Tuesday, November 04, 2003

Since James makes money lecturing on theUFO debunking circuit his motives are clearly compromised. James may be a perfectly good engineer in his field, but his obvious training, like all most kn ee jerk debunkers (true believers are even worse of course) and education is in classical physics a half century out of date and he is not at all up on what has been happening in physics for these past few decades especially the new discoveries in "precision cosmology." He has no conception of what the discovery of "dark energy" does to the whole UFO controversy -- none of the Pundits do as yet. They will.

James should study my http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov ASAP

On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Scott Littleton wrote:

Hi Jim,

OK, I believe you. But I do suspect that you may have been subtly conditioned by your NASA(?) experience to accept uncritically (despite your overt commitment to "critical thinking") the Government's long-standing public position re the phenomenon in question, that is, that UFOs (and aliens) are all either misidentifications of natural phenomena, hoaxes, or hallucinations, mass and otherwise. This, I suspect-taking you at your word that you're not cynically mouthing a "party line" that you know to be false-is reinforced by the logically flawed assumption that they shouldn't exist, therefore they don't exist. Clearly, it's very difficult for most mainstream members of the scientific and engineering establishment-that is, those not privy to (or part of) any Government-sponsored disinformation campaign-to accept even the remote possibility that we human beings are, in effect, "Wogs" vis-a-vis what I've come to think of as an "Alien Raj," an extraterrestrial (or possibly extra-dimensional) colonial establishment that has maintained clandestine hegemony over this planet for at least the last eleven or twelve millennia, if I read the late Upper Paleolithic evidence correctly.

No, of course I can't as yet prove any of this definitively. But the vast amount of observational evidence, as gathered by people like Richard Dolan, et al., is extremely persuasive, as is the comparative mythological and folkloric evidence, which you may not be aware of (this is my anthropological specialty), and which, after stripping away the pre-modern glosses and metaphors, closely resembles what has been reported by contemporary abductees and other "experiencers." And now that physicists like Jack Sarfatti are beginning to give us a handle on these remarkable craft appear to work, the probability of their presence, both today and in the past, is significantly reinforced.

Again, once we get over the ego problem, and can accept-and live with-at least the possibility that we've long since been trumped by "others" when it comes to the technology of space exploration, we can begin to approach this supremely important phenomenon objectively, and from a variety of perspectives, including that of the cultural anthropologist, free from the hysterical sneering, ridicule, and marginalizing that all too frequently tarnishes the discussion of UFOs, whether by "mainstream" scientists or by the media. (That much of this sneering and ridicule is the result of a conscious policy on the part of the Government, or some elements thereof, to discredit anyone who takes the subject seriously so as to keep the truth from becoming general knowledge-perhaps due to a legitimate fear of massive and socially disruptive nativistic movements that would put the New Guinean "Cargo Cults" to shame-is a can of peas which I won't re-open any further in this message.)

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
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indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Oberg [mailto:jameseoberg@houston.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:17 PM
To: Scott Littleton
Subject: Fw: Skeptical Inquirer UFO

fyi


----- Original Message -----
From: "JimO"
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.space,sci.math
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Skeptical Inquirer UFO


I can solve this one.

The answer, for me at least, is 'No'. My agenda is to find out about
mysterious aerospace reports and events (see www.jamesoberg.com) and share
what I've found, for discussion, with no directives, constraints, or other
external controls over my activities whatsover.

You may stop wondering, and start thinking, now.

Jim Oberg
Phi Beta Kappa, Ohio Wesleyan University, 1966


Or do debunkers like Sheaffer, Oberg, Klass, and the rest have another,
more devious agenda,
that is, to further the Government's long-standing policy of keeping the
lid
on by systematically ridiculing those of us who suspect the truth about
this
phenomenon, all the while being privy to above-top-secret knowledge that
would prove us right? One wonders....

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California




re: Nick Cook's "Hunt for the Zero Point"

http://www.salon.com/books/review/2002/08/05/zero_gravity/

On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 03:12 PM, wigstonmagna wrote:

--- In ItalianPhysicsCenter@yahoogroups.com, Jack Sarfatti
wrote:
How about this from a PhD physicist, in the minority, who has
studied the UFO subject:

"I did some investigating and interviewed retired senior USG
executives
who laid the Nazi flying saucer (disguised as UFOs) claim (a la
Cook's book) to rest - it didn't exist and it didn't fly."

Which is pretty much what I have also been saying about Cook's
book BTW.

I'm interested in any debunkery of Cook's book. What did this Ph.D.
fellow discover precisely?

You need to ask him. I have bcc'd him on this. He can reveal his ID if he wishes. He has USG Intelligence connections for information.

The point is that we at ISSO 1999-2000 at checked out many of the bogus claims on zero point energy by fringe people and found them to be essentially worthless.
Creon Levit on leave from NASA Ames did a very thorough job on several of the claims. More information on this is in my two books from 2002 "Destiny Matrix" and "Space-Time and Beyond II" and in my semi-popular Oct 24, 2003 Austin Texas talk "What Is The Universe Made Of" to the Society for Literature and Science
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

Note of clarification I do not include the Haisch-Puthoff zero point energy program nor Puthoff's PV gravity program in the same crackpot category as ALL the other work mentioned by Nick Cook in his book. My objections to the HRP program are that they do not ask the right questions, are basically superficial in their formulations, make some errors of interpretation of their formalisms and most importantly have not led to any testable predictions nor any clarifying explanations of significant problems and mysteries, e.g the UFO. They are not "bogus" physics simply "wrong" physics in my humble opinion.

A few specifics:

1. On the zero point origin of inertia - it is a mistake to look only at the virtual photons. It is the virtual electron-positrons that is most important.

2. There is no "vacuum coherence" in their idea set. That throws the baby out with the bathwater because guv Einstein's metric field for curved spacetime emerges from that non-perturbative vacuum coherence of the virtual electron-positron pairs primarily. So does the dark energy/matter that is 96% of the universe that does not appear anywhere in their models. They have been working on this for almost 20 years with little to show really.

3. There is no PV (i.e. no quantum polarized fluctuations) in Puthoff's PV math.

4. Puthoff and Ibison mis-interpret the physical meaning of their isotropic radial r coordinate in their toy model K = e^2GM/c^r

Puthoff is very interested in UFOs and that is a primary motivation for this zero point gravity work. Nowhere do Puthoff and Haisch et-al squarely face the number

String Tension = c^4/8piG = 10^19 Gev per 10^-33 cm which prevents any plausible explanation of UFO "metric engineering" with their brute force approach. Space-time geometry is simply too stiff to bend with the energy schemes they have in their paradigm. They are missing some very essential new concepts.

Cook is a very approachable fellow; have
you cross-checked with him also?

-Andrew

Cook contacted me before he wrote the book. He did not like what I told him about the flaky stuff he was pushing so he
erased me from his book. That told me he was not intellectually honest, but had some hidden non-scientific agenda. I
find this disturbing since he is associated with Jane's Defence Weekly in UK.

bcc new advanced physics list

Paul, I suspect the key CLASSICAL argument against a LOCAL vacuum gravity stress-energy tensor different from Ruv itself in Einstein's vacuum field equation

Ruv = 0

goes something like this

1. If ordinary matter, radiation and near EM fields (all in Tuv) are locally present then Einstein's CLASSICAL local field equation

Guv = Ruv - (1/2)Rguv = - (8piG/c^4)Tuv

Can be written as

tuv(vac) + Tuv = 0

Where

tuv(vac) = (c^4/8piG)Guv = (String Tension)("Marble" Curvature)

i.e. in Einstein's colorful terms

tuv(Marble) + Tuv(Wood) = 0

End of story, simple solution.

2. Another aspect of the problem is to add new nonlinear terms like

t'uv(vac) =Lp^2 (c^4/8piG)RuwlsRv^w^l^s

to the field equation. I did not check BTW to see if that particular expression is a symmetric tensor. I am just trying to show the general idea.

3. Quantum aspect of the problem is that random zero point vacuum fluctuations of all physical quantum fields contribute to the "cosmological term"

/\zpfguv

that must be added to Einstein's field equations to get

Guv + /\zpfguv = - (String Tension)^-1Tuv

Note that Sakharov's

"Metric Elasticity" = (String Tension)^-1 = Space-Time Stiffness

The tighter the string tension the less elastic is the geometry.

/\zpf = exotic vacuum unified Dark Energy/Matter LOCAL field, which in large scale FRW regime is Einstein's "cosmological constant" but on smaller scale is a local inhomogeneous dynamic spin 0 field that stabilizes the spatially-extended "hidden variable" lepto-quarks against their explosive self-electric charge. The lepto-quarks obey a "micro-geon" quasi Kerr-Newmann metric with additional topological "handles" for the SU(2)xSU(3) charge generators in the extra space dimensions (i.e. Calabi-Yau spaces of M theory in "engineer's language" via "black hole - membrane" dualities). The lepto-quarks shrink from 10^-13 cm at low energy to 10^-18 cm for high energy large magnification Heisenberg microscope images because of the huge space warp from the strong G* ~ 10^40 G(Newton) zero point dark energy cores holding the explosive self-electric charge and the centrifugal & Coriolis inertial forces in equilibrium. All this is "IT" in the Bohm Pilot "BIT" Wave theory.

IT gets its marching orders from BIT (action)

BIT is warped by IT (reaction)

At a coarser purely IT level "Matter" emerges as micro-geons getting subsidiary "classical" marching orders from geometry.

The "geometry" is from the macro-quantum coherence, i.e.,

guv = (Minkowski)uv + (Metric Elasticity)(Modulation of Goldstone Vacuum Superfluid Phase)uv

/\zpf = (Planck Area*)^-1[1 - (Planck Volume)(Higgs Field)^2]

/\zpf = 0 is "classical" non-gravitating non-exotic vacuum.

/\zpf > 0 is w = -1 anti-gravity exotic vacuum "dark energy" with negative pressure and positive zero point energy density.

/\zpf < 0 is w = -1 gravitating exotic vacuum "dark matter" with positive pressure and negative zero point energy density.

Big clumps of w = -1 "dark matter" (e.g. dark galactic spheres) float in the Hubble flow like w ~ 0 for us distant observers.

