finite, but
extend into animal, mineral and vegetable realms that spread through the whole entire material realm. Very few these days accept such a model. If it enters universities at all, it is as a descriptive entity and not an operational one. The Renaissance world picture is perhaps the last collective example of this view in Western culture before the objective techniques of physical science became the next “successful” culture in line. The Elizabethan culture was equally successful; witness Shakespeare and the growth of European culture from that time. Sixth century Athens and second
century Alexandria were equally “successful,” (as was Byzantine society) but modern science is rather wary of pre-scientific cultures that were as “successful” as it. To my mind, the much-abused New Age movements are often tragic attempts to try and rediscover this rejected model if only in order to try and understand what evil movements such as Nazism are made of. They all try (often commendably) to re-capture lost transcendental elements of personality that belong to a deeper history and are not subject
to clock-time, a fairly crude mechanism which is a new and rather callow arrival on the historical stage. We must understand what Jung meant by his concept of participation mystique. I expanded on this in some detail in a post to M. Martinez some two weeks ago, but there were some strange loops going on in these threads and postings at this time, and it may have got lost. For those interested, it is appearing in Combat Diary 19, available sometime in the first week of May.
Here is a modern restatement of the basic Shakespearian synthesis:
(1) Mind and Nature are one entity. Our thought processes reach out through the natural realm. The concept of "action at a distance" is unecessary. Information is transmitted simultaneously through massively expanded states of being, not by means of distances and velocities.
As in Rupert Sheldrake's data and the CIA SRI RV data of Puthoff & Targ as well as similar NKVD/KGB allegations written down by Constantin Ivanenko from Saint Petersburg, Russia today.
(2) Aspects of personality survive death to reappear in a myriad of forms.
(3) We are uniquely responsible for our actions.
(4) There is possible a dialogue between Mind and Nature
(5) Animal forms of the most detestable kind can readily invade and take over human beings.
We saw that in Robespierre, http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/robespierre.html Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden et-al
Let us forget the intimidating words “witchcraft” and “occultism” for a
moment, and see Hitler in Shakespeare’s terms. In other words to “find” Hitler we must go back to Iago of Othello, Goneril and Regan of King Lear, and above all Lady Macbeth. They could all “read” beyond themselves, for better or for worse.
I will conclude with a story told by Albert Speer, Hitler’s armaments
Minister. At sometime during the last year of the War, when it was obvious that all was lost, Speer said that he decided to kill Hitler. He said that he intended to drop poison gas into an air-intake filter for the Fuehrer bunker that stood accessible in a nearby small park. A few days later, on entering the park, he saw that the intake chimney had been extended by workman to an inaccessible height! He stood transfixed with fear, expecting a gun in his back at any moment, for was utterly convinced that Hitler had read his thoughts, and this was his little joke before Speer himself died in a most unpleasant fashion. On checking, Speer found that the order for the chimney
extension work (a miniscule event in the Fuehrer’s day!) had been carried out on Hitler’s direct orders, so why was he, Speer, still alive and not accused? Summoned to an audience, Hitler made no sign that he had read Speer’s intentions. Speer concluded that he had, but unconsciously.
Perhaps we should conclude that like Lady Macbeth, Hitler was not so much a man, more a realm of Nature.
http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html
(written ~ 1978-79)
That way we might more idea of the structure of that “action at a distance” which Einstein described as “spooky.”
Keep smiling!
Colin
Friday, April 30, 2004
Ning Wu's theory from Peking/Beijing does have some common ground with my own theory. He or she? Locally gauges the translation group to get the tetrad fields of GR that are like spin 1 fields, prior to going to spin 2 "strain tensor" where the tetrad compensating fields are world crystal distortion field. The tetrad fields ensure the local equivalence principle that Hal Puthoff in PV essentially violates.
Wu basically does Modanese's theory for superconductor coherence coupling to gravity, but does not realize that the spin 1 tetrad compensating fields themselves emerge from the phase of the vacuum coherence.
That is none of these NASA BPP theorists and their competition in Beijing, Teheran etc have my idea, which is unique.
That is they start with GR + SC theory and couple them. That's what Modanese did. The SC coherence contributes to what I call the /\zpfguv term in Einstein's field equation, which in the exotic vacuum weak field limit approaches the Newtonian Poisson equation
Grad^2V(exotic vacuum) ~ c^2/\zpf
V(exotic vacuum) = Newtonian gravity potential energy per unit test particle of the zero point exotic vacuum dark energy/matter density, which is
tuv(ZPF) ~ (String Tension)/\zpfguv
(String Tension) = hc/(Quantum of Area)
None of them understand that GR is emergent from a vacuum coherence field, which can then beat against the (SC) superconductor coherence field (i.e. Josephson interferometer weak link) to get energy efficient soft metric engineering tailoring the fabric of spacetime to make the saucers fly rings around any conventional jet fighter.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Tim Ventura wrote:
New paper -- this suggests that transition into SC state causes superconductive gravity shielding, not the actual state itself.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ventura [mailto:tventura6@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:10 AM
To: Marc G. Millis; Marc G. Millis
Subject: Ning Wu Gravitational Shielding Paper
Here's an interesting paper on gravitational shielding effects from China -- it was posted on the arxiv.org website.
I guess that the prediction in it is that any substance capable of a superfluid state may be able to shield gravity -- this would include superconductors, although from what Dr. Wu writes it would only occur during the transition state ..(?)
Thanks;
Tim Ventura
Wu basically does Modanese's theory for superconductor coherence coupling to gravity, but does not realize that the spin 1 tetrad compensating fields themselves emerge from the phase of the vacuum coherence.
That is none of these NASA BPP theorists and their competition in Beijing, Teheran etc have my idea, which is unique.
That is they start with GR + SC theory and couple them. That's what Modanese did. The SC coherence contributes to what I call the /\zpfguv term in Einstein's field equation, which in the exotic vacuum weak field limit approaches the Newtonian Poisson equation
Grad^2V(exotic vacuum) ~ c^2/\zpf
V(exotic vacuum) = Newtonian gravity potential energy per unit test particle of the zero point exotic vacuum dark energy/matter density, which is
tuv(ZPF) ~ (String Tension)/\zpfguv
(String Tension) = hc/(Quantum of Area)
None of them understand that GR is emergent from a vacuum coherence field, which can then beat against the (SC) superconductor coherence field (i.e. Josephson interferometer weak link) to get energy efficient soft metric engineering tailoring the fabric of spacetime to make the saucers fly rings around any conventional jet fighter.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Tim Ventura wrote:
New paper -- this suggests that transition into SC state causes superconductive gravity shielding, not the actual state itself.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ventura [mailto:tventura6@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:10 AM
To: Marc G. Millis; Marc G. Millis
Subject: Ning Wu Gravitational Shielding Paper
Here's an interesting paper on gravitational shielding effects from China -- it was posted on the arxiv.org website.
I guess that the prediction in it is that any substance capable of a superfluid state may be able to shield gravity -- this would include superconductors, although from what Dr. Wu writes it would only occur during the transition state ..(?)
Thanks;
Tim Ventura
Thanks, that is same volume that my paper is being published in.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/Nova.pdf
This work is directly relevant to "The Hunt for Zero Point" advanced propulsion-exotic energy technology of metric engineering the fabric of space-time using macro-quantum control. In my Bohmian theory I derive Einstein's gravity with the dark energy/matter zero point vacuum fluctuation energy local field as bottom- > up "More is different" emergents collective true vacuum modes out of a QED false vacuum instability. There is a "Bohm quantum potential" version of the true vacuum coherence whose phase variations give the curvature of the smooth space-time fabric. This is not the same as trying to quantize Einstein's gravity, which may be a wrong thing to try. Quantizing gravity is like trying to quantize the top -> down phenomenological elastic theory of crystals with the Young moduli etc.. That is not the same as using a "many body problem" bottom -> up micro-quantum Hamiltonian theory of elementary excitation quasi-particle "phonon" crystal vibrations that are excited states above the many-atom ground state.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
"We shall show that it is possible to understand the key character of de-Broglie--Bohm theory, the quantum potential, as the conformal degree of freedom of the space--time metric. In this way, gravity should give the causal structure of the space--time, while quantum phenomena determines the scale"
Understanding Quantum Theory in Terms of Geometry
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0404102
Authors: Fatimah Shojai, Ali Shojai
Comments: 88 Pages, 6 figures. To appear in Progress in Quantum Physics Research, Nova Science Publishers, Inc., 2004
Report-no: IPM/P2004-015
Understanding quantum theory in terms of a geometric picture sounds great. There are different approaches to this idea. Here we shall present a geometric picture of quantum theory using the de-Broglie--Bohm causal interpretation of quantum mechanics. We shall show that it is possible to understand the key character of de-Broglie--Bohm theory, the quantum potential, as the conformal degree of freedom of the space--time metric. In this way, gravity should give the causal structure of the space--time, while quantum phenomena determines the scale. Some toy models in terms of tensor and scalar--tensor theories will be presented. Then a few essential physical aspects of the idea including the effect on the black holes, the initial Big--Bang singularity and non locality are investigated. We shall formulate a quantum equivalence principle according to which gravitational effects can be removed by going to a freely falling frame while quantum effects can be eliminated by choosing an appropriate scale. And we shall see that the best framework for both quantum and gravity is Weyl geometry. Then we shall show how one can get the de-Broglie--Bohm quantum theory out of a Weyl covariant theory. Extension to the case of many particle systems and spinning particles is discussed at the end.
Gary S. Bekkum
garysbekkum@hotmail.com
If they can do the many-spinning particles problem with nonlocal entanglement that is a major advance. Hal Puthoff cannot even solve the problem of one spinning particle in his PV model of the metric engineering of the spacetime fabric to make Unconventional Flying Objects. Hmmn so they are now seeing UFOs over Teheran. What a coincidence! ;-)
On Apr 30, 2004, at 1:53 AM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
Hi Jack!
You should have pointed out that some Iranian scientists may be on the edge
of the hidden variable Bohmian mechanics with quantum gravity, etc.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/3671271.stm
Iran starstruck by UFO phenomenon
UFO fever is gripping Iran after dozens of Unidentified Flying Object
sightings in the last few days.
State television has shown pictures of a sparkling white disc which it says
was filmed over Tehran on Tuesday.
Other UFOs have been spotted in several northern and north-western cities
moving quickly through the atmosphere emitting brightly coloured rays.
Scientists say the sightings are a result of natural phenomena, but many
people say they are spy planes.
A reporter for the Irna state news agency observed a UFO last week for 90
minutes in the northern city of Bilesavar and was able to film it, according
to a report in the newspaper Hambastegi.
The UFO was spherical and had two arms, the paper said.
'Not experts'
But Sadollah Nasiri-Qeydari, head of Iran's Astronomical Society, has
dismissed the possibility that Iran may be being buzzed by alien craft.
"The people who have seen these things are not experts - farmers, villagers
and pilots," he said.
He said the sightings were consistent with the planet Venus in its current
position.
Its intense light would be given different hues by being filtered through
the atmosphere, he said.
Military and civilian radar services have not registered any violations of
the Islamic republic's air space, Russian news agency RIA reported.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/3671271.stm
http://qedcorp.com/APS/Nova.pdf
This work is directly relevant to "The Hunt for Zero Point" advanced propulsion-exotic energy technology of metric engineering the fabric of space-time using macro-quantum control. In my Bohmian theory I derive Einstein's gravity with the dark energy/matter zero point vacuum fluctuation energy local field as bottom- > up "More is different" emergents collective true vacuum modes out of a QED false vacuum instability. There is a "Bohm quantum potential" version of the true vacuum coherence whose phase variations give the curvature of the smooth space-time fabric. This is not the same as trying to quantize Einstein's gravity, which may be a wrong thing to try. Quantizing gravity is like trying to quantize the top -> down phenomenological elastic theory of crystals with the Young moduli etc.. That is not the same as using a "many body problem" bottom -> up micro-quantum Hamiltonian theory of elementary excitation quasi-particle "phonon" crystal vibrations that are excited states above the many-atom ground state.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
"We shall show that it is possible to understand the key character of de-Broglie--Bohm theory, the quantum potential, as the conformal degree of freedom of the space--time metric. In this way, gravity should give the causal structure of the space--time, while quantum phenomena determines the scale"
Understanding Quantum Theory in Terms of Geometry
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0404102
Authors: Fatimah Shojai, Ali Shojai
Comments: 88 Pages, 6 figures. To appear in Progress in Quantum Physics Research, Nova Science Publishers, Inc., 2004
Report-no: IPM/P2004-015
Understanding quantum theory in terms of a geometric picture sounds great. There are different approaches to this idea. Here we shall present a geometric picture of quantum theory using the de-Broglie--Bohm causal interpretation of quantum mechanics. We shall show that it is possible to understand the key character of de-Broglie--Bohm theory, the quantum potential, as the conformal degree of freedom of the space--time metric. In this way, gravity should give the causal structure of the space--time, while quantum phenomena determines the scale. Some toy models in terms of tensor and scalar--tensor theories will be presented. Then a few essential physical aspects of the idea including the effect on the black holes, the initial Big--Bang singularity and non locality are investigated. We shall formulate a quantum equivalence principle according to which gravitational effects can be removed by going to a freely falling frame while quantum effects can be eliminated by choosing an appropriate scale. And we shall see that the best framework for both quantum and gravity is Weyl geometry. Then we shall show how one can get the de-Broglie--Bohm quantum theory out of a Weyl covariant theory. Extension to the case of many particle systems and spinning particles is discussed at the end.
Gary S. Bekkum
garysbekkum@hotmail.com
If they can do the many-spinning particles problem with nonlocal entanglement that is a major advance. Hal Puthoff cannot even solve the problem of one spinning particle in his PV model of the metric engineering of the spacetime fabric to make Unconventional Flying Objects. Hmmn so they are now seeing UFOs over Teheran. What a coincidence! ;-)
On Apr 30, 2004, at 1:53 AM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:
Hi Jack!
You should have pointed out that some Iranian scientists may be on the edge
of the hidden variable Bohmian mechanics with quantum gravity, etc.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/3671271.stm
Iran starstruck by UFO phenomenon
UFO fever is gripping Iran after dozens of Unidentified Flying Object
sightings in the last few days.
State television has shown pictures of a sparkling white disc which it says
was filmed over Tehran on Tuesday.
Other UFOs have been spotted in several northern and north-western cities
moving quickly through the atmosphere emitting brightly coloured rays.
Scientists say the sightings are a result of natural phenomena, but many
people say they are spy planes.
A reporter for the Irna state news agency observed a UFO last week for 90
minutes in the northern city of Bilesavar and was able to film it, according
to a report in the newspaper Hambastegi.
The UFO was spherical and had two arms, the paper said.
'Not experts'
But Sadollah Nasiri-Qeydari, head of Iran's Astronomical Society, has
dismissed the possibility that Iran may be being buzzed by alien craft.
"The people who have seen these things are not experts - farmers, villagers
and pilots," he said.
He said the sightings were consistent with the planet Venus in its current
position.
Its intense light would be given different hues by being filtered through
the atmosphere, he said.
Military and civilian radar services have not registered any violations of
the Islamic republic's air space, Russian news agency RIA reported.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/3671271.stm
Stuart Hameroff had a good idea that the sub-neuronal nano-scale microtubules are the Seat of the Soul. Then he went and ruined it by collaborating with Roger Penrose, who though a genius of the highest rank, got all muddled in the Copenhagen fairy tale of "collapse of the state” - really a remnant of Marxist fantasy as effective in physics as it was in economics and
politics.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Brian Josephson wrote:
“Dear Jack,
How you describe flashes on a screen as particles hit it, if not by collapse? Or are you a Many Worlds Theory person?”