Lp*^2 = G*h/c^3

Universal Regge slope of hadronic resonances on micro-scale is

G*/hc^5 in

J = (G*/hc^5)E^2 + Jo = n/2

Blackett Effect seen in many rotating astrophysical objects with anomalous magnetic dipole is reduced to

G^1/2m = e

(papers by Saul-Paul Sirag)

at large scale where G* ---> G.

Now Matt Visser's review paper has impractical perturbative quantum field theory formulae for both large-scale G(Newton) and cosmological constant /\.

However my model is better because it is intrinsically non-perturbative like the BCS theory is.

I have NON-PERTURBATIVE

Macro-Quantum Vacuum Coherence = (Higgs Field)e^i (Goldstone Phase)

Visser does not have that non-perturbative "More is different" (PW Anderson) "Vacuum Coherence" whose "generalized phase rigidity" is precisely "String Tension" (in Blackhole-Membrane Duality) = Sakharov's (Metric Elasticity)^-1.

I also explain how LOCAL MACRO PHYSICS emerges from quantum field theory whose entangled Fock space states are nonlocal. I also explain why post-inflationary early universe has low entropy from collapse of vacuum phase space volume hence how the cosmic irreversibility Arrow of Time is pointed. I also give a micro-QED dynamical instability for the large scale FRW "chaotic inflation field" of Linde et-al, which previously was only a useful "fudge factor" with no fundamental dynamics (according to Mike Turner at both March & April 2003 APS meetings).

On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 08:29 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 10:09 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

Jack Sarfatti wrote:

Paul

The MTW argument against Yilmaz is simply that one cannot make a local
classical vacuum pure gravity stress-energy density tensor from the
torsion-free non tensor connection without violating the equivalence
principle.

"But we have to be very careful about what we mean by "the equivalence principle".
There is the so-called "EEP"; there is Einstein's original "equivalence principle;" which
can be viewed as an interpretation of the "EEP"; and there is the alternative interpretation
of the "EEP" in terms of *inertial compensation* which rejects Einstein's fundamental
identification of gravitational and inertial fields."

What you need to do is spell out carefully all of these different versions in "formal" terms and in clear
operational terms to see if there is really any scientific difference of any importance. I do not understand
what you mean by "inertial compensation" above. I think the gravity force, i.e. the "fictitious" or "inertial" g-force i.e. the metric torsion-free connection for parallel transport in the original 1915 theory is LOCALLY equivalent to a
"gravity force". Whether or not that gravity force is "real" depends on whether or not there is a local tidal curvature differential in the g-force as described by the geodesic deviation equation between two neighboring timelike geodesic LIF free float observers. This curvature tensor tidal differential force cannot be eliminated locally.

All I mean effectively by "EEP" is the set of following "formal" statements.

1. There exist local tetrads ea^u(P) at point P such that

nab = ea^u(P)eb^v(P)guv(P)


2. The local symmetric torsion-free connection from first derivatives of the metric guv(P) can be set to zero locally at P.

This defines the distinction between LIFs on timelike geodesics and LNIF's on timelike non-geodesics both intersecting at same P.

Note timelike non-geodesics could not exist without electrical charge. Neither presumably could "light" hence no light cones hence nothing - not even null geodesics. This suggests in itself that gravity is an emergent collective effect primarily from electromagnetism and Heisenberg quantum uncertainty as
suggested by Sakharov's "metric elasticity."

Part of the confusion is that "curvature" = "field strength" in the modern fiber bundle picture of the spin 1 gauge forces.

The "connection" for parallel transport in the internal dimensions beyond space-time (or extra space dimensions of Kaluza-Klein et-al) is theYang-Mills "potential" like the EM 4-vector potential Au(P) in the U(1) EM simplest case.

On the other hand it is the metric, specifically goo(P) ~ (1 + 2U(Newton)/c^2) in weak field slow motion static spherically symmetric vacuum case outside M

where U(Newton) = -GM/r = Gravity potential energy per test particle from source mass M

leading to notion of gravity force as connection from Newton's 2nd law on test particle m

F = -m GradU(Newton)

F is locally eliminitable on the LIF timelike geodesics in curved space-time.

Tidal inhomogeneous differentials F(P+dP) - F(P) are not.


""EEP", as I understand it, merely requires that the net gravitational-inertial forces
acting on any test particle locally vanish in the free-fall frame, while tidal effects can
always be locally neglected."

This last statement needs clarification. It is strictly not true. It is only a "weak field" approximation
that the tidal effects are of order (L/r)^2 where r is the local scale of radius of curvature. MTW make
this approximate nature of the remark very clear when I read them. You have misinterpreted them
as making a much stronger statement and I think this is the root of the pseudo-problem you pose.
If Einstein was a bit confused on this in the early days, I don't know, it is of no real consequence
except in the history of the evolution of the idea.

"This can be consistently interpreted in at least two different ways: (1) as the consequence
of a (local) *fundamental physical identity* of gravitational and inertial fields (Einstein, Pauli);
or (2) as merely the result of inertial compensation of the separately existing gravitational
field (Eddington et al.) in conjunction with the natural attenuation of tidal effects within
arbitrarily small neighborhoods of spacetime.

Either way , the theory remains generally covariant, and a "weak" correspondence
relationship with SR holds -- locally measurable effects that locally discriminate between
the predictions of SR ("flat" spacetime) from those of GR ("curved" spacetime) can be
regarded as practically negligible in a sufficiently small neighborhood."

Yes, in the weak field limit, but not at a black hole, which Puthoff wrongly claims does not exist.


"I would argue that a "weak" correspondence relation is all that one can reasonably
demand of the re-interpreted theory. There is in reality no "flat" spacetime *anywhere*."

Fine, that's how I read MTW anyway. Also in my theory, globally flat space-time is intrinsically
dynamically unstable from quantum electrodynamics.

"Also, it is important to understand that none of this depends on the empirical correctness of
Yilmaz's particular theory vis a vis GR."

I find Yilmaz's idea completely obscure intuitively.

"For example, the alternative approach is taken in a number of bimetric theories that agree empirically with GR. These employ a "background" metric that accounts for inertial effects in conjunction with a separate (though commensurable)
"gravitational" metric that accounts for physical gravitation."

Very ugly. Less with more.

"In the alternative interpretation, I believe the way is open to consistently defining a true
gravitational field stress-energy density, which is fully localizable, and an inertially-compensated
*net effective* stress-energy density which corresponds to the force field that is actually
measured in an accelerated frame of reference."

Show me the math otherwise the words have no meaning to me.

"This means that Mach's principle is effectively abandoned -- along with his rather loony brand
of strict empiricism (remember, Mach flatly rejected the atomic theory)."

Mach's idea re-enters in the Holographic World where

Lp* = Lp^2/3(c/H)^1/3 = 1 fermi "now".

But this may have a fatal flaw since H is cosmic time dependent in the FRW regime.

The connection for parallel transport locally vanishes in
LIF's on timelike geodesics.

"Of course it does. But we can (at least locally) distinguish between the inertial and
the gravitational *components* of the canonical connection field (distinct contributions
to the net metric gradients). That comes right out of the differential geometry (also, see e.g.
Weinberg's "Gravitation and Cosmology")."

I think I said that above.

"The changes observed in net gravitational-inertial forces under acceleration of one's frame of
reference are then viewed not *merely* as an abstract mathematical property of the laws of GR
under certain class of spacetime coordinate transformations, but also as a *real physical effect*
arising from the interaction of ponderable matter with the physical vacuum (AKA "the luminiferous
aether").

The physical vacuum is not a void! It is the mother of all particles! The Urstoff!

Non-material, yet physical...

As I understand it, this is precisely the way the electromagnetic field is treated in GR when
observed in accelerated frames -- as inertially compensated. There is in canonical GR no
question of deriving EM forces from a geometrodynamic connection field, and so we are left
(in standard GR) with inertial forces derived from an *inertial* connection field that can physically
compensate the EM forces in the EM analog of free-fall.

Of course, we then no longer have "general relativity" in Einstein's sense, since we
do not have "strict" gravitational-inertial equivalence (gravitational and inertial fields
considered fundamentally indistinguishable).

Einstein's point may then be taken as this: the non-material aether is so inextricably bound up
with empty space, that the physical effects that result from interaction of ponderable matter
with the vacuum might as well be viewed as arising from a certain kind of geometry. We then
build accelerative effects into the kinematics of our theory. From this POV, we can always
decide as an alternative approach to investigate the properties of "empty" space as properties
of a physical entity -- the vacuum -- which is to be distinguished from a void. The "void"
of Einstein with its Riemannian geometry of spacetime manifolds then appears merely as the
shadow cast by a deeper reality -- the physics of the *physical vacuum* ("ghost of the departed
aether").

However, we do still have general covariance of the laws. The strength of the gravitational field
-- and, I would argue, its associated gravitational field stress-energy density -- is then no longer
dependent on one's frame of reference, and the true gravitational stress-energy should itself then
be represented by a tensor quantity (Diff(4) world-tensor).

What *is* dependent on one's frame of reference in this alternative interpretation is the *inertial
contribution* to the net forces experienced by massive bodies. Thus the inertial stress-energy
will then obviously NOT be represented by a tensor.

So we are talking about a (local) decomposition of the Christoffel connection into its inertial
(acceleration-dependent) and gravitational (acceleration-independent) parts.

In this view, for a single gravitating mass, the "true" gravitational field is the force field that is
observed in a frame at rest with respect to the source.

In the Einstein approach, in contrast, *all* frames of reference are on an equal physical footing
("general relativity") and there is no "true" gravitational force field -- any more than there is in SR a
true inertial frame in which clocks and rods assume their "actual" properties, or a "true" electric
or magnetic field considered separately.

If the connection is not zero at a point
then one is in a LNIF at that point feeling "weight" or "g-force" on a
timelike non-geodesic world line.

Of course. None of this is disturbed by the shift of interpretation, nor by the (local)
decomposition of the connection field into its inertial and gravitational parts.

We simply make a fundamental physical distinction between inertial and gravitational forces,
while fully recognizing the close mathematical analogy between them that was pointed out by
Einstein (both are derivable from metric-tensor fields) . In the alternative paradigm, we look for
the ground of this analogy at a deeper physical level, rather than basing it on some mystic
Galilean-Platonistic faith in the reality of the "forms" presented to us at first glance by tensor
analysis and differential geometry.