The same way Basil Hiley does. For electrons they are real localized IT particles, like Wheeler's [micro]geons made out of the emergent micro guv field, but with strong short-range gravity, piloted by the BIT quantum potential.
Photons are more tricky and they do have a kind of superluminal collapse as described in the book "The Undivided Universe." But what collapses is not the super-quantum BIT potential, but the energy-carrying IT classical EM field configuration, as I recall. So this is a very different idea of collapse. Basil will correct me here if I misremember? The “many worlds” are the basins of attraction for the IT “extra variables” on the BIT pilot wave landscape. They can be empty of real IT particles, but they are still physically real in the sense of inactive/active qubits.
That’s for micro-quantum theory. In macro-quantum theory the coherent order parameter combines IT with BIT in a single “two-way relation” or “back-action” in the sense of Bohm and Hiley’s p. 30 of “The Undivided Universe.” The quantum BIT wave now has an IT source unlike micro-quantum theory. The nonlinearity and loss of the projective ray property of Dirac’s ket, at this emergent level of new orders of complexity mean spontaneous self-organization with presponse signal-nonlocality, seen for example in Rupert Sheldrake’s “animal telepathy” data, in Dick Bierman’s presonse data and in Puthoff and Targ’s remote viewing data, because we are no longer constrained by the old rules. The idea of the ensemble and Born probabilistic “sub-quantum equilibrium” is gone. Stapp’s “orthodox” paradigm is gone, however his nonlinear model of “retro-psychokinesis” is needed. The algorithm itself has mutated. It has adapted to the new conditions of “More is different.”
politics.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Brian Josephson wrote:
“Dear Jack,
How you describe flashes on a screen as particles hit it, if not by collapse? Or are you a Many Worlds Theory person?”
The same way Basil Hiley does. For electrons they are real localized IT particles, like Wheeler's [micro]geons made out of the emergent micro guv field, but with strong short-range gravity, piloted by the BIT quantum potential.
Photons are more tricky and they do have a kind of superluminal collapse as described in the book "The Undivided Universe." But what collapses is not the super-quantum BIT potential, but the energy-carrying IT classical EM field configuration, as I recall. So this is a very different idea of collapse. Basil will correct me here if I misremember? The “many worlds” are the basins of attraction for the IT “extra variables” on the BIT pilot wave landscape. They can be empty of real IT particles, but they are still physically real in the sense of inactive/active qubits.
That’s for micro-quantum theory. In macro-quantum theory the coherent order parameter combines IT with BIT in a single “two-way relation” or “back-action” in the sense of Bohm and Hiley’s p. 30 of “The Undivided Universe.” The quantum BIT wave now has an IT source unlike micro-quantum theory. The nonlinearity and loss of the projective ray property of Dirac’s ket, at this emergent level of new orders of complexity mean spontaneous self-organization with presponse signal-nonlocality, seen for example in Rupert Sheldrake’s “animal telepathy” data, in Dick Bierman’s presonse data and in Puthoff and Targ’s remote viewing data, because we are no longer constrained by the old rules. The idea of the ensemble and Born probabilistic “sub-quantum equilibrium” is gone. Stapp’s “orthodox” paradigm is gone, however his nonlinear model of “retro-psychokinesis” is needed. The algorithm itself has mutated. It has adapted to the new conditions of “More is different.”
Hameroff had a good idea that the sub-neuronal micro-tubules are the Seat of the Soul. Then he went and ruined it by collaborating with Roger Penrose, who though a genius of the highest rank, got all muddled in the Copenhagen fairy tale of "collapse" of the state - really a remnant of Marxist fantasy as effective in physics as it was in economics and
politics.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Brian Josephson wrote:
“Dear Jack,
How you describe flashes on a screen as particles hit it, if not by collapse? Or are you a Many Worlds Theory person?”
The same way Basil Hiley does. For electrons they are real localized particles, like Wheeler's geons, but with strong short-range gravity, piloted by the quantum potential.
Photons are more tricky and they do have a kind of superluminal collapse as described in the book "Undivided Universe." But what collapses is not the super-quantum BIT potential, but the energy-carrying IT classical EM field configuration, as I recall. So this is a very different idea of collapse. Basil will correct me here if I misremember? The “many worlds” are the basins of attraction on the BIT pilot wave landscape. They can be empty of real IT particles, but they are still physically real in the sense of inactive/active qubits.
politics.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Brian Josephson wrote:
“Dear Jack,
How you describe flashes on a screen as particles hit it, if not by collapse? Or are you a Many Worlds Theory person?”
The same way Basil Hiley does. For electrons they are real localized particles, like Wheeler's geons, but with strong short-range gravity, piloted by the quantum potential.
Photons are more tricky and they do have a kind of superluminal collapse as described in the book "Undivided Universe." But what collapses is not the super-quantum BIT potential, but the energy-carrying IT classical EM field configuration, as I recall. So this is a very different idea of collapse. Basil will correct me here if I misremember? The “many worlds” are the basins of attraction on the BIT pilot wave landscape. They can be empty of real IT particles, but they are still physically real in the sense of inactive/active qubits.
On Apr 29, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Stan Tenen wrote:
Attached is a pre-publication version of an upcoming paper by Karl Pribram.
What do you think of it?
Best,
Stan
My comments on excerpts
To be published in BRAIN and BEING:
At the Boundary Between Science, Philosophy, Language and Art
John Benjamins 2004
BRAIN AND MATHEMATICS
Karl H. Pribram MD; PhD Hon. Multi.
Distinguished Research Professor Cognitive Neuroscience, Department of Psychology, Georgetown University; and School of Computational Sciences, George Mason University
Professor Emeritus Stanford and Radford Universities
BRAIN AND MATHEMATICS
"The fundamental connecting link between mathematics and theoretical physics is the pattern recognition capabilities of the human brain." George Chapline, Physics Reports 315 1999 pp. 95-105
I knew George in 1967 in La Jolla - the scene described by Greg Benford in "Timescape." George does not deal with the "hard problem" of how to describe inner awareness in terms of physics. Neither does Francis Crick.
"It sometimes appears that the resistance to accepting the evidence that cortical cells are responding to the two dimensional Fourier components of stimuli [is due] to a general unease about positing that a complex mathematical operation similar to Fourier analysis might take place in a biological structure like cortical cells. It is almost as if this evoked for some, a specter of a little man sitting in a corner of the cell huddled over a calculator. Nothing of the sort is of course implied: the cells carry out their processing by summation and inhibition and other physiological interactions within their receptive fields. There is no more contradiction between a functional description of some electronic component being a multiplier and its being made up of transistors and wired in a certain fashion. The one level describes the process, the other states the mechanism. DeValois & DeValois, 1988 p 288
The fact that the formalism describing the brain microprocess is identical with the physical microprocess allows two interpretations: (a) The neural microprocess is in fact based on relations among microphysical quantum events, and (b) that the laws describing quantum physics are applicable to certain macrophysical interactions when these attain some special characteristics“ (p. 270). The formalism referred to describes the receptive fields of sensory neurons in the brain cortex. These were mapped in terms of Gabor wavelets or more generally, —four dimensional information hyperspaces based on Jacobi functions (Atick and Redlich, 1989) or Wigner distributions (Wechsler, 1991). Pribram, 1991 Epilogue "
I also use a Wigner distribution idea for the local macro-quantum order parameter Psi(x) that is the physical mind field.
"Within a few days of my second encounter with Hilgard, Nico Spinelli a postdoctoral fellow in my laboratory, brought in a paper written by John Eccles (Scientific American, 1958) in which he stated that although we could only examine synapses one by one, presynaptic branching axons set up synaptic wavefronts. Functionally it is these wavefronts that must be taken into consideration. I immediately realized (see Fig. 1-14, Languages of the Brain 1971) that axons entering the synaptic domain from different directions would set up interference patterns. (It was one of these occasions when one feels an utter fool. The answer to Lashly‘s and my first question as to where were the waves in the brain, had been staring us in the face and we did not have the wit to see it during all those years of discussion.)
Within another few days I received my current edition of Scientific American in which Emmet Leith and J. Upatnicks (1965) describe how recording of interference patterns on film tremendously enhanced storage and processing capability. Images could readily be recovered from the store by appropriate procedures that had been described by Dennis Gabor (1946) almost two decades earlier. Gabor called his mathematical formulation a hologram.
Using the mathematical holographic process as a metaphor seemed like a miraculous answer to Hilgard‘s question. Shading, detail, texture, everything in a pattern that we perceive can be accomplished with ease. Russell and Karen DeValois (1988) book on —Spatial Vision“ and my (1991) book —Brain and Perception“ provide detailed reviews of experimental results that support the conjecture that holography is a useful metaphor in coming to understand the brain/mind relation with regard to perception. Here I want to explore some further thoughts engendered by this use of a mathematical formulation to understand the brain/mind relation."
It is more literally true than a mere metaphor because the physicsl mind field is a giant quantum ODRLO wave Psi(x) in the brain and maybe entire body. x is in ordinary space. Forget the Copenhagen Cult nonsense of "collapse". Giant quantum waves do not collapse. "More is different" (P.W. Anderson). The reason for the hologram interference pattern of our mental life is "generalized phase rigidity" that is the biological analog in the emergence of inner consciousness to Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" for the emergence of both gravity and dark energy out of the cohering of the random zero point quantum vacuum fluctuation energies. "Collapse" means death of the mind. It's the descent into noise. It's the loss of coherent integration of function and use of language seen so frequently in mental wards, on the streets filled with the homeless and in the mad ravings of wannabe Pundits on the Internet. ;-)
"Some years later, in Paris, during a conference sponsored by UNESCO where both Gabor and I were speakers, we had a wonderful dinner together. I told him about the holographic metaphor for brain processing and we discussed its Fourier basis. Gabor was pleased in general but stated that —brain processing [of the kind we were discussing] was Fourier-like but not exactly Fourier.“ I asked, what then might such a relation look like and Gabor had no answer. Rather we got onto a step-wise process that could compose the Fourier -- an explanation that I later used to trace the development of the brain process from retina to cortex. Gabor never then nor later told me about his 1946 contribution to communication theory and practice: that he had developed a formalism to determine the maximum compressibility of a telephone message that renders it still intelligible. He used the same mathematics that Heisenberg had used to describe processes in quantum physics and therefore called his —unit a quantum of information. It took me several years to locate this contribution which is referred to in Likleiter‘s article on acoustics in Stevens 1951 Handbook of Experimental Psychology.
Does this application indicate that the formalism of quantum physics applies more generally to other scales of inquiry? Alternatively, for brain function, at what scale do actual quantum physical processing take place? At what anatomical scale(s) do we find quantum coherence and at what scale does decoherence occur? "
The mind is a large thing immune to environmental decoherence.
"To summarize: The formalisms that describe the holographic process and those that describe quanta of information apparently DO extend to scales other than the quantum. Today we use quantum holography to produce images with the technique of functional Magnetic Resonance (fMRI). The quantities described by terms of the formalisms such as Planck‘s constant will, of course, vary but the formulations will to a large extent be self-similar. The important philosophical implications for the brain/mind issue have been addressed in depth by Henry Stapp on several occasions (e.g 2003, —The Mindful Universe“) as well as by many others including myself (e.g. Pribram, 1997, What is mind that the brain may order it?). "
Stapp's theory is no good because he does not ask the right question. Stapp uses the collapse idea and for that reason throws the consciousness baby out with the bath water out into the briar patch filled with thorns and poison oak in the not hallowed but hollow withered dead Halls of Ivy. Even though von Neumann, London, Wigner and Penrose played with the idea it is no good and does not work. A reading of P.W. Anderson's book "A Career in Theoretical Physics" shows why the quantum measurement approach is no good for consciousness studies. Almost all the quantum theory papers at the Tucson Conferences are not correct. Stapp came closest in his retro-PK paper in Phys Rev A for which he was roasted alive in Physics Today and other boring venues of academic respectablity. Stapp then had a failure of nerve, and like Galileo before the Inquisition of the Immaculate Deception, recanted and has been under virtual house arrest ever since. ;-)
"This means that the Poincare group (Dirac, 1930; Wigner, 1939) is relevant, requiring a manifold of as many as ten dimensions. In the context of modeling the brain process involved in the perception of Shepard figures, what needs to be accomplished —is replacing the Euclidian group [that ordinarily describes geodesics] with the Poincare group of space time isometries, the relativistic analogues of geodesics --.“ (Pribram 1991, p.117)
Sounds interesting but I do not understand how Pribram connects the math to the observations.
"Both theories handle the fundamental issue as to —how can coordinates be assigned to an entity which is, by its nature, invariant to coordinate systems“ (Pellionez and Llinas p. 2950). The very term —holonomy“ was chosen to portray this issue. It is fitting that surface structure tensor circuit theory uses insights from relativity theory while deep structure holonomy regards quantum ... processing. As physicists struggle to tie together relativity and quantum field theory in terms of quantum gravity, perhaps further insights will be obtained for understanding brain processing. (Hameroff and Penrose,1995; Smolin 2004; Ostriker and Steinhardt 2001). "
Hameroff had a good idea that the sub-neuronal micro-tubules are the Seat of the Soul. Then he went and ruined it by collaborating with Roger Penrose, who though a genius of the highest rank, got all muddled in the Copenhagen fairy tale of "collapse" of the state - really a remnant of Marxist fantasy as effective in physics as it was in economics and politics.
"The main practical difference between the theories is that In the Tensor Theory, time synchrony among brain systems (which means correlation of their amplitudes) is all that is required. Holonomic theory indicates that a richer yield is obtained when phase coherence is manifest."
Hear! hear! Hip, hip, hooray. Three cheers, and one cheer more for the hearty concept of phase coherence. But the question is, phase coherence of what?
"Heisenberg matrices (representations of the Heisenberg group) are used and combine in what is called quantum holography (that is, holonomy) with the tensor geometry of relativity. (Schempp 2000)"
"Quantum Brain Dynamics:
Henry Stapp in two excellent articles (Stapp 1997a and b) reviews the development of quantum theory and outlines how it is essential to understanding the mind/brain relationship. Stapp sets up the issue as follows. —Brain process is essentially a search process: the brain, conditioned by earlier experience, searches for a satisfactory response to the new situation that the organism faces. It is reasonable to suppose that a satisfactory response will be programmed by a template for action that will be implemented by a carefully tuned pattern of firings of some collection of neurons."
The neurons are too coarse-grained to explain the hard problem of the emergence of inner consciousness - of who we really are.
"The executive pattern would be a quasi-stable vibration that would commandeer certain energy resources, and then dissipate its energy into the initiation of the action that it represents.“
OK for our machine zombie levels of behavior, but it does not touch on the hard problem.
"Stapp goes on to note that —If the programmed action is complex and refined then this executive pattern must contain a great deal of information and must, accordingly, be confined to a small region of phase space.“
"Small"? Odd statement forStapp is thinking
Entropy ~ log of volume of phase space.
But Entropy/kB ~ number of c-bits
Therefore, we want a big volume of phase space of some system not a small volume. Did Pribram get it upside down here?
Indeed for the hologram, we use AREA not Volume and then the number of c-bits is
Area of cortex/(Quantum of Area) = number of c-bits.
Like in the Bekenstein formula. A black hole is a giant string of BITs inside the event horizon in both sense of physics and computation of a string of c-bits (and maybe qubits). All space is like a black hole in some sense if the world itself is a hologram.
"Holonomic theory indicates that spread functions such as those that compose holography, do indeed make it possible to contain a great deal of information within a small region (patches of dendritic receptive fields) of phase space."