In the alternative ("neo-Lorentzian") paradigm, gravitation is a physical effect that depends
on the existence of gravitating matter and its time-dependent distribution in space. Inertial
"forces", on the other hand, are separate and distinct physical effects that do not depend on
the existence of material gravitational sources but only on the accelerative interaction of
ponderable matter with the physical vacuum (and not, *contra* Mach, with other material
objects)-- as I would assume any workable field theory of quantum gravity would predict.

While the curvature tensor tidal
force between two neighboring time-like LIF geodesic observers is
small in the weak field limit it is not locally zero in general and
cannot be eliminated exactly.

But there is the awkward question of the multipole effects experienced by spinning test-particles in
Riemannian gravitational fields -- which I understand do not scale down with spacetime volume as
do tidal effects.

And of course, there is also the closely related absolute character of "spacetime curvature", by
which I mean Riemannian curvature. It's either there or it isn't. Einstein was only able to save
his "general relativity" thesis by pretending that Riemann curvature has no direct empirical
meaning -- at least locally -- thus fixing all attention on the connection field as physically "real".

That now strikes me as a classic *ad hoc* stratagem in what Imre Lakatos might have called a
"degenerating problemshift".

These kinds of questions were thoroughly thrashed out between Einstein and von Laue in the early
1920s. I believe later Einstein quietly came to accept the fact that his concept of "general relativity" had
failed.

Which raises fundamental questions about the true character and status of special relativity, since
Einstein's "theory of relativity" program required both special *and* general relativity to succeed in
order to be fully vindicated.

One could try to make a local classical
vacuum stress-energy density tensor from contracted quadratic forms of
the 4th rank curvature tensor, but then one has a field equation like

Ruv - (1/2)Rguv + /\zpfguv + Quadratic Functional of Ruvwl =
8pi(G/c^4)Tuv(matter)

The problem then is to conserve the local currents.

Wouldn't it be easier to look first at the definitions of gravitational and inertial stress-energy densities
for "flat" fields?

What is the stress-energy density of the pure inertial field (no sources)? What are its mathematical
properties?

What is the acceleration-independent gravitational field stress-energy density in the far field ("asymptotically
flat" spacetime)? What are its mathematical properties?"

Z.

I will get back to you on last half later.


Monday, November 03, 2003

Memorandum For The Record

Expanded typo corrected draft.

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 06:29 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

Now Roberto, THIS is the kind of intelligent debate you should have in "Psychic Vibrations" in
"Skeptical Inquirer." Too long have you and Frazier et-al been picking easy kooky
targets that are obviously Cargo Cult whilst ignoring the more heavy hitters on the
other side.

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:38 PM, Robert Sheaffer wrote:

Jack,

"Yes, I understand that your 'new theories' in physics do not require UFO
reports to be true. However, you have been suggesting that your theories
explain how UFOs are possible,"

Yes, indeed.

"which means that UFO reports (if true) tend
to confirm your theories."

Not quite. Sure, but I also mean my theories, not far from mainstream ideas at all mind you, dramatically increase the probabilities on the plausibility of the UFO "flying saucer" allegations, also, BTW, showing the irrelevancy of things like the Drake Eq and how they would get here - because of Star Gates and warp drives as now likely applications of "bottled" "dark energy." Mike Turner has prematurely said (April 2003 Physics Today) he does not think "dark energy" can be "bottled." We will see.

"For example, see your "Zero Point Energy Gravity
Physics Of UFOs, Star Gates, Time Travel and Parallel Brane Worlds "
(http://stardrive.org/math4/Zero%20Point%20Energy%20Gravity%20Physics.htm )"

See also my "The Next Force" published in my book "Space-Time and Beyond II" and
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
and my remarks in "Time Travel: The Art of the Possible" on Disc 2 of Paramount Pictures "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" Special Collector's Edition DVD also my appearance on "Time Travel" Ultra Science Learning Channel (with David Deutsch of Oxford) and two shows I did on "Thinking Allowed" Wisdom Channel.

"However, I cannot fathom how you can dismiss the consensus of physicists as
irrelevant."

I do not. What consensus are you talking about? How about this from a PhD physicist, in the minority, who has studied the UFO subject:

"I did some investigating and interviewed retired senior USG executives who laid the Nazi flying saucer (disguised as UFOs) claim (a la Cook's book) to rest - it didn't exist and it didn't fly."

Which is pretty much what I have also been saying about Cook's book BTW.

Do you mean for example
http://www.mkaku.org/articles/physics_of_alien_civs.shtml ?

Michio Kaku writes there about ideas quite close to my own:

"The Planck energy only occurs at the center of black holes and the instant of the Big Bang. But with recent advances in quantum gravity and superstring theory, there is renewed interest among physicists about energies so vast that quantum effects rip apart the fabric of space and time. Although it is by no means certain that quantum physics allows for stable wormholes, this raises the remote possibility that a sufficiently advanced civilizations may be able to move via holes in space, like Alice's Looking Glass. And if these civilizations can successfully navigate through stable wormholes, then attaining a specific impulse of a million seconds is no longer a problem. They merely take a short-cut through the galaxy. This would greatly cut down the transition between a Type II and Type III civilization.

Second, the ability to tear holes in space and time may come in handy one day. Astronomers, analyzing light from distant supernovas, have concluded recently that the universe may be accelerating, rather than slowing down. If this is true, there may be an anti-gravity force (perhaps Einstein's cosmological constant) which is counteracting the gravitational attraction of distant galaxies. But this also means that the universe might expand forever in a Big Chill, until temperatures approach near-absolute zero. Several papers have recently laid out what such a dismal universe may look like. It will be a pitiful sight: any civilization which survives will be desperately huddled next to the dying embers of fading neutron stars and black holes. All intelligent life must die when the universe dies."

See also Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final Hour." Martin does attack UFO Cults and Kooks in his book and rightly so, but not all scientists and scholars researching UFOs are in that category.

Also WHEN? Furthermore, the fact is that MOST physicists have not bothered to really investigate the
UFO data professionally and, therefore, their opinions on the subject are not to be taken at face value. Physicists also jump on the latest fashions and many are in fear of losing their jobs if they express radical opinions. Peer pressure is very strong to be "respectable" and not take chances. Furthermore, many physicists are not at all familiar with the facts of the new cosmology and have not yet thought deeply of the implications of "dark energy", the stuff is too new. Also, I am privy to some general information from deep in the USG intelligence community that most physicists are not privy to. Whether that information is true or not is another matter. However as my own work evolves the probability that it is true is increasing rather than decreasing. Remember I was started on this quest 50 years ago in a project headed by Eugene McDermott. Do some homework and find out who he was in the scheme of things in WWII and later and who his cronies were.

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:4FXg10gfPIgJ:mindcontrolforums.com/hamboneplaces.html+%22Jack+Sarfatti%22+%2B+%22the+aviary%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

See also "The Star Gate Conspiracy" by Picknett & Prince and
"The Cosmic Trigger" by Robert Anton Wilson as well as my book "Destiny Matrix" and Martin Gardner's
"Magic and Paraphysics" in "Science, Good, Bad and Bogus"
and http://www.uri-geller.com/books/geller-papers/g18.htm
Also Ron McRae's "Mind Wars" and Jim Schnabel's "Remote Viewing: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies"
and for broad historical background Erik Davis's "Techgnosis" which in novel form is seen in the genre of "The Da Vinci Code" and "Foucault's Pendulum" for example.

In short whatever The Game is, there are a lot of players.

"Indeed, nothing could possibly be *more* relevant to a
scientific theory - that is the process science uses to separate the wheat
from the chaff."

Vague generalities. I have specifics in my e.g.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

I am all for separating the wheat from the chaff. That's exactly what I do in my book "Space-Time and Beyond II" with the claims of Puthoff and Haisch on the same subject of vacuum zero point energy that we are talking about here. I welcome detailed refutations etc. of my specific technical points by qualified competent people.

"Of course, this process takes some time to operate, but a
few years is probably enough. As I said earlier, when your 'new physics'
theories are written up favorably in a publication such as Nature or
Science, then I will take them very seriously. Until that happens, my
assumption is that they are probably not correct."

It's too bad you are not able to think critically on these matters for yourself, but must blindly rely on The Pundits.
Mainstream physics, science in general, is ultra-conservative and rightly so. I support that conservatism. What
you are saying is that you are irrelevant to The Game. Intellectual honesty would demand that you then say
that you have no opinion, but are sitting on the fence when it comes to basic issues of physics in regard to
UFOs. The situation has changed dramatically in past 2 years or so. This is the point. Now you can stick your
head in the sand and be in denial. Your choice. I welcome competent professional rebuttal of my specifics BTW.


"Prof. Littelton is insisting that we must naievely accept eyewitness UFO
claims at face value, which goes against everything that psychology has
learned about the unreliability and malleability of human memory (as well as
what we all know about the human propensity to exaggerate and fabricate). If
he is right, then we must also accept accounts of witches flying on
broomsticks and changing into animals. In any case, the fireball of Dec. 9,
1965 was amply documented by science, carefully studied, and published in
scientific journals. Just because somebody claims, with no proof whatsoever,
that it zigzagged around and that MJ-12 or whoever turned up to confiscate
it, we do not throw out a perfectly good, reasonable explanation for an
exciting but unproven and unreasonable one. Except in the Universe of
UFOlogy (one of the many worlds of physics, no doubt, but a peculiarly wacky
one)."

Robert Sheaffer - roberto@debunker.com - Skeptical to the Max!

Visit the Debunker's Domain - http://www.debunker.com
Resources Debunking All Manner of Bogus Claims
Also: Skepticism / Astronomy / Opera / more


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Sarfatti"
To: "Scott Littleton"
Cc: "Robert Sheaffer" ; "Rosanne C Losee"
; "Richard Dolan" ; "Don
Ecker"
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Skeptical Inquirer's UFO debunking

Note I correct a typo below in the original.

My point in all of this as summarized in my semi-popular SLS talk in
Austin Oct 24, 2003

http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

does not depend on any particular alleged UFO contact incident like the
interesting one you describe below.

The probabilities have changed drastically since 1999 Type 1a
supernovae data that ~ 70% of all the large scale "stuff" of the
Universe's past light cone of our detectors is in the form of a "dark
energy" anti-gravity field of powerful negative pressure that began to
accelerate the expansion rate of the universe about half way though its
history to now, i.e. about 7 billion years ago. This dark energy is
the same as Kip Thorne's "exotic matter" in his 1986 Star Gate paper
and it is the same stuff needed for Alcubierre's weightless warp drive
metric of the early 1990's and it is the same "negative matter" needed
for exotic propulsion that British Ministry of Defense Chief Scientist
Herman Bondi told us Cornell students about in ~ 1960 that Stalin's top
physics Spy Master Y. Terletskii was also very keen on.

Now Roberto you can easily check the specifics of what I say in the above paragraph.


One need not be a rocket scientist to connect these dots! Any Gum Shoe
can see the pattern here. :-)

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Scott Littleton wrote:

"If what happened near Kecksburg, PA, on December 9, 1965, was the
result of a "fireball," it was certainly a most peculiar one. I've
never heard of a fireball that maneuvered, changed course, slowed
down, and came in for a landing, nor one that immediately attracted
the military, a tight security cordon, and mean-faced guys wearing
long black overcoats who intimidated witnesses. But then it seems
that anything is possible when it comes to the wacky-worldview of
knee-jerk debunking. Or does your highly public take on this and
other UFO-related phenomena perhaps reflect a commitment to the
cynical, pseudo-patriotic, and thoroughly "black" world of
Government-sponsored disinformation?"

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
FAX (323) 982-0264
http://www.oxy.edu/~yokatta/home.htm

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 05:07 PM, rc-losee@carolina.rr.com wrote:

Whatever the real happenstance, it remains that the UFO phenomenon is patently real and substantial. Even disregarding the thousands of UFO witnesses worldwide who can testify to their reality, we can still refer to the hundreds of close encounters by UFOs on military and airline pilots. There is a wealth of material at hand for anyone truly interested. I refer here to narcap.org for a start.

Many of these pilot encounters (not just mere sightings, but planes being dogged and tailed and manipulated by UFOs in close proximity) are backed up with radar reports. The real incident of a massive influx of UFOs on radar screens over DC back in the 50's is amply documented.

The truth is that there is plenty of real UFO data at hand. Then there are the thousands of UFO unclassified docs from the alphabet soup of gov agencies.

The other truth is that these so-called "skeptics" are really playing hard and fast with the *some-all* policy (if some of the data is erroneous, then all of it is). As Dr. Jacques Vallee so articulately said, many skeptics will pick and choose among the wealth of data, choose one piece that is particuarly cumbersome, pounce on it, pontificate loudly, and use it as an shining example that all UFO data is worthless. A psychologist would have a field day with this.

Yes, there is some data that needs to be re-analzyed and possibly omitted. Does it mean that all data is useless? .

In the end the only useful question to ask anyone who submits a theory to what it could be, or not be, is rather whether they are well up on their UFO material. In the vast amount out there, the more one reads, the more one is compelled to read. Not the reverse. Ignoring the data might carry a real risk. RCL

Well said, balanced by I think a research librarian who has studied the data.


Now Roberto, THIS is the kind of intelligent debate you should have in "Psychic Vibrations" in
Skeptical Inquirer. Too long have you and Frazier et-al been picking easy kooky
targets that are obviously Cargo Cult whilst ignoring the more heavy hitters on the
other side.

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:38 PM, Robert Sheaffer wrote:

Jack,

Yes, I understand that your 'new theories' in physics do not require UFO
reports to be true. However, you have been suggesting that your theories
explain how UFOs are possible,

Yes, indeed.

which means that UFO reports (if true) tend
to confirm your theories.

Not quite. I mean my theories, not far from mainstream ideas at all mind, dramatically shift the probabilities on the plausibility of the UFO "flying saucer"
allegations also, BTW, showing the irrelevancy of things like the Drake Eq and how they would get here - because of Star Gates and warp drives as now likely applications of "bottled" "dark energy." Mike Turner has prematurely said (April 2003 Physics Today) he does not think "dark energy" can be "bottled." We will see.

For example, see your "Zero Point Energy Gravity
Physics Of UFOs, Star Gates, Time Travel and Parallel Brane Worlds "
(http://stardrive.org/math4/Zero%20Point%20Energy%20Gravity%20Physics.htm )

See also my "The Next Force" published in my book "Space-Time and Beyond II" and
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov
and my remarks in "Time Travel: The Art of the Possible" on Disc 2 of Paramount Pictures "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" Special Collector's Edition DVD also
my appearance on "Time Travel" Ultra Science Learning Channel (with David Deutsch of Oxford) and two shows I did on "Thinking Allowed" Wisdom Channel.

However, I cannot fathom how you can dismiss the consensus of physicists as
irrelevant.

I do not. What consensus are you talking about? How about this from a PhD physicist, in the minority, who has studied the UFO subject:

"I did some investigating and interviewed retired senior USG executives who laid the Nazi flying saucer (disguised as UFOs) claim (a la Cook's book) to rest - it didn't exist and it didn't fly."

Which is pretty much what I have also been saying about Cook's book BTW.

Do you mean for example
http://www.mkaku.org/articles/physics_of_alien_civs.shtml ?
Also WHEN? Furthermore, the fact is that MOST physicists have not bothered to really investigate the
UFO data professionally and, therefore, their opinions on the subject are not to be taken at face value. Physicists also jump on the latest fashions any many are in fear of losing their jobs if they express radical opinions. Peer pressure is very strong to be "respectable" and not take chances. Furthermore, many physicists are not at all familiar with the facts of the new cosmology and have not yet thought deeply of the implications of "dark energy", the stuff is too new. Also, I am privy to some general information from deep in the USG intelligence community that most physicists are not privy to. Whether that information is true or not is another matter. However as my own work evolves the probability that it is true is increasing rather than decreasing. Remember I was started on this quest 50 years ago in a project headed by Eugene McDermott. Do some homework and find out who he was in the scheme of things in WWII and later and who his cronies were.
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:4FXg10gfPIgJ:mindcontrolforums.com/hambone places.html+%22Jack+Sarfatti%22+%2B+%22the+aviary%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

See also "The Star Gate Conspiracy" by Picknett & Prince and
"The Cosmic Trigger" by Robert Anton Wilson as well as my book "Destiny Matrix" and Martin Gardner's
"Magic and Paraphysics" in "Science, Good, Bad and Bogus"
and http://www.uri-geller.com/books/geller-papers/g18.htm
Also Ron McRae's "Mind Wars" and Jim Schnabel's "Remote Viewing: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies"
and for broad historical background Erik Davis's "Techgnosis" which in novel form is seen in the genre of "The Da Vinci Code" and "Foucault's Pendulum" for example. "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" had the theme of "The Da Vinci Code" more than 20 years ago and mentions my namesake "Solomon ha Zarfati" AKA
Rashi de Troyes (1040 - 1105) and his relation to the Military Commander of The First Crusade, the consequent evolution of the Knights Templar and the alleged Priory de Sion or Zion that Carlo Suares seems to have been a member of. See my 1975 book "Space-Time and Beyond" with Wolf and Toben. Wolf won American Book Award in 1982 for "Taking The Quantum Leap". Suares mentions me and Wolf in his book "The Sephira Yetsira". See my book "Destiny Matrix" for more details.

In short whatever The Game is, there are a lot of players.

Indeed, nothing could possibly be *more* relevant to a
scientific theory - that is the process science uses to separate the wheat
from the chaff.

Vague generalities. I have specifics in my e.g.
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

I am all for separating the wheat from the chaff. That's exactly what I do in my book "Space-Time and Beyond II" with the claims of Puthoff and Haisch on the same subjects zero point energy we are talking about here. I welcome detailed refutations etc of my specific technical points by qualified competent people.

"Of course, this process takes some time to operate, but a
few years is probably enough. As I said earlier, when your 'new physics'
theories are written up favorably in a publication such as Nature or
Science, then I will take them very seriously. Until that happens, my
assumption is that they are probably not correct."

It's too bad you are not able to think critically on these matters for yourself, but must blindly rely on the Pundits.
Mainstream physics, science in general, is ultra-conservative and rightly so. I support that conservatism. What
you are saying is that you are irrelevant to the game. Intellectual honesty would demand that you then say
that you have no opinion, but are sitting on the fence when it comes to basic issues of physics in regard to
UFOs. The situation has changed dramatically in past 2 years or so. This is the point. Now you can stick your
head in the sand and be in denial. Your choice. I welcome competent professional rebuttal of my specifics BTW.


"Prof. Littelton is insisting that we must naievely accept eyewitness UFO
claims at face value, which goes against everything that psychology has
learned about the unreliability and malleability of human memory (as well as
what we all know about the human propensity to exaggerate and fabricate). If
he is right, then we must also accept accounts of witches flying on
broomsticks and changing into animals. In any case, the fireball of Dec. 9,
1965 was amply documented by science, carefully studied, and published in
scientific journals. Just because somebody claims, with no proof whatsoever,
that it zigzagged around and that MJ-12 or whoever turned up to confiscate
it, we do not throw out a perfectly good, reasonable explanation for an
exciting but unproven and unreasonable one. Except in the Universe of
UFOlogy (one of the many worlds of physics, no doubt, but a peculiarly wacky
one)."

Robert Sheaffer - roberto@debunker.com - Skeptical to the Max!

Visit the Debunker's Domain - http://www.debunker.com
Resources Debunking All Manner of Bogus Claims
Also: Skepticism / Astronomy / Opera / more


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Sarfatti"
To: "Scott Littleton"
Cc: "Robert Sheaffer" ; "Rosanne C Losee"
; "Richard Dolan" ; "Don
Ecker"
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Skeptical Inquirer's UFO debunking

Note I correct a typo below in the original.

My point in all of this as summarized in my semi-popular SLS talk in
Austin Oct 24, 2003

http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

does not depend on any particular alleged UFO contact incident like the
interesting one you describe below.