Hmmn.
"Stapp further notes that —the relative timing of the impulses moving along the various neurons, or groups of neurons, will have to conform to certain ideals to within very fine levels of tolerance. How does the hot, wet brain, which is being buffeted around by all sorts of thermal and chaotic disturbances find its way to such a tiny region in a timely manner?“
This is the wrong idea.
"The Question is: What is The Question?" John A. Wheeler
Giant Psi waves are immune to heat decoherence.
"Further: —How in 3n dimensional space (where n represents some huge number of degrees of freedom of the brain) does a point that is moving in a potential well that blocks out those brain states that are not good solutions to the problem --- but does not block the way to good solutions find its way in a short time to a good solution under chaotic initial conditions?"
Signal nonlocality - presponse precognition is essential. This violated quantum theory.
"Stapp notes that classical solutions to this problem won‘t work and that —the quantum system [will work as it] has the advantage of being able to explore simultaneously (because the quantum state corresponds to a superposition of) all allowed possibilities.“
You need creative tension, some linear superposition, but also enough nonlinearity, in sense of the Landau-Ginzburg equation for the giant quantum Psi field, to have signal nonlocality between different parts of the brain that get their marching orders from the same Psi mind field.
"Stapp provides a viable metaphor in a glob or cloud of water acting together rather than as a collection of independently moving droplets. —The motion of each point in the cloud is influenced by its neighbors.“
For that we have the nonlocal Bohm quantum potential of the giant Psi wave. But now we have signal nonlocality not signal locality. The linear unitary Schrodinger equation of micro-quantum theory in huge configuration space is no good. We need the nonlinear nonunitary Landau-Ginzburg equation in ordinary space. Giant quantum mind fields are not "projective rays". "More is different." Trash all of Von Neumann's "Quantum Theory of Measurement." It's useless for the "hard problem." Everything you read in the New Age pop books on the physics of consciousness is "not even wrong." The rules of the Glass Bead Game have changed qualitatively. There are more things between Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in the Copehagen "philofawzy." Something is rotten in the "collapse of the state" in Denmark.
"However classical holography will also do just this."
Giant quantum wave mind fields are like classical holograms in some respects.
"But the advantage of holonomy, that is quantum holography, is that it windows the holographic space providing a —cellular“ phase space structure, in patches of dendritic fields thus enhancing the alternatives and speed with which the process can operate. In short, though the information within a patch is entangled, cooperative processing between patches can continue to cohere or de-coherence can —localize“ the process."
No, all the Tucson Pundits are completely confused. It's not entanglement they need, it's signal nonlocality that they need. They are, all of them, very far from asking the right question. Antony Valentini formulated what is close to the right question in his "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" AKA Landau-Ginzburg equation.
"With regard to evidence regarding the scale at which quantum processes are actually occurring, a number of publications have reported that quantum coherence characterizes the oscillations of ions within neural tissue channels."
See H. Frohlich's model.
(e.g. See Stapp 1997; and Jibu et al 1994; Jibu and Yasue in this volume). The question immediately arises as to whether decoherence occurs when the channels communicate with each other and if so, how. Stapp notes that —phase relationships, which are essential to interference phenomena, get diffused into the environment, and are difficult to retrieve."
Stapp is wrong. He is not looking at the correct giant quantum wave.
"These decoherence effects will have a tendency to reduce, in a system such as the brain, the distances over which the idea of a simple quantum system holds."
Red Herring. Ill-posed. Not even in the right ball park.
I pass over a lot of seeming nonsense about "solitons" et-al based on asking the wrong questions. I could be wrong but for now I will assume I am right and look again perhaps another day.
"FORMALISMS:
The Quantum formalism:
The initial quotation introducing this essay is from the ending of an excellent paper by George Chapline (1999) entitled —Is theoretical physics the same thing as mathematics“. Chapline‘s provocative title employs a bit of poetic license. Nonetheless the paper provides considerable insight as to the applicability of the quantum formalism to other scales of inquiry. Chapline shows that quantum theory —can be interpreted as a canonical method for solving pattern recognition problems“ (p95). In the paper he relates pattern recognition to the Wigner-Moyal formulation of quantum theory stating that this —would be a good place to start looking for a far reaching interpretation of quantum mechanics as a theory of pattern recognition“ (p97).
This is good and I can use Chapline's math with my idea that the mind is a giant quantum wave.
"In a generalization of the Wigner- Moyal phase space he gives the physical dimensions as the Weyl quantization of a complete holographic representation of the surface. He replaces the classical variable of position within an electromagnetic field with ordinary creation and annihilation operators. He shows that —representing a Riemann surface holographically amounts to a pedestrian version of a mathematically elegant characterization of a Riemann surface in terms of its Jacobian variety and associated theta functions“ (p.98). This representation is equivalent —to using the well known generalized coherent states for an SU(n) Lie algebra“ (p.98). This is the formalism employed in —Brain and Percption“ (Pribram, 1991) to handle the formation of invariances that describe entities and objects."
Looks promising.
"There is much more in Chaplin‘s paper that resonates with the holonomic, quantum holographic formulations that describe the data presented in —Brain and Perception“. These formulations are based on quantum-like wavelets, Gabor and Wigner phase spaces. Whether these particular formulations will be found to be the most accurate is not the issue: rather it is that such formalisms can be attempted due to the fact that the —fundamental connecting link between mathematics and physics is the pattern recognition of the human brain“ (p.104).
Here come the qubits.
"As an example of the utility of these insights, Chapline indicates how we might map the co-ordination of processing in the central nervous system. He notes that —the general idea [is] that a quantum mechanical theory of information flow can be looked upon as a model for the type of distributed information processing carried out in the brain.“ He continues, —one of the fundamental heuristics of distributed information processing networks is that minimization of energy consumption requires the use of time division multiplexing for communication between processors, and it would be natural to identify the local internal time in such networks as quantum phase“ (p.104). The caveat is, as noted, that quantum phase is fragile..."
No! Here George errs I suspect. He is apparently not familiar with P.W. Anderson's "generalized phase rigidity" of emergent complexity giving an immunity against environmental decoherence.
End of Commentary 1 on Pribram
Attached is a pre-publication version of an upcoming paper by Karl Pribram.
What do you think of it?
Best,
Stan
My comments on excerpts
To be published in BRAIN and BEING:
At the Boundary Between Science, Philosophy, Language and Art
John Benjamins 2004
BRAIN AND MATHEMATICS
Karl H. Pribram MD; PhD Hon. Multi.
Distinguished Research Professor Cognitive Neuroscience, Department of Psychology, Georgetown University; and School of Computational Sciences, George Mason University
Professor Emeritus Stanford and Radford Universities
BRAIN AND MATHEMATICS
"The fundamental connecting link between mathematics and theoretical physics is the pattern recognition capabilities of the human brain." George Chapline, Physics Reports 315 1999 pp. 95-105
I knew George in 1967 in La Jolla - the scene described by Greg Benford in "Timescape." George does not deal with the "hard problem" of how to describe inner awareness in terms of physics. Neither does Francis Crick.
"It sometimes appears that the resistance to accepting the evidence that cortical cells are responding to the two dimensional Fourier components of stimuli [is due] to a general unease about positing that a complex mathematical operation similar to Fourier analysis might take place in a biological structure like cortical cells. It is almost as if this evoked for some, a specter of a little man sitting in a corner of the cell huddled over a calculator. Nothing of the sort is of course implied: the cells carry out their processing by summation and inhibition and other physiological interactions within their receptive fields. There is no more contradiction between a functional description of some electronic component being a multiplier and its being made up of transistors and wired in a certain fashion. The one level describes the process, the other states the mechanism. DeValois & DeValois, 1988 p 288
The fact that the formalism describing the brain microprocess is identical with the physical microprocess allows two interpretations: (a) The neural microprocess is in fact based on relations among microphysical quantum events, and (b) that the laws describing quantum physics are applicable to certain macrophysical interactions when these attain some special characteristics“ (p. 270). The formalism referred to describes the receptive fields of sensory neurons in the brain cortex. These were mapped in terms of Gabor wavelets or more generally, —four dimensional information hyperspaces based on Jacobi functions (Atick and Redlich, 1989) or Wigner distributions (Wechsler, 1991). Pribram, 1991 Epilogue "
I also use a Wigner distribution idea for the local macro-quantum order parameter Psi(x) that is the physical mind field.