The probabilities have changed drastically since 1999 Type 1a
supernovae data that ~ 70% of all the large scale "stuff" of the
Universe's past light cone of our detectors is in the form of a "dark
energy" anti-gravity field of powerful negative pressure that began to
accelerate the expansion rate of the universe about half way though its
history to now, i.e. about 7 billion years ago. This dark energy is
the same as Kip Thorne's "exotic matter" in his 1986 Star Gate paper
and it is the same stuff needed for Alcubierre's weightless warp drive
metric of the early 1990's and it is the same "negative matter" needed
for exotic propulsion that British Ministry of Defense Chief Scientist
Herman Bondi told us Cornell students about in ~ 1960 that Stalin's top
physics Spy Master Y. Terletskii was also very keen on.

Now Roberto you can easily check the specifics of what I say in the above paragraph.


One need not be a rocket scientist to connect these dots! Any Gum Shoe
can see the pattern here. :-)

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Scott Littleton wrote:

"If what happened near Kecksburg, PA, on December 9, 1965, was the
result of a "fireball," it was certainly a most peculiar one. I've
never heard of a fireball that maneuvered, changed course, slowed
down, and came in for a landing, nor one that immediately attracted
the military, a tight security cordon, and mean-faced guys wearing
long black overcoats who intimidated witnesses. But then it seems
that anything is possible when it comes to the wacky-worldview of
knee-jerk debunking. Or does your highly public take on this and
other UFO-related phenomena perhaps reflect a commitment to the
cynical, pseudo-patriotic, and thoroughly "black" world of
Government-sponsored disinformation?"

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
FAX (323) 982-0264
http://www.oxy.edu/~yokatta/home.htm

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 05:07 PM, rc-losee@carolina.rr.com wrote:

Whatever the real happenstance, it remains that the UFO phenomenon is patently real and substantial. Even disregarding the thousands of UFO witnesses worldwide who can testify to their reality, we can still refer to the hundreds of close encounters by UFOs on military and airline pilots. There is a wealth of material at hand for anyone truly interested. I refer here to narcap.org for a start.

Many of these pilot encounters (not just mere sightings, but planes being dogged and tailed and manipulated by UFOs in close proximity) are backed up with radar reports. The real incident of a massive influx of UFOs on radar screens over DC back in the 50's is amply documented.

The truth is that there is plenty of real UFO data at hand. Then there are the thousands of UFO unclassified docs from the alphabet soup of gov agencies.

The other truth is that these so-called "skeptics" are really playing hard and fast with the *some-all* policy (if some of the data is erroneous, then all of it is). As Dr. Jacques Vallee so articulately said, many skeptics will pick and choose among the wealth of data, choose one piece that is particuarly cumbersome, pounce on it, pontificate loudly, and use it as an shining example that all UFO data is worthless. A psychologist would have a field day with this.

Yes, there is some data that needs to be re-analzyed and possibly omitted. Does it mean that all data is useless? .

In the end the only useful question to ask anyone who submits a theory to what it could be, or not be, is rather whether they are well up on their UFO material. In the vast amount out there, the more one reads, the more one is compelled to read. Not the reverse. Ignoring the data might carry a real risk. RCL

Well said, balanced by I think a research librarian who has studied the data.


My point in all of this as summarized in my semi-popular SLS talk in Austin Oct 24, 2003
http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

does not depend on any particular alleged UFO contact incident like the interesting one you describe below.

The probabilities have changed drastically since 1999 Type 1a supernovae data that ~ 70% of all the large scale "stuff" of the Universe's past light cone of our detectors is in the form of a "dark energy" anti-gravity field of powerful negative pressure that began to accelerate the expansion rate of the universe about half way though its history to now, i.e. about 7 billion years ago. This dark energy is the same as Kip Thorne's "exotic matter" in his 1986 Star Gate paper and it is the same stuff needed for Alcubierre's weightless warp drive metric of the early 1990's and it is the same "negative matter" needed for exotic propulsion that British Ministry of Defense Chief Scientist Herman Bondi told us Cornell students about in ~ 1960 that Stalin's top physics Spy Master Y. Terletskii was also very keen on.

One need not be a rocket scientist to connect these dots! Any Gum Shoe and see the pattern here. :-)

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Scott Littleton wrote:

If what happened near Kecksburg, PA, on December 9, 1965, was the result of a "fireball," it was certainly a most peculiar one. I've never heard of a fireball that maneuvered, changed course, slowed down, and came in for a landing, nor one that immediately attracted the military, a tight security cordon, and mean-faced guys wearing long black overcoats who intimidated witnesses. But then it seems that anything is possible when it comes to the wacky-worldview of knee-jerk debunking. Or does your highly public take on this and other UFO-related phenomena perhaps reflect a commitment to the cynical, pseudo-patriotic, and thoroughly "black" world of Government-sponsored disinformation?

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
FAX (323) 982-0264
http://www.oxy.edu/~yokatta/home.htm

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Sheaffer [mailto:roberto@debunker.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 2:37 PM
To: Scott Littleton; Jack Sarfatti
Cc: Rosanne C Losee; Richard Dolan; Don Ecker
Subject: Re: ppt & UFO debunking

Prof. Littleton agrees that the available UFO evidence is "soft," but thinks
that the intelligence agencies have squirrelled away some "hard" evidence
from supposed crashes at Roswell and Kecksburg. The Roswell crash yarns have
been quite effectively debunked by Pflock, Klass, and others, I have nothing
to add. As for Kecksburg, is he truly unaware that this "crashing UFO " was
simply a fable spun from confusion over the great fireball meteor of
December 9, 1965? See my web page debunking this at
http://www.debunker.com/kecksburg.html . Truly a house of cards. You UFO
believers are *so easily* fooled.

And on such trivia are new scientific theories to be built??????

Robert Sheaffer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Littleton"
To: "Jack Sarfatti" ; "Robert Sheaffer"

Cc: "Rosanne C Losee" ; "Richard Dolan"
; "Don Ecker"
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: ppt & UFO debunking


Hi Jack,

Let me take a moment away from the TV, where we've been watching the
progress of the horrendous local fires and hoping they don't come any closer
to Pasadena, to comment on Robert Sheaffer's recent comment that "It is
exceedingly unlikely that UFOs... are real entities, they are mostly due to
'random errors' occurring in the human perceptual and social-belief
formation system. There is noise in every information channel, and our
society has agreed to describe a certain kind of that noise as "UFOs."
While we may argue about their origin and purpose, it has long since become
abundantly clear that what we call "UFOs" are not simply "noise." Unless
the thousands of internally consistent reports by credible witnesses,
including abductees, are some form of mass hallucination, these phenomena
clearly have an objective existence. Moreover, as a student of comparative
mythology and folklore, I can firmly attest that the patterns reported by
contemporary witnesses and "experiencers" jibe remarkably well with
pre-modern accounts of "flying shields," abductions to "fairy-land" by short
creatures with big eyes and pointed, "elfin" chins, missing-time episodes,
and rides in "flying wheels" a la Ezekiel's famous trip.

To ignore all this evidence, "soft" though it most of it may be (although I
strongly suspect that despite a half-century of stonewalling, some members
of the U.S. and other intelligence communities-the CIA, MI6, the old KGB,
etc.-have in their possession an abundance of "hard" evidence garnered from
Roswell, Kecksburg, and other UFO crash sites), is to wallow in a state of
denial so all-embracing that it beggars the imagination. Or do debunkers
like Sheaffer, Oberg, Klass, and the rest have another, more devious agenda,
that is, to further the Government's long-standing policy of keeping the lid
on by systematically ridiculing those of us who suspect the truth about this
phenomenon, all the while being privy to above-top-secret knowledge that
would prove us right? One wonders....

All best wishes &

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
TEL (323) 255-5477
FAX (323) 982-0264
http://www.oxy.edu/~yokatta/home.htm

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke

"I think we're property. . ."
--Charles Fort

Sunday, November 02, 2003

The MTW argument against Yilmaz is simply that one cannot make a local classical vacuum pure gravity stress-energy density tensor from the
torsion-free non tensor connection without violating the equivalence principle. The connection for parallel transport locally vanishes in
LIF's on timelike geodesics. If the connection is not zero at a point then one is in a LNIF at that point feeling "weight" or "g-force" on a
timelike non-geodesic world line. While the curvature tensor tidal force between two neighboring time-like LIF geodesic observers is
small in the weak field limit it is not locally zero in general and cannot be eliminated exactly. One could try to make a local classical
vacuum stress-energy density tensor from contracted quadratic forms of the 4th rank curvature tensor, but then one has a field equation like

Ruv - (1/2)Rguv + /\zpfguv + Quadratic Functional of Ruvwl = 8pi(G/c^4)Tuv(matter)

The problem then is to conserve the local currents.

Puthoff's "PV" model seems to be equivalent to a Yilmaz model or so
Puthoff seems to say.

/\zpf is from zero point fluctuations of the quantum matter fields

with an equation of state w = -1, w = pressure/energy density

Source of gravity in GR in weak curvature limit is

(G/c^2)[energy density + 3pressure)= G(mass density)(1 + 3w)

w = 0 for NR on mass shell matter.

w = 1/3 for real on light cone photons in far field giving Einstein's
famous factor of 2 in gravity lensing that is twice Newton's prediction.

Virtual Dirac electron-positron pairs have negative zero point vacuum polarization energy density with positive zero point pressure.

Virtual photons have positive zero point energy density with negative
zero point pressure.
General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology, abstract
gr-qc/0204062
From: visser@tui.wustl.edu (Matt Visser)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 02:33:15 GMT (19kb)

Sakharov's induced gravity: a modern perspective
Authors: Matt Visser (Washington University in Saint Louis)
Comments: mpla.sty; 17 pages. Contribution to the ``First IUCAA Meeting on the Interface of Gravitational and Quantum Realms'', held in Pune in December 2001. To appear in Modern Physics Letters A
Journal-ref: Mod.Phys.Lett. A17 (2002) 977-992
Sakharov's 1967 notion of ``induced gravity'' is currently enjoying a significant resurgence. The basic idea, originally presented in a very brief 3-page paper with a total of 4 formulas, is that gravity is not ``fundamental'' in the sense of particle physics. Instead it was argued that gravity (general relativity) emerges from quantum field theory in roughly the same sense that hydrodynamics or continuum elasticity theory emerges from molecular physics. In this article I will translate the key ideas into modern language, and explain the various versions of Sakharov's idea currently on the market.

Full-text: PostScript ,PDF , or Other formats
On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 11:14 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


Corrected 4th Draft

This version corrects a minor typo in the torsion field equation in the 2nd draft. Also adds a factor of charge e to the toy model IT FROM BIT mind-matter equation.

re: http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

Paramount Pictures DVD Special Collector's Edition "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" Disk 2 "Time Travel: The Art of the Possible"

See also for background information:
"Mind Wars" by Ron Mc Crae

"Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies" Jim Schnabel

"Techgnosis" by Erik Davis

Even "The Da Vinci Code" and "Foucault's Pendulum" as well as Robert Anton Wilson's "The Cosmic Trigger."

Do not forget the alleged mind-control psychotronic aspects of the UFO phenomenon that Jacques Vallee over-emphasizes to the exclusion of the nuts and bolts dimension of the advanced military exotic vacuum "Dark Energy" super-technology. See Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final Hour."

The book by Jane's Defence Weekly Nick Cook "Hunt For The Zero Point" is total mis and dis-information in my humble opinion. Furthermore, the two theoretical approaches to the zero point energy by Hal Puthoff and Bernie Haisch are off on the wrong track have not (for 10 years) and will not lead to any useful results. My two books "Destiny Matrix" and "Space-Time and Beyond II" explain why in some detail. The basic flaw is that Puthoff, Haisch & SED Company do not have the slightest notion of "More is different" "vacuum coherence". Furthermore, they do not include the primary vacuum polarization zero point energy. The random virtual photons make only a small effect in my opinion. Lastly Puthoff completely misinterprets the physical meaning of his r-coordinate in his PV SSS toy model, which in any case does not solve any important problems.

Note some minor typographical corrections to the macro-quantum geometrodynamical equations for the metric engineering of Star Gate Time Travel Machines and Weightless FTL Warp Drives that underlie the physics of the alleged UFO super-technology ... Here are the basic mind-matter "psychotronic" equations followed by the basic metric engineering Star Gate Warp Drive equations used by the alleged "ET Aliens."

On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 05:13 AM, Mitchell Porter wrote:


On this topic of gravitational instantons:

I think it's fair to say that an instanton is just quantum tunneling by
another name (i.e. as represented by an imaginary-time path integral,
see hep-ph/0009136). I don't understand the details, but I think
Jack's theory (building on Sakharov's ideas, see Visser's exposition in
gr-qc/0204062) is that the gravitational metric is a "local order parameter"
of the QED vacuum.

Thanks. My emergent "More is different" gravity + Dark energy/matter work is independent of Visser's. I need to take a look. Does Visser also get the dark energy/matter? Remember I get BOTH gravity and unified exotic vacuum w = -1 dark energy/matter fields from phase and amplitude modulation respectively of the local negentropic vacuum coherence order parameter. It's like FM and AM radio on the Cosmic Channel. :-)

I'd point out that there is a whole quantum-mind
"school" according to which memories are encoded in inequivalent
QED vacuum domains (most recent paper, q-bio.OT/0309009). Again,
I don't understand the details; when they talk about different QED
"vacua", I get the impression that they mean different "effective field
theories", corresponding to different states of a complex condensed
matter system (such as the brain).

It would be nice if they clarified what they mean.
Yes, in my theory the conscious mind field is such a macro-quantum coherent local BIT order parameter in "two-way relation" with IT electrical signals, chemical messengers etc.. The latter are like a heavy ball rolling on a rubbery landscape in a spontaneously self-organizing loop.

IT FROM BIT + BIT FROM IT = POST-QUANTUM CONSCIOUS SYSTEM with signal nonlocality (presponse)

IT FROM BIT alone is an UNCONSCIOUS quantum systems with signal locality

Nonetheless, speculating further, one can imagine that conscious
cognition consists of quantum jumps rearranging the QED domain
structure of the brain, and that these jumps admit of an ADE
classification, with different classes of instanton corresponding to
different cognitive primitives. (Here I'm thinking of AI researcher
Ben Goertzel's attempt to model thought using the octonions -
http://www.goertzel.org/dynapsyc/1996/consalg.html - and of
the "octonionic gravitational instantons" of hep-th/9810042.)
And of course, our best candidate for the precise location of
these alleged tunneling events is the cytoskeleton (see parts 5-7
of http://cogprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/archive/00003137/).

c^4/G(Newton) = 10^19 Gev per 10^-33 cm

this is much too stiff for anything in our low energy world - certainly not consciousness of a few millielectron volts per micron perhaps.

That's all quite a tower of cards, but a lot of the ingredients
do seem to be there for something like the original "Orch OR"
model.

The basic mind-matter equations are something like:

IT FROM BIT = d(x) = e(Area)Gradient of Goldstone Phase of the Local Macro-Quantum Conscious Mind Field PSI

d(x) = Frohlich electric dipole moment distribution of the 10^18 hydrophobically caged electron qubit switches (see Penrose "Shadows of the Mind" on Hameroff's picture).

BIT FROM IT = Landau-Ginzburg Equation for mental field PSI whose Mexican Hat Potential depends on d(x).


From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 9:15:35 PM US/Pacific
To: "Paola Harris"
Subject: Reality, Physics, UFOs


On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 02:37 PM, Robert Sheaffer who writes "Psychic Vibrations" in "Skeptical Inquirer" wrote:

"Prof. Littleton agrees that the available UFO evidence is "soft," but thinks that the intelligence agencies have squirrelled away some "hard" evidence from supposed crashes at Roswell and Kecksburg. The Roswell crash yarns have been quite effectively debunked by Pflock, Klass, and others, I have nothing to add. As for Kecksburg, is he truly unaware that this "crashing UFO " was simply a fable spun from confusion over the great fireball meteor of December 9, 1965? See my web page debunking this at
http://www.debunker.com/kecksburg.html .
Truly a house of cards. You UFO
believers are *so easily* fooled.

And on such trivia are new scientific theories to be built??????"

I replied to Sheaffer's Straw Man tactic:

You seem to continually misunderstand that my physics theories in

http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

are not motivated by the above incidents you mention. Indeed, this is the first I even heard of "Kecksburg".

Again I say for the Nth time, the motivations of my theory are:

I. In elementary particle physics

I.1 Stability of the electron (Abraham, Becker, Lorentz ~ 1900)

Electron as extended object at e^2/mc^ ~ 10^-13 cm does not explode from Coulomb self-replusion.

I.2 Universal slope of Regge trajectories of hadronic resonances as Kerr-Newmann micro-geons in strong short range gravity (my work of 1973 that caused Abdus Salam to invite me to Trieste).

1.3 Electron and quarks look more and more pointlike ~ 10^-18 cm for high-energy deep probes.

II Astrophysics - The Blackett Effect (see papers by Saul-Paul Sirag including one in NATURE)

i.e. Effective "charge" of many rotating astrophysical objects that seem to obey

Effective Electrical Circulating Charge Making Magnetic Moment = G(Newton)^1/2 (Mass of Object)

III. Hermann Bondi's "negative matter propulsion" talk at Cornell ~ 1960 when he was Chief Scientist of the British Ministry of Defense.

This timelike geodesic pre-Alcubierre "warp drive" uses both positive and negative "matter" configurations. The "negative matter" (i.e. strong negative pressure with w less than -1/3 note w = -1 for zero point fluctuations) is what Kip Thorne called "exotic matter" in his 1986 "Contact" (Sagan) traversable wormhole "Star Gate" paper with his Cal Tech students.

Made more interesting by fact that Uncle Joe Stalin's Los Alamos Physics Spy Master Y. Terletskii, Bondi's Soviet Doppelganger, worked on same problem as noted by defense physicist Robert Forward in early 1990's.

IV. The New Precision Cosmology

The new anti-gravity "dark energy" + gravitating "dark matter" form 96% of the stuff of the universe that is not in the form of real on-mass-shell particles, but is obviously an exotic "virtual" off-mass-shell macro-quantum vacuum coherence effect IMHO.

My new equations for this are:

(Exotic Vacuum Zero Point Energy Density) = (String Tension)(Effective Planck Area)^-1[1 - (Effective Planck Volume)|Vacuum Coherence Field|^2]

A positive LHS is anti-gravity "dark energy" with dominating negative pressure.

A negative LHS is gravitating "dark matter" with dominating positive pressure.

The Einstein source of gravity is ~ (G/c^2)(Energy Density + 3Pressure)

Where Energy Density = - Pressure

for zero point fluctuations from

Einstein's Equivalence Principle + Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

Vacuum Coherence Field = (Higgs Amplitude Field)e^i(Goldstone Phase Field)

from dynamical instability of globally flat spacetime vacuum of quantum electrodynamics.

Where Einstein's 1915 geometrodynamic field guv is simply Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" or Hagen Kleinert's "world crystal lattice strain tensor" that obeys the Bohm pilot wave IT FROM BIT constraint

(Geometrodynamics of smooth curved space-time) = guv = Flat Space-Time + (Effective Planck Area)(Goldstone Phase Field)(,u,v)

Where (,u,v) is the symmetrized mixed second order ordinary partial derivatives.

Torsion field = (Effective Planck Area)(Goldstone Phase Field)[,u,v]

where [ ] is the anti-symmetrizer

The non-gravitating "classical vacuum" has

(Exotic Vacuum Zero Point Energy Density) = - (Zero Point Pressure) = 0

corresponding at large scale of the adaptive windowed "Wavelet Transform" to a

Vanishing Einstein Cosmological Constant /\ = 0 in the FRW metric post-inflationary metric where

Vacuum Coherence Field limits to Chaotic Inflation Field in sense of Max Tegmark's "Parallel Universes"

of May 2003 Scientific American.

Equilibrium Vacuum Coherence Field = (Effective Planck Volume)^-1 =

Exotic Vacuum Energy Density from a Taylor Series Expansion about

That may correspond to locally gauging the NONLINEAR "special conformal transformations" of the 15 parameter SU(2,2) conformal group for Minkowski space-time using the 10 parameter Poincare sub-group.