"Within a few days of my second encounter with Hilgard, Nico Spinelli a postdoctoral fellow in my laboratory, brought in a paper written by John Eccles (Scientific American, 1958) in which he stated that although we could only examine synapses one by one, presynaptic branching axons set up synaptic wavefronts. Functionally it is these wavefronts that must be taken into consideration. I immediately realized (see Fig. 1-14, Languages of the Brain 1971) that axons entering the synaptic domain from different directions would set up interference patterns. (It was one of these occasions when one feels an utter fool. The answer to Lashly‘s and my first question as to where were the waves in the brain, had been staring us in the face and we did not have the wit to see it during all those years of discussion.)
Within another few days I received my current edition of Scientific American in which Emmet Leith and J. Upatnicks (1965) describe how recording of interference patterns on film tremendously enhanced storage and processing capability. Images could readily be recovered from the store by appropriate procedures that had been described by Dennis Gabor (1946) almost two decades earlier. Gabor called his mathematical formulation a hologram.
Using the mathematical holographic process as a metaphor seemed like a miraculous answer to Hilgard‘s question. Shading, detail, texture, everything in a pattern that we perceive can be accomplished with ease. Russell and Karen DeValois (1988) book on —Spatial Vision“ and my (1991) book —Brain and Perception“ provide detailed reviews of experimental results that support the conjecture that holography is a useful metaphor in coming to understand the brain/mind relation with regard to perception. Here I want to explore some further thoughts engendered by this use of a mathematical formulation to understand the brain/mind relation."
It is more literally true than a mere metaphor because the physicsl mind field is a giant quantum ODRLO wave Psi(x) in the brain and maybe entire body. x is in ordinary space. Forget the Copenhagen Cult nonsense of "collapse". Giant quantum waves do not collapse. "More is different" (P.W. Anderson). The reason for the hologram interference pattern of our mental life is "generalized phase rigidity" that is the biological analog in the emergence of inner consciousness to Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" for the emergence of both gravity and dark energy out of the cohering of the random zero point quantum vacuum fluctuation energies. "Collapse" means death of the mind. It's the descent into noise. It's the loss of coherent integration of function and use of language seen so frequently in mental wards, on the streets filled with the homeless and in the mad ravings of wannabe Pundits on the Internet. ;-)
"Some years later, in Paris, during a conference sponsored by UNESCO where both Gabor and I were speakers, we had a wonderful dinner together. I told him about the holographic metaphor for brain processing and we discussed its Fourier basis. Gabor was pleased in general but stated that —brain processing [of the kind we were discussing] was Fourier-like but not exactly Fourier.“ I asked, what then might such a relation look like and Gabor had no answer. Rather we got onto a step-wise process that could compose the Fourier -- an explanation that I later used to trace the development of the brain process from retina to cortex. Gabor never then nor later told me about his 1946 contribution to communication theory and practice: that he had developed a formalism to determine the maximum compressibility of a telephone message that renders it still intelligible. He used the same mathematics that Heisenberg had used to describe processes in quantum physics and therefore called his —unit a quantum of information. It took me several years to locate this contribution which is referred to in Likleiter‘s article on acoustics in Stevens 1951 Handbook of Experimental Psychology.
Does this application indicate that the formalism of quantum physics applies more generally to other scales of inquiry? Alternatively, for brain function, at what scale do actual quantum physical processing take place? At what anatomical scale(s) do we find quantum coherence and at what scale does decoherence occur? "
The mind is a large thing immune to environmental decoherence.
"To summarize: The formalisms that describe the holographic process and those that describe quanta of information apparently DO extend to scales other than the quantum. Today we use quantum holography to produce images with the technique of functional Magnetic Resonance (fMRI). The quantities described by terms of the formalisms such as Planck‘s constant will, of course, vary but the formulations will to a large extent be self-similar. The important philosophical implications for the brain/mind issue have been addressed in depth by Henry Stapp on several occasions (e.g 2003, —The Mindful Universe“) as well as by many others including myself (e.g. Pribram, 1997, What is mind that the brain may order it?). "
Stapp's theory is no good because he does not ask the right question. Stapp uses the collapse idea and for that reason throws the consciousness baby out with the bath water out into the briar patch filled with thorns and poison oak in the not hallowed but hollow withered dead Halls of Ivy. Even though von Neumann, London, Wigner and Penrose played with the idea it is no good and does not work. A reading of P.W. Anderson's book "A Career in Theoretical Physics" shows why the quantum measurement approach is no good for consciousness studies. Almost all the quantum theory papers at the Tucson Conferences are not correct. Stapp came closest in his retro-PK paper in Phys Rev A for which he was roasted alive in Physics Today and other boring venues of academic respectablity. Stapp then had a failure of nerve, and like Galileo before the Inquisition of the Immaculate Deception, recanted and has been under virtual house arrest ever since. ;-)
"This means that the Poincare group (Dirac, 1930; Wigner, 1939) is relevant, requiring a manifold of as many as ten dimensions. In the context of modeling the brain process involved in the perception of Shepard figures, what needs to be accomplished —is replacing the Euclidian group [that ordinarily describes geodesics] with the Poincare group of space time isometries, the relativistic analogues of geodesics --.“ (Pribram 1991, p.117)
Sounds interesting but I do not understand how Pribram connects the math to the observations.
"Both theories handle the fundamental issue as to —how can coordinates be assigned to an entity which is, by its nature, invariant to coordinate systems“ (Pellionez and Llinas p. 2950). The very term —holonomy“ was chosen to portray this issue. It is fitting that surface structure tensor circuit theory uses insights from relativity theory while deep structure holonomy regards quantum ... processing. As physicists struggle to tie together relativity and quantum field theory in terms of quantum gravity, perhaps further insights will be obtained for understanding brain processing. (Hameroff and Penrose,1995; Smolin 2004; Ostriker and Steinhardt 2001). "
Hameroff had a good idea that the sub-neuronal micro-tubules are the Seat of the Soul. Then he went and ruined it by collaborating with Roger Penrose, who though a genius of the highest rank, got all muddled in the Copenhagen fairy tale of "collapse" of the state - really a remnant of Marxist fantasy as effective in physics as it was in economics and politics.
"The main practical difference between the theories is that In the Tensor Theory, time synchrony among brain systems (which means correlation of their amplitudes) is all that is required. Holonomic theory indicates that a richer yield is obtained when phase coherence is manifest."
Hear! hear! Hip, hip, hooray. Three cheers, and one cheer more for the hearty concept of phase coherence. But the question is, phase coherence of what?
"Heisenberg matrices (representations of the Heisenberg group) are used and combine in what is called quantum holography (that is, holonomy) with the tensor geometry of relativity. (Schempp 2000)"
"Quantum Brain Dynamics:
Henry Stapp in two excellent articles (Stapp 1997a and b) reviews the development of quantum theory and outlines how it is essential to understanding the mind/brain relationship. Stapp sets up the issue as follows. —Brain process is essentially a search process: the brain, conditioned by earlier experience, searches for a satisfactory response to the new situation that the organism faces. It is reasonable to suppose that a satisfactory response will be programmed by a template for action that will be implemented by a carefully tuned pattern of firings of some collection of neurons."
The neurons are too coarse-grained to explain the hard problem of the emergence of inner consciousness - of who we really are.
"The executive pattern would be a quasi-stable vibration that would commandeer certain energy resources, and then dissipate its energy into the initiation of the action that it represents.“
OK for our machine zombie levels of behavior, but it does not touch on the hard problem.
"Stapp goes on to note that —If the programmed action is complex and refined then this executive pattern must contain a great deal of information and must, accordingly, be confined to a small region of phase space.“
"Small"? Odd statement forStapp is thinking
Entropy ~ log of volume of phase space.
But Entropy/kB ~ number of c-bits
Therefore, we want a big volume of phase space of some system not a small volume. Did Pribram get it upside down here?
Indeed for the hologram, we use AREA not Volume and then the number of c-bits is
Area of cortex/(Quantum of Area) = number of c-bits.
Like in the Bekenstein formula. A black hole is a giant string of BITs inside the event horizon in both sense of physics and computation of a string of c-bits (and maybe qubits). All space is like a black hole in some sense if the world itself is a hologram.
"Holonomic theory indicates that spread functions such as those that compose holography, do indeed make it possible to contain a great deal of information within a small region (patches of dendritic receptive fields) of phase space."
Hmmn.
"Stapp further notes that —the relative timing of the impulses moving along the various neurons, or groups of neurons, will have to conform to certain ideals to within very fine levels of tolerance. How does the hot, wet brain, which is being buffeted around by all sorts of thermal and chaotic disturbances find its way to such a tiny region in a timely manner?“
This is the wrong idea.
"The Question is: What is The Question?" John A. Wheeler
Giant Psi waves are immune to heat decoherence.
"Further: —How in 3n dimensional space (where n represents some huge number of degrees of freedom of the brain) does a point that is moving in a potential well that blocks out those brain states that are not good solutions to the problem --- but does not block the way to good solutions find its way in a short time to a good solution under chaotic initial conditions?"
Signal nonlocality - presponse precognition is essential. This violated quantum theory.
"Stapp notes that classical solutions to this problem won‘t work and that —the quantum system [will work as it] has the advantage of being able to explore simultaneously (because the quantum state corresponds to a superposition of) all allowed possibilities.“
You need creative tension, some linear superposition, but also enough nonlinearity, in sense of the Landau-Ginzburg equation for the giant quantum Psi field, to have signal nonlocality between different parts of the brain that get their marching orders from the same Psi mind field.
"Stapp provides a viable metaphor in a glob or cloud of water acting together rather than as a collection of independently moving droplets. —The motion of each point in the cloud is influenced by its neighbors.“
For that we have the nonlocal Bohm quantum potential of the giant Psi wave. But now we have signal nonlocality not signal locality. The linear unitary Schrodinger equation of micro-quantum theory in huge configuration space is no good. We need the nonlinear nonunitary Landau-Ginzburg equation in ordinary space. Giant quantum mind fields are not "projective rays". "More is different." Trash all of Von Neumann's "Quantum Theory of Measurement." It's useless for the "hard problem." Everything you read in the New Age pop books on the physics of consciousness is "not even wrong." The rules of the Glass Bead Game have changed qualitatively. There are more things between Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in the Copehagen "philofawzy." Something is rotten in the "collapse of the state" in Denmark.
"However classical holography will also do just this."
Giant quantum wave mind fields are like classical holograms in some respects.
"But the advantage of holonomy, that is quantum holography, is that it windows the holographic space providing a —cellular“ phase space structure, in patches of dendritic fields thus enhancing the alternatives and speed with which the process can operate. In short, though the information within a patch is entangled, cooperative processing between patches can continue to cohere or de-coherence can —localize“ the process."
No, all the Tucson Pundits are completely confused. It's not entanglement they need, it's signal nonlocality that they need. They are, all of them, very far from asking the right question. Antony Valentini formulated what is close to the right question in his "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" AKA Landau-Ginzburg equation.
"With regard to evidence regarding the scale at which quantum processes are actually occurring, a number of publications have reported that quantum coherence characterizes the oscillations of ions within neural tissue channels."
See H. Frohlich's model.
(e.g. See Stapp 1997; and Jibu et al 1994; Jibu and Yasue in this volume). The question immediately arises as to whether decoherence occurs when the channels communicate with each other and if so, how. Stapp notes that —phase relationships, which are essential to interference phenomena, get diffused into the environment, and are difficult to retrieve."
Stapp is wrong. He is not looking at the correct giant quantum wave.
"These decoherence effects will have a tendency to reduce, in a system such as the brain, the distances over which the idea of a simple quantum system holds."
Red Herring. Ill-posed. Not even in the right ball park.
I pass over a lot of seeming nonsense about "solitons" et-al based on asking the wrong questions. I could be wrong but for now I will assume I am right and look again perhaps another day.
"FORMALISMS:
The Quantum formalism:
The initial quotation introducing this essay is from the ending of an excellent paper by George Chapline (1999) entitled —Is theoretical physics the same thing as mathematics“. Chapline‘s provocative title employs a bit of poetic license. Nonetheless the paper provides considerable insight as to the applicability of the quantum formalism to other scales of inquiry. Chapline shows that quantum theory —can be interpreted as a canonical method for solving pattern recognition problems“ (p95). In the paper he relates pattern recognition to the Wigner-Moyal formulation of quantum theory stating that this —would be a good place to start looking for a far reaching interpretation of quantum mechanics as a theory of pattern recognition“ (p97).
This is good and I can use Chapline's math with my idea that the mind is a giant quantum wave.
"In a generalization of the Wigner- Moyal phase space he gives the physical dimensions as the Weyl quantization of a complete holographic representation of the surface. He replaces the classical variable of position within an electromagnetic field with ordinary creation and annihilation operators. He shows that —representing a Riemann surface holographically amounts to a pedestrian version of a mathematically elegant characterization of a Riemann surface in terms of its Jacobian variety and associated theta functions“ (p.98). This representation is equivalent —to using the well known generalized coherent states for an SU(n) Lie algebra“ (p.98). This is the formalism employed in —Brain and Percption“ (Pribram, 1991) to handle the formation of invariances that describe entities and objects."
Looks promising.
"There is much more in Chaplin‘s paper that resonates with the holonomic, quantum holographic formulations that describe the data presented in —Brain and Perception“. These formulations are based on quantum-like wavelets, Gabor and Wigner phase spaces. Whether these particular formulations will be found to be the most accurate is not the issue: rather it is that such formalisms can be attempted due to the fact that the —fundamental connecting link between mathematics and physics is the pattern recognition of the human brain“ (p.104).
Here come the qubits.
"As an example of the utility of these insights, Chapline indicates how we might map the co-ordination of processing in the central nervous system. He notes that —the general idea [is] that a quantum mechanical theory of information flow can be looked upon as a model for the type of distributed information processing carried out in the brain.“ He continues, —one of the fundamental heuristics of distributed information processing networks is that minimization of energy consumption requires the use of time division multiplexing for communication between processors, and it would be natural to identify the local internal time in such networks as quantum phase“ (p.104). The caveat is, as noted, that quantum phase is fragile..."
No! Here George errs I suspect. He is apparently not familiar with P.W. Anderson's "generalized phase rigidity" of emergent complexity giving an immunity against environmental decoherence.
End of Commentary 1 on Pribram
Thursday, April 29, 2004
That's why Victor you should check your sources before spreading lies about people like me and Puthoff!
The truth is good enough without the lies!
On Apr 29, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Victor Martinez wrote:
DOC:
You might be interested in this. It was NOT addressed to me, but instead to a resident of New Zealand.
From: Puthoff@aol.com
Date: April 29, 2004 11:06:02 AM PDT
To: brel@ihug.co.nz
Subject: Re: Hal Puthoff discusses ZPE in 'Bermuda Triangle' mystery and much more!
In a message dated 4/28/04 11:48:22 PM, brel@ihug.co.nz writes:
Quote I think from Dr Harold E Puthoff;
'We see a human being as a figure and forget the molecular, cellular, and electromagnetic machine that it is.'
HP: Actually, I didn't say that (though it's a nice quote!)