That is maybe the unified exotic vacuum dark energy/matter field is the compensating gauge field of these special conformal transformations that would be macro-quantum coherent squeezed states of Tony Smith's "conformal gravitons" from modulating the Higgs amplitude of the Vacuum Coherence. Einstein's "gravitons" cohere in the modulation of the Goldstone phase of the Vacuum Coherence?


Saturday, November 01, 2003

PRESS RELEASE

re: http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

Paramount Pictures DVD Special Collector's Edition "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" Disk 2 "Time Travel: The Art of the Possible"

Do not forget the alleged mind-control psychotronic aspects of the UFO phenomenon that Jacques Vallee over-emphasizes to the exclusion of the nuts and bolts dimension of the advanced military exotic vacuum "Dark Energy" super-technology. See Chapter 9 of Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final Hour."

The book by Jane's Defence Weekly Nick Cook "Hunt For The Zero Point" is total mis and dis-information in my humble opinion as is also the two theoretical approaches to the zero point energy by Hal Puthoff and Bernie Haisch. My two books "Destiny Matrix" and "Space-Time and Beyond II" tell why in some detail.

Note some minor typographical corrections to the macro-quantum geometrodynamical equations for the metric engineering of Star Gate Time Travel Machines and Weightless FTL Warp Drives that underlie the physics of UFO super-technology that I was put to work on in 1954 at the age of 14 in a USG Project headed by Eugene Mc Dermott a co-founder of Texas Instruments and a high level Defense Intelligence Honcho since WWII. This project was run out of Columbia University via Professor William Sheldon and his assistant Walter Breen primarily. See "The Star Gate Conspiracy" by Picknett & Prince for background info.

Here are the basic mind-matter "psychotronic" equations followed by the basic metric engineering Star Gate Warp Drive equations used by the alleged "ET Aliens."

Mission Accomplished. It took 50 years mind you.

On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 05:13 AM, Mitchell Porter wrote:


On this topic of gravitational instantons:

I think it's fair to say that an instanton is just quantum tunneling by
another name (i.e. as represented by an imaginary-time path integral,
see hep-ph/0009136). I don't understand the details, but I think
Jack's theory (building on Sakharov's ideas, see Visser's exposition in
gr-qc/0204062) is that the gravitational metric is a "local order parameter"
of the QED vacuum.

Thanks. My emergent "More is different" gravity + Dark energy/matter work is independent of Visser's. I need to take a look. Does Visser also get the dark energy/matter? Remember I get BOTH gravity and unified exotic vacuum w = -1 dark energy/matter fields from phase and amplitude modulation respectively of the local negentropic vacuum coherence order parameter. It's like FM and AM radio on the Cosmic Channel. :-)

I'd point out that there is a whole quantum-mind
"school" according to which memories are encoded in inequivalent
QED vacuum domains (most recent paper, q-bio.OT/0309009). Again,
I don't understand the details; when they talk about different QED
"vacua", I get the impression that they mean different "effective field
theories", corresponding to different states of a complex condensed
matter system (such as the brain).

It would be nice if they clarified what they mean.
Yes, in my theory the conscious mind field is such a macro-quantum coherent local BIT order parameter in "two-way relation" with IT electrical signals, chemical messengers etc.. The latter are like a heavy ball rolling on a rubbery landscape in a spontaneously self-organizing loop.

IT FROM BIT + BIT FROM IT = POST-QUANTUM CONSCIOUS SYSTEM with signal nonlocality (presponse)

IT FROM BIT alone is an UNCONSCIOUS quantum systems with signal locality

Nonetheless, speculating further, one can imagine that conscious
cognition consists of quantum jumps rearranging the QED domain
structure of the brain, and that these jumps admit of an ADE
classification, with different classes of instanton corresponding to
different cognitive primitives. (Here I'm thinking of AI researcher
Ben Goertzel's attempt to model thought using the octonions -
http://www.goertzel.org/dynapsyc/1996/consalg.html - and of
the "octonionic gravitational instantons" of hep-th/9810042.)
And of course, our best candidate for the precise location of
these alleged tunneling events is the cytoskeleton (see parts 5-7
of http://cogprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/archive/00003137/).

c^4/G(Newton) = 10^19 Gev per 10^-33 cm

this is much too stiff for anything in our low energy world - certainly not consciousness of a few millielectron volts per micron perhaps.

That's all quite a tower of cards, but a lot of the ingredients
do seem to be there for something like the original "Orch OR"
model.

The basic mind-matter equations are something like:

IT FROM BIT = d(x) = (Area)Gradient of Goldstone Phase of the Local Macro-Quantum Conscious Mind Field PSI

d(x) = Frohlich electric dipole moment distribution of the 10^18 hydrophobically caged electron qubit switches (see Penrose "Shadows of the Mind" on Hameroff's picture).

BIT FROM IT = Landau-Ginzburg Equation for mental field PSI whose Mexican Hat Potential depends on d(x).


On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 09:22 PM, Victor Martinez wrote:


From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 9:15:35 PM US/Pacific
To: "Paola Harris"
Subject: Reality, Physics, UFOs


On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 02:37 PM, Robert Sheaffer who writes "Psychic Vibrations" in "Skeptical Inquirer" wrote:

"Prof. Littleton agrees that the available UFO evidence is "soft," but thinks that the intelligence agencies have squirrelled away some "hard" evidence from supposed crashes at Roswell and Kecksburg. The Roswell crash yarns have been quite effectively debunked by Pflock, Klass, and others, I have nothing to add. As for Kecksburg, is he truly unaware that this "crashing UFO " was simply a fable spun from confusion over the great fireball meteor of December 9, 1965? See my web page debunking this at
http://www.debunker.com/kecksburg.html .
Truly a house of cards. You UFO
believers are *so easily* fooled.

And on such trivia are new scientific theories to be built??????"

I replied to Sheaffer's Straw Man tactic:

You seem to continually misunderstand that my physics theories in

http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

are not motivated by the above incidents you mention. Indeed, this is the first I even heard of "Kecksburg".

Again I say for the Nth time, the motivations of my theory are:

I. In elementary particle physics

I.1 Stability of the electron (Abraham, Becker, Lorentz ~ 1900)

Electron as extended object at e^2/mc^ ~ 10^-13 cm does not explode from Coulomb self-replusion.

I.2 Universal slope of Regge trajectories of hadronic resonances as Kerr-Newmann micro-geons in strong short range gravity (my work of 1973 that caused Abdus Salam to invite me to Trieste).

1.3 Electron and quarks look more and more pointlike ~ 10^-18 cm for high-energy deep probes.

II Astrophysics - The Blackett Effect (see papers by Saul-Paul Sirag including one in NATURE)

i.e. Effective "charge" of many rotating astrophysical objects that seem to obey

Effective Electrical Circulating Charge Making Magnetic Moment = G(Newton)^1/2 (Mass of Object)

III. Hermann Bondi's "negative matter propulsion" talk at Cornell ~ 1960 when he was Chief Scientist of the British Ministry of Defense.

This timelike geodesic pre-Alcubierre "warp drive" uses both positive and negative "matter" configurations. The "negative matter" (i.e. strong negative pressure with w less than -1/3 note w = -1 for zero point fluctuations) is what Kip Thorne called "exotic matter" in his 1986 "Contact" (Sagan) traversable wormhole "Star Gate" paper with his Cal Tech students.

Made more interesting by fact that Uncle Joe Stalin's Los Alamos Physics Spy Master Y. Terletskii, Bondi's Soviet Doppelganger, worked on same problem as noted by defense physicist Robert Forward in early 1990's.

IV. The New Precision Cosmology

The new anti-gravity "dark energy" + gravitating "dark matter" form 96% of the stuff of the universe that is not in the form of real on-mass-shell particles, but is obviously an exotic "virtual" off-mass-shell macro-quantum vacuum coherence effect IMHO.

My new equations for this are:

(Exotic Vacuum Zero Point Energy Density) = (String Tension)(Effective Planck Area)^-1[1 - (Effective Planck Volume)|Vacuum Coherence Field|^2]

A positive LHS is anti-gravity "dark energy" with dominating negative pressure.

A negative LHS is gravitating "dark matter" with dominating positive pressure.

The Einstein source of gravity is ~ (G/c^2)(Energy Density + 3Pressure)

Where Energy Density = - Pressure

for zero point fluctuations from

Einstein's Equivalence Principle + Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

Vacuum Coherence Field = (Higgs Amplitude Field)e^i(Goldstone Phase Field)

from dynamical instability of globally flat spacetime vacuum of quantum electrodynamics.

Where Einstein's 1915 geometrodynamic field guv is simply Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" or Hagen Kleinert's "world crystal lattice strain tensor" that obeys the Bohm pilot wave IT FROM BIT constraint

(Geometrodynamics of smooth curved space-time) = guv = Flat Space-Time + (Effective Planck Area)(Goldstone Phase Field)(,u,v)

Where (,u,v) is the symmetrized mixed second order ordinary partial derivatives.

Torsion field = (Effective Planck Area)(Goldstone Phase Field)[,u,v)]

where [ ] is the anti-symmetrizer

The non-gravitating "classical vacuum" has

(Exotic Vacuum Zero Point Energy Density) = - (Zero Point Pressure) = 0

corresponding at large scale of the adaptive windowed "Wavelet Transform" to a

Vanishing Einstein Cosmological Constant /\ = 0 in the FRW metric post-inflationary metric where

Vacuum Coherence Field limits to Chaotic Inflation Field in sense of Max Tegmark's "Parallel Universes"

of May 2003 Scientific American.

Equilibrium Vacuum Coherence Field = (Effective Planck Volume)^-1 =

Exotic Vacuum Energy Density from a Taylor Series Expansion about

That may correspond to locally gauging the NONLINEAR "special conformal transformations" of the 15 parameter SU(2,2) conformal group for Minkowski space-time using the 10 parameter Poincare sub-group.

That is maybe the unified exotic vacuum dark energy/matter field is the compensating gauge field of these special conformal transformations that would be macro-quantum coherent squeezed states of Tony Smith's "conformal gravitons" from modulating the Higgs amplitude of the Vacuum Coherence. Einstein's "gravitons" cohere in the modulation of the Goldstone phase of the Vacuum Coherence?