Victor Martinez wrote:
ONE OF AMERICA's LEADING PHYSICISTS Dr HAROLD E
PUTHOFF ADDRESSES THE POSSIBLE INVOLVEMENT OF ZERO-POINT ENERGY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SLEW OF DISAPPEARANCES IN THE SO-CALLED 'BERMUDA TRIANGLE'
HP: I have never addressed this issue. It must be that the author of the book uses my published work to address this issue. (I have never heard of nor talked to the author.)
ALSO ADDRESSES HIS STILL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED
'ABOVE-TOP-SECRET' WORK ON REMOTE VIEWING FOR THE CIA IN A BOMBSHELL NEW BOOK! –
HP: Again, author must have gotten this info from public sources about my work.
By Gian J Quasar, "INTO THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE: PURSUING THE TRUTH BEHIND THE WORLD's GREATEST MYSTERY
HP: Just got a copy of this book from Victor, but not have a chance to check it out yet.
Dr HAL PUTHOFF, of Stanford University, an expert in lasers and in theoretical zero-point energy fluctuations, came to this theory and proposed that beds of algae could be linked with others by lasers to see if one's electromagnetic pulse reactions were transmitted along the laser beam to the other bed which, sensing these wavelength changes, would react identically.
HP: I did have a proposal circulating to do such an experiment, though it never got funded. This the author must have gotten from open literature.
In one incident he recalled, Dr Puthoff invited, through mutual acquaintances, the famous medium Ingo Swann to participate by being placed in a chamber such as the ones the Soviets had surrounded their plants with in their ESP tests. When Swann merely approached the
chamber, all the gadgets, indicators and lights went on and reacted violently. Swann then immediately drew an accurate picture of what the interior of the complex chamber looked like, though he had never seen it and the chamber had never been photographed or the classified descriptions of it circulated in any published form.
HP: A garbled version that we published concerning Swann's affecting a shielded magnetometer experiment.
After being shown disturbing information that the CIA had obtained on Soviet psychic spies' "remote viewing" of the United States, Dr Puthoff agreed to head the U.S. counter "remote viewing" program, selecting sensitive people to counterspy with no other means than their minds. According to some published accounts, the U.S psychic spies were able to roam the Soviet Union in every dimension of the three planes of space we occupy, as well as the fourth,... of TIME. THE RESULTS OF THIS DATA – obtained over Puthoff's 15-year tenure – ARE STILL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.
HP: Essentially true, though 78,000 pages have been declassified and are available at the National Archives (NARA) under the label "Star Gate Program."
Cheers,
Hal
Jack: Yes, the CIA RV work was confirmed to me directly in 1984-5 by CIA Chief of Station Harold Chipman as told in my book "Destiny Matrix" with corroborating documents reproduced. I support Puthoff and Targ's RV work. It is data for my theory of "signal nonlocality" showing breakdown of quantum theory in living matter. Antony Valentini has formalized this as "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" in sense of Bohm's "hidden variable" theory with the nonlocal BIT "quantum potential." Dick Bierman's "presponse" is further evidence.
My physics argument with Hal is strictly limited to
1. His work with Haisch et-al on EM ZPF origin of rest mass of the electron/quarks.
2. His use of Dicke's 1961 dielectric theory as a plausible model for metric engineering space-time fabric to explain flying saucers like the "reverse Doppler effect" reported by Bruce Cornet of NIDS. My theory explains all that very simply and directly. BTW Hal has not made any significant additions to what Dicke already did in 1961, which is now falsified by recent observed facts of "precision cosmology" since 1999. Specifically
i. Type 1a super novae redshifts
ii. Dark matter gravity lensing
iii. NASA WMAP space-probe data
The truth is good enough without the lies!
On Apr 29, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Victor Martinez wrote:
DOC:
You might be interested in this. It was NOT addressed to me, but instead to a resident of New Zealand.
From: Puthoff@aol.com
Date: April 29, 2004 11:06:02 AM PDT
To: brel@ihug.co.nz
Subject: Re: Hal Puthoff discusses ZPE in 'Bermuda Triangle' mystery and much more!
In a message dated 4/28/04 11:48:22 PM, brel@ihug.co.nz writes:
Quote I think from Dr Harold E Puthoff;
'We see a human being as a figure and forget the molecular, cellular, and electromagnetic machine that it is.'
HP: Actually, I didn't say that (though it's a nice quote!)
Victor Martinez wrote:
ONE OF AMERICA's LEADING PHYSICISTS Dr HAROLD E
PUTHOFF ADDRESSES THE POSSIBLE INVOLVEMENT OF ZERO-POINT ENERGY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SLEW OF DISAPPEARANCES IN THE SO-CALLED 'BERMUDA TRIANGLE'
HP: I have never addressed this issue. It must be that the author of the book uses my published work to address this issue. (I have never heard of nor talked to the author.)
ALSO ADDRESSES HIS STILL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED
'ABOVE-TOP-SECRET' WORK ON REMOTE VIEWING FOR THE CIA IN A BOMBSHELL NEW BOOK! –
HP: Again, author must have gotten this info from public sources about my work.
By Gian J Quasar, "INTO THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE: PURSUING THE TRUTH BEHIND THE WORLD's GREATEST MYSTERY
HP: Just got a copy of this book from Victor, but not have a chance to check it out yet.
Dr HAL PUTHOFF, of Stanford University, an expert in lasers and in theoretical zero-point energy fluctuations, came to this theory and proposed that beds of algae could be linked with others by lasers to see if one's electromagnetic pulse reactions were transmitted along the laser beam to the other bed which, sensing these wavelength changes, would react identically.
HP: I did have a proposal circulating to do such an experiment, though it never got funded. This the author must have gotten from open literature.
In one incident he recalled, Dr Puthoff invited, through mutual acquaintances, the famous medium Ingo Swann to participate by being placed in a chamber such as the ones the Soviets had surrounded their plants with in their ESP tests. When Swann merely approached the
chamber, all the gadgets, indicators and lights went on and reacted violently. Swann then immediately drew an accurate picture of what the interior of the complex chamber looked like, though he had never seen it and the chamber had never been photographed or the classified descriptions of it circulated in any published form.
HP: A garbled version that we published concerning Swann's affecting a shielded magnetometer experiment.
After being shown disturbing information that the CIA had obtained on Soviet psychic spies' "remote viewing" of the United States, Dr Puthoff agreed to head the U.S. counter "remote viewing" program, selecting sensitive people to counterspy with no other means than their minds. According to some published accounts, the U.S psychic spies were able to roam the Soviet Union in every dimension of the three planes of space we occupy, as well as the fourth,... of TIME. THE RESULTS OF THIS DATA – obtained over Puthoff's 15-year tenure – ARE STILL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.
HP: Essentially true, though 78,000 pages have been declassified and are available at the National Archives (NARA) under the label "Star Gate Program."
Cheers,
Hal
Jack: Yes, the CIA RV work was confirmed to me directly in 1984-5 by CIA Chief of Station Harold Chipman as told in my book "Destiny Matrix" with corroborating documents reproduced. I support Puthoff and Targ's RV work. It is data for my theory of "signal nonlocality" showing breakdown of quantum theory in living matter. Antony Valentini has formalized this as "sub-quantal non-equilibrium" in sense of Bohm's "hidden variable" theory with the nonlocal BIT "quantum potential." Dick Bierman's "presponse" is further evidence.
My physics argument with Hal is strictly limited to
1. His work with Haisch et-al on EM ZPF origin of rest mass of the electron/quarks.
2. His use of Dicke's 1961 dielectric theory as a plausible model for metric engineering space-time fabric to explain flying saucers like the "reverse Doppler effect" reported by Bruce Cornet of NIDS. My theory explains all that very simply and directly. BTW Hal has not made any significant additions to what Dicke already did in 1961, which is now falsified by recent observed facts of "precision cosmology" since 1999. Specifically
i. Type 1a super novae redshifts
ii. Dark matter gravity lensing
iii. NASA WMAP space-probe data
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