On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 05:13 AM, Mitchell Porter wrote:


On this topic of gravitational instantons:

I think it's fair to say that an instanton is just quantum tunneling by
another name (i.e. as represented by an imaginary-time path integral,
see hep-ph/0009136). I don't understand the details, but I think
Jack's theory (building on Sakharov's ideas, see Visser's exposition in
gr-qc/0204062) is that the gravitational metric is a "local order parameter"
of the QED vacuum.

Thanks. My emergent "More is different" gravity + Dark energy/matter work is independent of Visser's. I need to take a look. Does Visser also get the dark energy/matter? Remember I get BOTH gravity and unified exotic vacuum w = -1 dark energy/matter fields from phase and amplitude modulation respectively of the local negentropic vacuum coherence order parameter. It's like FM and AM radio on the Cosmic Channel. :-)

I'd point out that there is a whole quantum-mind
"school" according to which memories are encoded in inequivalent
QED vacuum domains (most recent paper, q-bio.OT/0309009). Again,
I don't understand the details; when they talk about different QED
"vacua", I get the impression that they mean different "effective field
theories", corresponding to different states of a complex condensed
matter system (such as the brain).

It would be nice if they clarified what they mean.
Yes, in my theory the conscious mind field is such a macro-quantum coherent local BIT order parameter in "two-way relation" with IT electrical signals, chemical messengers etc.. The latter are like a heavy ball rolling on a rubbery landscape in a spontaneously self-organizing loop.

IT FROM BIT + BIT FROM IT = POST-QUANTUM CONSCIOUS SYSTEM with signal nonlocality (presponse_

IT FROM BIT alone is an UNCONSCIOUS quantum systems with signal locality

Nonetheless, speculating further, one can imagine that conscious
cognition consists of quantum jumps rearranging the QED domain
structure of the brain, and that these jumps admit of an ADE
classification, with different classes of instanton corresponding to
different cognitive primitives. (Here I'm thinking of AI researcher
Ben Goertzel's attempt to model thought using the octonions -
http://www.goertzel.org/dynapsyc/1996/consalg.html - and of
the "octonionic gravitational instantons" of hep-th/9810042.)
And of course, our best candidate for the precise location of
these alleged tunneling events is the cytoskeleton (see parts 5-7
of http://cogprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/archive/00003137/).

c^4/G(Newton) = 10^19 Gev per 10^-33 cm

this is much too stiff for anything in our low energy world - certainly not consciousness of a few millielectron volts per micron perhaps.

That's all quite a tower of cards, but a lot of the ingredients
do seem to be there for something like the original "Orch OR"
model.

The basic mind-matter equations are something like:

IT FROM BIT = d(x) = (Area)Gradient of Goldstone Phase of the Local Macro-Quantum Conscious Mind Field PSI

d(x) = Frohlich electric dipole moment distribution of the 10^18 hydrophobically caged electron qubit switches (see Penrose "Shadows of the Mind" on Hameroff's picture).

BIT FROM IT = Landau-Ginzburg Equation for mental field PSI whose Mexican Hat Potential depends on d(x).

On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 02:37 PM, Robert Sheaffer who writes "Psychic Vibrations" in "Skeptical Inquirer" wrote:

"Prof. Littleton agrees that the available UFO evidence is "soft," but thinks that the intelligence agencies have squirrelled away some "hard" evidence from supposed crashes at Roswell and Kecksburg. The Roswell crash yarns have been quite effectively debunked by Pflock, Klass, and others, I have nothing to add. As for Kecksburg, is he truly unaware that this "crashing UFO " was simply a fable spun from confusion over the great fireball meteor of December 9, 1965? See my web page debunking this at
http://www.debunker.com/kecksburg.html .
Truly a house of cards. You UFO
believers are *so easily* fooled.

And on such trivia are new scientific theories to be built??????"

I replied to Sheaffer's Straw Man tactic:

You seem to continually misunderstand that my physics theories in

http://qedcorp.com/APS/StarGate1.mov

are not motivated by the above incidents you mention. Indeed, this is the first I even heard of "Kecksburg".

Again I say for the Nth time, the motivations of my theory are:

I. In elementary particle physics

I.1 Stability of the electron (Abraham, Becker, Lorentz ~ 1900)

Electron as extended object at e^2/mc^ ~ 10^-13 cm does not explode from Coulomb self-replusion.

I.2 Universal slope of Regge trajectories of hadronic resonances as Kerr-Newmann micro-geons in strong short range gravity (my work of 1973 that caused Abdus Salam to invite me to Trieste).

1.3 Electron and quarks look more an more pointlike ~ 10^-18 cm for high-energy deep probes.

II Astrophysics - The Blackett Effect (see papers by Saul-Paul Sirag including one in NATURE)

i.e. Effective "charge" of many rotating astrophysical objects that seem to obey

Effective Electrical Circulating Charge Making Magnetic Moment = G(Newton)^1/2 (Mass of Object)

III. Hermann Bondi's "negative matter propulsion" talk at Cornell ~ 1960 when he was Chief Scientist of the British Ministry of Defense.

This timelike geodesic pre-Alcubierre "warp drive" uses both positive and negative "matter" configurations. The "negative matter" (i.e. strong negative pressure with w less than -1/3 note w = -1 for zero point fluctuations) is what Kip Thorne called "exotic matter" in his 1986 "Contact" (Sagan) traversable wormhole "Star Gate" paper with his Cal Tech students.

Made more interesting by fact that Uncle Joe Stalin's Los Alamos Physics Spy Master Y. Terletskii, Bondi's Soviet Doppelganger, worked on same problem as noted by defense physicist Robert Forward in early 1990's.

IV. The New Precision Cosmology

The new anti-gravity "dark energy" + gravitating "dark matter" form 96% of the stuff of the universe that is not in the form of real on-mass-shell particles, but is obviously an exotic "virtual" off-mass-shell macro-quantum vacuum coherence effect IMHO.

My new equations for this are:

(Exotic Vacuum Zero Point Energy Density) = (String Tension)(Effective Planck Area)^-1[1 - (Effective Planck Volume)|Vacuum Coherence Field|^2]

A positive LHS is anti-gravity "dark energy" with dominating negative pressure.

A negative LHS is gravitating "dark matter" with dominating positive pressure.

The Einstein source of gravity is ~ (G/c^2)(Energy Density + 3Pressure_

Where Energy Density = - Pressure

for zero point fluctuations from

Einstein's Equivalence Principle + Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

Vacuum Coherence Field = (Higgs Amplitude Field)e^i(Goldstone Phase Field)

from dynamical instability of globally flat spacetime vacuum of quantum electrodynamics.

Where Einstein's 1915 geometrodynamic field guv is simply Andrei Sakharov's "metric elasticity" or Hagen Kleinert's "world crystal lattice strain tensor" that obeys the Bohm pilot wave IT FROM BIT constraint

(Geometrodynamics of smooth curved space-time) = guv = Flat Space-Time + (Effective Planck Area)(Goldstone Phase Field)(,u,v)

Where (,u,v) is the symmetrized mixed second order ordinary partial derivatives.

Torsion field = (Effective Planck Area)(Goldstone Phase Field)[,u,v)]

where [ ] is the anti-symmetrizer

The non-gravitating "classical vacuum" has

(Exotic Vacuum Zero Point Energy Density) = - (Zero Point Pressure) = 0

corresponding at large scale of the adaptive windowed "Wavelet Transform" to a

Vanishing Einstein Cosmological Constant /\ = 0 in the FRW metric post-inflationary metric where

Vacuum Coherence Field limits to Chaotic Inflation Field in sense of Max Tegmark's "Parallel Universes"

of May 2003 Scientific American.

Equilibrium Vacuum Coherence Field = (Effective Planck Volume)^-1 =

Exotic Vacuum Energy Density from a Taylor Series Expansion about

That may correspond to locally gauging the NONLINEAR "special conformal transformations" of the 15 parameter SU(2,2) conformal group for Minkowski space-time using the 10 parameter Poincare sub-group.

That is maybe unified exotic vacuum dark energy/matter field is the compensating gauge field of these special conformal transformations what would be macro-quantum coherent squeezed states of Tony Smith's "conformal gravitons" from modulating the Higgs amplitude of the Vacuum Coherence. Einstein's "gravitons" cohere in the modulation of the Goldstone phase of the Vacuum Coherence?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Littleton"
To: "Jack Sarfatti" ; "Robert Sheaffer"

Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: ppt & UFO debunking


Hi Jack,

Let me take a moment away from the TV, where we've been watching the
progress of the horrendous local fires and hoping they don't come any closer to Pasadena, to comment on Robert Sheaffer's recent comment that "It is exceedingly unlikely that UFOs... are real entities, they are mostly due to 'random errors' occurring in the human perceptual and social-belief formation system. There is noise in every information channel, and our society has agreed to describe a certain kind of that noise as "UFOs." While we may argue about their origin and purpose, it has long since become abundantly clear that what we call "UFOs" are not simply "noise." Unless the thousands of internally consistent reports by credible witnesses, including abductees, are some form of mass hallucination, these phenomena clearly have an objective existence. Moreover, as a student of comparative mythology and folklore, I can firmly attest that the patterns reported by contemporary witnesses and "experiencers" jibe remarkably well with pre-modern accounts of "flying shields," abductions to "fairy-land" by short creatures with big eyes and pointed, "elfin" chins, missing-time episodes, and rides in "flying wheels" a la Ezekiel's famous trip.

To ignore all this evidence, "soft" though it most of it may be (although I strongly suspect that despite a half-century of stonewalling, some members of the U.S. and other intelligence communities-the CIA, MI6, the old KGB, etc.-have in their possession an abundance of "hard" evidence garnered from Roswell, Kecksburg, and other UFO crash sites), is to wallow in a state of denial so all-embracing that it beggars the imagination. Or do debunkers like Sheaffer, Oberg, Klass, and the rest have another, more devious agenda, that is, to further the Government's long-standing policy of keeping the lid
on by systematically ridiculing those of us who suspect the truth about this phenomenon, all the while being privy to above-top-secret knowledge that would prove us right? One wonders....

All best wishes &

Cheers,
Scott

C. SCOTT LITTLETON
President, Phi Beta Kappa Alumni in Southern California
Professor of Anthropology, Emeritus
Occidental College
Los Angeles, CA 90041
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